@BBfan101 Steffy is like the "Energizer Bunny", she won't stop until she gets what she wants. Well, I put my belief that it was Brooke for two reason, she has left the room to make a phone call, and she did tell Ridge that she would do anything even calling the CPS to protect Douglas, but now we have this app thing now, and they way Brooke was talking today, it makes me wonder.
BBfan I agree. Brooke did look a little suspicious with her facial expressions. I still think the writers are throwing us off making Thomas look quilty. It could be Douglas, it could be Brooke or it could be someone nobody speculated.
Thomas didn’t give him a voice recorder. Douglas had an app on his mobile phone that he showed his grandfather. He may have recorded Brooke yelling at his father and she certainly used a lot of the same phrases.
Brooke lied about making the call. It had to be her because how many people even knew about the knife, the one that Thomas was using to cut up an apple. Like what else do you or can you use to cut one up. The worst part is that Brooke lied to Ridge when he asked her if she made the call. How can he possibly ever trust her again when the out and out lied. The only problem for him is that he can't tell her how he knows that she lied. He needs to get on a plane to Aspen and propose to Taylor, once he has told Brooke that he is done with her once and for all. This is the straw that finally broke the camel's back.
@b&bfan i caught brooks facial expressions and seen. Her smirking on todays and yesterdays show smiling like the cat that caught the canary thinking she wouldnt be caught due to laws of cps not disclosing the person who called in the report.. brook either did it or she put someone up to doing it for her who gave cps brooks name
BB, In all honesty, I don’t want Taylor with Ridge.. It’s clear he wants Brooke, and he is sending mixed signals like Taylor said.. He is a dog in that regard.. And Steffy, shut up.. Can she not see her mother is hurting, she needs to support her mother and give this up.. Taylor is not a home wrecker, never has been, never will be… She is too good a woman to do what Brooke does.. I truly hope she stands her ground.. I wish they would bring a new man in for Taylor, then watch Ridge get so jealous..
D, I agree, it’s hard because they are really making both Brooke and Thomas look like the possibilities, perhaps to throw us off?? It’s just way too obvious that it’s them.. They always do this.. But I won’t be happy if it was Thomas.. He worked so hard to change, so if the writers recycle and go back down that road again..
Colly I agree. I am all for seeing people over come demons. No matter if you're Logan or Forrester and right now? I'm really hoping we will see a twist to this and then move on. It is getting repetitive.
Does anybody remember the episode that Thomas was thinking of Hope again and he caught himself and told himself "I need to stop it"...I believe he still wants Hope, he said it to Hope...I'm sure of it!
Truth, yes, but I actually think that might have been to fool everyone into thinking he is going back to his old ways, so when this all blew up, it would make people think it was him who called cps.. They have made it so hard to tell who did it.. But I personally think it was not Thomas or Brooke.. I think there is going to be a twist to who did it.. They have made it look too obvious that it was one of those two, that if it was, they could have just shown who it was doing it..
D, I agree, I too am all for people changing and bettering themselves, even Logan’s.. But Brooks and Liam have only had issues with Thomas since he wanted step up for his son.. I have liked Hope lately, she is maturing, and her mother could take a page from her book!!..
What a great great day for the Forrester family to get rid if queen Brooke. I want to see how Hope defends mommy. The Logan'S need to get out if the Forrester's lives and Ridge needs to buckle up and kich Brooke out!!
Tina, Hope doesn’t even know it was a pocket knife that fits in your pocket, or that he was cutting an apple yet.. can’t wait till she finds those things out.. Brook is going to look like such a fool, and even if Brooke didn’t do, everyone is going to believe she did, including Hope..
I don't believe that Brooke did it. She wouldn't leave her name. Somebody used one of those machines that changes your voice. Beyond sick of Steffy and Thomas. Writers puhleeeezzzze write! Don't just rearrange the same lines every day, regurgitating the same thing day in and day out! You guys get on one particular storyline, and then just pound it to death! Why can't the writers on this show write like they do on the other two soaps that I watch where they have multiple storylines going on. This crap gets so boring and annoying! I want to see what's going on with Quinn and Carter, Donna and Eric, Paris and Zende, etc. And get a new woman for Thomas and a man for Taylor! For God's sake move on and mix it up!
@Kidd, the writers have become extremely lazy.. I can’t believe nine writers can’t do more than copy and paste, then switch it around a bit.. The actors, especially Steffy and Brooks, must be so fed up, when they get their scripts and it’s identical e to their last one, day after day.. What a waste of good talent..
Yes Kidd, we've been seeing this same crap for weeks, no months! I bitch about this every day. These writers suck. I could write this show better than they do
There's a reason Thomas kept saying "she even said her name" multiple times! And Brooke would never have said "Brooke Logan" instead of Brooke Forrester or Logan Forrester. That voice recording sounded robotic and nothing like Brooke.
My thoughts exactly about the name. My money is still on that weirdo Charlie. He's so weird and subservient to Steffy it was unsettling... plus popped up right around when the CPS topic was discussed.
Only Ridge calls Brooke Logan ,Brooke mainly Forrester! Plus Thomas keep pushing and Ridge pick up on it pay attention to how he keep looking at Thomas. Also you guys seem to forget Taylor Ridge and Steffy kept it a secret that Thomas knew what Shiela did to Brooke drink and was technically working with Shiela so his mom get with his dad. Today convince me it's Thomas!
@Dezzi that's a great point. I did forget they never mentioned it... Especially Ridge, the others owe Brooke no allegiance (even though if we have to be 100% fair Steffy also didn't receive credit for confronting Sheila on behalf of Brooke which led to her being shot; she could have let it go and reaped the "fruit" of the Deacon thing)
Correct M, Steffy did stand up for Brooke and was shot as a result.. But typical Brooke, didn’t even thank her for defending, then spent the whole time in the hospital causing trouble while Steffy tried to recover!!
@Colly but did Brooke ever find out Steffy was there on her behalf? Because that would require her to be told that Steffy knew via Thomas and his involvement.
M, I am pretty sure, because when Steffy got her memory back, and told Ridge it was Sheila and that she confronted her because of what she did to Brooke, she and Taylor told Ridge to go and tell Brooke.. I can’t remember exactly what was said, but he told Brooke Steffy got her memory back, and so on.. So she would know that Steffy confronted Sheila defending her..
Colly Brooke never knew that Thomas new about what Sheila , Brooke never questioned how Steffy found out she just was shock and kept it moving . All this is still a big secret of Thomas knowing
Thomas called CPS on he's son and framing Brook for it not to mentioned he's dad did say brook said she would call CPS he's stirring up trouble for them
Or worse... still the mattress that is Taylor or Steffy! Steffy has been through the entire Spencer family (watch out for the one that is at boarding school too, he will be her next target). As for Taylor she has a tardy history with sleeping around, funniest one there is when her children were Erics grandchildren/stepchildren😂 😂
@Maur and let's not forget Rick...🙈 both Taylor and Steffy bagged him, even both engaged him 😅 then Steffy was all "I'm a Marone, nothing weird here"...
The difference is Maur, that Brooks ALWAYS targeted married men of men in committed relationships, Taylor did not.. That’s ALWAYS and will always be Brookes MO.. She didn’t get that title for no reason.. And yes, Taylor’s slept with many men, but Brooks still holds the title for the most, and she has broken up more marriages and destroyed families, including Taylor’s, not one but several times.. So 🧐🧐🧐 not sure what your really trying to get at..
Steffy 😂😂 I'd take your more seriously if it weren't for that clown costume. Who is dressing her?! Thomas if it really isn't you, you should stop acting so creepily. It looks all kinds of set up by him. At this point it looks to me like he really hired those guys to pose as CPS. And the fishy guy with the recording. And for crying out loud, check your history before talking out of your ass. Brooke didn't betray Ridge with Thorne or with Eric. If anything, she dumped them FOR him 🤣 Seriously why would Brooke leave her name and then deny it. Whoever's behind this isn't the sharpest tool in the box.
M, I agree with you, especially about that bunch of shiny rags steffy is wearing 😂 Who wears a damn trench coat sitting around the house and the office. Take your damn jacket off. And that skirt was a hot mess. For fashion designers, they sure wear some ugly shite
The look on Brooke's face while talking to Liam and the things she said made her look very guilty. They are making it too obvious that it's either Brooke or Thomas. That's why I don't think it's either of them.
Elle yes Brooke was also borderline creepy with the little dry smile 😅 and the "it must be someone who loves Douglas very much" line... it also annoyed me how both of them with Liam are not more concerned - someone reported Thomas about a knife situation that only she witnessed. It wasn't some stranger on the street!
@Colly: to me Charlie is involved for sure. Unless he's also a red herring but then they are too many 😅 I was thinking also Steffy - she was way too agitated when Finn came over and kept ranting Brooke will be stopped... which was around the time CPS were there... and the spoiler I read says "Will Taylor forgive Steffys most recent machition?" For all my despise of her, I don't think she'd be that cruel but who knows what she and Thomas may have orchestrated without us knowing... and it would be more inventive than his "I slept with Brooke on an island" lie that last led Taylor and Ridge to the altar or the texting from Ridge's phone the time before. Ah I just want to know 😁😁
@Colly I don't think she only knows or does what we see she knows or does. I think her and Thomas (with Douglas) talk more often. And for a mystery I think there should be behind the scenes play 😀 her character is generally not like that, I think, so not at all pointing the finger for sure at her. But it could be an interesting story!
