Okay, Donna, time to go tell your sister, Brooke, all about Douglas fooling you with a phone app that plays other people's voice. And, also how Thomas was so stern with Douglas regarding playing with the app... Hurry, please, we are ready to see the fallout! 😂
Donna made such a big deal of Thomas being stern with Douglas about the app. Thomas has told Douglas on numerous occasions about the app and Douglas keeps disobeying him.
But yeah, let's get this storyline moving. The reveal has been way too long in coming.
And why didn't Ridge find it suspicious that Thomas was asking him if he told anyone else about the CPS call?
Renee i'm thinking the same as you are that Donna will go to her sister Brooke and tell her how Thomas was acting around his son about the voice changing app and Brooke will probably figure out that Thomas used the voice changing app himself to change his voice to make it sound like she was the one who called CPS.
Douglas is a cutie but he is being totally disobedient with the app. Donna shouldn’t be encouraging him to disobey his father like that! She is so clueless about children. Even if Thomas hadn’t used the app himself for nefarious purposes, he’s correct in setting boundaries with Douglas.
Hope was spot on with Brooke. Her own attitude is and always has been a problem. She never admits she has anything to do with the breakdown of her relationships.
Again why does she want Ridge? I hate they make the women on the show so dependent on having a man. Turn themselves wrong side out just to placate cheating idiots 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@Elle The reason for Ridge not being suspicious of Thomas I think, is because he is right now believing in his son being a good guy. As you can see Ridge has got the blinders 😎on him in NOT recognizing his son's manipulative games at this moment. My question is, "Who will be the one to expose him?" 🕵️♀️🕵️♀️🕵️♀️
@BBfan101 I agree with you Douglas should be messing around with it because what if Douglas decided to use Brooke's voice on the app, whoever heard it could put 2&2 together and think he was the one to set up Brooke. Thomas is trying to cover his tracks. I ask myself the question why she really wants Ridge? Could it be for his charm (Oh, please! what charm, look how he has treated Taylor through the years), could it be she finds him great in bed? or could it be she loves to pull his strings and control him? 🕵🕵️♀️
Why doesn't Thomas just delete the app himself and put some restrictions on Douglas phone?
Btw I can totally see Donna (the chess gross master that she is 😅) figuring out how to retrieve deleted recordings and bibbidi-bobbidi-boo it all comes to light.
@Milla I think the writers wanted that way, in fact, I read somewhere he is going to use his app once again to make sure Brooke is gone from his father's life for good, but he will get a SHOCK on who finally catches him. So, my bet will be between Ridge, Hope, Taylor, or Steffy, cause I think those are the ones he doesn't want them to find out. Who do you think would shock and expose Thomas?
Elizabeth I'm thinking maybe Steffy, because the writers will want to prolong that storyline, and she is the only one who wouldn't tell on him immediately.
I hope by the time Ridge finds out that Brooke has made a bedmate out of Liam, Bill, or Deacon and he leaves Taylor before he knows and he loses both. 😂😂😂
Hypocrite Taylor speaking about brook like she is any better, like she never did anything to hurt brook even stole medical reports just to hurt brook even ridge was not in the picture Of course brook was so horrible at that time slept with bill which was wrong But Taylor is no better She slept with more men including all the males in brook’s family except for RJ She used to pick up random men in bars while drunk and sleep with them since she is also an alcoholic So how she thinks she is better Brook never attempted to kill anyone at least
Bbfan 😂😂😂 Really you compare a mother seeing her daughter been grabbing by a psychopath murderer like this and not try to protect her And she was pushing him away from hope and he fail down It was an accident So according to your logic we can consider steffy protecting herself against aly a murder since aly died I wonder if you see your daughter in such situation what would you do May god bless your children
@Mmysh thank you. I'm so done correcting the twisting of facts that happens around here and so glad when someone (especially new 🤗) does it. Brooke didn't "shove" Thomas, she pushed him away from Hope to protect her and he lost balance and fell. Every criminal/evil thing Thomas has done was deliberate.
@ milla thank you in return Even when they were in the hospital and brook said to ridge that he was hurting hope (thats what she thought) Hope has the decency to tell the truth that he wasn’t Something steffy will never do Of course brook so afraid of the police Any sane person will be But it wasn’t intentional And im not new Actually i couldn’t comment before it was really bad especially when i see someone try to manipulate the events But then i fixed the issue in my phone 😀
I have to watch the episode of the cliff pushing again, because I also have a problem with the "left him to die" part, I'm betting that didn't happen - they can't have just run off the scene. @Mmysh glad you can comment 🤗🤗
😂😂😂 since she and hope and ridge was there i don’t know how exactly she left him to die 😂😂😂 And yeah hun you can watch it easily now on youtube The official channel of B&b just downloaded it recently
Ah yes I'm watching exactly there so many episodes they upload. I've been keeping up on that storyline and just now finally watched that episode so many people bring up - Steffy and Liam sleeping together after Mannequingate, episode 8409. And so glad to be able to say that: 1. Liam was not begging for Steffy to take him back, not by a long shot. He simply said (in his drunken frenzy): "So glad you didn't take down this picture [of the two of them]. It's a symbol of what was and what could still be." That's all it took for Steffy to start making out with him. And speaking of... 2. She didn't beg him to go home. She said twice "You should go home and talk to Hope" but just sat there, drank with him and started kissing him first chance. I even watched the episode from the morning after to be sure if Liam didn't then, clear-headed, say he wants to be taken back. Not at all. Said he should have slept at the office. Only making that clear because I've seen a lot of twisting the plot here how innocent Steffy was and begged him to go home (and yet still threw him a mercy F) and how Liam was the one begging her to take him back 😅😂
Milla, did you miss the part where Liam asked Steffy how serious she and Finn were?
When a man tells his ex about things could still be the way it was before together with asking her how things are with her current beau, it indicates to me that he wants another chance at a relationship with his ex. Liam had just gotten there and hadn't been drinking that long so he was still pretty lucid. Now maybe he said those things out of hurt and anger at what he thought Hope did - I'll give him that - but it certainly wasn't because he had too much too drink.
Similarly, with Brooke. She pushed Thomas, he fell off the cliff, she knew he fell, but did she try to make it right by way of calling for help? No, she didn't. She left him there. The least she could have done was call Ridge or someone.
As regards the "twisting of facts," (not necessarily facts since its all fiction) people have different views of what happens on the show based on who they support. The LFs, for example, will never say that Brooke overreacted to Thomas peeling an apple with his pocket knife even though those "facts" were very plain to see. He was peeling an apple. Everyone does it.
@Elle I didn't miss the part where he asked but not sure why that matters? 😅 It doesn't show any bigger interest in a future with her with or without the question. Especially on the next morning when they talked it went like this: She: what do you think about what happened? Him: what do you think? Her: I asked you first. Him: I'm committed to Hope, you have a boyfriend. Her:... Right. So not much difference that question. And he spent (so far I've seen) three episodes convincing everyone possible Hope is all he wants. So please 😅
And Brooke and Hope really didn't call anyone but they left Thomas to die? Who found him and when, how did they know where to look? How did he survive? I have to rewatch that because it's a bit hard to believe.
Okay I watched the episode... Are you kidding me?! Ridge was there, they all ran down to Thomas and called 911. What do you people mean left him to die? 😅
@milla you better watch the episode But i will tell you what happened After thoms fail the three of them went down immediately brook ridge and hope And hope called 911 in her way down Brook insisted she didn’t push him to the cliff she pushed his away from hope coz as she thought he was hurting her And the rest i told you before And she was devastated when hope told her infront of ridge that she (hope) didn’t feel threatened by Thomas or thought he is going to hurt her At this moment brook was so devastated and felt guilty and sad about how can she do that Although brook has many flaws but she is so protective and sympathetic person i give her that What sheila did to her was only because she care and was protecting steffy’s family I hate the side of brook with all these men and doesn’t have dignity sometimes and hurting the most important people in her life sometimes but also Brooke has always been protective of others at cost of herself from mean cruel people seeking to hurt people in her life despite her so called many misdeeds since beginning of B & B. No thanks of gratitude from others who benefits from her caring protective side even when it benefits people who has always tries to destroyed her relationship with Ridge and herself personally. Brooke's heart and kindness in protective concerns is bigger than most people give her credit for. Stephanie Douglas Forrester herself had finally saw this protective caring side of Brooke that reminded her of herself when she had truly open up towards forgiveness, acceptance and respect with loving friendship relationship
And I see we share very very similar views about Brooke - I also think she's caring and protective 👌🏼👌🏼 and the men - of course she's been selfish where they are concerned. To me one of the worst even wasn't Deacon (my unpopular opinion is that Bridget had no business marrying him, at 18 no less, he was a scum using her, treated her awfully, even before Brooke and she was so much better off), but the episodes of when she was butting in Nick and Taylor's relationship, they had every right to move on together from Brooke and Ridge and made an amazing couple.
Thanks for the recap, guys. Going by my memory, I only remembered Thomas, Brooke and Hope being there. I did not remember Ridge. When Thomas fell, I remember Brooke taking Hope and leaving. However, based on what y'all are saying, Ridge was there. But this was a scene I wasn't very clear about hence I never got into it much.
@Elle but I will admit after watching the episode that Brooke's pushing was too hard, not only pushing him away and he didn't just lose balance (because anyone would after that push).
@milla totally agree Even hope which maybe theconly character i like I was so mad in the episodes were she dated wayyat and liam at the same time It was wrong and im totally against that There was no excuse especially for hope’s character ark And when she listened to her mother and slept with liam losing her virginity Which cased her a Psychological problems led to meds then she started abusing almost caused her death drowning in the poll Brook was wrong with this advice but she handled it right sending hope to a Psychotherapist to deal with all her issues Even though steffy was using hope’s principles against her at that time But hope shouldn’t have give up them even for liam who was really weak and need sex such a loser I see the flaws of all the characters especially then ones i like And to be fair i don’t consider my self a brook or logens fan but between them and steffy’s clan sure i prefer them most of the time
And for steffy Even i hate here But i really felt really bad when she lost her first child I cried with her the actress is brilliant And when liam walked on her whike pregnant with kelly that was so cruel no pregnant woman should go through this heartache Or when she got addicted to painkillers because she doesn’t want the pain to keep her from proving the good care for kelly And even i was totally with hope taking beth that night i can’t deny the pain steffy went through and sympathize with her She was a mother for beth of course she will resist and heartbroken
Very true, these things I also can't deny and never blindly hated Steffy or Thomas (Taylor I have actually always liked, when it came to her and Brooke I was always enjoying the catfights 😅 so much better writing than now) because they had their good moments, just overall always loved Brooke. Without her to me there is no show.
@ elle no worries dear as long as we are arguing with love ❤️
@ milla yes i agree the push was hard but i don’t blame her as a mother who saw her child getting hurt as she thought But what matter is her intentions was not killing him or for him to fell and she was remorseful for jumping to that conclusion so fast I can’t judge her in this particular incident because as a mother probably i will do the same and my common sense will be blocked But for when hope thought she killed thomas brooks advice was sooo wrong Even she was protecting hope but was wrong and i was against her in that situation should have agreed with hope and supported her decision to come forward and tell the police And support her with a good defense at the court And she should have been more sensitive to her husband Thomas is still his son
Mmysh, I totally agree with you, as long as we are arguing with love!! Sometimes our memories don’t always serve us well, because we are talking 35 years of history, and it’s ok to be wrong and it’s ok to be corrected, and it’s ok to see it differently to others, but as long as it’s as mates, not enemies.. Your outlook is actually refreshing love!! everyone has different recollections, and views of how things happen as Elle pointed out, it’s really nice to be able to disagree or whatever it may be , as mates!!
@colly Yes sweet lady amen to that The world in these day is ugly enough for us to be fighting here over a fictional characters We should try at least to make it a place where we can run away from our worries for a while
Indeed, and saying she is playing the victim that’s crack me up 😂 She is your victim psycho He can lie so easy with perfection But i can’t blame him for hating brook she is the only person who can see him for what he truly is He can’t and couldn’t fool her She can see right through him So for a messed up person like him that’s enough reason for hate
Brooke and Liam have the Thomas radar. I'm so glad Hope finally shut up, no longer blindly defending him after what he tried. Interesting if after everything around Thomas unravels, she will also admit there was the creepy mannequin and the attempted kiss. I'd be a bit embarrassed I closed my eyes to that.
I like hope maybe she is the only one in show i do like But really she was so stupid and naive in the past episodes And being smacked by truth later it’s totally her fault I hope when day she will learn
@Milla When it all unravels, I think Hope is going to realize she is NOT as smart as she thinks she is, cause all this time she put her belief into Thomas in one basket, then her💡 will finally start to think back about the mannequin, the kiss, and all about him talking about how she inspired him, mumbo jumbo, to make those special dresses for her for the fashion show, and she may finally come to realization that all this time he was "OBESSED" and she couldn't pick the signal until then, HELLO HOPE, are you there📞 📞! What is sad though is what will Douglas think if his Dad gets arrrested or goes to get some Psycho help like Dr. Phil, and not from his sweet dear mom Taylor.
So let me get this straight. Thomas resorts to trickery, deceit, pretense and using his son, all so he can get Hope and he is an obsessed psycho. Now, there's no trickery or deceit or pretense with Hope. He's 100% upfront with her. He is spending time with his son trying to be a good dad, working and spending time with his family instead of devising ways to get Hope, and he is still an obsessed psycho? 🙄🙄
And please don't tell me about the CPS call because that has nothing to do with Hope and everything to do with his parents.
Here's a novel idea, maybe Hope chose to believe in him because it's those same changes I've stated above that she sees in him. She is witnessing him being completely truthful to her about how he feels about her and is showing her that he is committed to being a good father to Douglas. That's why she defends him. Brooke's and Liam's radars are totally off about Thomas where Hope is concerned because he is not being deceitful or obsessed when it comes to how he feels about her.
@Elle to Brooke and Thomas it amounts to the same thing - whether you call it "obsessed" or "upfront about how he feels about her". And why should the difference matter to them? Because there's no mannequin involved? He wants Hope. End of story to them.
Thomas doesn't just want Hope, M. He loves her. And I've yet to see any LF or Thomas non-supporter admit that. And I know I'll never see it because to admit that Thomas genuinely loves Hope will be to admit that he is not obsessed after all. Love and obsession are 2 different sides of the same coin.
When he spent every living moment planning and scheming how to get Hope's attention, that was him being obsessed. You're not seeing that now. Thomas' focus isn't just on Hope anymore as I've stated before.
I don't have a problem admitting he loves her in his mind, but what difference does this make, especially to her mom and husband? He's trying to get his claws in her, a married woman who has said time and again he can't expect that from her. Whether that makes him obsessed or dishonorable or whatever word anyone wants to choose. I don't even care about the word to qualify him, I'm looking at the behavior which is disturbing.
And why is his behavior disturbing? Thomas is not the first person to try to kiss someone who is married. They've all done it. Ridge, Brooke, Taylor, Hope, Steffy, Katie, Donna, Eric, Carter. Everybody. Thomas has not done a single disturbing thing where Hope is concerned and noone can deny that. He's been on the up and up with her. Very much so.
Nobody is trying to take Douglas away 😅 they want him to come to the home he's known half his life, but nobody is banning or trying to ban Thomas from him. But in the meantime, I don't know if anyone is that invested in that anymore either.
And to most of us his whole behavior like I said is disturbing - in the presence and in the absence of Hope (constant fantasizing etc) so yes we can deny it. You probably won't see anything short of him kidnapping her as disturbing but I do.
Unless he’s 4 yrs old he hasn’t lived half his life with Hope! He literally lived 2 yrs with Hope and it was always understood that when Thomas got himself sorted Douglas would go home. Hope just forgot that part. She has no legal standing to demand he live with her full time which is what she’s been doing for 2 yrs.
And nobody is demanding he live full time, like I said. And in such a young child's life even 1 year is more than significant especially when it has been the most stable year of his life. 2 is forever to him.
When threats are made to call CPS, you bet they're trying to take Douglas away. Even though Douglas has told Liam he wants to stay with his dad, Liam is still encouraging Hope to bring Douglas back to the cabin because he thinks Thomas is back to his old ways. Of course they want to take Douglas away from Thomas.
Thomas' past behavior is what I will call disturbing. His fantasizing about Hope is not disturbing, everybody has daydreams at some point or the other, of things and people they want in their life. Even Thomas has said that he needs to stop thinking of her because she's married.
When I see Thomas start obsessing over Hope again like he used to before, where every living moment he was trying to come up with ways to be with her, then I will say he is disturbed. However, he has done nothing of the sort so far.
This is not about "everybody" though. When it's fantasizing about the object of your "past" obsession, that would give any good psychiatrist/psychologist a pause. They would also be more than concerned about the inordinate amount of time they spend with the object of "past" obsession. That is, of course, the case if the person was properly treated which he wasn't, so no wonder.
Isn't that the other way around though? In that his obsession is spending time with him? Hope is the one who invited Thomas to be a part of her team then put him as lead designer for her line. Hope is the one happily skipping over to Eric's everyday (and night) to spend time with Douglas (she doesn't have to do that). Hope is the one eyeing Thomas and heaping praises on him all the time. I wonder what a psychologist would have to say about that? Brooke sees it. Liam also sees it and they are both concerned about it.
Elle, I agree, Thomas has always loved Hope, and never denied it.. Hopes line would have gone down the gurgles if it want for Thomas, and she knows that.. Thomas has done nothing substantial up to this point to say he is psycho or evil and back to his old ways.. I maintain that trying to kiss a married person is nothing out of the ordinary, and Brooke is the worst for that behaviour.. The mannequin incedent, I think was a ruse for the viewers.. until it is shown that he was responsible, I take it as he was not.. Thomas had a brain tumour when mannequingate happened, and I honestly don’t think he would risk all the progress he has made with Hope by doing that.. And the cps call, many people have done way worse.. was it wrong, absolutely, and I hate that it happened, but I don’t think that qualifies for psycho or evil or back to what he was before.. When you consider the manipulations many other characters, that are also Logan fans favourites, then it unfair to say that he hasn’t changed based on that.. I think he was just over Brookes attacks and wanted to get her out of his life, and saw the opportunity to reunite his parents as a bonus.. The kiss I think was a heat of the moment and emotions running high.. He has pulled himself up when he has thought of Hopd in any romantic way.. As Elle pointed out, who doesn’t daydream of someone they live but can’t have.. Bbfan, is also right, I don’t think the expectation was that Douglas living with Hope and Liam for the rest of his life.. Hope would have known this day would come, but if was sooner than she expected.. I think Thomas acted to quickly and it should have allowed Hope time to adjust, by having Douglas half and half for a while till they both adjusted..