Brook smiling like the cat that ate the canar over the call and liam both brook and liam seem guilty of making the call to cps or they put someone up to it..brook isnt worried about douglas shes trying to start and win a war against taylor thom and stephy and liam doesnt care about douglas either hes just jealous of hope being anywhere near thomas
Yes, Pammy, she keeps going back to her conspiracy theory , that it’s ALL Taylor, and she is responsible for EVERYTHING, because she is trying to get Ridge back.. It couldn’t possibly be because Douglas asked Thomas if he thinks of him and misses him when they are not together?? It couldn’t possibly be anything except Taylor trying to break up her marriage.. How insecure can she be.. And Taylor was responsible for her destroying her own marriage, it was Taylor’s fault she egged deacon to stay and drink with her, and it was Taylor’s fault she kissed Deacon and he stayed the night.. Everything is all because of Taylor!!
Colly, Taylor has admitted that she is deliberately coming after Brookes marriage! All the time acting like some half witted school girl, because she either is a half wit or thinks shes being cute...either way it`s trashy and stupid. She is openly playing the part of homewrecker and yet wants us to believe her bs about her having integrity, I have yet to see said integrity in any shape or form!! She too has worked her way through the Forrester men, so where is this integrity she says she has?! At least Brooke doesn`t deny or try to hide her indiscretions, she owns them, while saint Taylor is full of herself and bs. What part of Australia are you from Colly?
Maur, Taylor did nothing to come between Ridge and Brooke, except the kiss in monico which was initiated by Ridge, and she apologised to Brooke for it.. She has not tried to come between them.. Ridge tried to get her sleep with him after he took his wedding ring off and she said no, it’s not gonna happen… So, what exactly has she done to try and come between them exactly?? Did she sleep with or even try to get him into bed?? No, she wouldn’t even accept a ride home from the family dinner that Ridge offered her, even though he knew she came with Steffy.. She has not done a thing..?? And she did not admit she was trying to come between him and Brooke?? She just said in this episode she is not a home wrecker , which she has never gone after a married in the past or now.. Ridge is giving her major mixed signals.. So Iu sure where you are coming from??
Brook looking like she knows exactly who called cps..maybe she put the familys babysitter up to calling it in ot brook herself called it in because she never thought ridge or thom would find out due to privacy rules cps has seriously liam? How would you fell if someone called cps on yawl saying that your home is unsafe enviroment for children? And accuse you of being unstable?
It could be Thomas who made the call before he came home knowing that it will destroy his dads marriage....but I am hoping it's not home...he has worked so hard on himself....I hope the writers do pin this on Thomas
What I see happening of late , is the writers are bringing back old characters and story lines that were popular in the past, when ratings were highest in the past, in an attempt to boost ratings.. So they could very well be revisiting Thomas’s dark side, because everyone loved that time period.. There’s a lot of dialogue lately that is revisiting the past to try to remind viewers of the past history, like what ridge was saying last Friday and Taylor talking about when Ridge proposed to her yesterday, obviously they can’t show flashbacks because it’s two different actors, but there is a lot of past history being brought up of recent.. CBS only renewed the show for one year, and I think writers are worried they will get cancelled, but ironically, they seem to think it for other reasons, not because the dialogue is pretty much the same everyday.. The writers need to watch the show back for a couple of weeks , so they can see what we see, and where all their “hard work” is leading the show to!!
Thomas did not do anything. I know who made the call and will be so happy when the truth comes out so the Logan "lovers" can shut up geez!!!!!! Sick of Brooke and her "mini-me" always winning. Taylor, let Ridge have that headache. There is a man out there who will only love you!!!! He deserves thirty more years of pain inflicted by his "Logan!'
Valinda, that`s just because they are better people than the Maroneys. Good people usually win, hence Brooke and Hope treat each other with respect. Which is a damn side more than Steffy or Thomas do for their parents.
Brooke does not treat Hope with respect, she treats her like a child. Any normal mother would respect the decisions their kid makes when it comes to their own lives. Even if they think they're wrong, the parent would advise and guide. But Brooke goes behind Hope's back and does what she thinks is right without any regard for how Hope might feel about it. She does it time and time again.
Also, good people don't always win. It's the ones that trick and deceive and trample over others who always get to the top. Matter of fact, there's a saying "good people always come last." Not the exact saying but it is slipping my old brain right now. 😂
🤣🤣🤣 correct Elle, because good people don’t do what you just said.. And the funniest thing, is that despite all Brookes manipulations etc to snag Ridge, he CHOSE Taylor initially.. He married her first, despite Brookes best efforts to break them apart, and Brooks only “Won”, because she got him by default, when Taylor died.. Then, when William Bell died, in 2005, his idiot son took over and rewrote history!!
@Elle I have heard that saying from my grandmother. Now I have to look that up. She always used to tell me too. 'Surroud only good people in your life and there will always be love and happiness. Something like that. My old brain is forgetting the old saying too. 😔
Yes, that’s a really good one.. I don’t think Caroline ever liked Brooks, and maybe she found out Hope has adopted Douglas, and is trying to get the Logan’s out of the way, for when she returns?? I wonder what would happen with hope adopting Douglas, if she came back? From a legal stance?
I would expect that her rights as biological mom would supersede Hope's. Ah btw this Ridge and Caroline, despite the terrifying age difference, had some good moments together. If she came back maybe they can get back together. Not that Ridge needs to pull another woman in his web of crazy. But I like the idea of her returning.
I did too, I thought they had mad chemistry.. I liked them together.. I hope she comes back!! That would really stir things up 🤣🤣 especially if it was her who called cps!!
Brooke looked very suspicious today. This is getting very confusing now. I have initially thought it could be Charlie but Brooks' s behavior was very strange today.
Soh, I think that’s what the writers are intentionally trying to do.. I think they are trying to make it a true “who done it mystery” 🤣🤣🤣 and it will probably turn out to be some one totally unexpected, like Charlie or Pam or even paris 🤣🤣🤣
Everyone seem to forget how much of a physcho Thomas Is Emma death is still hidden till this day , Steffy is just a Sl*t from the Valley as Brooke , Taylor deserve a better man that Ridge and Better kids too because none of her kids seems to care she is hurting!
So hmm... Brooke and Liam acknowledged today that Douglas is not in any danger based on the CPS investigation. Now that they don't have that as an excuse anymore, they're back to "Douglas should be home because he needs a routine." But even that didn't sound right so Brooke decided to blame Taylor. Thomas wanting the opportunity to raise his son is all because Taylor wants to come between her and Ridge.
🤣🤣🤣 yes, typical!! She went after Thomas because of that in the first place Elle.. it has NEVER been about Douglas’s well being.. She just can’t use that excuse anymore, now that cps has determined Douglas is safe.. So it’s back to the drawing board, and original conspiracy theory.. So what is she going to use to argue with Ridge about now?? Is she going to say it out right to him? Oh wait, she already did that..
If the spoilers are right and Brooke finds out who called them, I am curious to know how she is going to be able to do that? Even if she goes to that same man that Ridge went to, there’s still no way to prove she didn’t do it because, it’s her voice on the recording.. I think she will see or hear Douglas using that app and think she is putting 2 and 2 together that she thinks Thomas did it?? The only other ones I can think of , is Douglas or Pammy, cause we all know Pammy has screws loose and is on meds for it, maybe to try to get rid of Brooke so Ridge will go back to Taylor, because she could have overheard Ridge telling Thomas about Brooke and cps, because Pammy loves Taylor, or Charlie overheard and did it, or he told Pammy about what he overheard and she did it?? It wouldn’t be hard for Pammy to get Brookes voice on that app?? But all I know, is either the writers do really think us fans are stupid because it’s too obvious it’s Thomas or Brooke, or there is a big twist?? I am leaning towards the latter, because they didn’t show it on screen.. or it could be it is actually one of them, but it’s the, who done it, because they both look suspicious.. The way they are both acting, it’s neck and neck??
Pammy alone maybe not because we haven't seen her in months but Charlie plus Pammy could be. Or Charlie for Pammy. Maybe Charlie was the one who showed the app to Douglas in the first place. He could be tech savvy as a security guard even though he otherwise looks incompetent 🙈
Yes, plus he is a big kid in an adult body.. remember those theme nights where they dressed up as knights in armour and women as wenches, Ally went to a few nights with them.. so it could be a possibility and Elle actually questioned how weird he was acting.. or they could have found out from nosey Paris who has been asking a lot of questions and wants to know everything going on.. here’s a thought, maybe Zende and Paris, Zende did say he would be on board, when he was at steffy’s when Taylor said are Steffy and Thomas trying to recruit you in this, he responded he would?? Maybe he overheard, because he and Paris have been in the office a lot.. remember when they were talking and Thomas said he has to step up his game and Ridge said it’s him who needs to? Zende knows everything that’s going on??
And with Ridge asking Charlie to keep an eye on where Brooke is in the office, he could have listened in on Brooke talking to Hope and Liam, he can be sneaky like that.. and that gesture he did, the “I look out for you boss”.. And Ridge had to ask him to close the door behind him, when he came in to tell Ridge where Brook was, I am sure he is being nosey.. and that was just after Ridge told him about Brooke threatening to call protective services..
But isn't Pam pro-Logan now? She and Donna are besties and she accepted Brooke a long time ago after Brooke and Stephanie became friends. I don't think she would turn on her in this instance. But then again, with this show, who knows?
I'm not convinced about Charlie. He's way too much of a klutz and has nothing to gain (and everything to lose) by doing something like this. Like M said previously, I think he might just be a red herring. Although I could be hella wrong! 😂🤣
Elle that's true too. I also don't know if Pam is even around anymore (the actress still in the show). But Charlie looked so weirdly invested in the Forresters that maybe he was at least part of it, not the mastermind.
They make out like her and Donna are always at the reception desk but you never see them unless they need them for something.. and Pam is always listening in..
Elle, Pam and Donna get along ok now, but I think if it came down to her having to choose between Logan’s and Forresters, then she would jump on the Forrester band wagon??
$$$-Bill is supposed to figure it out somehow and he offers to fly Brooke to Aspen so she can tell Ridge what she learned. But then I think Brooke decides to take the Forrester jet and go alone. So if Brooke is there to let Ridge know what really happened, it can’t be Brooke. It’s Thomas or Steffy (or both). It’s def not Brooke. I initially thought it was Liam until they came up with the voice recording. Then Liam was no longer a suspect. Douglas has zero reason to do something like that. Douglas loves Grandma Brooke. It’s def Thomas…or possibly Thomas & Steffy planned this whole ruse to frame Brooke. This is gonna drive Ridge right back to Brooke. Then I hope she dumps him!!!
Me too 😀😀 for Bill please 🥰!! I somehow find Steffy still suspicious even though previously she has shown different behavior like when she confronted Sheila for what she did to Brooke with the champagne. But the determination with which she speaks recently that Brooke's days are counted, she promises they are... It's not impossible that she and Thomas cooked up something.
Where Douglas is concerned, it's not so much about not loving grandma, it's about loving and wanting to be with his dad more than anything else. He has already shown preference for wanting to stay at the Forrester mansion over returning to the cabin.
I get the impression that Douglas loves ALL of his family very much. He is around 8 - 10 years old I’m guessing and I think it’s normal for boys his age to want to be around their fathers, especially since living with Thomas is a novelty right now. However, saying that Douglas has the foresight to think that all the way through (setting up Brooke) just makes no sense. I don’t think Douglas was around when Ridge told Thomas about Brooke’s threat. And even if Douglas somehow got wind of it, he wouldn’t set his dad up to get visited by CPS in an effort to somehow get Brooke in trouble. I just can’t imagine that’s the case. This deception was very likely planned by a scheming adult who thought it all the way through. That’s why my money is on Thomas or Thomas / Steffy combo. Hopefully we find out next week. If this drags on and on like the Sheila thing, it’s going to be very disappointing!
I also can't imagine Douglas planning the thing, like thinking the thoughts required to set up grandma to report dad to CPS. It's not something a child would come up with, esp a healthy one. And that's even before getting to the execution.
It may turn out that his intention was not even about Brooke. He may have just wanted to call CPS so that when they came, he would be able to tell them himself how happy he is living with his dad. Brooke's voice was used because she was the one berating Thomas about the knife. If Douglas was close by listening in, he had ample opportunity to record Brooke's voice, and not necessarily to set her up or get her in trouble.
If Douglas was listening in then could have also potentially seen his dad holding a knife in a threatening manner toward Grandma and telling grandma that she will NOT interfere in his grandpa’s life again (very angrily). Those are the things that would make kids have nightmares, not prompt them to call CPS to have them come out and see that everything was “fine”. A kid that age wouldn’t know the range of questioning that kind of agency engages in. For all Douglas knew, his dad could have gotten in trouble. If I’m wrong and it turns out to be Douglas, I will admit I was wrong and I will say a nice thing about Taylor every day for a week. Lol 😂😂. That’s how sure I am that it is NOT Douglas who sabotaged Brooke.
Also, he might have picked up the tension when Brooke first came in and had that look on her face, and he was there when she told Thomas to use something safer, and when Thomas said he’s been cutting apples like that his whole life, and when Thomas said it’s no big deal.. He is a smart intuitive kid.. And the way he handled the cps officers, especially when they asked him if he felt safe.. That whole interaction of him speaking to cps, was above average, to speak the way he did.. And if he did do it, he probably wasn’t expecting them to find out about the recording.. So it’s not implausible.. He has probably overheard a lot of things, by many different conversations.. He has been shown to be listening in, in the past.. If he was listening in on the conversation, that would have been the perfect opportunity to record her voice? And I don’t think Thomas has been around Brooke for a long while, and his phone was nowhere in sight while they were talking, so when would he have the opportunity to record her voice?
Well I think Thomas could have recorded her voice by way of a voicemail she left for Ridge. Or interaction Brooke has had with Steffy, if Steffy is involved in it. It just doesn’t make sense to me that he would try to get Brooke in trouble. He loves his grandma. And as I already said, he had no idea how CPS was gonna respond to Thomas when they talked. Even as an adult it just seems to be inviting trouble. Not to mention the person who left the message said Brooke’s full name. So Douglas would have known full well this could easily be traced back to grandma. If Douglas truly wanted CPS to come out and bless the Forrester home and leave grandma out of it, he would not have had to say Brooke’s name at all on the recording. He could have used anyone’s voice and made the call anonymous. The person who did this clearly wanted it to be known that Brooke was behind the reporting. So I still say no way it’s Douglas. But hopefully we don’t have to wait weeks and weeks to find out. And I would say just as strongly that Brooke definitely do it. She would own it if Ridge asked her directly.
Brooke has always hated Thomas and has said nasty things about him in front of son in the past. Douglas is a clever lad and knows Brooke hates his da. He knows she wants him to go back to Hope’s dark, dank, dingy cabin. What bairn wouldn’t rather be somewhere bright, sunny, FUN and with his father?? His dad helps do his homework his Granda and GreatGranda spend time and teach him things. He’s being allowed to be a child for a change instead of the free babysitter for his baby sister who apparently hasn’t aged at the same rate as her sister Kelly or Douglas lol.
Douglas normally spends ALL his time with a sitter or being the sitter so it’s good for him to just be a wee fella and get to know his family.
The truth is Hope has monopolised his time for years. She takes him ALL holidays etc. His own family have been stuck and not only that had to listen to Brooke blather on about terrible his father is and try to replace him with Liam. Brooke wanted Thomas completely removed from Thomas’s life and still does.
@BBfan You're so right. Kids pick up a lot of things. When we think they're not looking or listening, they are. And you never know what it might lead them to do.
If it turns out to be Douglas, I am sure his aim was not to set up his grandma but to just really have the opportunity to let CPS know how he feels and what he wants. Brooke is just collateral damage since she was the one that was shouting at Thomas and therefore, Douglas was able to record her voice.
So true Bbfan and Elle!! If it was Douglas, I think he would have thought no one would find out who it was anyway, but had to pretend to be an adult, because he can’t exactly report his father himself, using his voice and name, they would have just took him away.. so that’s why he would have used Brooke , and it would be more believable that it’s her because would have picked up the tension between them also..
Also lynn, I hope our discussion can extend beyond us and to everyone on the blog.. it would be great if everyone could get along no matter who their faves are or what their opinions.. as we discussed on Wednesday, it’s fictional show and characters, but we can all be pleasant to each other, respect each other because it’s not good to stress over silly things..
Why does it even have to come to that? Hope and Thomas are working things out just fine on their own. It's Brooke and Liam who are making an issue and seeing threats where there are none.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Thomas and Hope are Douglas' parents. Everyone else needs to butt out!
Well if it turns out that Thomas did in fact frame Brooke, then yeah, it shouldn’t come to that (joint custody.) Primary physical custody should definitely go back to Hope. It will prove that Thomas is still very unhinged.
I agree with Elle, if it were me personally, and others were doing what Brooks and Liam are doing, I would be Livid.. In all honesty, I don’t blame Thomas for lashing out the way he did.. She went there, to confront him, make demands, telling him to butt out of her business, then went on to stick her nose where it doesn’t belong.. So, sorry, I don’t blame him for losing it at her.. Who does she think she is, to walk in and start at him like that.. I personally would have been furious and lashed out just as much!! Then, she went on a rampage, threatening to call cps, and making everyone believe he was playing with a samurai sword 🗡 with Douglas, conveniently leaving out it was a bloody pocket knife that fits in your pocket, and that he was using it to cut up a bloody apple.. I hope it wasn’t Thomas, and I don’t think it was, but who could blame him.. Everyone knows that Brooke will stop at nothing, when she wants something or thinks she is right about something.. She went behind Hopes back, to demand Douglas go back to Hope, then freaked Hope out, as she always does.. How is Hope going to look when she goes to Thomas and confronts him about the knife, and finds out it wasn’t a massive knife and he was cutting an apple.. I am so over her lies and manipulations, sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong, undermining Hope all the time.. And, when cps deemed the all clear, she as much as admitted that it’s not about Douglas, it’s all about Taylor trying to take Ridge from her!!