@Elle if alcohol keeps pursuing an alcoholic, it's up to the alcoholic to stay away, not up to alcohol 😅 joking aside, if one has the history of Thomas and sees the behavior creeping in again, if he was treated properly, he would have the toolset to recognize it and stop it, seek therapy to work through it and not go with it, fantasize about it and try to kiss the object. He was not so it's no wonder he doesn't have it, but it's not too late. Let's see what else the rascal pulls off 😅 you know I'm always excited about his shenanigans (as long as they don't result in anyone ending up in hospital, thinking their baby was dead or worse) and I'm positive that for good tv's sake there will be more of them.
Funny analogy, Milla. So is Thomas the alcohol and Hope the alcoholic or the other way around? 😅😅
The thing is, I am not seeing any historical behaviour creeping in again where Thomas is concerned. The CPS call, in my opinion, is a reaction to Brooke's badgering of Thomas. People react to another person's bad intentions/threats all the time. This is not something out of the ordinary. To say that it is a sign that Thomas' past behavior is creeping in again is unfair since, after his surgery, we have not seen any of the obsessive or disturbing behaviour that Thomas displayed in the past. This is a one-off incident. He has been completely honest with Hope, he has been focusing on being a good father to Douglas and he is spending time with his family - all of this, independent of any Hope fixation like before.
It's similar to FFs saying that because of Brooke's past whorish behaviour, she will always be a whore when the truth is, we have not seen that behavior from her for quite some time (except for a kiss here and there). As such, the LFs opinion is that Brooke has changed. Regarding Thomas, we have not seen any psychotic behaviour from him for the past 2 years. Now, all of a sudden, because he called CPS pretending to be Brooke, he is displaying past disturbing tendencies? So Brooke's behaviour in walking into Thomas' home, unprovoked, and threatening to take Douglas away is not in question at all? Conveniently leaving out the fact that Thomas was peeling an apple and not "playing" with a knife, as she put it, is not one bit questionable as to why she would want to portray Thomas in that light? As for Hope, none of her actions in leading Thomas on knowing 1) how he feels about her and 2) knowing that he had a past obsession, is questionable? Her spending all this time with Thomas both at work and at his home rather than with her husband is not cause for question or even speculation about her feelings for Thomas? Her heaping praises on him every time she can does not seem out of sorts? I guess it's easier to just blame Thomas because of his past rather than objectively look at the situation for what it is.
Milla, you know how much I love Thomas so I, too, am excited to see more of him on the frontline.
Ahahah Hope is the alcohol, FC is the liquor store and Thomas is the recovering alcoholic. It will always be there but he shouldn't be tempted. (I know that's the worst analogy ever knowing how both Brooke and Taylor are around alcohol all the time 🙈🙈)
Actually I don't relate the CPS incident to Hope at all, I think this is sepaeate Brooke hate (or "protecting his family" as you kids like to put it). But it's obvious he's after Hope and I think I mentioned, to me it doesn't matter if it's clinical, if there's a mannequin involved, when I see him fantasizing and attempting kiss, I believe he's after her. And it will escalate in some way, there's no doubt in my mind. Whether he does something like kidnapping or setting her up by use of voice app so that sth happens and Liam hears... He is about to do sth - evil, obsessed, disohorable, malicious - to me it doesn't matter, important thing is it will be spectacular 😀😀
Ridge is such an imbecile! He's lamenting to Thomas that Brooke didn't "come clean" yet he hadn't asked her directly whether she rang CPS or not. He didn't give her the opportunity to even deny the allegation. Reality check Ridge - grown adults thrash things out, they argue, they communicate and discuss issues!! SMDH. Ridge clearly expects Brooke to read his mind and intuitively guess precisely why their marriage is crumbling to pieces even though they both still care for each other deeply. I hope Ridge discovers what his evil son did and comes grovelling back to Brooke
That would serve him right, but Brooke is still in love with him so I'm sure she would welcome him back with open arms. It strikes me as odd though, that when the infamous call to CPS came to light I dont recall anyone seemed particularly bothered about who actually made the call. I would have expected Brooke and Hope to speculate who it was and piece together Thomas's betrayal.
@ zestforlife i think liam will have a bug part on the investigation he likes that roll 😂😂 I agree with you about brook welcoming the waffler back But i hope she will remember how he easily give up on thier marriage without giving her the real reason which she begged for big time At least she should gave him a hard time before get back together I can’t wait to see the look on steffy ho face and how now she will still say mom is the love of your life dad 😂😂😂
IKR? Totally agree with you @Mmysh. Would love to see smug Steffy's expression when her brothers actions come to light and Daddy starts second guessing his knee jerk marriage anullment
@zestforlife steffy the biggest hypocrite I remember her whike bashing brook in the gossip meeting with mommy dear saying that brook kissed deacon not because of she was tricked to drink As her opinion brook was going to kiss him anyway It just reminded me about the time she slept with liam and cheated on finn the wuss She said it was because they drink so much alcohol So the alcohol excuse only applies to her Such hypocrite 😂😂😂
@Mmysh yes I remember Steffy critisising Brooke for the drunken kiss as though she hasn't made shameful mistakes in her life! Unfortunately I wasn't watching B&B at the time she slept with Liam so I missed those episodes sadly. Steffy has really changed though - I remember she used to be quite humble but she has developed a bitter , mean streak of late just like her warped brother Thomas
@ hilary thanks dear, it good to have you too, b&b is the only soap i watch and i watched since day one I know most of the history So glad to be on this blog I can finally discuss the series with someone 😂😂
@ zesetforlife yes i remember steffy and brook used to have a good relationship in the past, brook practically helped raising them But of course that changed when Taylor get back Even the last time brook and ridge got married brook asked steffy to be her maid of honor instead of her sister or hope who was just recasted but steffy couldn’t because at that time she was facing issues in her marriage Even Thomas she was so supportive of him especially with the taboo line Even his father was against it But but then thomas lied about sleeping with her in the island upon his grandma manipulation So brook doesn’t hate ridge’s children Although she has every right to do so
@ Hilary Thank you !! It's great to read others perspective and insights of the show, especially since @ Mmysh has watched the soap longer than I have it seems!!
None of Steffy's indiscretions will be mentioned on this show, only Brooke's, that's why I'm glad you guys know and share them. I've repeated (until blue in the face) that if it wasn't all the hate on Brooke mixed with hypocrisy about their own mistakes, we wouldn't jump and react with bringing up all their disgusting behavior in return.
I will always remember Ridge (RM) speech to Taylor when she admitted about James - it's one of the few speeches I've heard on the show calling out hypocrisy and I wish we would hear sth similar now. It was harsh but very powerful.
@milla exactly I really hate the hypocrisy more than thomas and steffy 😂😂😂 I remember when the period if someone refers to liam as father figure to Douglas and of the steffy fans was bashing them so hard But then when finn came back from the dead and Taylor said it in the exact words referring to kelly as his kid They said sure kelly and finn are close and she can call him dad That was so f funny
@Mmysh and @Zestforlife Just a heads up that we are not supposed to bring up past events here when speaking of current storylines. It's not an actual rule of the blog, just that it's frowned upon by other posters.
That hypocrisy goes both ways, for example, Ridge being a Marone even though he was raised by Eric from the time he was born but there is no issue with Zende being a Forrester. Or Taylor being a slut because she is shacking up with a married Ridge even though Donna had been sleeping with Eric for months while he was still married to and living with Quinn. Lots of hypocrisy to go around in these parts.
@elle 😂😂😂 where did you see me cheering for donna to cheat with eric actually she didn’t cheat on anyone But still what she did is absolutely wrong coz any woman shouldn’t go after a married man or even in a relationship with another woman Coz karma will hit her and another woman will come and docthe same to her And that goes fro brook steffy Taylor hope etc Its a principle for me But i guess this is how soaps go So no sweetie i don’t do hypocrisy And yes brook overreacted over the knife thing but for me she is not wrong coz i will not allow anyone to use a sharp knife in front of my kid that way none the less i do it myself So thomas was irresponsible And ridge is eric’s son for all means But when someone come and say hope is not Douglas’s so that’s a total hypocrisy Parenthood is not only about blood So a heads up when someone bash a character while adoring another which is worse and keeps a blind eye to the character they like or fine lame excuses we will participate to the discussion Hope you a beautiful lovely day
@Mmysh My comment was a general one and not specific to you.
I never said that you cheered for Donna to cheat with Eric. I did not even say that Donna cheated. I said that she slept with Eric while he was married.
Regarding the knife, Thomas is Douglas' father and was showing him how to peel the apple with the knife. Douglas wasn't someone else's child so Thomas was not wrong or irresponsible for taking time out to spend with his son and teach him how to peel the apple.
I think everyone here agrees that Hope is Douglas' mother.
Bashing a character they don't support while turning a blind eye to the character they like is par for the course in a forum such as this. Noone should be calling out anyone where that is concerned.
Welcome back to the blog. ☺️ I used to see you posting here in the earlier days when there weren't much of us here. Then you disappeared.
Thanks for the nice way of discussing When you mentioned my name i thought these words about doona meant fir me So sorry for miss understanding Yeah i used to comment long time ago but then suddenly i couldn’t But read most of the comments everyday Thomas being Douglas’s father doesn’t make him right in these specific incident In my opinion of course Kids at thus age should not be taught that using such knife or any knife is ok He is still young to know how to deal with sharp things Especially a pocket knife usually its sharper than the kitchen knife Thats why there is a especial knifes for use in this age for kids So yeah he was irresponsible And if something bad for example to Douglas while trying to use a knife it on his father coz kids should be afraid of knife and don’t attempt to use them while they are that young
I agree but to be fair, when that incident happened with the knife, it was with the older Douglas before he was switched back to the current, much younger cutie. 😉
By the way, Elle, people (=me) jump at bringing up the past when it's whataboutism as in: Thomas is doing x, y and z. And the answer is: what about when Brooke faked a miscarriage (35 years ago)? Then I'm like omg 🤦🏻♀️ alright already and what does this have to do with a. This character b. Current times?
If we were watching the episodes together that I'm watching now - when Steffy became pregnant after Liam cheated with her and Hope was calling her a homewrecker and you said "wtf?! Do you forget how you came together with Liam and became pregnant?", then I'd say "absolutely valid". It's when it's comparing apples and (very stale) oranges that miffs me 😂
@elle i agree all kids are cuties and a gift (brook always say that when she heard someone in pregnant i love this comment from her coz that’s how i see kids a blessing gift) Yeah the Douglas in that scene was looking older but still he supposed to be 8 or 9 max
Milla, personally, I don't like delving into the past much because I simply don't remember everything that happened back then however, the past is still very relevant to today because of all the dirt that was done back then by people who make it their mission to go after other people today. Using Brooke and Thomas as an example, before Thomas was even born, Brooke had been wreaking havoc in people's lives. She was a whore, she had mental issues and she tried to shoot Stephanie. Years later, she is now standing in judgment of Thomas as if she's squeaky clean. Brooke forgets where she came from and has no moral fortitude to judge anyone. Similarly with other characters although you don't see other characters being self-righteous and judgmental as Brooke. You may not like it but it is what it is.
Sorry elle but its not cool or humanly calling brook out or try to shame her for coming from a humble family Its not a plus having money or being rich doesn’t make someone a superior And the SFtv is so racist for me She can call her slut but she can’t shame her about where she came from Brook shouldn’t not judge people when they do the same things she did But that’s has nothing to do with she shouldn’t forget where she came from Even though i don’t seeing her judging anyone these days Indeed she is weak she should be calling steffy’s out for all her mistakes and show her what a hypocrite she is
You don't like delving into the past and yet every day I see walls and walls of rants (less from you, more from others) of Brooke and Hope past. Everything that anyone does and we comment, you throw Brooke's past. It's irrelevant, tiresome and takes inordinate amounts of space here.
And are you seriously telling me nobody, nobody is being more "self-righteous and judgmental as Brooke" 😂😂😂 doesn't a certain young Queen Biatch who can't stop heaping hate, forgetting her own checkered past, come to mind? You may not like it but it is what it is.
Elle. Glad you brought that up. We can't bring up past facts or personally socialize, so I've been told before. I've missed the show all week but catch up reading the blog. And all of a sudden it's totally changed. I don't want to hear the past 20 yrs facts. I'm living in the present and just interested in what's happening now.
Steffy took tonnes of abuse from both Brooke and Hope and Logan Sisters!!! They still throw it in her face! Again I never hear Steffy retaliate by saying all the nasty things they did. Hope cheated with multiple times with Liam but it’s only Steffy and Taylor being called sluts for the same behaviour that is just peachy for Logans.
Donna actually did cheat on Eric while they were married, with Owen! He was young and hot and her “honey bear” wasn’t keeping up with her libido! She wanted Eric’s money!
Nobody can compare to Steffy when it comes to judgment, especially to Brooke. In every episode she goes on and on (not even accurately but usually through her hat how "Mom would never..." when she either doesn't know or is pretending not to know "mom's" list of conquests). Brooke is bringing up very real, often criminal (with intent) things that Thomas has done to Hope and Liam in order to protect them.
@ milla yeah it so funny that every example she brings up her mother absolutely did it 😂😂😂 I don’t know how brook or hope they don’t just throw Taylor’s past or her’s for that matter in her face
Mmysh I think it again has to do with the changed actress. That's what I miss most about HT playing Taylor - all the history and chemistry with Brooke. They hated each other with such juicy passion, would bounce each other's pasts off each other so wonderfully it was a blast to watch... Ah 🥰😅
Milla, one thing I believe that is the difference between Brooks and Taylor, is that Brooke most often than not, came between people who were married or in committed relationships, however, and I may be wrong??, but Taylor didn’t break up any married, committed families, whereas Brooks had no issues doing that.. She has torn apart many many married and or families and relationships.. Although Taylor may now be with Ridge while he is married/was married to Ridge is very wrong, and I have said it before, she should have waited till Ridge was divorced, then came to her, but prior to this, that was not usually Taylor’s MO, it was Brookes.. And I am talking about Taylor, not what her kids have done.. Taylor has been with many men also, but she has not, generally gone after anyone who was committed.. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me, as I don’t seem to have as good a memory as others on here..
Milla, you say nobody can compare to Steffy when it comes to judging on past behaviour, and I respect that opinion, but I believe Brooke is the worst for that.. but that’s my opinion.. Just because Steffy has the guts to say it to Brooke and everyone else, Brooke bitches to others behind peoples back.. but either way, the point is they both do it..
@Colly you're not wrong about Taylor, she didn't (as far as I know) interfere in other people's relationships. But when Steffy is judging Brooke, she's not coming from the standpoint of whose relationship she "broke" (as if anyone can end the relationship for a couple, besides the people in it, but that's a different topic), unless it was Taylor's. She's coming from the perspective of 1. how many and which men 2. how Brooke "betrayed" Ridge with them. As if she was seeking to kiss Deacon and wasn't drugged/drunk by Sheila. She just blindly judges her for the sake of it. Brooke, like I said, is bringing up deliberately malicious acts, to which her promiscuity can never rise, not in a million years.
And I'm not saying Brooke hasn't done awful things where men are concerned. I have been astonished myself. All that gets me is that it's always her and no other woman who gets called out on, perpetuating the myth that she's this daytime TV nymph and all other women are victims, innocent or justified in everything they did.
And actually Brooke is from what I've seen always going and confronting everyone face to face, in fact, she'd showing up in their houses even 😂 , so I definitely can't agree she's talking behind their backs. It's Steffy who kept bitching to everyone who would listen (even if they didn't want, they still had to 😅) how terrible Brooke is. She never went to her house 😅
@Milla I take it the bitch you are referring to is Steffy.
Steffy is supporting her family being together by calling Brooke out on how she has contributed to her family being torn apart. That's not being self-righteous because Brooke did, in fact, try to come between Ridge and Taylor on numerous occasions and went to lengths to ensure she had and kept Ridge. Steffy has not tried to come between a family for her own selfish reasons. Yes, I know, I know.... Aspen... sigh. However, Hope had broken off her engagement to Liam so he was single and free to be wtih Steffy, which he did.
Steffy fighting to protect her family from Sheila because of all that Sheila has done to them is not being self-righteous, it's being wise. Who wouldn't want to protect their family from the likes of Sheila? And even though Brooke is not a part of her family, Steffy stood up for Brooke against Sheila and told her that she was going to let Brooke know about Sheila's part in Brooke falling off the wagon. Steffy hasn't committed the plethora of crimes that Sheila has.
Brooke, otoh, walks into Taylor's office to accuse her of trying to come between her and Ridge as though she has not done the same and telling Taylor "I would not allow it." She berates Steffy for encouraging her father to go back to her mom when she has actively sought to get Douglas away from Thomas and wants to do it again. Brooke cannot play the high and mighty card for her marriage and family when she has done way worse to others.
@Elle I don't know why we added Sheila to the mix 😅 nobody argues Steffy protected her family of Sheila and nobody is comparing her to Sheila. And like Colly said, you can see Steffy as the lesser hypocrite, I see her as the biggest one - where Brooke is concerned. Whatever happened in Ridge and Taylor's marriage was because of the two of them, it was his decision to leave her after she confessed about James and to keep leaving her. It's just so much easier for Steffy to hate Brooke and blindly pull all kinds of unrelated men and events to feed her agenda.
Lol Milla. I added Sheila to the mix because Steffy was called a bitch during that storyline as well, particularly when she confronted Sheila in the alley, for some of the things she said to Sheila. Also, because of the way it was felt she was treating her husband in her not wanting him to have a relationship with his mother.
As for Ridge. He did end things with Taylor after the James reveal however, that does not mean that Brooke is magically absolved from all that she did in interfering with Steffy's parent's marriage. And that is the whole point. Brooke interfered time and time again in Ridge's and Taylor's marriage, faked a pregnancy then a miscarriage, lied about being pregnant with Eric's child, hid the fact that Taylor was pregnant with Thomas and also hid the fact that Taylor was alive. She even paid Taylor a visit and told her it was best that she stayed dead because she finally had Ridge and they were trying to make a life together. She knew full well that Taylor being alive meant that she and Ridge were still married.
Steffy hasn't done any of those things to come between any married couple just to get the man so she can indeed, call Brooke out on those things and it does not make her self-righteous because, as I said before, Steffy hasn't done any of those things.
Gosh none of that would matter if Ridge wanted to stay with Taylor, on the contrary, why wasn't he put off by it? And if I read one more time about the faked miscarriage and the hidden Thomas I'll lose it 🤦🏻♀️🙈🤦🏻♀️😂 seriously it's all you people repeat, it's becoming a running gag. 35 years ago, Thomas doesn't even know he's been hidden and neither does Steffy 🤣. And it's up to his MOTHER to tell Ridge, not up to Brooke. Again Brooke is the overlord who everyone turns to for everything that has ever happened anywhere 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
And Steffy has never "called out Brooke on any of those things" because she doesn't know most of it and because it has nothing to do with her. Like I said, she's just bitching around, talking out of her ass "Brooke was with so many meeeeeen waaa" and "she betrayed you with your brother waaa" 😂 that's what Queen B does and that's not defending that's plain and simple whining. Still don't get the point about Sheila but I never blamed anyone (except Deacon) for anything related to her 😂
All that you list happened waaay before Ridge left Taylor. When she returned it was never the same between them, even without James it would have fallen apart but the hypocrisy of it is what pushed him over the edge and he never ever wanted to commit to her. That's what Queen Baby should know and shut up finally. That's actually the biggest reason (besides him being a tool) I'm glad he's with Taylor now because we are done with the bullshit coming out of Steffy's mouth at every turn.
Milla, Steffy is correct when she says her mother would not hurt Ridge.. Because she has not in the past.. The James thing, was not intentional to hurt Ridge, James was a virgin and thought he was going to die a virgin.. Taylor gave him what was thought to be , his last dying wish.. But from memory, I can’t remember any other time she hurt him or betrayed him with any other man.. So Steffy is just telling the truth, and of course lfans are going to call her a bitch, because they don’t like to hear any home truths about their fave character.. Brooke and Hope have thrown Steffies missdeads in her face, plenty of times, and they have bitched behind her back , plenty of times and they have certainly interfered in her marriages and engagements to Liam, plenty of times.. It’s not so much about whataboutisms, it’s more like the Logan fans struggle with the possibilities that Brooke could be that way.. We certainly are not under any disillusions about Steffy.. We know she has done things that are not acceptable.. But, at the end of the day, Brooke has well and truly earned her title, and if you were watching from day one right through, you would be able to see what we are talking about.. I truly wish you guys have watched from day one, because we don’t always get our facts wrong.. what Elle and Bbfan said , did happen.. Just because it’s in the past , doesn’t make it irrelevant to now.. Steffy is saying that all of Brookes betrayals,lies, manipulations etc, both “past” and “present” has contributed to the failure of her marriage.. And I believe Ridges decision wasn’t solely based on the cps call.. When Brooke went to Aspen to confront him, she asked if it was her most recent oopsies, Bill or Deacon, and Ridges response was it’s all of that.. So that tells me, the cps call was just icing on the cake.. There’s so much talk about how they “always forgive” each other, and they “always work through” their issues, how many times do they have to keep doing that.. The Bill and Deacon kisses have been relatively recent, and no she hasn’t actually bedded anyone recently, but kissing other men while you are married, is a betrayal.. You mention that she kissed deacon because she got drugged, 🤣🤣🤣 she was still coherent when it happened, she was sober enough to stop it.. she said that herself, she let it happen.. She was also the one who encouraged deacon to stay and drink with her, knowing full well Ridge was stuck on a tarmac trying to get home to her, and would not be happy if he walked in on her and deacon drinking together.. She also didn’t go and get changed out of her sexy lingerie, all while sober enough to know better.. But no, Brooke does what Brooke does, all of that was because Brooke chucked a tantrum that Ridge couldn’t get home.. Then lied and manipulated.. and this was recently , not in the past.. Taylor would not have done that to Ridge.. Sheila was just the catalyst.. We FFans get accused of justifying our faves behaviour, well you and others have done the same thing.. Blame Sheila for “drugging” her 🤣🤣🤣
Also, if I remember correctly, Steffy went to Sheila and told her off and how cruel it was to get a known alcoholic to drink, then got shot.. so to say that Steffy is just being a bitch about the deacon kiss is unfair.. Again, Steffy defended Brooks, but also knew what Brooks did was not “all” Sheila’s fault.. so she held Brooke accountable for her part in it, which is everything I just said about it, just above..She was not at a point that she had no self control..
Further more, I have heard Lfan’s “justify” Brookes actions with, kissing Bill and Deacon, and that it was “just a one off incedent”, and “it’s different because she didn’t sleep with them, she only kissed them”, and it’s not the same as sleeping with them, and I even read one fan say, “it happened because she was stressed out because Ridge wasn’t listening to her” 🤣🤣🤣 that one took the cake for “justifications”, but, now the same people are ranting, raving mad because Thomas tried to kiss Hope, so he must be obsessed based on his past behaviour?? 🤦♀️🤦♀️ Well, if that’s going to be the analogy for the Lfan’s, then Brooke must still be a slut based on most of her past behaviour??
And love, as Elle pointed out, her walking into Taylor’s office and telling Taylor, she won’t allow it, well, Taylor had no choice when Brooke did it to her many times over.. and as Elle pointed out, she berates Steffy for being vocal in her parents reunion, but Brooke actively helped Hope come between Steffy and Liam.. And for the record, Steffy only cheated with Liam once.. Hope pretty much every time Steffy was married to Liam!!
Also love, Brooke had no issues, calling out Amber for coming from a humble beginning.. Amber was not good enough for her son Rick, for that very same reason.. So was that humanely or fair to Amber?? I got the rape wrong, but I do remember Brooke thought Amber was gold digging because she came from a humble beginning, just like Brooke.. Perhaps Brooke remembered how in awe she was about the Forresters life style and status, and then did everything in her power to become one of them.. Then ended up with all of them!! But Amber wasn’t good enough??
Colly I'm sorry but I won't read all the rant that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. The topic is Steffy and why she's spewing bullshit. It's true Taylor hasn't hurt Ridge and that's also the tragedy of it all - that in spite of that HE didn't want to be with her. Anything Brooke has done or hasn't done or Steffy believes has done is moot when Ridge doesn't want Taylor. That's what Queen genius can't get through her head. Of course I know she can but it's of course easier to blame Brooke. It's always about Brooke she's the goddess of their reality and this blog's 😅😅
Im sorry but i cant stand it Writers are turning Douglas against his father again!!! So whats the point in the story when we all see the outcome Oh and Brookes son Rick maybe look at his padt deeds
Try to pin it on ridge 😂😂😂😂 How exactly ??? since what happened back then rick was so messed up he did it but he couldn’t remember And ridge took the blame to protect him No one pin it on ridge But then at the trail day rick came to court and admit he did it and cleared ridge‘s name Even though at that point he still didn’t remember but he did confess for phoebe
And it's funny we mention people shooting each other (nobody knows why except to just throw random facts around or to distract of what is going on now, as usual) then this list must include Thomas shooting Rick as well.
@milla and when rick shot grant and brook knew he did it not ridge She was devastated and said it was all her fault and she said to brigett that her way of living her life is wrong and she should stop going back and forth between men needs to stop She admitted she was wrong And her and Eric acknowledged the rick has issues and the bring him the professional help he needs Something nor ridge and Taylor never did
@ elle Yes brook did that after she got the gun gift from Stephanie wrapped and telling her to shot herself What brook did is absolutely wrong and that’s criminal and she should have paid for it But that doesn’t make thomas murdering emma ok or what Taylor did to bill Or what Stephanie did trying to kill brook more than once Chocking her or shot at her in big bear, or chasing her with a knife Or when she was so stupid to tell andy to go to brook and telling him where she hid the house key so he rapped her and then Stephanie the witch mocked her after she got rapped That’s evil But its ok for Stephanie and steffy or Thomas to these stuff but not other characters But sure brook took advantage of the rape incident and use it to get ridge back which also wrong
Brooke was wrong as heck, Mmysh for attempting to shoot Stephanie but I can't help but laugh because the scene itself was so comedic. Brooke was raging mad and really wanted to do away with Stephanie but she missed. Steph was lucky that Brooke wasn't a straight shooter. 😂🤣😅
Listening to Thomas go on and on to Ridge about “what a horrible person Brooke is”, and how she is always “playing the victim”….was infuriating! Just total lies coming from Thomas! It’s bad enough that he framed her, but to go on and on to Ridge like he did - badmouthing her…I just wanted to smack him!! What a disgusting display of garbage spewing from his mouth!! He needs to take a good look in the mirror! Yes, Thomas…Brooke IS the ‘victim’ of your dastardly deed!! Elle, please note : this is the same guy who you maintain couldn’t have put the mannequin behind the curtain. Because after all, Thomas told Hope he was “just as surprised by it as she was!!” 😂😂😂😂. I’m sure Thomas has some ocean front property in Kansas he would like to sell too!!! Lol!! It was ironic when Taylor told Finn…”I’m not sure why he is leaving Brooke exactly, other than wanting to be with me. I just know it’s not because Brooke ‘did something’ this time!” Uh no, that’s exactly why Ridge is reuniting with you, Taylor. It’s because Ridge THINKS Brooke ‘did something.’ I didn’t like the way Hope continued to defend Thomas to Brooke when Hope knows full well Thomas just acted in a very inappropriate way with her the night before. Brooke sat there and told Hope that Thomas is still obsessed with her, and Hope acted like the attempted kiss never even happened! What the hell, Hope??!!!! She could have at least told Brooke that Thomas has been acting a little ‘too friendly’ without actually mentioning the attempted kiss. But nope! Hope acted put-off by Brooke’s comments instead. Ridiculous!!! And Hope owes Liam the truth!! Not happy with Hope’s decisions lately.
@Lynn at least Hope toned down a little the blind defending Thomas, don't you think? Just a few episodes ago she used to almost lash out at Liam, raise voice saying "yes he is changed" bla bla. You're right she's still acting like an idiot who is hiding major things about Thomas and will be sorry, also because she'll have to admit how blind she was, but I think she's getting there. Brooke with the help of someone will uncover the truth, it's coming! 🤩
Btw I'm now watching the mannequin episodes and am utterly terrified 😅 I somehow understand why Elle jumps at Thomas defense (probably) thinking we believe he is becoming exactly like that again. That mannequin is truly the scariest thing I've seen on this show, with the bloody eyes and the "kill Liam" 🙈🙈🙈🙈 it's worse than Sheila in her worst moments. Poor Thomas.
And don't worry, Ridge won't forget all this piling of lies Thomas just did once it's all revealed. It's one thing what he did previously it was centered around Hope and Liam, but he put his Dad through hell this time and I believe that's a first - to do something that directly hurts Ridge. And Hope when she learns he put Douglas in the middle of it, if she's not furious and cuts him off, then she's indeed an idiot plain and simple and should be with him.
@ he did that to ridge before When Thomas and brook had a crash and stucked in some island Fir days Brook ate some kind of berries and she was hallucinating When they get back his grandma used it against brook and promised his her shares in exchange for him to lie and saying brook slept with him Sure ridge left her and went back to Taylor But i give it to thomas He knew it wasn’t right and told the truth by him self Sure steffy blamed him coz ridge went back to brook who was devastated and cried all the time for how she could do this At that time brook and Thomas were close and she was supportive of him with the taboo line But after that their relationship starts to change
@lynn i felt that hope was not defending thomas as much telling her mother its not good to tell your mind But yeah i for sure agree she shouldn’t hide anything from her husband Usually she doesn’t do that
Oh boy yes the berry story 😂 the reason for another botched Tridge reunion. It's hard to keep track of Thomas deeds (deliberate no less) with the line of actors playing him over the years, each of them playing him with an own set of problems. It's also one of the reasons (not a good one though) they don't hold him accountable for the past (with Brooke it's easy, when she's been played by the one and only KKL).
Exactly changing the actor/ actress doesn’t erase the character history But sure that is the case with Taylor and Thomas fans Even steffy is still playing by the same actress but that doesn’t apply to her with her fans 😂😂
@Lynn We actually saw Thomas (in flashbacks) make the CPS call, we did not see him, in flashbacks or otherwise, bring the mannequin. Ergo, it stands to reason that he was telling the truth about the mannequin. Also, we have seen Thomas go to lengths not to lie to or deceive Hope this time around. It's hardly likely he lied about it.
Hope is not saying anything about the kiss because, unlike Brooke and Liam, she does not believe that Thomas is obsessed with her again. She has said to him numerous times that he has changed because that's what she believes. To tell Brooke about the kiss would be admitting that her mother is right and, up to this point, she does not think that Brooke is right. She knows how Thomas feels about her and, in her mind, it's not obsession.
Elle, it’s been as plain as day, that both Brooks and Liam sudden turn on Thomas started , when he wanted to step up and be a father to Douglas.. Brooke has said in her own words that the forresters are using him to “lure” Ridge away.. She also said that they were using him to come between her and Ridge.. Liam is saying the same but it’s Hope is using Douglas for!! Prior to that they had no issues about him for a very very long time.. so I maintain that their concerns are not really for Douglas, or that Thomas hasn’t changed.. we have seen them have no issues till now and seen all this develope.. up till he called cps..
@ Milla, I hope Hope starts to see things even more clearly very soon. In my opinion she still seems too defensive when it comes to Thomas. But you are right that she has dialed it back a bit. I guess I just didn’t expect her to defend him at all after the attempted kiss. After all, she’s gotta know Liam is right about him. Maybe she doesn’t think Thomas is still “obsessed with her.” But the fact that he showers her with compliments, tells her he is “a one woman man and that woman is her”, and tried to kiss her…should definitely tell her that Thomas is most certainly not on the up and up. I just don’t like to see her act so naive. I think she genuinely wants to believe Thomas has changed for Douglas’s sake. And that prevents her from being honest with herself. Hopefully things get so incredibly obvious, that even Hope stops making excuses for him!
@ Elle, Thomas is good at a few things….and lying is one of those things. He lies constantly and has proven to be very good at it. To assume he is not lying about the mannequin would seem to me to be turning a blind eye. But we may never find out because it may not come out. I’m going to assume that the most obvious thing is true, and that would be that he did bring up the mannequin because he is still obsessed with Hope.
Maybe Hope actually liked it and wants more except she can't because she is married to cry baby Liam. She secretly wants Thomas . I would like to see her get with Thomas . And Ridge stay with Taylor . Maybe put a real tail spin on things & have Ridge and Donna hook up or Brooke's other sister
I believe that Hope is starting to fall for Thomas as well. We have seen her defending him, spending a lot of time with him both at the office and at home and we've also seen her eyeing him. Even before the near kiss, after Thomas told her how she made him feel, there was a long pause before he moved in to kiss her. I believe she wanted him to kiss her but only stopped him because she's married and doesn't want to give him any kind of signal until she is sure about herself and what she wants.
Yes, I agree, I believe that Hope is falling for Thomas, and I think it is because she can see how much he loves her, and is devoted her, and he has been so supportive to her in every aspect of her life, personally, professionally, as a mother, a business woman etc.. Where Liam has not been able to support her in any area of her life, not even on the one critical day of her career.. it broke my heart when she pretty much had to beg him to be there for her.. The desperation in her eyes and voice.. Liam really has no one to blame but himself if she pushes him away and towards Thomas.. He could have dealt with all of this very differently, but he chose to make it more about how he feels, than supporting her..
I was waiting for someone to bring up Taylor & Steffy killing Forrester family members & today was the day! I've watched B&B since it came on in March 1987. I can write what happened on the very 1st show--but all the Brooke haters wouldn't like it! Taylor killed Thorne's lovely wife Darla while driving drunk. Darla had stopped to help change a tire for Steffy! This tragedy really decimated Thorne & Darla's daughter. Then yrs later--Thorne was dating Taylor! Steffy killed that poor girl w a rock that she bashed her head in with! Too bad Eric's niece witnessed this & taped it on her phone! Steffy tried several times to shut her up permanently but in the end Eric's niece went back to Australia where she was safe -far from Steffy! Both Taylor & Steffy killed ACTUAL FORRESTERS-not Marone imposters! I am sick to death of these B&B women having "Doormatitis"-- I treat plenty of women who have this "illness". Maybe I should go on B&B so they'd have an actual Dr on there who isn't a joke & is a hot redhead! Always had the hots for Deacon but this crap w Sheila killed that! But Dollar Bill is still appealing as all hell! And I usually date men in their 30's--before they let themselves go! Hey-men have dated younger women forever! Only difference? I'm no one's Sugar Mama! Only men are stupid enough to think you can "buy love" from younger mates! Women are not dumb like that! Ridge needs to be alone until he does some self reflection & realizes he treats women like shite! So--in my estimation--since Ridge is dumber than a box of rocks( my apologies to rocks!)--he'll be alone the rest of his life!
I forgot to thank mmysh for bringing up the murderous history of Steffy! Thanks Lynn for your always inciteful & witty comments too! Also Milla! And anyone else I've forgotten to thank. You guys brighten my day-& I'm sure you brighten other's days on here too! Mmysh-bet you remember when the late great actor Peter Brown played Taylor's psychotic ex husband who came on to make her life a living hell! Too bad he's no longer w us bc it'd be great to revive that storyline! Question--why is Steffy's baby named Hayes? That was Taylor's psychotic ex's last name! Why would you name your child a name that brings(never mentioned so maybe writers have selective amnesia?) back past trauma to her mother? This show needs to either retrain its writers or hire writers who are actually good storytellers!
I've also always wondered about Hayes 😅 the only explanation I have is that Steffy doesn't know her mom's real name, she should have named him Hamilton if she wanted to honor her, this way she's honoring her first marriage with the obsessed guy 😅 Btw thank you as well for showing up and telling things that happened - for the sake of justice but also because many of us don't know them. I for example didn't know Ally's murder was recorded and Steffy tried to cover it up 🙈 I know it was self-defense but the coverup... Poor Thorne, he didn't deserve to have both his wife and daughter killed.
@deborah thank you in return my dear I watched the show since the beginning with my mother And my memory is really good sometimes its a curse 😂😂 Yes steffy was defending her self with ally but the cover up was bad and how she bullied ivy which was wrong of her to stop and filmed instead of helping out But when steffy‘s fans bring un hope pushing thomas in that tank as attempt murder we can consider steffy‘s accident a MURDER then And yeah i remember how sweet and caring darla was Its a shame she’s gone
Mmysh plus Hope didn't even push him, he was heading towards her and she moved sideways so he leaped into that container 😅 she just removed herself as a barrier, the alternative would have been both of them tumbling in the cleaning solution which in this case would have saved her and Brooke a night of terror 😅
@milla exactly You remember thomas once bargained Douglas for one night with her it was when she went for halloween at Eric’s Such a disgusting act his fans keeps forgetting about it So can you blame her he was chasing her around the building locked his son somewhere and try to force himself on her So sure she will defend herself And btw i saw it someone said that brook is so evil she paid someone to rape That did happened at all Actually it was Stephanie who almost did that But she didn’t send andy to rape brook She told him that brook likes him and she is easy going and told him where the hide the key of the house So he went there and refused to take no for an answer so he ended up rapping brook And Stephanie was so mean to mock brook after that which was so mean Of course brook took advantage of the incident and make ridge get back to her Which was also not right on my opinion
Mmysh thank you!!! I've been asking at least three times for proof (episode, year) that Brooke hired someone fo rape another woman (twice!) and never got it. My guess is that she never did anything like that and now you confirm it. What happened TO Brooke was one of the most devastating things I've ever seen on the show and I hated Stephanie for orchestrating it. But as far as I remember Ridge wasn't really over her anyway (when was he ever), so it was natural that he wanted to be there for her and they reuinited.