Well of course I see it very differently. I see it as Thomas and Steffy butting into Brooke’s marriage to Ridge and trying to destroy it with everything they have. So I don’t think Thomas is justified at all. Whomever did this is very underhanded and sneaky. Brooke telling Thomas she wants Douglas back in the cabin with Hope isn’t underhanded or sneaky. She’s simply telling Thomas directly what she sees as being the best living situation for Douglas. She is grandma after all and does have a right to her opinion. At this point she has not done anything underhanded to try to get Douglas back. I think setting Brooke up like this definitely crosses a line. And while I agree that she sees Taylor, Thomas and Steffy as coming after her marriage, I think Brooke genuinely loves Douglas. And I believe she wants Douglas back for that reason as well.
Lynn, I agree with you, where Steffy and Thomas are concerned, they are going way too far.. But, having said that, Brooke did break up their family more than once in the past, using underhanded tactics, and she has always treated Ridges kids with Taylor, with disdain.. I am not having a dig at you about not watching the show back then, I am merely saying that, although they are taking it too far, they have a lot of resentment from past history, and they just want to see their parents happy, and Brookes most recent oopsie, was not the first, and wont be the last.. They see how happy he is with their mother, and he has admitted outright, he loves both Brooke and Taylor.. The conversation from the last Friday , when I was away, said it all..
And to say Brooke has not done anything underhanded to get Douglas back, to start with, she is undermining Hope at every turn, nagging her constantly, is now manipulating with the knife thing, saying it was a big knife and leaving out the cutting an apple, making threats to call cps, accusing Taylor and Thomas and Steffy of talking Thomas into taking Douglas so it would cause a rift with her and Ridge, putting pressure on Liam to get on Hopes back..
She said it herself Lynn, when Hope went to the family dinner, she told Liam, now that they have Douglas over there, they are using it as a “lure” to get Ridge over there.. Thomas was concerned that Douglas asked him if he misses him when they are not together.. This is why Thomas wants custody of HIS son.. He has shown great respect to Hope for her role in Douglas’s life.. And Brooke has been on EVERYONE’s back since Douglas went to Thomas..
It’s NOT her place or decision.. It’s been years in soap land since Thomas’s brain surgery.. He has not done anything to Hope since.. He could have had his chance with Hope, with Liam’s blessing mind you, and could have left Liam to rot in prison, while he took Hope, but no, he got Liam out of prison, back to Hope and his family.. And what does Liam do in return, accuses him of being unchanged, because Thomas wants to step up and be a good father and presence in HIS sons life?? Come on Lynn.. Even Hope was not impressed Brooke went there behind her back to get Douglas.. Brooks told and expects Thomas to stay out of her marriage, then went on and on about what Thomas had to do.. And when cps deemed there was NO danger whatsoever, even when Thomas showed them the knife, now she is back to saying, it all Taylor “plan” to comd between her and Ridge..
Yes, I believe Brooks loves Douglas, but not enough to do what’s best for him.. Thomas has done nothing to give cause he has not changed, and it’s only because he wants his son, now all of a sudden, she she has issues?? And she has been at it way before the knife.. She is stirring major trouble.. She should take her own advice, and keep out of other peoples business!!
I honestly never once heard Brooke refer to it as a “Big knife”. Just heard her say Thomas had a knife. It was a good sized pocket knife, however. Her reaction when she walked in the door and saw Thomas cutting an apple and getting upset by that was stupid. But Thomas holding it pointed toward her and threatening her was very bad on Thomas’s part. I don’t think she should have gone over there alone. But I do think she had a right to be there. She should have gone with Hope.
And clearly nobody on the show minds their own business. When Thomas gets busted for framing a Brooke, I think there’s gonna be hell to pay. Thomas has been playing the sabotage Brooke’s marriage to Ridge game since well before this whole Douglas battle started.
She said it wasn’t just a knife, it was a good sized knife with her gestures and tone of voice exaggerating it to be a lot bigger, and she didn’t say pocket knife, she left that part out, because pocket knives fit in pockets
Brooke was being misleading though about the knife. She went on and on about Thomas was standing there with a knife next to Douglas. Not once does she mention the apple that was also in his hand and that was being sliced at that time. She’s going out of her way to create panic in Hope and Liam so Hope will have to run over and grab Douglas.
@Colly only reg the part of Brooke breaking up their family more than once - that never happened once. It was Ridge who broke up the family. Brooke didn't even want him the time he left Taylor (because of the James secret), she wanted Nick. At the time it was all between Ridge and Taylor. And all the next times he returned to Taylor it was because of the kids machinations and lies to break THEM up. I have watched during that times :)
@Elle Exactly! Everyone else should just butt out. Especially Luam who ran over Vinnie and lied about it, and Brooke who manipulated Douglas into lying for her.
BBfan101 of course cutting an apple isn t a threat....I said what Brooke might think...if she did it.Anyway ii is to eazy to be Brooke maybe its Tomas or Sheila or someone that we can not imagine..lets see
I still say Brooke would not have given her name. And I think she would have told Liam, since they're so chummy lately. I think it was Thomas. He's going so hard core negative about Brooke to Ridge. If it does come out that it was Thomas, it will be after Ridge has reunited with Taylor. Then what will Ridge do?
It may still be Brooke who rang in. Her facial expressions, attitude etc show her justifying it and she is actually smirking.
ReplyDeleteGood on Taylor and Thomas speaking out today. Steffy seriously needs to stop pushing her mum. She’s hurting her and Ridge is so not worth it.
Liam is sounding more and more insecure in his marriage. He and Brooke are so nasty about Hope, they have NO faith in her at all.
I’ll be curious to see who actually made that phone call.
I hope they don’t drag this out. Obviously Steffy and Taylor still don’t know about it or it definitely would have come up in conversation.
Agree, could very well be Brooke, Thomas did raise some valid points about her... She lies, lies, lies every opportunity she gets.
Delete@BBfan101 Steffy is like the "Energizer Bunny", she won't stop until she gets what she wants. Well, I put my belief that it was Brooke for two reason, she has left the room to make a phone call, and she did tell Ridge that she would do anything even calling the CPS to protect Douglas, but now we have this app thing now, and they way Brooke was talking today, it makes me wonder.
DeleteBBfan I agree. Brooke did look a little suspicious with her facial expressions. I still think the writers are throwing us off making Thomas look quilty. It could be Douglas, it could be Brooke or it could be someone nobody speculated.
Deletenope remember the voice recorder Thomas gave to Douglas??? Hello Thomas made that phone call.
DeleteO yea he did it
DeleteThomas didn’t give him a voice recorder. Douglas had an app on his mobile phone that he showed his grandfather. He may have recorded Brooke yelling at his father and she certainly used a lot of the same phrases.
DeleteThomas is behind that call IMO!
DeleteBrooke lied about making the call. It had to be her because how many people even knew about the knife, the one that Thomas was using to cut up an apple. Like what else do you or can you use to cut one up. The worst part is that Brooke lied to Ridge when he asked her if she made the call. How can he possibly ever trust her again when the out and out lied. The only problem for him is that he can't tell her how he knows that she lied. He needs to get on a plane to Aspen and propose to Taylor, once he has told Brooke that he is done with her once and for all. This is the straw that finally broke the camel's back.
Delete@b&bfan i caught brooks facial expressions and seen. Her smirking on todays and yesterdays show smiling like the cat that caught the canary thinking she wouldnt be caught due to laws of cps not disclosing the person who called in the report.. brook either did it or she put someone up to doing it for her who gave cps brooks name
DeleteBB, In all honesty, I don’t want Taylor with Ridge.. It’s clear he wants Brooke, and he is sending mixed signals like Taylor said.. He is a dog in that regard.. And Steffy, shut up.. Can she not see her mother is hurting, she needs to support her mother and give this up.. Taylor is not a home wrecker, never has been, never will be… She is too good a woman to do what Brooke does.. I truly hope she stands her ground.. I wish they would bring a new man in for Taylor, then watch Ridge get so jealous..
DeleteD, I agree, it’s hard because they are really making both Brooke and Thomas look like the possibilities, perhaps to throw us off?? It’s just way too obvious that it’s them.. They always do this.. But I won’t be happy if it was Thomas.. He worked so hard to change, so if the writers recycle and go back down that road again..
Colly I agree. I am all for seeing people over come demons. No matter if you're Logan or Forrester and right now? I'm really hoping we will see a twist to this and then move on. It is getting repetitive.
DeleteHey love, check your emails ❤️❤️
DeleteDah? Thomas knew about the knife he was there...I still say it was Thomas...at the rate the writers are going...we may find out in two weeks...LOL
DeleteDoes anybody remember the episode that Thomas was thinking of Hope again and he caught himself and told himself "I need to stop it"...I believe he still wants Hope, he said it to Hope...I'm sure of it!
DeleteTruth, yes, but I actually think that might have been to fool everyone into thinking he is going back to his old ways, so when this all blew up, it would make people think it was him who called cps.. They have made it so hard to tell who did it.. But I personally think it was not Thomas or Brooke.. I think there is going to be a twist to who did it.. They have made it look too obvious that it was one of those two, that if it was, they could have just shown who it was doing it..
DeleteD, I agree, I too am all for people changing and bettering themselves, even Logan’s.. But Brooks and Liam have only had issues with Thomas since he wanted step up for his son.. I have liked Hope lately, she is maturing, and her mother could take a page from her book!!..
DeleteSo I guess Thomas is at it again. Oh dear Brooke is always at the receiving end.
ReplyDeleteWhat a great great day for the Forrester family to get rid if queen Brooke. I want to see how Hope defends mommy. The Logan'S need to get out if the Forrester's lives and Ridge needs to buckle up and kich Brooke out!!
ReplyDeleteTina, Hope doesn’t even know it was a pocket knife that fits in your pocket, or that he was cutting an apple yet.. can’t wait till she finds those things out.. Brook is going to look like such a fool, and even if Brooke didn’t do, everyone is going to believe she did, including Hope..
DeleteI don't believe that Brooke did it. She wouldn't leave her name. Somebody used one of those machines that changes your voice. Beyond sick of Steffy and Thomas. Writers puhleeeezzzze write! Don't just rearrange the same lines every day, regurgitating the same thing day in and day out! You guys get on one particular storyline, and then just pound it to death! Why can't the writers on this show write like they do on the other two soaps that I watch where they have multiple storylines going on. This crap gets so boring and annoying! I want to see what's going on with Quinn and Carter, Donna and Eric, Paris and Zende, etc. And get a new woman for Thomas and a man for Taylor! For God's sake move on and mix it up!
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DeleteQuinn has left the show she’s not coming bk
Delete@Kidd, the writers have become extremely lazy.. I can’t believe nine writers can’t do more than copy and paste, then switch it around a bit.. The actors, especially Steffy and Brooks, must be so fed up, when they get their scripts and it’s identical e to their last one, day after day.. What a waste of good talent..
DeleteYes Kidd, we've been seeing this same crap for weeks, no months! I bitch about this every day. These writers suck. I could write this show better than they do
Delete@Hilary we as a team could! The writers don't even know the show history as well as many people here. That could make for good writing ❤️
DeleteBrava 👏👏👏👏
DeleteYES 👍 We could
DeleteCant bring Brooke n liam night unless Ridge leaves Brooke and Hope kicks out Liam
ReplyDeleteThat wouldn’t stop Brooks Mandy!! 🤣🤣🤣 He only needs to pay her ego a little and give her the look, and boom!!🤣🤣
DeleteOopsie I, meant pat her ego
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ReplyDeleteIt was obviously Thomas using that voice faking app. No doubt whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteThomas has not done anything. You all blame everything on him and it is pitiful and sad...
DeleteThere's a reason Thomas kept saying "she even said her name" multiple times! And Brooke would never have said "Brooke Logan" instead of Brooke Forrester or Logan Forrester. That voice recording sounded robotic and nothing like Brooke.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly about the name. My money is still on that weirdo Charlie. He's so weird and subservient to Steffy it was unsettling... plus popped up right around when the CPS topic was discussed.
Delete@saywhat, I think Brooke does go by Logan?? Not 💯 sure but I think she does go by Logan??
DeleteOnly Ridge calls Brooke Logan ,Brooke mainly Forrester! Plus Thomas keep pushing and Ridge pick up on it pay attention to how he keep looking at Thomas. Also you guys seem to forget Taylor Ridge and Steffy kept it a secret that Thomas knew what Shiela did to Brooke drink and was technically working with Shiela so his mom get with his dad. Today convince me it's Thomas!
Delete@Dezzi that's a great point. I did forget they never mentioned it... Especially Ridge, the others owe Brooke no allegiance (even though if we have to be 100% fair Steffy also didn't receive credit for confronting Sheila on behalf of Brooke which led to her being shot; she could have let it go and reaped the "fruit" of the Deacon thing)
DeleteCorrect M, Steffy did stand up for Brooke and was shot as a result.. But typical Brooke, didn’t even thank her for defending, then spent the whole time in the hospital causing trouble while Steffy tried to recover!!
Delete@Colly but did Brooke ever find out Steffy was there on her behalf? Because that would require her to be told that Steffy knew via Thomas and his involvement.
DeleteM, I am pretty sure, because when Steffy got her memory back, and told Ridge it was Sheila and that she confronted her because of what she did to Brooke, she and Taylor told Ridge to go and tell Brooke.. I can’t remember exactly what was said, but he told Brooke Steffy got her memory back, and so on.. So she would know that Steffy confronted Sheila defending her..
DeleteAhh, so we can rule Taylor and Staffy out in this CPS scam. That leaves Thomas.
DeleteColly Brooke never knew that Thomas new about what Sheila , Brooke never questioned how Steffy found out she just was shock and kept it moving . All this is still a big secret of Thomas knowing
DeleteThomas called CPS on he's son and framing Brook for it not to mentioned he's dad did say brook said she would call CPS he's stirring up trouble for them
ReplyDeleteI agree it just has to be Thomas. But beyond that, there was a whole lotta nothin’ in today’s episode.
ReplyDeleteYeah it was a snooze fest today. I hate when Friday's episode is boring, but that's par for the course on this show lately
DeleteSad but true, Hilary. 😞
DeleteThomas always will remain a psycho creep, he should rot in jail with all the Marone Mafia
ReplyDeleteUnlike the mattress called Brooke!!
DeleteOr worse... still the mattress that is Taylor or Steffy! Steffy has been through the entire Spencer family (watch out for the one that is at boarding school too, he will be her next target).
DeleteAs for Taylor she has a tardy history with sleeping around, funniest one there is when her children were Erics grandchildren/stepchildren😂 😂
@Maur and let's not forget Rick...🙈 both Taylor and Steffy bagged him, even both engaged him 😅 then Steffy was all "I'm a Marone, nothing weird here"...
DeleteThe difference is Maur, that Brooks ALWAYS targeted married men of men in committed relationships, Taylor did not.. That’s ALWAYS and will always be Brookes MO.. She didn’t get that title for no reason.. And yes, Taylor’s slept with many men, but Brooks still holds the title for the most, and she has broken up more marriages and destroyed families, including Taylor’s, not one but several times.. So 🧐🧐🧐 not sure what your really trying to get at..
DeleteSteffy 😂😂 I'd take your more seriously if it weren't for that clown costume. Who is dressing her?!
ReplyDeleteThomas if it really isn't you, you should stop acting so creepily. It looks all kinds of set up by him. At this point it looks to me like he really hired those guys to pose as CPS. And the fishy guy with the recording.
And for crying out loud, check your history before talking out of your ass. Brooke didn't betray Ridge with Thorne or with Eric. If anything, she dumped them FOR him 🤣
Seriously why would Brooke leave her name and then deny it. Whoever's behind this isn't the sharpest tool in the box.
M, I agree, I don’t think it was either Brook or Thomas.. They are making it too obvious it one of them..
DeleteM, I agree with you, especially about that bunch of shiny rags steffy is wearing 😂 Who wears a damn trench coat sitting around the house and the office. Take your damn jacket off. And that skirt was a hot mess. For fashion designers, they sure wear some ugly shite
DeleteThe look on Brooke's face while talking to Liam and the things she said made her look very guilty. They are making it too obvious that it's either Brooke or Thomas. That's why I don't think it's either of them.
DeleteElle yes Brooke was also borderline creepy with the little dry smile 😅 and the "it must be someone who loves Douglas very much" line... it also annoyed me how both of them with Liam are not more concerned - someone reported Thomas about a knife situation that only she witnessed. It wasn't some stranger on the street!
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Delete@Colly: to me Charlie is involved for sure. Unless he's also a red herring but then they are too many 😅
I was thinking also Steffy - she was way too agitated when Finn came over and kept ranting Brooke will be stopped... which was around the time CPS were there... and the spoiler I read says "Will Taylor forgive Steffys most recent machition?" For all my despise of her, I don't think she'd be that cruel but who knows what she and Thomas may have orchestrated without us knowing... and it would be more inventive than his "I slept with Brooke on an island" lie that last led Taylor and Ridge to the altar or the texting from Ridge's phone the time before. Ah I just want to know 😁😁
@Hilary I don't know, but you're right. For fashion house CEO this is embarrassing 🙈
DeleteM, Steffy doesn’t know about the voice app?..