@milla i don’t wanna be unfair to Stephanie She sure didn’t want or expected this to happen but she was so stupid to give him this information And yeah you are right about ridge Brook will be always the love of his life And i really hate when someone just drop a false information with any proof so if someone new will believe it Forgetting that there is a lot of people watching and you can search for it easily And of course the ignore any demands form others to provide anything to support their claims Its just proving the information is totally wrong
Mmysh I actually am really on a quest to debunk the ugliest lie that has been said about Brooke, even if I have to do it myself and googled Amber's history (because I believe it was mentioned she was the rape victim), and surprise surprise, here's what I find: "Sheila pays off a man named Lance to drug and rape Amber, but when Lance threatens to tell Amber everything that happened, Sheila kills him." Wikihow about that! (Actually it was Wikipedia but it doesn't sound as good 😅) Now I hope I never have to read this ugliness again (not that debunking twisted plots ever stopped anyone from repeating it, but to me is important the Brooke fans read it and know that's not true).
Bravo milla I don’t what people think when they try to fool others with false information to serve their agenda Not cool Its easy for anyone of us to go searching gor it and prove them wrong Or maybe sometimes people got conflicted to adore such characters as Thomas so the fool themselves and try finding excuses or false information about the characters the dislike
Smfh..I can’t believe what I'm reading right now. And not going to comment. It has to sink in a little and maybe I'll understand the whole point of this blog.
Milla, I speak for myself here, not everyone can recall all of history to its every word or exactly how it happened.. It is usually, as simple as some details were forgotten.. But, I don’t believe one “intends” to or intentionally, twist facts or out right lie, or leaves something out, just for their own “agendas”… also , peoples perceptions of how they view it in their own opinion, as Elle pointed out, is not always the same as how someone else views it.. A good example, is you pointed out, you are watching the mannequin storyline atm, and you stated you can understand why Elle defends Thomas’s current state, because it was horrifying for you to see what happened to Thomas during the brain tumour story, and you even said, poor Thomas.. This is just an example.. It’s not always just hating for the sake of hating either.. As Msmyth pointed out about how she felt for Steffy when, she lost her first baby.. I don’t like Brooke for what she did to her daughter and her sister, in my view, you cannot get more selfish, self-centred than that.. And that’s why I dislike her so much, not to mention her breaking up marriages and some families, for her own agenda.. She even admitted to Hope that she came between Ridge and Taylor.. And I don’t believe she has changed, apart from not sleeping with another man in recent years.. But she is still behaving the way she always has, in every other aspect, and that is in my own opinion.. But at the end of the day, everyone has their faves and not so faves, and will defend theirs, not because they have an agenda.. It would be really nice if we could all get along and respect each other , no matter who they support, rather than having a go at each other.. Lately this blog has been unbearable, because of personal attacks on other posters, and I take full responsibility for my own part in that.. However, It’s frustrating for ALL on this blog, to not be able to come here and enjoy each other’s views and have a good debate on a level that is “respectful” to all of us.. we ALL have a responsibility on this blog, to treat each other with respect and each other views.. I hope it can be that way going forward..
@Colly I am totally with you regarding the support and respecting each other and I don't know that I have violated that. Is it because I debunked (by just googling) a very disgusting claim that was never proved but only repeated? I was asking to be proven time and again and this never happened. So I took it upon myself to set the record straight. I don't see a personal attack here. And it's totally okay to forget something - I haven't watched many things at all and even ask you to explain. Elle twice very decently admitted something she believed was one way was actually another. What I am against and was, was this particular very ugly claim against Brooke and very calmly asked to be proven. When that didn't happen but instead I kept seeing it in the same way splashed like it happened, I simply checked, like it was any suspicious piece of news one checks if it's fake. That's not about anyone's views but about what really happened and didn't happen.
No not all love!! I said it to you because you wanted to know what happened that time.. I can say honestly, that I thought it was Brooke who set Amber up to be raped.. And I didn’t bring up in the past to be purposefully deceitful to you or anyone else, and certainly not for my own agenda, it was because my own recollection was ghat it was Brooke.. The point I was making, is ghat not everyone has perfect memories as some do.. And 35 years contains a lot of history.. An example would be when you and msmyth were talking about Hope and Thomas with the vat of acid.. Hope kept quiet, didn’t call for help, told Brooke and they agreed to keep quiet.. Brooke went to the lengths of saying Thomas left Douglas.. That is my recollection.. The fact that she didn’t actually push him, is asinine, in that, the issue, was hiding the fact and not calling for help.. I remembered there was a struggle, but my point was more that she and her mother didn’t come clean about it.. it doesn’t matter ghat it was only a night before Brooks went to tell ridge, as I remembered it and my point was that they hid it.. I didn’t get every detail right, but I also didn’t have an agenda because I didn’t remember every little aspect of it.. Like msmyth said herself, steffy killed Alley in self defence, just like hope did with Thomas, but steffy tried to cover up, well so did Hope and Brooke.. Do u see where I am coming from?? It’s not fair to say people have agendas trying to trick and deceive people for their own agendas.. when that’s not what is happening.. making statements like ghat is what causes trouble on the blog.. not everyone has photographic memories.. and sometimes the way in which people words things too.. it’s how it’s perceived.. it’s not done to intentionally get at someone.. and this what causes issues on the blog, the assumptions.. I have never tried to intentionally deceive anyone.. I responded to you because of your enquire as to what happened, and your agreement to another poster about the so called agendas and deceptions.. This is a fictional show and a blog and it’s getting taken way too seriously where people are having a go at others, and my point was that it really doesn’t have to be that way.. accusations against characters are very different to making them to real people on a blog because they don’t agree or don’t explain things to the standards others expect!! perception on hating on a character is much different to hating on the poster for hating their fave character.. Yes , it’s great to say got didn’t happen like that, but not to assume and say things about other posters characters.. That is what causes the issues on this blog.. and it doesn’t have to be that way..
Also most people can’t remember the day and episode number or even year, when u ask for that.. it’s not easy pinpointing that info in 35 years of a show that airs five days a week.. and especially if you are from another country , and not in the states!! I am in Australia, Bbfan is in another country.. asking for dates, times episode numbers.. I would have trouble finding that info from Australia..
And Milla, this statement above is not directed at you personally love, it’s a general statement.. I am tired of FFans having to defend their integrities on a blog.. it’s rediculous to say the least.. my part in it was not tolerating it done to me.. I have never had to defend myself for anything, especially not how I spell something… I don’t do anything to intentionally cause a problem for someone else, and most people on this blog don’t..
Colly, I didn't even realize it was you who first brought it up, I'm really sorry if I made you feel like I was bashing you or calling you a liar. I just feel very very strongly about the subject of rape (thankfully not due to any personal experience) and would never support a character, especially female, who would facilitate it and that's why I called the claim a disgusting lie. I know you're not deceitful and I respect you plenty. It was important to me to put this particular false statement to bed because it's more meaningful to me, speaks tons to the character of a person to premeditatedly do something like this and me supporting them would speak a lot about me to me. It is incomparable to keeping silent one night in a state of shock and stress and deciding how to help your child.
And believe me even though I am "younger" (than the show itself even 😅) I don't remember most of what happened. That's when something mentioned here sparks my interest I find the episode to watch what happened really and mention it.
Thank you colly for all those nice words Im totally against bashing a real human being for a fictional characters Unless of course they attacked me And for the record even though i hate thomas but i really felt for him during this hematoma period and how he suffered with hallucinations especially the day hope found him and the look on his face before he collapsed I started to kinda let go of my hate for him but than he get back to his old tricks 😂 Why thomas why And as you see me and milla we acknowledged how mistaken brook and hope was in these occasions Without trying to find lame excuses Which i hate with some of us here in the blog Sure anyone is entitled to their opinion And it should be respected but sure we will argue when some try to defend some disgusting behavior and find excuses for it or deny it completely Then bash other characters for the same behavior Thats all what we meant Im sorry also if i bothered anyone That was totally not my intentions And im glad to have some nice ladies to discuss the show with
Ladies, no worries!! 😉 and Milla, I can completely understand your reasons for wanting to know that.. because I wouldn’t want to support someone who would do something like that either.. But for me, Brooke has done plenty other really bad things to earn my dislike of her.. I did initially like her in the beginning, but as time went by and things she did I grew to dislike her.. and of course, there’s not a character on the show who is squeaky clean that’s for sure, but for me , it’s a case of, “pick your poison”!! And there’s reasons we “all bash” characters we don’t like.. To me, I think Thomas is exactly like Taylor described him in that talk she had with Ridge, when he was telling Steffy and Taylor his confessions of how he could have been there for them at that time in their lives when they were little.. Taylor said he was the youngest, and got left behind the most.. I know he has done some questionable things, but the worst of his behaviour was actually due to a brain tumour.. But watching Thomas over the years, he was a good at heart kid, but went through a lot because of how selfish Ridge was.. He missed out on having his mother for years when he was young because she was presumed dead twice, he then watched his father hurt his mother over and over and over again.. That would screw any kid up!! So he’s been through a hell of a lot in his life.. If you watched the whole show Milla, you would understand why us FFans have a big soft spot for him.. @Mmysh, sorry, I have spelling your name wrong, I do apologise!! But that there, brings me to something you said, in regards to if you were attacked by another poster , it would be different, and that is true for me and many Ffan’s.. My spelling mistakes were brought up numerous times for no other reason than to get me to bite, so that’s what I meant by, is having to defend our characters.. Also, regarding your comment that you dislike the way people make excuses for their faves, and the forrester fans have had that thrown at them repeatedly by Lfans, yet in the next breath, they too, make excuses for the bad behaviour Brooks displays, and if it’s really bad , they go silent.. So , really, everyone is guilty of that 🤣🤣🤣 it won’t be the last time it happens.. But, I truly hope going forward, we can all treat this blog as it is, and that is to agree to disagree 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Colly I also have a soft spot for Thomas even without watching the whole show and even though supporting Brooke. When he looks in a certain way, my heart melts and I just wanna grab him and hug him. But what did Taylor mean he's the youngest? He's their oldest child or?
No, he is the youngest, I am pretty sure?? Remember when Ridge and Taylor were talking about how him always leaving them for Brooke had major effects on their kids, she said Steffy became the strong one, Phoebe just wanted love and family, and Thomas was the youngest and affected him the most , because he got left behind..
No I'm sure she meant sth else. Thomas is their first-born. The twins came later. Steffy refers to herself also as his annoying little sister (that's some good self-awareness 😅😂)
Now that I've watched the show I have a question. Why was Ridge dressed like a Donnie Wayne (Miami Vice yrs) wannabe? Not in Ridge's wildest dreams! Have a humdinger of a story about ole Donnie Wayne but it'd probably get pulled! Here's a hint--Donnie was on a talk show where viewers could call in a few yrs ago. I was chomping at the bit bc Donnie said no woman ever turned him down! I know one who did on Sunday July 19th 1993--and I was so "in love" w him from his Miami Vice days! But--I am not a three lettered garden tool so I laughed at him! Btw-his wife (blonde Oscar nominated one-her 2nd marriage to this 3 letter garden tool!) was standing a few feet away! It's a hell of a story! Too bad I couldn't get on that talk show that night! Donnie had wonderful breath. Also- had perfect(his own) white teeth. Wondered how a heavy smoker accomplished that? He was so close to me I could see down his throat! That disgusting thing some men do to test boundaries of women when they first meet them. You know I called him on it. He came after me 3x. Then I told him I was a baseball pitcher & 3 strikes & you're OUT!
Reason I'm up after 4am? Had a "mishap" yesterday at a take out place. They have these GODAWFUL doors at their businesses. Someone usually helps you w their doors--and I've seen big strong men struggle w those doors! I was entering & my left hand got caught in that door. Took an employee awhile to get me free but minus the upper tip of my left ring finger! Luckily there was a med clinic next door bc no way I could drive. One of the employees there went to talk to manager of take out place which the kids there had on the phone. He told her that my injury was not his problem & that he was refusing to pay for my treatment. I knew how serious this was-obviously part of my finger was gone--& I'm a lefty too! I was at that clinic quite some time. Nurse practitioner did her best to TRY to restore SOME of the fleshy part of fingertip but it was hopeless. I was trying to make her feel better by joking. Embarrassed to say that it hurt as much as any of my bone fractures. I guess that business doesn't realize it's far cheaper to pay an injured customer's medical bill than the "alternative!" The operative word will be SUE! Wagyu roast beef! Just a cautionary tale for those who might like Wagyu! Will be talking to most likely the head honcho of the chain on Monday. Always go to the head bc THAT'S the person who can see reason--meaning it'd be bad publicity(the greed factor). The main concern at clinic was there is a very good chance I might lose that ENTIRE finger! I know they weren't just being super cautious bc I'm a Dr & I already knew I'd hear that. The shots wore off about 10 hrs ago. Reiki healing videos didn't help. Going to put on some hilarious movies. May make me forget the pain & prognosis? Only reason I wrote this was to warn you all about this "place". Not looking for sympathy. Dealing w far worse than this finger. Oh-one last question for all the Brooke haters. Ever stop to think she's such a gifted actress that you guys sometimes act like these characters are real & not actors on tv? That's how good she is at her craft! Susan Flannery & KKL were the best of friends in real life. Susan mentioned several times in interviews that KKL deserved an Emmy for being superb but wasn't even nominated! KKL had her own night time tv show for awhile. She played a bounty hunter in the old West & was very good on it. KKL is an expert horse woman in real life. So-Brooke haters--ponder this--how gifted is this actress that you hate her CHARACTER (not her hopefully!) so much? I really do not want to end my life long car racing career bc of this finger problem. Or not be able to do martial arts anymore. Sorry guys. I shouldn't be dwelling on the negative aspects but trying to find the positive in this? Took some time to write all this w/o using left hand. As Evita said-paraphrasing-don't cry for my left finger! Darryl Hannah only has 9 fingers. I think she's done pretty well-LOL-for herself! She's part of the Pritzer (not sure of spelling) family in Chgo. Billionaire family--current Gov of IL is one & actually shares same bday as I do. Not that that matters! I don't know how she lost HER finger but goes to show-even billionaires can't replace a finger! At least it wasn't my most "important" finger-the middle one!
Sorry to hear that my dear hope you get well soon A lot of the things you mentioned im not familiar with since im not American But i totally agree about KKL being such a good actress I saw her once in an episode of family feud with the B&b cast In real life she is a totally different person
Mmysh, KKL is absolutely lovely in person.. I met her when she came to Australia and it weirded me out a bit , because you look at her hear her voice and your thinking Brooks, but she is so very different in real life.. She is a real sweetheart!!
@colly omg exactly my point In the family feud She was silly making jokes Not serious at all Without this deep voice a totally different person so i thought she must be a very good actress And her beauty for age is stunning acutely she doesn’t seems to have any major plastic surgery
She is very pretty for age.. When I met her, my close friend is a stylist to the stars here in Australia, and gess knew I loved the show and invited me along, as I was talking to her I got a bit weirded out , because hearing her and looking at her , in my head I saw and Brooke, but she was very different in person.. Sweet as pie and absolutely nothing like her character!! And that infamous giggle we all know, is just her, it’s not an act 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I really like her IRL, I just can’t stand the character.. But, yes, kudos to her for her talent, that’s for sure, to try and act someone who is the total opposite of who you really are, takes talent!!
Yes love!! Did u not read what I wrote above, I said I like her irl , I just can’t stand her Character 🤣🤣🤣 and I wrote it up further!! I am pretty sure everyone knows I can’t stand her character 🤣🤣🤣 I have been pretty vocal about that!! 🤣🤣🤣
Ok Taylor you got Ridge now you can go back to your own office and stop being that clingy chick ! Hope on the other hand I can't even call naive again , she just straight dumb to believe after Thomas tried to kiss her that he has changed!! She keep constantly leading this man on faithless spending time with him and everyone blame him but hope is to blame for constantly spending time with him knowing he is obsessed with her !!
Okay Miss Brooke doesn't like Thomas, she'll never does. Even though the true come out, what Ridge supposed to do, banished his son ever just to be with a woman 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Okay, Donna, time to go tell your sister, Brooke, all about Douglas fooling you with a phone app that plays other people's voice. And, also how Thomas was so stern with Douglas regarding playing with the app... Hurry, please, we are ready to see the fallout! 😂
ReplyDeleteDonna made such a big deal of Thomas being stern with Douglas about the app. Thomas has told Douglas on numerous occasions about the app and Douglas keeps disobeying him.
DeleteBut yeah, let's get this storyline moving. The reveal has been way too long in coming.
And why didn't Ridge find it suspicious that Thomas was asking him if he told anyone else about the CPS call?
Renee i'm thinking the same as you are that Donna will go to her sister Brooke and tell her how Thomas was acting around his son about the voice changing app and Brooke will probably figure out that Thomas used the voice changing app himself to change his voice to make it sound like she was the one who called CPS.
DeleteDouglas is a cutie but he is being totally disobedient with the app. Donna shouldn’t be encouraging him to disobey his father like that! She is so clueless about children. Even if Thomas hadn’t used the app himself for nefarious purposes, he’s correct in setting boundaries with Douglas.
DeleteHope was spot on with Brooke. Her own attitude is and always has been a problem. She never admits she has anything to do with the breakdown of her relationships.
Again why does she want Ridge? I hate they make the women on the show so dependent on having a man. Turn themselves wrong side out just to placate cheating idiots 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@Elle The reason for Ridge not being suspicious of Thomas I think, is because he is right now believing in his son being a good guy. As you can see Ridge has got the blinders 😎on him in NOT recognizing his son's manipulative games at this moment. My question is, "Who will be the one to expose him?" 🕵️♀️🕵️♀️🕵️♀️
Delete@BBfan101 I agree with you Douglas should be messing around with it because what if Douglas decided to use Brooke's voice on the app, whoever heard it could put 2&2 together and think he was the one to set up Brooke. Thomas is trying to cover his tracks. I ask myself the question why she really wants Ridge? Could it be for his charm (Oh, please! what charm, look how he has treated Taylor through the years), could it be she finds him great in bed? or could it be she loves to pull his strings and control him? 🕵🕵️♀️
DeleteWhy doesn't Thomas just delete the app himself and put some restrictions on Douglas phone?
DeleteBtw I can totally see Donna (the chess gross master that she is 😅) figuring out how to retrieve deleted recordings and bibbidi-bobbidi-boo it all comes to light.
@Milla Lawdie! 😂😂😂
Delete@Milla I think the writers wanted that way, in fact, I read somewhere he is going to use his app once again to make sure Brooke is gone from his father's life for good, but he will get a SHOCK on who finally catches him. So, my bet will be between Ridge, Hope, Taylor, or Steffy, cause I think those are the ones he doesn't want them to find out. Who do you think would shock and expose Thomas?
DeleteElizabeth I'm thinking maybe Steffy, because the writers will want to prolong that storyline, and she is the only one who wouldn't tell on him immediately.
Delete👍😁 Is the truth FINALLY going to come out about the call?
DeleteOr, if the writers are sending Thomas back down the same road, I bet it might be Douglas!! What will Thomas do then??