Delete@Colly I don't think she only knows or does what we see she knows or does. I think her and Thomas (with Douglas) talk more often. And for a mystery I think there should be behind the scenes play 😀 her character is generally not like that, I think, so not at all pointing the finger for sure at her. But it could be an interesting story!
DeleteRidge and Thomas didn’t tell Taylor or Steffy about the CPS threat. Those two would have gone to Brooke straight away if they had!
DeleteBrook smiling like the cat that ate the canar over the call and liam both brook and liam seem guilty of making the call to cps or they put someone up to it..brook isnt worried about douglas shes trying to start and win a war against taylor thom and stephy and liam doesnt care about douglas either hes just jealous of hope being anywhere near thomas
ReplyDeleteYes, Pammy, she keeps going back to her conspiracy theory , that it’s ALL Taylor, and she is responsible for EVERYTHING, because she is trying to get Ridge back.. It couldn’t possibly be because Douglas asked Thomas if he thinks of him and misses him when they are not together?? It couldn’t possibly be anything except Taylor trying to break up her marriage.. How insecure can she be.. And Taylor was responsible for her destroying her own marriage, it was Taylor’s fault she egged deacon to stay and drink with her, and it was Taylor’s fault she kissed Deacon and he stayed the night.. Everything is all because of Taylor!!
DeleteColly, Taylor has admitted that she is deliberately coming after Brookes marriage! All the time acting like some half witted school girl, because she either is a half wit or thinks shes being cute...either way it`s trashy and stupid.
DeleteShe is openly playing the part of homewrecker and yet wants us to believe her bs about her having integrity, I have yet to see said integrity in any shape or form!!
She too has worked her way through the Forrester men, so where is this integrity she says she has?! At least Brooke doesn`t deny or try to hide her indiscretions, she owns them, while saint Taylor is full of herself and bs.
What part of Australia are you from Colly?
Maur, Taylor did nothing to come between Ridge and Brooke, except the kiss in monico which was initiated by Ridge, and she apologised to Brooke for it.. She has not tried to come between them.. Ridge tried to get her sleep with him after he took his wedding ring off and she said no, it’s not gonna happen… So, what exactly has she done to try and come between them exactly?? Did she sleep with or even try to get him into bed?? No, she wouldn’t even accept a ride home from the family dinner that Ridge offered her, even though he knew she came with Steffy.. She has not done a thing..?? And she did not admit she was trying to come between him and Brooke?? She just said in this episode she is not a home wrecker , which she has never gone after a married in the past or now.. Ridge is giving her major mixed signals.. So Iu sure where you are coming from??
DeleteBrook looking like she knows exactly who called cps..maybe she put the familys babysitter up to calling it in ot brook herself called it in because she never thought ridge or thom would find out due to privacy rules cps has seriously liam? How would you fell if someone called cps on yawl saying that your home is unsafe enviroment for children? And accuse you of being unstable?
ReplyDeleteIt could be Thomas who made the call before he came home knowing that it will destroy his dads marriage....but I am hoping it's not home...he has worked so hard on himself....I hope the writers do pin this on Thomas
ReplyDeleteWhat I see happening of late , is the writers are bringing back old characters and story lines that were popular in the past, when ratings were highest in the past, in an attempt to boost ratings.. So they could very well be revisiting Thomas’s dark side, because everyone loved that time period.. There’s a lot of dialogue lately that is revisiting the past to try to remind viewers of the past history, like what ridge was saying last Friday and Taylor talking about when Ridge proposed to her yesterday, obviously they can’t show flashbacks because it’s two different actors, but there is a lot of past history being brought up of recent.. CBS only renewed the show for one year, and I think writers are worried they will get cancelled, but ironically, they seem to think it for other reasons, not because the dialogue is pretty much the same everyday.. The writers need to watch the show back for a couple of weeks , so they can see what we see, and where all their “hard work” is leading the show to!!
ReplyDeleteThomas did not do anything. I know who made the call and will be so happy when the truth comes out so the Logan "lovers" can shut up geez!!!!!! Sick of Brooke and her "mini-me" always winning. Taylor, let Ridge have that headache. There is a man out there who will only love you!!!! He deserves thirty more years of pain inflicted by his "Logan!'
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DeleteValinda, that`s just because they are better people than the Maroneys. Good people usually win, hence Brooke and Hope treat each other with respect. Which is a damn side more than Steffy or Thomas do for their parents.
DeleteBrooke does not treat Hope with respect, she treats her like a child. Any normal mother would respect the decisions their kid makes when it comes to their own lives. Even if they think they're wrong, the parent would advise and guide. But Brooke goes behind Hope's back and does what she thinks is right without any regard for how Hope might feel about it. She does it time and time again.
DeleteAlso, good people don't always win. It's the ones that trick and deceive and trample over others who always get to the top. Matter of fact, there's a saying "good people always come last." Not the exact saying but it is slipping my old brain right now. 😂
🤣🤣🤣 correct Elle, because good people don’t do what you just said.. And the funniest thing, is that despite all Brookes manipulations etc to snag Ridge, he CHOSE Taylor initially.. He married her first, despite Brookes best efforts to break them apart, and Brooks only “Won”, because she got him by default, when Taylor died.. Then, when William Bell died, in 2005, his idiot son took over and rewrote history!!
Delete@Elle I have heard that saying from my grandmother. Now I have to look that up. She always used to tell me too. 'Surroud only good people in your life and there will always be love and happiness. Something like that. My old brain is forgetting the old saying too. 😔
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DeleteColly 🫂 lol
Delete🤣🤣🤣 check your emails love..
DeleteCould be Caroline I read something that she may return to the show 🤔
ReplyDeleteNow thats a storyline I could follow...who knows? It's a soap....
DeleteYes, that’s a really good one.. I don’t think Caroline ever liked Brooks, and maybe she found out Hope has adopted Douglas, and is trying to get the Logan’s out of the way, for when she returns?? I wonder what would happen with hope adopting Douglas, if she came back? From a legal stance?
DeleteI would expect that her rights as biological mom would supersede Hope's. Ah btw this Ridge and Caroline, despite the terrifying age difference, had some good moments together. If she came back maybe they can get back together. Not that Ridge needs to pull another woman in his web of crazy. But I like the idea of her returning.
Delete@M I really liked Ridge and Caroline together. Thought they made a very cute couple.
DeleteI did too, I thought they had mad chemistry.. I liked them together.. I hope she comes back!! That would really stir things up 🤣🤣 especially if it was her who called cps!!
DeleteBrooke looked very suspicious today. This is getting very confusing now. I have initially thought it could be Charlie but Brooks' s behavior was very strange today.
ReplyDeleteSoh, I think that’s what the writers are intentionally trying to do.. I think they are trying to make it a true “who done it mystery” 🤣🤣🤣 and it will probably turn out to be some one totally unexpected, like Charlie or Pam or even paris 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteD, check your emails love ❤️
ReplyDeleteEveryone seem to forget how much of a physcho Thomas Is Emma death is still hidden till this day , Steffy is just a Sl*t from the Valley as Brooke , Taylor deserve a better man that Ridge and Better kids too because none of her kids seems to care she is hurting!
ReplyDeleteSteffy's not from the valley though. She was born and raised in LA. 😂😂😂
Delete🤣🤣🤣 good one Elle..
DeleteAlso, I think u r right Elle, about it being Douglas or Charlie??
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ReplyDeleteSo hmm... Brooke and Liam acknowledged today that Douglas is not in any danger based on the CPS investigation. Now that they don't have that as an excuse anymore, they're back to "Douglas should be home because he needs a routine." But even that didn't sound right so Brooke decided to blame Taylor. Thomas wanting the opportunity to raise his son is all because Taylor wants to come between her and Ridge.
ReplyDeleteThere's no end to Brooke's lunacy. Sigh.
🤣🤣🤣 yes, typical!! She went after Thomas because of that in the first place Elle.. it has NEVER been about Douglas’s well being.. She just can’t use that excuse anymore, now that cps has determined Douglas is safe.. So it’s back to the drawing board, and original conspiracy theory.. So what is she going to use to argue with Ridge about now?? Is she going to say it out right to him? Oh wait, she already did that..
DeleteUmm actually no she didn`t say she did,
Deleteshe said she would if she had to.
Maur?? What are you referring to??
DeleteIf the spoilers are right and Brooke finds out who called them, I am curious to know how she is going to be able to do that? Even if she goes to that same man that Ridge went to, there’s still no way to prove she didn’t do it because, it’s her voice on the recording.. I think she will see or hear Douglas using that app and think she is putting 2 and 2 together that she thinks Thomas did it?? The only other ones I can think of , is Douglas or Pammy, cause we all know Pammy has screws loose and is on meds for it, maybe to try to get rid of Brooke so Ridge will go back to Taylor, because she could have overheard Ridge telling Thomas about Brooke and cps, because Pammy loves Taylor, or Charlie overheard and did it, or he told Pammy about what he overheard and she did it?? It wouldn’t be hard for Pammy to get Brookes voice on that app?? But all I know, is either the writers do really think us fans are stupid because it’s too obvious it’s Thomas or Brooke, or there is a big twist?? I am leaning towards the latter, because they didn’t show it on screen.. or it could be it is actually one of them, but it’s the, who done it, because they both look suspicious.. The way they are both acting, it’s neck and neck??