DeleteHe keeps getting upset at Douglas for using it, so maybe Douglas sees him using it, but I wish they would just move this along!
DeleteI hope by the time Ridge finds out that Brooke has made a bedmate out of Liam, Bill, or Deacon and he leaves Taylor before he knows and he loses both. 😂😂😂
DeleteYes Antiquesandmore I also hope that happens!
DeleteHypocrite Taylor speaking about brook like she is any better, like she never did anything to hurt brook even stole medical reports just to hurt brook even ridge was not in the picture
ReplyDeleteOf course brook was so horrible at that time slept with bill which was wrong
But Taylor is no better
She slept with more men including all the males in brook’s family except for RJ
She used to pick up random men in bars while drunk and sleep with them since she is also an alcoholic
So how she thinks she is better
Brook never attempted to kill anyone at least
Brooke shoved Thomas over the cliff and left him to die and lied to police!!
DeleteBbfan 😂😂😂
DeleteReally you compare a mother seeing her daughter been grabbing by a psychopath murderer like this and not try to protect her
And she was pushing him away from hope and he fail down
It was an accident
So according to your logic we can consider steffy protecting herself against aly a murder since aly died
I wonder if you see your daughter in such situation what would you do
May god bless your children
And like steffy lied to the police and her uncle back then 😂😂😂
DeleteMmysh👍👍
Delete@ hilary I hope there is a like button like FP and all the reactions buttons it makes it easier
DeleteThat would be nice 🙂
Delete@Mmysh thank you. I'm so done correcting the twisting of facts that happens around here and so glad when someone (especially new 🤗) does it. Brooke didn't "shove" Thomas, she pushed him away from Hope to protect her and he lost balance and fell. Every criminal/evil thing Thomas has done was deliberate.
Delete@ milla thank you in return
DeleteEven when they were in the hospital and brook said to ridge that he was hurting hope (thats what she thought)
Hope has the decency to tell the truth that he wasn’t
Something steffy will never do
Of course brook so afraid of the police
Any sane person will be
But it wasn’t intentional
And im not new
Actually i couldn’t comment before it was really bad especially when i see someone try to manipulate the events
But then i fixed the issue in my phone 😀
I have to watch the episode of the cliff pushing again, because I also have a problem with the "left him to die" part, I'm betting that didn't happen - they can't have just run off the scene.
Delete@Mmysh glad you can comment 🤗🤗
😂😂😂 since she and hope and ridge was there i don’t know how exactly she left him to die 😂😂😂
DeleteAnd yeah hun you can watch it easily now on youtube
The official channel of B&b just downloaded it recently
Ah yes I'm watching exactly there so many episodes they upload. I've been keeping up on that storyline and just now finally watched that episode so many people bring up - Steffy and Liam sleeping together after Mannequingate, episode 8409. And so glad to be able to say that:
Delete1. Liam was not begging for Steffy to take him back, not by a long shot. He simply said (in his drunken frenzy): "So glad you didn't take down this picture [of the two of them]. It's a symbol of what was and what could still be." That's all it took for Steffy to start making out with him. And speaking of...
2. She didn't beg him to go home. She said twice "You should go home and talk to Hope" but just sat there, drank with him and started kissing him first chance.
I even watched the episode from the morning after to be sure if Liam didn't then, clear-headed, say he wants to be taken back. Not at all. Said he should have slept at the office.
Only making that clear because I've seen a lot of twisting the plot here how innocent Steffy was and begged him to go home (and yet still threw him a mercy F) and how Liam was the one begging her to take him back 😅😂
Milla, did you miss the part where Liam asked Steffy how serious she and Finn were?
DeleteWhen a man tells his ex about things could still be the way it was before together with asking her how things are with her current beau, it indicates to me that he wants another chance at a relationship with his ex. Liam had just gotten there and hadn't been drinking that long so he was still pretty lucid. Now maybe he said those things out of hurt and anger at what he thought Hope did - I'll give him that - but it certainly wasn't because he had too much too drink.
Similarly, with Brooke. She pushed Thomas, he fell off the cliff, she knew he fell, but did she try to make it right by way of calling for help? No, she didn't. She left him there. The least she could have done was call Ridge or someone.
DeleteAs regards the "twisting of facts," (not necessarily facts since its all fiction) people have different views of what happens on the show based on who they support. The LFs, for example, will never say that Brooke overreacted to Thomas peeling an apple with his pocket knife even though those "facts" were very plain to see. He was peeling an apple. Everyone does it.
@Elle I didn't miss the part where he asked but not sure why that matters? 😅 It doesn't show any bigger interest in a future with her with or without the question. Especially on the next morning when they talked it went like this:
DeleteShe: what do you think about what happened?
Him: what do you think?
Her: I asked you first.
Him: I'm committed to Hope, you have a boyfriend.
Her:... Right.
So not much difference that question. And he spent (so far I've seen) three episodes convincing everyone possible Hope is all he wants. So please 😅
And Brooke and Hope really didn't call anyone but they left Thomas to die? Who found him and when, how did they know where to look? How did he survive? I have to rewatch that because it's a bit hard to believe.
DeleteOkay I watched the episode... Are you kidding me?! Ridge was there, they all ran down to Thomas and called 911. What do you people mean left him to die? 😅
DeleteExactly like Mmysh said btw, forgot to add, and thank you and your memory dear.
Delete@milla you better watch the episode
DeleteBut i will tell you what happened
After thoms fail the three of them went down immediately brook ridge and hope
And hope called 911 in her way down
Brook insisted she didn’t push him to the cliff she pushed his away from hope coz as she thought he was hurting her
And the rest i told you before
And she was devastated when hope told her infront of ridge that she (hope) didn’t feel threatened by Thomas or thought he is going to hurt her
At this moment brook was so devastated and felt guilty and sad about how can she do that
Although brook has many flaws but she is so protective and sympathetic person i give her that
What sheila did to her was only because she care and was protecting steffy’s family
I hate the side of brook with all these men and doesn’t have dignity sometimes and hurting the most important people in her life sometimes but also
Brooke has always been protective of others at cost of herself from mean cruel people seeking to hurt people in her life despite her so called many
misdeeds since beginning of B & B.
No thanks of gratitude from others who benefits from her caring protective side even when it benefits people who has always tries to destroyed her
relationship with Ridge and herself personally.
Brooke's heart and kindness in protective
concerns is bigger than most people give her credit for.
Stephanie Douglas Forrester herself had finally saw this protective caring side of Brooke
that reminded her of herself when she had truly
open up towards forgiveness, acceptance and
respect with loving friendship relationship
Fell not fail
DeleteSorry milla i wrote my comment before i saw that you already saw the episode
DeleteIm sorry i bothered you with so much details
@ milla you are most welcome dear anytime ☺️
DeleteNo worries at all Mmysh I'm very happy you're here on the blog 🤗
DeleteAnd I see we share very very similar views about Brooke - I also think she's caring and protective 👌🏼👌🏼 and the men - of course she's been selfish where they are concerned. To me one of the worst even wasn't Deacon (my unpopular opinion is that Bridget had no business marrying him, at 18 no less, he was a scum using her, treated her awfully, even before Brooke and she was so much better off), but the episodes of when she was butting in Nick and Taylor's relationship, they had every right to move on together from Brooke and Ridge and made an amazing couple.
DeleteThanks for the recap, guys. Going by my memory, I only remembered Thomas, Brooke and Hope being there. I did not remember Ridge. When Thomas fell, I remember Brooke taking Hope and leaving. However, based on what y'all are saying, Ridge was there. But this was a scene I wasn't very clear about hence I never got into it much.
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Delete@Elle but I will admit after watching the episode that Brooke's pushing was too hard, not only pushing him away and he didn't just lose balance (because anyone would after that push).
@milla totally agree
DeleteEven hope which maybe theconly character i like
I was so mad in the episodes were she dated wayyat and liam at the same time
It was wrong and im totally against that
There was no excuse especially for hope’s character ark
And when she listened to her mother and slept with liam losing her virginity
Which cased her a Psychological problems led to meds then she started abusing almost caused her death drowning in the poll
Brook was wrong with this advice but she handled it right sending hope to a Psychotherapist to deal with all her issues
Even though steffy was using hope’s principles against her at that time
But hope shouldn’t have give up them even for liam who was really weak and need sex such a loser
I see the flaws of all the characters especially then ones i like
And to be fair i don’t consider my self a brook or logens fan but between them and steffy’s clan sure i prefer them most of the time
And for steffy Even i hate here
DeleteBut i really felt really bad when she lost her first child
I cried with her the actress is brilliant
And when liam walked on her whike pregnant with kelly that was so cruel no pregnant woman should go through this heartache
Or when she got addicted to painkillers because she doesn’t want the pain to keep her from proving the good care for kelly
And even i was totally with hope taking beth that night i can’t deny the pain steffy went through and sympathize with her
She was a mother for beth of course she will resist and heartbroken
Very true, these things I also can't deny and never blindly hated Steffy or Thomas (Taylor I have actually always liked, when it came to her and Brooke I was always enjoying the catfights 😅 so much better writing than now) because they had their good moments, just overall always loved Brooke. Without her to me there is no show.
Delete@ elle no worries dear as long as we are arguing with love ❤️
Delete@ milla yes i agree the push was hard but i don’t blame her as a mother who saw her child getting hurt as she thought
But what matter is her intentions was not killing him or for him to fell and she was remorseful for jumping to that conclusion so fast
I can’t judge her in this particular incident because as a mother probably i will do the same and my common sense will be blocked
But for when hope thought she killed thomas brooks advice was sooo wrong
Even she was protecting hope but was wrong and i was against her in that situation should have agreed with hope and supported her decision to come forward and tell the police
And support her with a good defense at the court
And she should have been more sensitive to her husband
Thomas is still his son
@milla that’s i agree brook is the engine of the show
DeleteTrue Mmysh 🤗🤗
DeleteMmysh, I totally agree with you, as long as we are arguing with love!! Sometimes our memories don’t always serve us well, because we are talking 35 years of history, and it’s ok to be wrong and it’s ok to be corrected, and it’s ok to see it differently to others, but as long as it’s as mates, not enemies.. Your outlook is actually refreshing love!! everyone has different recollections, and views of how things happen as Elle pointed out, it’s really nice to be able to disagree or whatever it may be , as mates!!
Delete@colly Yes sweet lady amen to that
DeleteThe world in these day is ugly enough for us to be fighting here over a fictional characters
We should try at least to make it a place where we can run away from our worries for a while
Thomas is disgusting the psycho murderer can lie like drinking water
ReplyDeleteIm sure if Douglas was playing with any other app and spending all day playing he wouldn’t mind or care but this app he is parenting 😂😂😂 what a joke
And i really like how hope always tell her mother the truth even if she will not gonna like it
Brook needs that from time to time
Talk about satanic evil… this Thomas also looks evil
ReplyDeleteIndeed, and saying she is playing the victim that’s crack me up 😂
DeleteShe is your victim psycho
He can lie so easy with perfection
But i can’t blame him for hating brook she is the only person who can see him for what he truly is
He can’t and couldn’t fool her
She can see right through him
So for a messed up person like him that’s enough reason for hate
Brooke and Liam have the Thomas radar. I'm so glad Hope finally shut up, no longer blindly defending him after what he tried. Interesting if after everything around Thomas unravels, she will also admit there was the creepy mannequin and the attempted kiss. I'd be a bit embarrassed I closed my eyes to that.
Delete@ milla finally she wakes up i hope
Delete@Mmysh True. She won't have a choice when the truth smacks her 😅🙈
DeleteI like hope maybe she is the only one in show i do like
DeleteBut really she was so stupid and naive in the past episodes
And being smacked by truth later it’s totally her fault
I hope when day she will learn
@Milla When it all unravels, I think Hope is going to realize she is NOT as smart as she thinks she is, cause all this time she put her belief into Thomas in one basket, then her💡 will finally start to think back about the mannequin, the kiss, and all about him talking about how she inspired him, mumbo jumbo, to make those special dresses for her for the fashion show, and she may finally come to realization that all this time he was "OBESSED" and she couldn't pick the signal until then, HELLO HOPE, are you there📞 📞! What is sad though is what will Douglas think if his Dad gets arrrested or goes to get some Psycho help like Dr. Phil, and not from his sweet dear mom Taylor.
Delete🤣🤣Elizabeth you crack me up! But everything you say makes sense.
DeleteYes Elizabeth 😂😂😂
DeleteSo let me get this straight. Thomas resorts to trickery, deceit, pretense and using his son, all so he can get Hope and he is an obsessed psycho. Now, there's no trickery or deceit or pretense with Hope. He's 100% upfront with her. He is spending time with his son trying to be a good dad, working and spending time with his family instead of devising ways to get Hope, and he is still an obsessed psycho? 🙄🙄
DeleteAnd please don't tell me about the CPS call because that has nothing to do with Hope and everything to do with his parents.
Here's a novel idea, maybe Hope chose to believe in him because it's those same changes I've stated above that she sees in him. She is witnessing him being completely truthful to her about how he feels about her and is showing her that he is committed to being a good father to Douglas. That's why she defends him. Brooke's and Liam's radars are totally off about Thomas where Hope is concerned because he is not being deceitful or obsessed when it comes to how he feels about her.
@Elle to Brooke and Thomas it amounts to the same thing - whether you call it "obsessed" or "upfront about how he feels about her". And why should the difference matter to them? Because there's no mannequin involved? He wants Hope. End of story to them.
DeleteThomas doesn't just want Hope, M. He loves her. And I've yet to see any LF or Thomas non-supporter admit that. And I know I'll never see it because to admit that Thomas genuinely loves Hope will be to admit that he is not obsessed after all. Love and obsession are 2 different sides of the same coin.
DeleteWhen he spent every living moment planning and scheming how to get Hope's attention, that was him being obsessed. You're not seeing that now. Thomas' focus isn't just on Hope anymore as I've stated before.
I don't have a problem admitting he loves her in his mind, but what difference does this make, especially to her mom and husband? He's trying to get his claws in her, a married woman who has said time and again he can't expect that from her. Whether that makes him obsessed or dishonorable or whatever word anyone wants to choose. I don't even care about the word to qualify him, I'm looking at the behavior which is disturbing.
DeleteIt makes a lot of difference, Milla. They are trying to take Douglas away because Thomas is so-called obsessed.
DeleteAnd why is his behavior disturbing? Thomas is not the first person to try to kiss someone who is married. They've all done it. Ridge, Brooke, Taylor, Hope, Steffy, Katie, Donna, Eric, Carter. Everybody. Thomas has not done a single disturbing thing where Hope is concerned and noone can deny that. He's been on the up and up with her. Very much so.
DeleteNobody is trying to take Douglas away 😅 they want him to come to the home he's known half his life, but nobody is banning or trying to ban Thomas from him. But in the meantime, I don't know if anyone is that invested in that anymore either.
DeleteAnd to most of us his whole behavior like I said is disturbing - in the presence and in the absence of Hope (constant fantasizing etc) so yes we can deny it. You probably won't see anything short of him kidnapping her as disturbing but I do.
Unless he’s 4 yrs old he hasn’t lived half his life with Hope! He literally lived 2 yrs with Hope and it was always understood that when Thomas got himself sorted Douglas would go home. Hope just forgot that part. She has no legal standing to demand he live with her full time which is what she’s been doing for 2 yrs.
DeleteAnd nobody is demanding he live full time, like I said. And in such a young child's life even 1 year is more than significant especially when it has been the most stable year of his life. 2 is forever to him.
DeleteWhen threats are made to call CPS, you bet they're trying to take Douglas away. Even though Douglas has told Liam he wants to stay with his dad, Liam is still encouraging Hope to bring Douglas back to the cabin because he thinks Thomas is back to his old ways. Of course they want to take Douglas away from Thomas.
DeleteThomas' past behavior is what I will call disturbing. His fantasizing about Hope is not disturbing, everybody has daydreams at some point or the other, of things and people they want in their life. Even Thomas has said that he needs to stop thinking of her because she's married.
When I see Thomas start obsessing over Hope again like he used to before, where every living moment he was trying to come up with ways to be with her, then I will say he is disturbed. However, he has done nothing of the sort so far.
This is not about "everybody" though. When it's fantasizing about the object of your "past" obsession, that would give any good psychiatrist/psychologist a pause. They would also be more than concerned about the inordinate amount of time they spend with the object of "past" obsession. That is, of course, the case if the person was properly treated which he wasn't, so no wonder.
DeleteIsn't that the other way around though? In that his obsession is spending time with him? Hope is the one who invited Thomas to be a part of her team then put him as lead designer for her line. Hope is the one happily skipping over to Eric's everyday (and night) to spend time with Douglas (she doesn't have to do that). Hope is the one eyeing Thomas and heaping praises on him all the time. I wonder what a psychologist would have to say about that? Brooke sees it. Liam also sees it and they are both concerned about it.
DeleteSorry elle,, but he begged for so long to be in her team for a while
DeleteElle, I agree, Thomas has always loved Hope, and never denied it.. Hopes line would have gone down the gurgles if it want for Thomas, and she knows that.. Thomas has done nothing substantial up to this point to say he is psycho or evil and back to his old ways.. I maintain that trying to kiss a married person is nothing out of the ordinary, and Brooke is the worst for that behaviour.. The mannequin incedent, I think was a ruse for the viewers.. until it is shown that he was responsible, I take it as he was not.. Thomas had a brain tumour when mannequingate happened, and I honestly don’t think he would risk all the progress he has made with Hope by doing that.. And the cps call, many people have done way worse.. was it wrong, absolutely, and I hate that it happened, but I don’t think that qualifies for psycho or evil or back to what he was before.. When you consider the manipulations many other characters, that are also Logan fans favourites, then it unfair to say that he hasn’t changed based on that.. I think he was just over Brookes attacks and wanted to get her out of his life, and saw the opportunity to reunite his parents as a bonus.. The kiss I think was a heat of the moment and emotions running high.. He has pulled himself up when he has thought of Hopd in any romantic way.. As Elle pointed out, who doesn’t daydream of someone they live but can’t have.. Bbfan, is also right, I don’t think the expectation was that Douglas living with Hope and Liam for the rest of his life.. Hope would have known this day would come, but if was sooner than she expected.. I think Thomas acted to quickly and it should have allowed Hope time to adjust, by having Douglas half and half for a while till they both adjusted..
Delete@Elle if alcohol keeps pursuing an alcoholic, it's up to the alcoholic to stay away, not up to alcohol 😅 joking aside, if one has the history of Thomas and sees the behavior creeping in again, if he was treated properly, he would have the toolset to recognize it and stop it, seek therapy to work through it and not go with it, fantasize about it and try to kiss the object. He was not so it's no wonder he doesn't have it, but it's not too late. Let's see what else the rascal pulls off 😅 you know I'm always excited about his shenanigans (as long as they don't result in anyone ending up in hospital, thinking their baby was dead or worse) and I'm positive that for good tv's sake there will be more of them.