ReplyDeletePammy alone maybe not because we haven't seen her in months but Charlie plus Pammy could be. Or Charlie for Pammy. Maybe Charlie was the one who showed the app to Douglas in the first place. He could be tech savvy as a security guard even though he otherwise looks incompetent 🙈
DeleteYes, plus he is a big kid in an adult body.. remember those theme nights where they dressed up as knights in armour and women as wenches, Ally went to a few nights with them.. so it could be a possibility and Elle actually questioned how weird he was acting.. or they could have found out from nosey Paris who has been asking a lot of questions and wants to know everything going on.. here’s a thought, maybe Zende and Paris, Zende did say he would be on board, when he was at steffy’s when Taylor said are Steffy and Thomas trying to recruit you in this, he responded he would?? Maybe he overheard, because he and Paris have been in the office a lot.. remember when they were talking and Thomas said he has to step up his game and Ridge said it’s him who needs to? Zende knows everything that’s going on??
DeleteAnd with Ridge asking Charlie to keep an eye on where Brooke is in the office, he could have listened in on Brooke talking to Hope and Liam, he can be sneaky like that.. and that gesture he did, the “I look out for you boss”.. And Ridge had to ask him to close the door behind him, when he came in to tell Ridge where Brook was, I am sure he is being nosey.. and that was just after Ridge told him about Brooke threatening to call protective services..
DeleteColly your clues make a lot of sense and now I'm starting to think it's "they're all in on it" kind of thing 😂
DeleteBut isn't Pam pro-Logan now? She and Donna are besties and she accepted Brooke a long time ago after Brooke and Stephanie became friends. I don't think she would turn on her in this instance. But then again, with this show, who knows?
DeleteI'm not convinced about Charlie. He's way too much of a klutz and has nothing to gain (and everything to lose) by doing something like this. Like M said previously, I think he might just be a red herring. Although I could be hella wrong! 😂🤣
Elle that's true too. I also don't know if Pam is even around anymore (the actress still in the show). But Charlie looked so weirdly invested in the Forresters that maybe he was at least part of it, not the mastermind.
DeleteThey make out like her and Donna are always at the reception desk but you never see them unless they need them for something.. and Pam is always listening in..
DeleteElle, Pam and Donna get along ok now, but I think if it came down to her having to choose between Logan’s and Forresters, then she would jump on the Forrester band wagon??
Delete$$$-Bill is supposed to figure it out somehow and he offers to fly Brooke to Aspen so she can tell Ridge what she learned. But then I think Brooke decides to take the Forrester jet and go alone. So if Brooke is there to let Ridge know what really happened, it can’t be Brooke. It’s Thomas or Steffy (or both). It’s def not Brooke. I initially thought it was Liam until they came up with the voice recording. Then Liam was no longer a suspect. Douglas has zero reason to do something like that. Douglas loves Grandma Brooke. It’s def Thomas…or possibly Thomas & Steffy planned this whole ruse to frame Brooke. This is gonna drive Ridge right back to Brooke.
ReplyDeleteThen I hope she dumps him!!!
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DeleteMe too, he`s as stupid as Taylor, they deserve each other!
DeleteMe too 😀😀 for Bill please 🥰!! I somehow find Steffy still suspicious even though previously she has shown different behavior like when she confronted Sheila for what she did to Brooke with the champagne. But the determination with which she speaks recently that Brooke's days are counted, she promises they are... It's not impossible that she and Thomas cooked up something.
DeleteWhere Douglas is concerned, it's not so much about not loving grandma, it's about loving and wanting to be with his dad more than anything else. He has already shown preference for wanting to stay at the Forrester mansion over returning to the cabin.
DeleteI get the impression that Douglas loves ALL of his family very much. He is around 8 - 10 years old I’m guessing and I think it’s normal for boys his age to want to be around their fathers, especially since living with Thomas is a novelty right now. However, saying that Douglas has the foresight to think that all the way through (setting up Brooke) just makes no sense. I don’t think Douglas was around when Ridge told Thomas about Brooke’s threat. And even if Douglas somehow got wind of it, he wouldn’t set his dad up to get visited by CPS in an effort to somehow get Brooke in trouble. I just can’t imagine that’s the case. This deception was very likely planned by a scheming adult who thought it all the way through. That’s why my money is on Thomas or Thomas / Steffy combo. Hopefully we find out next week. If this drags on and on like the Sheila thing, it’s going to be very disappointing!
DeleteI also can't imagine Douglas planning the thing, like thinking the thoughts required to set up grandma to report dad to CPS. It's not something a child would come up with, esp a healthy one. And that's even before getting to the execution.
DeleteIt may turn out that his intention was not even about Brooke. He may have just wanted to call CPS so that when they came, he would be able to tell them himself how happy he is living with his dad. Brooke's voice was used because she was the one berating Thomas about the knife. If Douglas was close by listening in, he had ample opportunity to record Brooke's voice, and not necessarily to set her up or get her in trouble.
DeleteIf Douglas was listening in then could have also potentially seen his dad holding a knife in a threatening manner toward Grandma and telling grandma that she will NOT interfere in his grandpa’s life again (very angrily). Those are the things that would make kids have nightmares, not prompt them to call CPS to have them come out and see that everything was “fine”. A kid that age wouldn’t know the range of questioning that kind of agency engages in. For all Douglas knew, his dad could have gotten in trouble. If I’m wrong and it turns out to be Douglas, I will admit I was wrong and I will say a nice thing about Taylor every day for a week. Lol 😂😂. That’s how sure I am that it is NOT Douglas who sabotaged Brooke.
DeleteAlso, he might have picked up the tension when Brooke first came in and had that look on her face, and he was there when she told Thomas to use something safer, and when Thomas said he’s been cutting apples like that his whole life, and when Thomas said it’s no big deal.. He is a smart intuitive kid.. And the way he handled the cps officers, especially when they asked him if he felt safe.. That whole interaction of him speaking to cps, was above average, to speak the way he did.. And if he did do it, he probably wasn’t expecting them to find out about the recording.. So it’s not implausible.. He has probably overheard a lot of things, by many different conversations.. He has been shown to be listening in, in the past.. If he was listening in on the conversation, that would have been the perfect opportunity to record her voice? And I don’t think Thomas has been around Brooke for a long while, and his phone was nowhere in sight while they were talking, so when would he have the opportunity to record her voice?
DeleteWell I think Thomas could have recorded her voice by way of a voicemail she left for Ridge. Or interaction Brooke has had with Steffy, if Steffy is involved in it. It just doesn’t make sense to me that he would try to get Brooke in trouble. He loves his grandma. And as I already said, he had no idea how CPS was gonna respond to Thomas when they talked. Even as an adult it just seems to be inviting trouble. Not to mention the person who left the message said Brooke’s full name. So Douglas would have known full well this could easily be traced back to grandma. If Douglas truly wanted CPS to come out and bless the Forrester home and leave grandma out of it, he would not have had to say Brooke’s name at all on the recording. He could have used anyone’s voice and made the call anonymous. The person who did this clearly wanted it to be known that Brooke was behind the reporting. So I still say no way it’s Douglas. But hopefully we don’t have to wait weeks and weeks to find out.
DeleteAnd I would say just as strongly that Brooke definitely do it. She would own it if Ridge asked her directly.
*That was supposed to say….I would say just as strongly that Brooke definitely didn’t do it.
DeleteBrooke has always hated Thomas and has said nasty things about him in front of son in the past. Douglas is a clever lad and knows Brooke hates his da. He knows she wants him to go back to Hope’s dark, dank, dingy cabin. What bairn wouldn’t rather be somewhere bright, sunny, FUN and with his father?? His dad helps do his homework his Granda and GreatGranda spend time and teach him things. He’s being allowed to be a child for a change instead of the free babysitter for his baby sister who apparently hasn’t aged at the same rate as her sister Kelly or Douglas lol.
DeleteDouglas normally spends ALL his time with a sitter or being the sitter so it’s good for him to just be a wee fella and get to know his family.
The truth is Hope has monopolised his time for years. She takes him ALL holidays etc. His own family have been stuck and not only that had to listen to Brooke blather on about terrible his father is and try to replace him with Liam. Brooke wanted Thomas completely removed from Thomas’s life and still does.
@BBfan You're so right. Kids pick up a lot of things. When we think they're not looking or listening, they are. And you never know what it might lead them to do.
DeleteIf it turns out to be Douglas, I am sure his aim was not to set up his grandma but to just really have the opportunity to let CPS know how he feels and what he wants. Brooke is just collateral damage since she was the one that was shouting at Thomas and therefore, Douglas was able to record her voice.
So true Bbfan and Elle!! If it was Douglas, I think he would have thought no one would find out who it was anyway, but had to pretend to be an adult, because he can’t exactly report his father himself, using his voice and name, they would have just took him away.. so that’s why he would have used Brooke , and it would be more believable that it’s her because would have picked up the tension between them also..