DeleteFunny analogy, Milla. So is Thomas the alcohol and Hope the alcoholic or the other way around? 😅😅
DeleteThe thing is, I am not seeing any historical behaviour creeping in again where Thomas is concerned. The CPS call, in my opinion, is a reaction to Brooke's badgering of Thomas. People react to another person's bad intentions/threats all the time. This is not something out of the ordinary. To say that it is a sign that Thomas' past behavior is creeping in again is unfair since, after his surgery, we have not seen any of the obsessive or disturbing behaviour that Thomas displayed in the past. This is a one-off incident. He has been completely honest with Hope, he has been focusing on being a good father to Douglas and he is spending time with his family - all of this, independent of any Hope fixation like before.
It's similar to FFs saying that because of Brooke's past whorish behaviour, she will always be a whore when the truth is, we have not seen that behavior from her for quite some time (except for a kiss here and there). As such, the LFs opinion is that Brooke has changed. Regarding Thomas, we have not seen any psychotic behaviour from him for the past 2 years. Now, all of a sudden, because he called CPS pretending to be Brooke, he is displaying past disturbing tendencies? So Brooke's behaviour in walking into Thomas' home, unprovoked, and threatening to take Douglas away is not in question at all? Conveniently leaving out the fact that Thomas was peeling an apple and not "playing" with a knife, as she put it, is not one bit questionable as to why she would want to portray Thomas in that light? As for Hope, none of her actions in leading Thomas on knowing 1) how he feels about her and 2) knowing that he had a past obsession, is questionable? Her spending all this time with Thomas both at work and at his home rather than with her husband is not cause for question or even speculation about her feelings for Thomas? Her heaping praises on him every time she can does not seem out of sorts? I guess it's easier to just blame Thomas because of his past rather than objectively look at the situation for what it is.
Milla, you know how much I love Thomas so I, too, am excited to see more of him on the frontline.
Ahahah Hope is the alcohol, FC is the liquor store and Thomas is the recovering alcoholic. It will always be there but he shouldn't be tempted. (I know that's the worst analogy ever knowing how both Brooke and Taylor are around alcohol all the time 🙈🙈)
DeleteActually I don't relate the CPS incident to Hope at all, I think this is sepaeate Brooke hate (or "protecting his family" as you kids like to put it). But it's obvious he's after Hope and I think I mentioned, to me it doesn't matter if it's clinical, if there's a mannequin involved, when I see him fantasizing and attempting kiss, I believe he's after her. And it will escalate in some way, there's no doubt in my mind. Whether he does something like kidnapping or setting her up by use of voice app so that sth happens and Liam hears... He is about to do sth - evil, obsessed, disohorable, malicious - to me it doesn't matter, important thing is it will be spectacular 😀😀
Ridge is such an imbecile! He's lamenting to Thomas that Brooke didn't "come clean" yet he hadn't asked her directly whether she rang CPS or not. He didn't give her the opportunity to even deny the allegation. Reality check Ridge - grown adults thrash things out, they argue, they communicate and discuss issues!! SMDH. Ridge clearly expects Brooke to read his mind and intuitively guess precisely why their marriage is crumbling to pieces even though they both still care for each other deeply. I hope Ridge discovers what his evil son did and comes grovelling back to Brooke
ReplyDeleteBut i hope when he does she will show him the door
DeleteThat would serve him right, but Brooke is still in love with him so I'm sure she would welcome him back with open arms. It strikes me as odd though, that when the infamous call to CPS came to light I dont recall anyone seemed particularly bothered about who actually made the call. I would have expected Brooke and Hope to speculate who it was and piece together Thomas's betrayal.
Delete@ zestforlife i think liam will have a bug part on the investigation he likes that roll 😂😂
DeleteI agree with you about brook welcoming the waffler back
But i hope she will remember how he easily give up on thier marriage without giving her the real reason which she begged for big time
At least she should gave him a hard time before get back together
I can’t wait to see the look on steffy ho face and how now she will still say mom is the love of your life dad 😂😂😂
IKR? Totally agree with you @Mmysh. Would love to see smug Steffy's expression when her brothers actions come to light and Daddy starts second guessing his knee jerk marriage anullment
Delete@zestforlife steffy the biggest hypocrite
DeleteI remember her whike bashing brook in the gossip meeting with mommy dear saying that brook kissed deacon not because of she was tricked to drink
As her opinion brook was going to kiss him anyway
It just reminded me about the time she slept with liam and cheated on finn the wuss
She said it was because they drink so much alcohol
So the alcohol excuse only applies to her
Such hypocrite 😂😂😂
@Mmysh yes I remember Steffy critisising Brooke for the drunken kiss as though she hasn't made shameful mistakes in her life! Unfortunately I wasn't watching B&B at the time she slept with Liam so I missed those episodes sadly. Steffy has really changed though - I remember she used to be quite humble but she has developed a bitter , mean streak of late just like her warped brother Thomas
DeleteZestforlife and Mmysh, y'all are hilarious and spot on!!! So glad you're on the blog!!
Delete@ hilary thanks dear, it good to have you too, b&b is the only soap i watch and i watched since day one
DeleteI know most of the history
So glad to be on this blog
I can finally discuss the series with someone 😂😂
@ zesetforlife yes i remember steffy and brook used to have a good relationship in the past, brook practically helped raising them
DeleteBut of course that changed when Taylor get back
Even the last time brook and ridge got married brook asked steffy to be her maid of honor instead of her sister or hope who was just recasted but steffy couldn’t because at that time she was facing issues in her marriage
Even Thomas she was so supportive of him especially with the taboo line
Even his father was against it
But but then thomas lied about sleeping with her in the island upon his grandma manipulation
So brook doesn’t hate ridge’s children
Although she has every right to do so
@ Hilary Thank you !! It's great to read others perspective and insights of the show, especially since @ Mmysh has watched the soap longer than I have it seems!!
DeleteNone of Steffy's indiscretions will be mentioned on this show, only Brooke's, that's why I'm glad you guys know and share them. I've repeated (until blue in the face) that if it wasn't all the hate on Brooke mixed with hypocrisy about their own mistakes, we wouldn't jump and react with bringing up all their disgusting behavior in return.
DeleteI will always remember Ridge (RM) speech to Taylor when she admitted about James - it's one of the few speeches I've heard on the show calling out hypocrisy and I wish we would hear sth similar now. It was harsh but very powerful.
Delete@milla exactly
DeleteI really hate the hypocrisy more than thomas and steffy 😂😂😂
I remember when the period if someone refers to liam as father figure to Douglas and of the steffy fans was bashing them so hard
But then when finn came back from the dead and Taylor said it in the exact words referring to kelly as his kid
They said sure kelly and finn are close and she can call him dad
That was so f funny
@Mmysh and @Zestforlife Just a heads up that we are not supposed to bring up past events here when speaking of current storylines. It's not an actual rule of the blog, just that it's frowned upon by other posters.
DeleteThat hypocrisy goes both ways, for example, Ridge being a Marone even though he was raised by Eric from the time he was born but there is no issue with Zende being a Forrester. Or Taylor being a slut because she is shacking up with a married Ridge even though Donna had been sleeping with Eric for months while he was still married to and living with Quinn. Lots of hypocrisy to go around in these parts.
@elle
Delete😂😂😂 where did you see me cheering for donna to cheat with eric actually she didn’t cheat on anyone
But still what she did is absolutely wrong coz any woman shouldn’t go after a married man or even in a relationship with another woman
Coz karma will hit her and another woman will come and docthe same to her
And that goes fro brook steffy Taylor hope etc
Its a principle for me
But i guess this is how soaps go
So no sweetie i don’t do hypocrisy
And yes brook overreacted over the knife thing but for me she is not wrong coz i will not allow anyone to use a sharp knife in front of my kid that way none the less i do it myself
So thomas was irresponsible
And ridge is eric’s son for all means
But when someone come and say hope is not Douglas’s so that’s a total hypocrisy
Parenthood is not only about blood
So a heads up when someone bash a character while adoring another which is worse and keeps a blind eye to the character they like or fine lame excuses we will participate to the discussion
Hope you a beautiful lovely day
@Mmysh My comment was a general one and not specific to you.
DeleteI never said that you cheered for Donna to cheat with Eric. I did not even say that Donna cheated. I said that she slept with Eric while he was married.
Regarding the knife, Thomas is Douglas' father and was showing him how to peel the apple with the knife. Douglas wasn't someone else's child so Thomas was not wrong or irresponsible for taking time out to spend with his son and teach him how to peel the apple.
I think everyone here agrees that Hope is Douglas' mother.
Bashing a character they don't support while turning a blind eye to the character they like is par for the course in a forum such as this. Noone should be calling out anyone where that is concerned.
Welcome back to the blog. ☺️ I used to see you posting here in the earlier days when there weren't much of us here. Then you disappeared.
Thanks for the nice way of discussing
DeleteWhen you mentioned my name i thought these words about doona meant fir me
So sorry for miss understanding
Yeah i used to comment long time ago but then suddenly i couldn’t
But read most of the comments everyday
Thomas being Douglas’s father doesn’t make him right in these specific incident
In my opinion of course
Kids at thus age should not be taught that using such knife or any knife is ok
He is still young to know how to deal with sharp things
Especially a pocket knife usually its sharper than the kitchen knife
Thats why there is a especial knifes for use in this age for kids
So yeah he was irresponsible
And if something bad for example to Douglas while trying to use a knife it on his father coz kids should be afraid of knife and don’t attempt to use them while they are that young
I agree but to be fair, when that incident happened with the knife, it was with the older Douglas before he was switched back to the current, much younger cutie. 😉
DeleteBy the way, Elle, people (=me) jump at bringing up the past when it's whataboutism as in: Thomas is doing x, y and z. And the answer is: what about when Brooke faked a miscarriage (35 years ago)? Then I'm like omg 🤦🏻♀️ alright already and what does this have to do with a. This character b. Current times?
DeleteIf we were watching the episodes together that I'm watching now - when Steffy became pregnant after Liam cheated with her and Hope was calling her a homewrecker and you said "wtf?! Do you forget how you came together with Liam and became pregnant?", then I'd say "absolutely valid". It's when it's comparing apples and (very stale) oranges that miffs me 😂
@elle i agree all kids are cuties and a gift (brook always say that when she heard someone in pregnant i love this comment from her coz that’s how i see kids a blessing gift)
DeleteYeah the Douglas in that scene was looking older but still he supposed to be 8 or 9 max
Milla, personally, I don't like delving into the past much because I simply don't remember everything that happened back then however, the past is still very relevant to today because of all the dirt that was done back then by people who make it their mission to go after other people today. Using Brooke and Thomas as an example, before Thomas was even born, Brooke had been wreaking havoc in people's lives. She was a whore, she had mental issues and she tried to shoot Stephanie. Years later, she is now standing in judgment of Thomas as if she's squeaky clean. Brooke forgets where she came from and has no moral fortitude to judge anyone. Similarly with other characters although you don't see other characters being self-righteous and judgmental as Brooke. You may not like it but it is what it is.
DeleteSorry elle but its not cool or humanly calling brook out or try to shame her for coming from a humble family
DeleteIts not a plus having money or being rich doesn’t make someone a superior
And the SFtv is so racist for me
She can call her slut but she can’t shame her about where she came from
Brook shouldn’t not judge people when they do the same things she did
But that’s has nothing to do with she shouldn’t forget where she came from
Even though i don’t seeing her judging anyone these days
Indeed she is weak she should be calling steffy’s out for all her mistakes and show her what a hypocrite she is
You don't like delving into the past and yet every day I see walls and walls of rants (less from you, more from others) of Brooke and Hope past. Everything that anyone does and we comment, you throw Brooke's past. It's irrelevant, tiresome and takes inordinate amounts of space here.
DeleteAnd are you seriously telling me nobody, nobody is being more "self-righteous and judgmental as Brooke" 😂😂😂 doesn't a certain young Queen Biatch who can't stop heaping hate, forgetting her own checkered past, come to mind? You may not like it but it is what it is.
she should be calling steffy’s out for all her mistakes and show her what a hypocrite she is
DeleteThat says it all, spot on. But Brooke has more class than to stoop to the brat's level and compare herself to her.
Yes milla compared to how steffy judge everyone brook is an infant 😂😂😂
DeleteElle. Glad you brought that up. We can't bring up past facts or personally socialize, so I've been told before. I've missed the show all week but catch up reading the blog. And all of a sudden it's totally changed. I don't want to hear the past 20 yrs facts. I'm living in the present and just interested in what's happening now.
DeleteSteffy took tonnes of abuse from both Brooke and Hope and Logan Sisters!!! They still throw it in her face! Again I never hear Steffy retaliate by saying all the nasty things they did. Hope cheated with multiple times with Liam but it’s only Steffy and Taylor being called sluts for the same behaviour that is just peachy for Logans.
DeleteDonna actually did cheat on Eric while they were married, with Owen! He was young and hot and her “honey bear” wasn’t keeping up with her libido! She wanted Eric’s money!
Nobody can compare to Steffy when it comes to judgment, especially to Brooke. In every episode she goes on and on (not even accurately but usually through her hat how "Mom would never..." when she either doesn't know or is pretending not to know "mom's" list of conquests). Brooke is bringing up very real, often criminal (with intent) things that Thomas has done to Hope and Liam in order to protect them.
Delete@ milla yeah it so funny that every example she brings up her mother absolutely did it 😂😂😂
DeleteI don’t know how brook or hope they don’t just throw Taylor’s past or her’s for that matter in her face
Mmysh I think it again has to do with the changed actress. That's what I miss most about HT playing Taylor - all the history and chemistry with Brooke. They hated each other with such juicy passion, would bounce each other's pasts off each other so wonderfully it was a blast to watch... Ah 🥰😅
DeleteYes i agree for me no one can replace the previous actress who played Taylor
DeleteMilla, one thing I believe that is the difference between Brooks and Taylor, is that Brooke most often than not, came between people who were married or in committed relationships, however, and I may be wrong??, but Taylor didn’t break up any married, committed families, whereas Brooks had no issues doing that.. She has torn apart many many married and or families and relationships.. Although Taylor may now be with Ridge while he is married/was married to Ridge is very wrong, and I have said it before, she should have waited till Ridge was divorced, then came to her, but prior to this, that was not usually Taylor’s MO, it was Brookes.. And I am talking about Taylor, not what her kids have done.. Taylor has been with many men also, but she has not, generally gone after anyone who was committed.. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me, as I don’t seem to have as good a memory as others on here..
DeleteMeant married to Brooke
DeleteMilla, you say nobody can compare to Steffy when it comes to judging on past behaviour, and I respect that opinion, but I believe Brooke is the worst for that.. but that’s my opinion.. Just because Steffy has the guts to say it to Brooke and everyone else, Brooke bitches to others behind peoples back.. but either way, the point is they both do it..
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Delete@Colly you're not wrong about Taylor, she didn't (as far as I know) interfere in other people's relationships. But when Steffy is judging Brooke, she's not coming from the standpoint of whose relationship she "broke" (as if anyone can end the relationship for a couple, besides the people in it, but that's a different topic), unless it was Taylor's. She's coming from the perspective of 1. how many and which men 2. how Brooke "betrayed" Ridge with them. As if she was seeking to kiss Deacon and wasn't drugged/drunk by Sheila. She just blindly judges her for the sake of it.
DeleteBrooke, like I said, is bringing up deliberately malicious acts, to which her promiscuity can never rise, not in a million years.
And I'm not saying Brooke hasn't done awful things where men are concerned. I have been astonished myself. All that gets me is that it's always her and no other woman who gets called out on, perpetuating the myth that she's this daytime TV nymph and all other women are victims, innocent or justified in everything they did.
DeleteAnd actually Brooke is from what I've seen always going and confronting everyone face to face, in fact, she'd showing up in their houses even 😂 , so I definitely can't agree she's talking behind their backs. It's Steffy who kept bitching to everyone who would listen (even if they didn't want, they still had to 😅) how terrible Brooke is. She never went to her house 😅
Delete@Milla I take it the bitch you are referring to is Steffy.
DeleteSteffy is supporting her family being together by calling Brooke out on how she has contributed to her family being torn apart. That's not being self-righteous because Brooke did, in fact, try to come between Ridge and Taylor on numerous occasions and went to lengths to ensure she had and kept Ridge. Steffy has not tried to come between a family for her own selfish reasons. Yes, I know, I know.... Aspen... sigh. However, Hope had broken off her engagement to Liam so he was single and free to be wtih Steffy, which he did.
Steffy fighting to protect her family from Sheila because of all that Sheila has done to them is not being self-righteous, it's being wise. Who wouldn't want to protect their family from the likes of Sheila? And even though Brooke is not a part of her family, Steffy stood up for Brooke against Sheila and told her that she was going to let Brooke know about Sheila's part in Brooke falling off the wagon. Steffy hasn't committed the plethora of crimes that Sheila has.
Brooke, otoh, walks into Taylor's office to accuse her of trying to come between her and Ridge as though she has not done the same and telling Taylor "I would not allow it." She berates Steffy for encouraging her father to go back to her mom when she has actively sought to get Douglas away from Thomas and wants to do it again. Brooke cannot play the high and mighty card for her marriage and family when she has done way worse to others.
Milla, Steffy did pay Brooke a visit at her home when she found out about the kiss with Deacon. Brooke did not know that Steffy knew about Deacon.
Delete@Elle I don't know why we added Sheila to the mix 😅 nobody argues Steffy protected her family of Sheila and nobody is comparing her to Sheila. And like Colly said, you can see Steffy as the lesser hypocrite, I see her as the biggest one - where Brooke is concerned. Whatever happened in Ridge and Taylor's marriage was because of the two of them, it was his decision to leave her after she confessed about James and to keep leaving her. It's just so much easier for Steffy to hate Brooke and blindly pull all kinds of unrelated men and events to feed her agenda.
DeleteLol Milla. I added Sheila to the mix because Steffy was called a bitch during that storyline as well, particularly when she confronted Sheila in the alley, for some of the things she said to Sheila. Also, because of the way it was felt she was treating her husband in her not wanting him to have a relationship with his mother.
DeleteAs for Ridge. He did end things with Taylor after the James reveal however, that does not mean that Brooke is magically absolved from all that she did in interfering with Steffy's parent's marriage. And that is the whole point. Brooke interfered time and time again in Ridge's and Taylor's marriage, faked a pregnancy then a miscarriage, lied about being pregnant with Eric's child, hid the fact that Taylor was pregnant with Thomas and also hid the fact that Taylor was alive. She even paid Taylor a visit and told her it was best that she stayed dead because she finally had Ridge and they were trying to make a life together. She knew full well that Taylor being alive meant that she and Ridge were still married.
DeleteSteffy hasn't done any of those things to come between any married couple just to get the man so she can indeed, call Brooke out on those things and it does not make her self-righteous because, as I said before, Steffy hasn't done any of those things.
Gosh none of that would matter if Ridge wanted to stay with Taylor, on the contrary, why wasn't he put off by it? And if I read one more time about the faked miscarriage and the hidden Thomas I'll lose it 🤦🏻♀️🙈🤦🏻♀️😂 seriously it's all you people repeat, it's becoming a running gag. 35 years ago, Thomas doesn't even know he's been hidden and neither does Steffy 🤣. And it's up to his MOTHER to tell Ridge, not up to Brooke. Again Brooke is the overlord who everyone turns to for everything that has ever happened anywhere 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
DeleteAnd Steffy has never "called out Brooke on any of those things" because she doesn't know most of it and because it has nothing to do with her. Like I said, she's just bitching around, talking out of her ass "Brooke was with so many meeeeeen waaa" and "she betrayed you with your brother waaa" 😂 that's what Queen B does and that's not defending that's plain and simple whining.
Still don't get the point about Sheila but I never blamed anyone (except Deacon) for anything related to her 😂
All that you list happened waaay before Ridge left Taylor. When she returned it was never the same between them, even without James it would have fallen apart but the hypocrisy of it is what pushed him over the edge and he never ever wanted to commit to her. That's what Queen Baby should know and shut up finally. That's actually the biggest reason (besides him being a tool) I'm glad he's with Taylor now because we are done with the bullshit coming out of Steffy's mouth at every turn.
DeleteMilla, Steffy is correct when she says her mother would not hurt Ridge.. Because she has not in the past.. The James thing, was not intentional to hurt Ridge, James was a virgin and thought he was going to die a virgin.. Taylor gave him what was thought to be , his last dying wish.. But from memory, I can’t remember any other time she hurt him or betrayed him with any other man.. So Steffy is just telling the truth, and of course lfans are going to call her a bitch, because they don’t like to hear any home truths about their fave character.. Brooke and Hope have thrown Steffies missdeads in her face, plenty of times, and they have bitched behind her back , plenty of times and they have certainly interfered in her marriages and engagements to Liam, plenty of times.. It’s not so much about whataboutisms, it’s more like the Logan fans struggle with the possibilities that Brooke could be that way.. We certainly are not under any disillusions about Steffy.. We know she has done things that are not acceptable.. But, at the end of the day, Brooke has well and truly earned her title, and if you were watching from day one right through, you would be able to see what we are talking about.. I truly wish you guys have watched from day one, because we don’t always get our facts wrong.. what Elle and Bbfan said , did happen.. Just because it’s in the past , doesn’t make it irrelevant to now.. Steffy is saying that all of Brookes betrayals,lies, manipulations etc, both “past” and “present” has contributed to the failure of her marriage.. And I believe Ridges decision wasn’t solely based on the cps call.. When Brooke went to Aspen to confront him, she asked if it was her most recent oopsies, Bill or Deacon, and Ridges response was it’s all of that.. So that tells me, the cps call was just icing on the cake.. There’s so much talk about how they “always forgive” each other, and they “always work through” their issues, how many times do they have to keep doing that.. The Bill and Deacon kisses have been relatively recent, and no she hasn’t actually bedded anyone recently, but kissing other men while you are married, is a betrayal.. You mention that she kissed deacon because she got drugged, 🤣🤣🤣 she was still coherent when it happened, she was sober enough to stop it.. she said that herself, she let it happen.. She was also the one who encouraged deacon to stay and drink with her, knowing full well Ridge was stuck on a tarmac trying to get home to her, and would not be happy if he walked in on her and deacon drinking together.. She also didn’t go and get changed out of her sexy lingerie, all while sober enough to know better.. But no, Brooke does what Brooke does, all of that was because Brooke chucked a tantrum that Ridge couldn’t get home.. Then lied and manipulated.. and this was recently , not in the past.. Taylor would not have done that to Ridge.. Sheila was just the catalyst.. We FFans get accused of justifying our faves behaviour, well you and others have done the same thing.. Blame Sheila for “drugging” her 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteAlso, if I remember correctly, Steffy went to Sheila and told her off and how cruel it was to get a known alcoholic to drink, then got shot.. so to say that Steffy is just being a bitch about the deacon kiss is unfair.. Again, Steffy defended Brooks, but also knew what Brooks did was not “all” Sheila’s fault.. so she held Brooke accountable for her part in it, which is everything I just said about it, just above..She was not at a point that she had no self control..
DeleteFurther more, I have heard Lfan’s “justify” Brookes actions with, kissing Bill and Deacon, and that it was “just a one off incedent”, and “it’s different because she didn’t sleep with them, she only kissed them”, and it’s not the same as sleeping with them, and I even read one fan say, “it happened because she was stressed out because Ridge wasn’t listening to her” 🤣🤣🤣 that one took the cake for “justifications”, but, now the same people are ranting, raving mad because Thomas tried to kiss Hope, so he must be obsessed based on his past behaviour?? 🤦♀️🤦♀️ Well, if that’s going to be the analogy for the Lfan’s, then Brooke must still be a slut based on most of her past behaviour??
DeleteAnd love, as Elle pointed out, her walking into Taylor’s office and telling Taylor, she won’t allow it, well, Taylor had no choice when Brooke did it to her many times over.. and as Elle pointed out, she berates Steffy for being vocal in her parents reunion, but Brooke actively helped Hope come between Steffy and Liam.. And for the record, Steffy only cheated with Liam once.. Hope pretty much every time Steffy was married to Liam!!
DeleteAlso love, Brooke had no issues, calling out Amber for coming from a humble beginning.. Amber was not good enough for her son Rick, for that very same reason.. So was that humanely or fair to Amber?? I got the rape wrong, but I do remember Brooke thought Amber was gold digging because she came from a humble beginning, just like Brooke.. Perhaps Brooke remembered how in awe she was about the Forresters life style and status, and then did everything in her power to become one of them.. Then ended up with all of them!! But Amber wasn’t good enough??
DeleteColly I'm sorry but I won't read all the rant that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. The topic is Steffy and why she's spewing bullshit. It's true Taylor hasn't hurt Ridge and that's also the tragedy of it all - that in spite of that HE didn't want to be with her. Anything Brooke has done or hasn't done or Steffy believes has done is moot when Ridge doesn't want Taylor. That's what Queen genius can't get through her head. Of course I know she can but it's of course easier to blame Brooke. It's always about Brooke she's the goddess of their reality and this blog's 😅😅
DeleteIm sorry but i cant stand it
ReplyDeleteWriters are turning Douglas against his father again!!!
So whats the point in the story when we all see the outcome
Oh and Brookes son Rick maybe look at his padt deeds
Exactly
DeleteYes Mandy, Rick had a Myriad of mental health and behavioural issues, and did a lot of damage to others as well..
DeleteYet, Brooke judges Thomas when her own son did a lot of dirt as well.
DeleteExcellent point Elle!!
DeleteThank you Bob xxxx
ReplyDeleteMandy , if I remember correctly, Rick shot one of Brookes husbands at FC, and then they tried to pin it on Ridge!!
DeleteRidge went to prison actually for Rick.
DeleteTry to pin it on ridge 😂😂😂😂
DeleteHow exactly ??? since what happened back then rick was so messed up he did it but he couldn’t remember
And ridge took the blame to protect him
No one pin it on ridge
But then at the trail day rick came to court and admit he did it and cleared ridge‘s name
Even though at that point he still didn’t remember but he did confess for phoebe
And it's funny we mention people shooting each other (nobody knows why except to just throw random facts around or to distract of what is going on now, as usual) then this list must include Thomas shooting Rick as well.
Delete@milla and when rick shot grant and brook knew he did it not ridge
DeleteShe was devastated and said it was all her fault and she said to brigett that her way of living her life is wrong and she should stop going back and forth between men needs to stop
She admitted she was wrong
And her and Eric acknowledged the rick has issues and the bring him the professional help he needs
Something nor ridge and Taylor never did
Brooke also pointed a gun point blank at Stephanie and pulled the trigger. She missed. 😂😂
Delete@ elle
DeleteYes brook did that after she got the gun gift from Stephanie wrapped and telling her to shot herself
What brook did is absolutely wrong and that’s criminal and she should have paid for it
But that doesn’t make thomas murdering emma ok or what Taylor did to bill
Or what Stephanie did trying to kill brook more than once
Chocking her or shot at her in big bear, or chasing her with a knife
Or when she was so stupid to tell andy to go to brook and telling him where she hid the house key so he rapped her and then Stephanie the witch mocked her after she got rapped
That’s evil
But its ok for Stephanie and steffy or Thomas to these stuff but not other characters
But sure brook took advantage of the rape incident and use it to get ridge back which also wrong
Brooke was wrong as heck, Mmysh for attempting to shoot Stephanie but I can't help but laugh because the scene itself was so comedic. Brooke was raging mad and really wanted to do away with Stephanie but she missed. Steph was lucky that Brooke wasn't a straight shooter. 😂🤣😅
DeleteYes she was
DeleteIt would be ridiculous for the writers to kill such a main important character like Stephanie that early 😂😂
Listening to Thomas go on and on to Ridge about “what a horrible person Brooke is”, and how she is always “playing the victim”….was infuriating! Just total lies coming from Thomas! It’s bad enough that he framed her, but to go on and on to Ridge like he did - badmouthing her…I just wanted to smack him!! What a disgusting display of garbage spewing from his mouth!! He needs to take a good look in the mirror! Yes, Thomas…Brooke IS the ‘victim’ of your dastardly deed!!
ReplyDeleteElle, please note : this is the same guy who you maintain couldn’t have put the mannequin behind the curtain. Because after all, Thomas told Hope he was “just as surprised by it as she was!!” 😂😂😂😂. I’m sure Thomas has some ocean front property in Kansas he would like to sell too!!! Lol!!
It was ironic when Taylor told Finn…”I’m not sure why he is leaving Brooke exactly, other than wanting to be with me. I just know it’s not because Brooke ‘did something’ this time!” Uh no, that’s exactly why Ridge is reuniting with you, Taylor. It’s because Ridge THINKS Brooke ‘did something.’
I didn’t like the way Hope continued to defend Thomas to Brooke when Hope knows full well Thomas just acted in a very inappropriate way with her the night before. Brooke sat there and told Hope that Thomas is still obsessed with her, and Hope acted like the attempted kiss never even happened! What the hell, Hope??!!!! She could have at least told Brooke that Thomas has been acting a little ‘too friendly’ without actually mentioning the attempted kiss. But nope! Hope acted put-off by Brooke’s comments instead. Ridiculous!!! And Hope owes Liam the truth!! Not happy with Hope’s decisions lately.
@Lynn at least Hope toned down a little the blind defending Thomas, don't you think? Just a few episodes ago she used to almost lash out at Liam, raise voice saying "yes he is changed" bla bla. You're right she's still acting like an idiot who is hiding major things about Thomas and will be sorry, also because she'll have to admit how blind she was, but I think she's getting there.
DeleteBrooke with the help of someone will uncover the truth, it's coming! 🤩
Btw I'm now watching the mannequin episodes and am utterly terrified 😅 I somehow understand why Elle jumps at Thomas defense (probably) thinking we believe he is becoming exactly like that again. That mannequin is truly the scariest thing I've seen on this show, with the bloody eyes and the "kill Liam" 🙈🙈🙈🙈 it's worse than Sheila in her worst moments. Poor Thomas.
DeleteAnd don't worry, Ridge won't forget all this piling of lies Thomas just did once it's all revealed. It's one thing what he did previously it was centered around Hope and Liam, but he put his Dad through hell this time and I believe that's a first - to do something that directly hurts Ridge. And Hope when she learns he put Douglas in the middle of it, if she's not furious and cuts him off, then she's indeed an idiot plain and simple and should be with him.
Delete@ he did that to ridge before
DeleteWhen Thomas and brook had a crash and stucked in some island Fir days
Brook ate some kind of berries and she was hallucinating
When they get back his grandma used it against brook and promised his her shares in exchange for him to lie and saying brook slept with him
Sure ridge left her and went back to Taylor
But i give it to thomas
He knew it wasn’t right and told the truth by him self
Sure steffy blamed him coz ridge went back to brook who was devastated and cried all the time for how she could do this
At that time brook and Thomas were close and she was supportive of him with the taboo line
But after that their relationship starts to change
@lynn i felt that hope was not defending thomas as much telling her mother its not good to tell your mind
DeleteBut yeah i for sure agree she shouldn’t hide anything from her husband
Usually she doesn’t do that
Oh boy yes the berry story 😂 the reason for another botched Tridge reunion. It's hard to keep track of Thomas deeds (deliberate no less) with the line of actors playing him over the years, each of them playing him with an own set of problems. It's also one of the reasons (not a good one though) they don't hold him accountable for the past (with Brooke it's easy, when she's been played by the one and only KKL).
DeleteExactly changing the actor/ actress doesn’t erase the character history
DeleteBut sure that is the case with Taylor and Thomas fans
Even steffy is still playing by the same actress but that doesn’t apply to her with her fans 😂😂
@Lynn We actually saw Thomas (in flashbacks) make the CPS call, we did not see him, in flashbacks or otherwise, bring the mannequin. Ergo, it stands to reason that he was telling the truth about the mannequin. Also, we have seen Thomas go to lengths not to lie to or deceive Hope this time around. It's hardly likely he lied about it.
DeleteHope is not saying anything about the kiss because, unlike Brooke and Liam, she does not believe that Thomas is obsessed with her again. She has said to him numerous times that he has changed because that's what she believes. To tell Brooke about the kiss would be admitting that her mother is right and, up to this point, she does not think that Brooke is right. She knows how Thomas feels about her and, in her mind, it's not obsession.
Elle, it’s been as plain as day, that both Brooks and Liam sudden turn on Thomas started , when he wanted to step up and be a father to Douglas.. Brooke has said in her own words that the forresters are using him to “lure” Ridge away.. She also said that they were using him to come between her and Ridge.. Liam is saying the same but it’s Hope is using Douglas for!! Prior to that they had no issues about him for a very very long time.. so I maintain that their concerns are not really for Douglas, or that Thomas hasn’t changed.. we have seen them have no issues till now and seen all this develope.. up till he called cps..
Delete@ Milla, I hope Hope starts to see things even more clearly very soon. In my opinion she still seems too defensive when it comes to Thomas. But you are right that she has dialed it back a bit.
DeleteI guess I just didn’t expect her to defend him at all after the attempted kiss. After all, she’s gotta know Liam is right about him. Maybe she doesn’t think Thomas is still “obsessed with her.” But the fact that he showers her with compliments, tells her he is “a one woman man and that woman is her”, and tried to kiss her…should definitely tell her that Thomas is most certainly not on the up and up. I just don’t like to see her act so naive. I think she genuinely wants to believe Thomas has changed for Douglas’s sake. And that prevents her from being honest with herself. Hopefully things get so incredibly obvious, that even Hope stops making excuses for him!
@ Elle, Thomas is good at a few things….and lying is one of those things. He lies constantly and has proven to be very good at it. To assume he is not lying about the mannequin would seem to me to be turning a blind eye. But we may never find out because it may not come out. I’m going to assume that the most obvious thing is true, and that would be that he did bring up the mannequin because he is still obsessed with Hope.
DeleteMaybe Hope actually liked it and wants more except she can't because she is married to cry baby Liam. She secretly wants Thomas . I would like to see her get with Thomas . And Ridge stay with Taylor . Maybe put a real tail spin on things & have Ridge and Donna hook up or Brooke's other sister
ReplyDeleteI believe that Hope is starting to fall for Thomas as well. We have seen her defending him, spending a lot of time with him both at the office and at home and we've also seen her eyeing him. Even before the near kiss, after Thomas told her how she made him feel, there was a long pause before he moved in to kiss her. I believe she wanted him to kiss her but only stopped him because she's married and doesn't want to give him any kind of signal until she is sure about herself and what she wants.
DeleteKatie already tried it on with Ridge and he wasn’t interested!
DeleteYes, I agree, I believe that Hope is falling for Thomas, and I think it is because she can see how much he loves her, and is devoted her, and he has been so supportive to her in every aspect of her life, personally, professionally, as a mother, a business woman etc.. Where Liam has not been able to support her in any area of her life, not even on the one critical day of her career.. it broke my heart when she pretty much had to beg him to be there for her.. The desperation in her eyes and voice.. Liam really has no one to blame but himself if she pushes him away and towards Thomas.. He could have dealt with all of this very differently, but he chose to make it more about how he feels, than supporting her..
DeleteWhat would really be funny is to see Ridge with Paris
ReplyDeleteThat would be gross, but funny
ReplyDeleteI was waiting for someone to bring up Taylor & Steffy killing Forrester family members & today was the day! I've watched B&B since it came on in March 1987. I can write what happened on the very 1st show--but all the Brooke haters wouldn't like it! Taylor killed Thorne's lovely wife Darla while driving drunk. Darla had stopped to help change a tire for Steffy! This tragedy really decimated Thorne & Darla's daughter. Then yrs later--Thorne was dating Taylor! Steffy killed that poor girl w a rock that she bashed her head in with! Too bad Eric's niece witnessed this & taped it on her phone! Steffy tried several times to shut her up permanently but in the end Eric's niece went back to Australia where she was safe -far from Steffy! Both Taylor & Steffy killed ACTUAL FORRESTERS-not Marone imposters! I am sick to death of these B&B women having "Doormatitis"-- I treat plenty of women who have this "illness". Maybe I should go on B&B so they'd have an actual Dr on there who isn't a joke & is a hot redhead! Always had the hots for Deacon but this crap w Sheila killed that! But Dollar Bill is still appealing as all hell! And I usually date men in their 30's--before they let themselves go! Hey-men have dated younger women forever! Only difference? I'm no one's Sugar Mama! Only men are stupid enough to think you can "buy love" from younger mates! Women are not dumb like that! Ridge needs to be alone until he does some self reflection & realizes he treats women like shite! So--in my estimation--since Ridge is dumber than a box of rocks( my apologies to rocks!)--he'll be alone the rest of his life!
ReplyDeleteI forgot to thank mmysh for bringing up the murderous history of Steffy! Thanks Lynn for your always inciteful & witty comments too! Also Milla! And anyone else I've forgotten to thank. You guys brighten my day-& I'm sure you brighten other's days on here too! Mmysh-bet you remember when the late great actor Peter Brown played Taylor's psychotic ex husband who came on to make her life a living hell! Too bad he's no longer w us bc it'd be great to revive that storyline! Question--why is Steffy's baby named Hayes? That was Taylor's psychotic ex's last name! Why would you name your child a name that brings(never mentioned so maybe writers have selective amnesia?) back past trauma to her mother? This show needs to either retrain its writers or hire writers who are actually good storytellers!