Delete@ Colly, thank you for spelling Brooke’s name correctly. It’s appreciated. 😊
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DeleteAlso lynn, I hope our discussion can extend beyond us and to everyone on the blog.. it would be great if everyone could get along no matter who their faves are or what their opinions.. as we discussed on Wednesday, it’s fictional show and characters, but we can all be pleasant to each other, respect each other because it’s not good to stress over silly things..
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DeleteI said it before and I'll say it again, "Joint Custody" best solution!
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! Not sure why can’t do what about 65% of the population does - joint custody!
DeleteWhy does it even have to come to that? Hope and Thomas are working things out just fine on their own. It's Brooke and Liam who are making an issue and seeing threats where there are none.
DeleteI've said it before and I'll say it again, Thomas and Hope are Douglas' parents. Everyone else needs to butt out!
Well if it turns out that Thomas did in fact frame Brooke, then yeah, it shouldn’t come to that (joint custody.) Primary physical custody should definitely go back to Hope. It will prove that Thomas is still very unhinged.
DeleteI agree with Elle, if it were me personally, and others were doing what Brooks and Liam are doing, I would be Livid.. In all honesty, I don’t blame Thomas for lashing out the way he did.. She went there, to confront him, make demands, telling him to butt out of her business, then went on to stick her nose where it doesn’t belong.. So, sorry, I don’t blame him for losing it at her.. Who does she think she is, to walk in and start at him like that.. I personally would have been furious and lashed out just as much!! Then, she went on a rampage, threatening to call cps, and making everyone believe he was playing with a samurai sword 🗡 with Douglas, conveniently leaving out it was a bloody pocket knife that fits in your pocket, and that he was using it to cut up a bloody apple.. I hope it wasn’t Thomas, and I don’t think it was, but who could blame him.. Everyone knows that Brooke will stop at nothing, when she wants something or thinks she is right about something.. She went behind Hopes back, to demand Douglas go back to Hope, then freaked Hope out, as she always does.. How is Hope going to look when she goes to Thomas and confronts him about the knife, and finds out it wasn’t a massive knife and he was cutting an apple.. I am so over her lies and manipulations, sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong, undermining Hope all the time.. And, when cps deemed the all clear, she as much as admitted that it’s not about Douglas, it’s all about Taylor trying to take Ridge from her!!
DeleteWell of course I see it very differently. I see it as Thomas and Steffy butting into Brooke’s marriage to Ridge and trying to destroy it with everything they have. So I don’t think Thomas is justified at all. Whomever did this is very underhanded and sneaky. Brooke telling Thomas she wants Douglas back in the cabin with Hope isn’t underhanded or sneaky. She’s simply telling Thomas directly what she sees as being the best living situation for Douglas. She is grandma after all and does have a right to her opinion. At this point she has not done anything underhanded to try to get Douglas back. I think setting Brooke up like this definitely crosses a line. And while I agree that she sees Taylor, Thomas and Steffy as coming after her marriage, I think Brooke genuinely loves Douglas. And I believe she wants Douglas back for that reason as well.
DeleteLynn, I agree with you, where Steffy and Thomas are concerned, they are going way too far.. But, having said that, Brooke did break up their family more than once in the past, using underhanded tactics, and she has always treated Ridges kids with Taylor, with disdain.. I am not having a dig at you about not watching the show back then, I am merely saying that, although they are taking it too far, they have a lot of resentment from past history, and they just want to see their parents happy, and Brookes most recent oopsie, was not the first, and wont be the last.. They see how happy he is with their mother, and he has admitted outright, he loves both Brooke and Taylor.. The conversation from the last Friday , when I was away, said it all..
DeleteAnd to say Brooke has not done anything underhanded to get Douglas back, to start with, she is undermining Hope at every turn, nagging her constantly, is now manipulating with the knife thing, saying it was a big knife and leaving out the cutting an apple, making threats to call cps, accusing Taylor and Thomas and Steffy of talking Thomas into taking Douglas so it would cause a rift with her and Ridge, putting pressure on Liam to get on Hopes back..
She said it herself Lynn, when Hope went to the family dinner, she told Liam, now that they have Douglas over there, they are using it as a “lure” to get Ridge over there.. Thomas was concerned that Douglas asked him if he misses him when they are not together.. This is why Thomas wants custody of HIS son.. He has shown great respect to Hope for her role in Douglas’s life.. And Brooke has been on EVERYONE’s back since Douglas went to Thomas..
It’s NOT her place or decision.. It’s been years in soap land since Thomas’s brain surgery.. He has not done anything to Hope since.. He could have had his chance with Hope, with Liam’s blessing mind you, and could have left Liam to rot in prison, while he took Hope, but no, he got Liam out of prison, back to Hope and his family.. And what does Liam do in return, accuses him of being unchanged, because Thomas wants to step up and be a good father and presence in HIS sons life?? Come on Lynn.. Even Hope was not impressed Brooke went there behind her back to get Douglas.. Brooks told and expects Thomas to stay out of her marriage, then went on and on about what Thomas had to do.. And when cps deemed there was NO danger whatsoever, even when Thomas showed them the knife, now she is back to saying, it all Taylor “plan” to comd between her and Ridge..
Yes, I believe Brooks loves Douglas, but not enough to do what’s best for him.. Thomas has done nothing to give cause he has not changed, and it’s only because he wants his son, now all of a sudden, she she has issues?? And she has been at it way before the knife.. She is stirring major trouble.. She should take her own advice, and keep out of other peoples business!!
I honestly never once heard Brooke refer to it as a “Big knife”. Just heard her say Thomas had a knife. It was a good sized pocket knife, however. Her reaction when she walked in the door and saw Thomas cutting an apple and getting upset by that was stupid. But Thomas holding it pointed toward her and threatening her was very bad on Thomas’s part. I don’t think she should have gone over there alone. But I do think she had a right to be there. She should have gone with Hope.
DeleteAnd clearly nobody on the show minds their own business. When Thomas gets busted for framing a Brooke, I think there’s gonna be hell to pay. Thomas has been playing the sabotage Brooke’s marriage to Ridge game since well before this whole Douglas battle started.
DeleteShe said it wasn’t just a knife, it was a good sized knife with her gestures and tone of voice exaggerating it to be a lot bigger, and she didn’t say pocket knife, she left that part out, because pocket knives fit in pockets
DeleteBrooke was being misleading though about the knife. She went on and on about Thomas was standing there with a knife next to Douglas. Not once does she mention the apple that was also in his hand and that was being sliced at that time. She’s going out of her way to create panic in Hope and Liam so Hope will have to run over and grab Douglas.
DeleteThat is manipulative and not at all called for!
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Delete@Colly only reg the part of Brooke breaking up their family more than once - that never happened once. It was Ridge who broke up the family. Brooke didn't even want him the time he left Taylor (because of the James secret), she wanted Nick. At the time it was all between Ridge and Taylor. And all the next times he returned to Taylor it was because of the kids machinations and lies to break THEM up. I have watched during that times :)
DeleteExactly Bbfan!!
DeleteMaybe it was Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick. 😬😬😬
ReplyDeleteOr, maybe it was cowboy 🤠 Thomas in the living room with the 🍎🔪...
DeleteYes, it’s definately a classic “who done it” 🤣🤣
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DeleteOr, maybe it was Sheila in the alley with a gun 🔫 ...
DeleteOh no, wait - that was the answer to the last "who done it"... 😂
Can't blame 9-toed Sheila for everything! 🤣🐾🤣
It was Sheila!
DeleteSheila: "Paybacks are hell, Brooke! Cheers" 🍾🥂 😂
DeleteOldfan that thought crossed my mind, but I am not sure if she knows that Thomas has Douglas and how would she know about the knife?
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ReplyDelete@Elle Exactly! Everyone else should just butt out. Especially Luam who ran over Vinnie and lied about it, and Brooke who manipulated Douglas into lying for her.
ReplyDeletewhy should we blame Brooke if she called the CPS ? we should do this if we think a child threatend.......
ReplyDeleteHow is a parent cutting an apple a threat??
DeleteExactly BBf. I was taught how to use pocket knives at his age. Especially out camping.
Delete🤣🤣🤣 exactly!! And Brook didn’t really react that much after she found out they deemed him safe!! I thought she would have went on a rant about it??
DeleteD, so was I
DeleteBBfan101 of course cutting an apple isn t a threat....I said what Brooke might think...if she did it.Anyway ii is to eazy to be Brooke maybe its Tomas or Sheila or someone that we can not imagine..lets see
DeleteShe took the opportunity to over exaggerate the whole knife thing and make Thomas look unhinged. It will backfire I hope.?
ReplyDeleteColly you will be getting a novel tomorrow. 😇 👼
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DeleteI still say Brooke would not have given her name. And I think she would have told Liam, since they're so chummy lately. I think it was Thomas. He's going so hard core negative about Brooke to Ridge. If it does come out that it was Thomas, it will be after Ridge has reunited with Taylor. Then what will Ridge do?
ReplyDeleteThanks so much Bob for all you do
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