ReplyDeleteI've also always wondered about Hayes 😅 the only explanation I have is that Steffy doesn't know her mom's real name, she should have named him Hamilton if she wanted to honor her, this way she's honoring her first marriage with the obsessed guy 😅
DeleteBtw thank you as well for showing up and telling things that happened - for the sake of justice but also because many of us don't know them. I for example didn't know Ally's murder was recorded and Steffy tried to cover it up 🙈 I know it was self-defense but the coverup... Poor Thorne, he didn't deserve to have both his wife and daughter killed.
@deborah thank you in return my dear
DeleteI watched the show since the beginning with my mother
And my memory is really good sometimes its a curse 😂😂
Yes steffy was defending her self with ally but the cover up was bad and how she bullied ivy which was wrong of her to stop and filmed instead of helping out
But when steffy‘s fans bring un hope pushing thomas in that tank as attempt murder we can consider steffy‘s accident a MURDER then
And yeah i remember how sweet and caring darla was
Its a shame she’s gone
Mmysh plus Hope didn't even push him, he was heading towards her and she moved sideways so he leaped into that container 😅 she just removed herself as a barrier, the alternative would have been both of them tumbling in the cleaning solution which in this case would have saved her and Brooke a night of terror 😅
Delete@milla exactly
DeleteYou remember thomas once bargained Douglas for one night with her it was when she went for halloween at Eric’s
Such a disgusting act his fans keeps forgetting about it
So can you blame her he was chasing her around the building locked his son somewhere and try to force himself on her
So sure she will defend herself
And btw i saw it someone said that brook is so evil she paid someone to rape
That did happened at all
Actually it was Stephanie who almost did that
But she didn’t send andy to rape brook
She told him that brook likes him and she is easy going and told him where the hide the key of the house
So he went there and refused to take no for an answer so he ended up rapping brook
And Stephanie was so mean to mock brook after that which was so mean
Of course brook took advantage of the incident and make ridge get back to her
Which was also not right on my opinion
Mmysh thank you!!! I've been asking at least three times for proof (episode, year) that Brooke hired someone fo rape another woman (twice!) and never got it. My guess is that she never did anything like that and now you confirm it.
DeleteWhat happened TO Brooke was one of the most devastating things I've ever seen on the show and I hated Stephanie for orchestrating it. But as far as I remember Ridge wasn't really over her anyway (when was he ever), so it was natural that he wanted to be there for her and they reuinited.
@milla i don’t wanna be unfair to Stephanie
DeleteShe sure didn’t want or expected this to happen but she was so stupid to give him this information
And yeah you are right about ridge
Brook will be always the love of his life
And i really hate when someone just drop a false information with any proof so if someone new will believe it
Forgetting that there is a lot of people watching and you can search for it easily
And of course the ignore any demands form others to provide anything to support their claims
Its just proving the information is totally wrong
“With no proof “
DeleteMmysh I actually am really on a quest to debunk the ugliest lie that has been said about Brooke, even if I have to do it myself and googled Amber's history (because I believe it was mentioned she was the rape victim), and surprise surprise, here's what I find: "Sheila pays off a man named Lance to drug and rape Amber, but when Lance threatens to tell Amber everything that happened, Sheila kills him."
DeleteWikihow about that! (Actually it was Wikipedia but it doesn't sound as good 😅)
Now I hope I never have to read this ugliness again (not that debunking twisted plots ever stopped anyone from repeating it, but to me is important the Brooke fans read it and know that's not true).
Bravo milla
DeleteI don’t what people think when they try to fool others with false information to serve their agenda
Not cool
Its easy for anyone of us to go searching gor it and prove them wrong
Or maybe sometimes people got conflicted to adore such characters as Thomas so the fool themselves and try finding excuses or false information about the characters the dislike
Smfh..I can’t believe what I'm reading right now. And not going to comment. It has to sink in a little and maybe I'll understand the whole point of this blog.
Delete@ d 😂😂😂
DeleteIts ok i got what you are feeling 😂😂😂😂
D, pleeeease don’t stress love, you can’t do that atm.. it’s just a blog love.. please don’t let it get to you love..
DeleteMilla, I speak for myself here, not everyone can recall all of history to its every word or exactly how it happened.. It is usually, as simple as some details were forgotten.. But, I don’t believe one “intends” to or intentionally, twist facts or out right lie, or leaves something out, just for their own “agendas”… also , peoples perceptions of how they view it in their own opinion, as Elle pointed out, is not always the same as how someone else views it.. A good example, is you pointed out, you are watching the mannequin storyline atm, and you stated you can understand why Elle defends Thomas’s current state, because it was horrifying for you to see what happened to Thomas during the brain tumour story, and you even said, poor Thomas.. This is just an example.. It’s not always just hating for the sake of hating either.. As Msmyth pointed out about how she felt for Steffy when, she lost her first baby.. I don’t like Brooke for what she did to her daughter and her sister, in my view, you cannot get more selfish, self-centred than that.. And that’s why I dislike her so much, not to mention her breaking up marriages and some families, for her own agenda.. She even admitted to Hope that she came between Ridge and Taylor.. And I don’t believe she has changed, apart from not sleeping with another man in recent years.. But she is still behaving the way she always has, in every other aspect, and that is in my own opinion.. But at the end of the day, everyone has their faves and not so faves, and will defend theirs, not because they have an agenda.. It would be really nice if we could all get along and respect each other , no matter who they support, rather than having a go at each other.. Lately this blog has been unbearable, because of personal attacks on other posters, and I take full responsibility for my own part in that.. However, It’s frustrating for ALL on this blog, to not be able to come here and enjoy each other’s views and have a good debate on a level that is “respectful” to all of us.. we ALL have a responsibility on this blog, to treat each other with respect and each other views.. I hope it can be that way going forward..
Delete@Colly I am totally with you regarding the support and respecting each other and I don't know that I have violated that. Is it because I debunked (by just googling) a very disgusting claim that was never proved but only repeated? I was asking to be proven time and again and this never happened. So I took it upon myself to set the record straight. I don't see a personal attack here. And it's totally okay to forget something - I haven't watched many things at all and even ask you to explain. Elle twice very decently admitted something she believed was one way was actually another. What I am against and was, was this particular very ugly claim against Brooke and very calmly asked to be proven. When that didn't happen but instead I kept seeing it in the same way splashed like it happened, I simply checked, like it was any suspicious piece of news one checks if it's fake. That's not about anyone's views but about what really happened and didn't happen.
DeleteNo not all love!! I said it to you because you wanted to know what happened that time.. I can say honestly, that I thought it was Brooke who set Amber up to be raped.. And I didn’t bring up in the past to be purposefully deceitful to you or anyone else, and certainly not for my own agenda, it was because my own recollection was ghat it was Brooke.. The point I was making, is ghat not everyone has perfect memories as some do.. And 35 years contains a lot of history.. An example would be when you and msmyth were talking about Hope and Thomas with the vat of acid.. Hope kept quiet, didn’t call for help, told Brooke and they agreed to keep quiet.. Brooke went to the lengths of saying Thomas left Douglas.. That is my recollection.. The fact that she didn’t actually push him, is asinine, in that, the issue, was hiding the fact and not calling for help.. I remembered there was a struggle, but my point was more that she and her mother didn’t come clean about it.. it doesn’t matter ghat it was only a night before Brooks went to tell ridge, as I remembered it and my point was that they hid it.. I didn’t get every detail right, but I also didn’t have an agenda because I didn’t remember every little aspect of it.. Like msmyth said herself, steffy killed Alley in self defence, just like hope did with Thomas, but steffy tried to cover up, well so did Hope and Brooke.. Do u see where I am coming from?? It’s not fair to say people have agendas trying to trick and deceive people for their own agendas.. when that’s not what is happening.. making statements like ghat is what causes trouble on the blog.. not everyone has photographic memories.. and sometimes the way in which people words things too.. it’s how it’s perceived.. it’s not done to intentionally get at someone.. and this what causes issues on the blog, the assumptions.. I have never tried to intentionally deceive anyone.. I responded to you because of your enquire as to what happened, and your agreement to another poster about the so called agendas and deceptions.. This is a fictional show and a blog and it’s getting taken way too seriously where people are having a go at others, and my point was that it really doesn’t have to be that way.. accusations against characters are very different to making them to real people on a blog because they don’t agree or don’t explain things to the standards others expect!! perception on hating on a character is much different to hating on the poster for hating their fave character.. Yes , it’s great to say got didn’t happen like that, but not to assume and say things about other posters characters.. That is what causes the issues on this blog.. and it doesn’t have to be that way..
DeleteAlso most people can’t remember the day and episode number or even year, when u ask for that.. it’s not easy pinpointing that info in 35 years of a show that airs five days a week.. and especially if you are from another country , and not in the states!! I am in Australia, Bbfan is in another country.. asking for dates, times episode numbers.. I would have trouble finding that info from Australia..
DeleteAnd Milla, this statement above is not directed at you personally love, it’s a general statement.. I am tired of FFans having to defend their integrities on a blog.. it’s rediculous to say the least.. my part in it was not tolerating it done to me.. I have never had to defend myself for anything, especially not how I spell something… I don’t do anything to intentionally cause a problem for someone else, and most people on this blog don’t..
DeleteColly, I didn't even realize it was you who first brought it up, I'm really sorry if I made you feel like I was bashing you or calling you a liar. I just feel very very strongly about the subject of rape (thankfully not due to any personal experience) and would never support a character, especially female, who would facilitate it and that's why I called the claim a disgusting lie. I know you're not deceitful and I respect you plenty. It was important to me to put this particular false statement to bed because it's more meaningful to me, speaks tons to the character of a person to premeditatedly do something like this and me supporting them would speak a lot about me to me. It is incomparable to keeping silent one night in a state of shock and stress and deciding how to help your child.
DeleteAnd believe me even though I am "younger" (than the show itself even 😅) I don't remember most of what happened. That's when something mentioned here sparks my interest I find the episode to watch what happened really and mention it.
DeleteThank you colly for all those nice words
DeleteIm totally against bashing a real human being for a fictional characters
Unless of course they attacked me
And for the record even though i hate thomas but i really felt for him during this hematoma period and how he suffered with hallucinations especially the day hope found him and the look on his face before he collapsed
I started to kinda let go of my hate for him but than he get back to his old tricks 😂
Why thomas why
And as you see me and milla we acknowledged how mistaken brook and hope was in these occasions
Without trying to find lame excuses
Which i hate with some of us here in the blog
Sure anyone is entitled to their opinion
And it should be respected but sure we will argue when some try to defend some disgusting behavior and find excuses for it or deny it completely
Then bash other characters for the same behavior
Thats all what we meant
Im sorry also if i bothered anyone
That was totally not my intentions
And im glad to have some nice ladies to discuss the show with
Ladies, no worries!! 😉 and Milla, I can completely understand your reasons for wanting to know that.. because I wouldn’t want to support someone who would do something like that either.. But for me, Brooke has done plenty other really bad things to earn my dislike of her.. I did initially like her in the beginning, but as time went by and things she did I grew to dislike her.. and of course, there’s not a character on the show who is squeaky clean that’s for sure, but for me , it’s a case of, “pick your poison”!! And there’s reasons we “all bash” characters we don’t like.. To me, I think Thomas is exactly like Taylor described him in that talk she had with Ridge, when he was telling Steffy and Taylor his confessions of how he could have been there for them at that time in their lives when they were little.. Taylor said he was the youngest, and got left behind the most.. I know he has done some questionable things, but the worst of his behaviour was actually due to a brain tumour.. But watching Thomas over the years, he was a good at heart kid, but went through a lot because of how selfish Ridge was.. He missed out on having his mother for years when he was young because she was presumed dead twice, he then watched his father hurt his mother over and over and over again.. That would screw any kid up!! So he’s been through a hell of a lot in his life.. If you watched the whole show Milla, you would understand why us FFans have a big soft spot for him.. @Mmysh, sorry, I have spelling your name wrong, I do apologise!! But that there, brings me to something you said, in regards to if you were attacked by another poster , it would be different, and that is true for me and many Ffan’s.. My spelling mistakes were brought up numerous times for no other reason than to get me to bite, so that’s what I meant by, is having to defend our characters.. Also, regarding your comment that you dislike the way people make excuses for their faves, and the forrester fans have had that thrown at them repeatedly by Lfans, yet in the next breath, they too, make excuses for the bad behaviour Brooks displays, and if it’s really bad , they go silent.. So , really, everyone is guilty of that 🤣🤣🤣 it won’t be the last time it happens.. But, I truly hope going forward, we can all treat this blog as it is, and that is to agree to disagree 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Delete@Colly I also have a soft spot for Thomas even without watching the whole show and even though supporting Brooke. When he looks in a certain way, my heart melts and I just wanna grab him and hug him.
DeleteBut what did Taylor mean he's the youngest? He's their oldest child or?
No, he is the youngest, I am pretty sure?? Remember when Ridge and Taylor were talking about how him always leaving them for Brooke had major effects on their kids, she said Steffy became the strong one, Phoebe just wanted love and family, and Thomas was the youngest and affected him the most , because he got left behind..
DeleteNo I'm sure she meant sth else. Thomas is their first-born. The twins came later. Steffy refers to herself also as his annoying little sister (that's some good self-awareness 😅😂)
DeleteNow that I've watched the show I have a question. Why was Ridge dressed like a Donnie Wayne (Miami Vice yrs) wannabe? Not in Ridge's wildest dreams! Have a humdinger of a story about ole Donnie Wayne but it'd probably get pulled! Here's a hint--Donnie was on a talk show where viewers could call in a few yrs ago. I was chomping at the bit bc Donnie said no woman ever turned him down! I know one who did on Sunday July 19th 1993--and I was so "in love" w him from his Miami Vice days! But--I am not a three lettered garden tool so I laughed at him! Btw-his wife (blonde Oscar nominated one-her 2nd marriage to this 3 letter garden tool!) was standing a few feet away! It's a hell of a story! Too bad I couldn't get on that talk show that night! Donnie had wonderful breath. Also- had perfect(his own) white teeth. Wondered how a heavy smoker accomplished that? He was so close to me I could see down his throat! That disgusting thing some men do to test boundaries of women when they first meet them. You know I called him on it. He came after me 3x. Then I told him I was a baseball pitcher & 3 strikes & you're OUT!
ReplyDeleteReason I'm up after 4am? Had a "mishap" yesterday at a take out place. They have these GODAWFUL doors at their businesses. Someone usually helps you w their doors--and I've seen big strong men struggle w those doors! I was entering & my left hand got caught in that door. Took an employee awhile to get me free but minus the upper tip of my left ring finger! Luckily there was a med clinic next door bc no way I could drive. One of the employees there went to talk to manager of take out place which the kids there had on the phone. He told her that my injury was not his problem & that he was refusing to pay for my treatment. I knew how serious this was-obviously part of my finger was gone--& I'm a lefty too! I was at that clinic quite some time. Nurse practitioner did her best to TRY to restore SOME of the fleshy part of fingertip but it was hopeless. I was trying to make her feel better by joking. Embarrassed to say that it hurt as much as any of my bone fractures. I guess that business doesn't realize it's far cheaper to pay an injured customer's medical bill than the "alternative!" The operative word will be SUE! Wagyu roast beef! Just a cautionary tale for those who might like Wagyu! Will be talking to most likely the head honcho of the chain on Monday. Always go to the head bc THAT'S the person who can see reason--meaning it'd be bad publicity(the greed factor). The main concern at clinic was there is a very good chance I might lose that ENTIRE finger! I know they weren't just being super cautious bc I'm a Dr & I already knew I'd hear that. The shots wore off about 10 hrs ago. Reiki healing videos didn't help. Going to put on some hilarious movies. May make me forget the pain & prognosis? Only reason I wrote this was to warn you all about this "place". Not looking for sympathy. Dealing w far worse than this finger. Oh-one last question for all the Brooke haters. Ever stop to think she's such a gifted actress that you guys sometimes act like these characters are real & not actors on tv? That's how good she is at her craft! Susan Flannery & KKL were the best of friends in real life. Susan mentioned several times in interviews that KKL deserved an Emmy for being superb but wasn't even nominated! KKL had her own night time tv show for awhile. She played a bounty hunter in the old West & was very good on it. KKL is an expert horse woman in real life. So-Brooke haters--ponder this--how gifted is this actress that you hate her CHARACTER (not her hopefully!) so much? I really do not want to end my life long car racing career bc of this finger problem. Or not be able to do martial arts anymore. Sorry guys. I shouldn't be dwelling on the negative aspects but trying to find the positive in this? Took some time to write all this w/o using left hand. As Evita said-paraphrasing-don't cry for my left finger! Darryl Hannah only has 9 fingers. I think she's done pretty well-LOL-for herself! She's part of the Pritzer (not sure of spelling) family in Chgo. Billionaire family--current Gov of IL is one & actually shares same bday as I do. Not that that matters! I don't know how she lost HER finger but goes to show-even billionaires can't replace a finger! At least it wasn't my most "important" finger-the middle one!
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear that my dear hope you get well soon
DeleteA lot of the things you mentioned im not familiar with since im not American
But i totally agree about KKL being such a good actress
I saw her once in an episode of family feud with the B&b cast
In real life she is a totally different person
Mmysh, KKL is absolutely lovely in person.. I met her when she came to Australia and it weirded me out a bit , because you look at her hear her voice and your thinking Brooks, but she is so very different in real life.. She is a real sweetheart!!
DeleteI do agree that KKL should have in her time received an award, or at least a nomination..
Delete@colly omg exactly my point
DeleteIn the family feud
She was silly making jokes
Not serious at all
Without this deep voice a totally different person so i thought she must be a very good actress
And her beauty for age is stunning acutely she doesn’t seems to have any major plastic surgery
She is very pretty for age.. When I met her, my close friend is a stylist to the stars here in Australia, and gess knew I loved the show and invited me along, as I was talking to her I got a bit weirded out , because hearing her and looking at her , in my head I saw and Brooke, but she was very different in person.. Sweet as pie and absolutely nothing like her character!! And that infamous giggle we all know, is just her, it’s not an act 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I really like her IRL, I just can’t stand the character.. But, yes, kudos to her for her talent, that’s for sure, to try and act someone who is the total opposite of who you really are, takes talent!!
Delete@Colly did you tell her you can't stand her character? 🤣🤣
DeleteYes love!! Did u not read what I wrote above, I said I like her irl , I just can’t stand her Character 🤣🤣🤣 and I wrote it up further!! I am pretty sure everyone knows I can’t stand her character 🤣🤣🤣 I have been pretty vocal about that!! 🤣🤣🤣
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DeleteOk Taylor you got Ridge now you can go back to your own office and stop being that clingy chick ! Hope on the other hand I can't even call naive again , she just straight dumb to believe after Thomas tried to kiss her that he has changed!! She keep constantly leading this man on faithless spending time with him and everyone blame him but hope is to blame for constantly spending time with him knowing he is obsessed with her !!
ReplyDeleteOkay Miss Brooke doesn't like Thomas, she'll never does. Even though the true come out, what Ridge supposed to do, banished his son ever just to be with a woman 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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