Ok, now the choppy waters of Liam and Hope relationship will begin. I wonder if there will be an episode of Liam is going to ball Steffy out. Oh, now how is Douglas going to feel if Liam has arguments with Hope at the cabin about Thomas, he may have wished to have stayed longer at Steffy's. I sure hope that the therapy sessions will pay off and make an improvement with Thomas. I heard Ridge is coming back this week, Boy! wait till he finds out what happened while he was away. I wonder how Ridge will feel that Thomas is back at Forrester's, and I can't wait to see what happens at the Grand opening of Deacon's restaurant, I hear it going to have to do with Sheila.
Douglas just might be happy if Hope and Liam are arguing all the time. He has not made it a secret that 1) he does not like Liam and 2) he wants his parents together.
Milla, I was actually starting to miss the waffler myself. Lol. I believe there are only going to be 2 or 3 episodes this week. March Madness basketball is going to preempt B&B.
Ridge really can't blame Thomas for the destruction of his marriage to Brooke, at most Thomas just started the ball rolling. Ridge rolls basically on a stupid high school mentality of "she should know why I'm mad." and then refuse to tell her why. They real question is what does Brooke want with that gasbag Ridge. Ridge equated being mad at Brooke meant true love for Taylor who regressed into her own high school slam book slumber party. I was waiting for them to try out for the school play. Ridge won't like putting Thomas back into badland territory where his schemes increase in deviousness and very close to felonies if anyone goes ahead and presses charges.
Lynn exactly. With so few characters, especially men, Ridge's absence is noticeable. However with their newfound friendship now Brooke and Taylor probably won't get involved with him. Which is great. But I still hope for some romance and not only grandma giggle bonding.
Milla, I agree. The show needs some more men. The men who are 50 + are all certifiable nut jobs at the moment! Well except Eric…he’s the only normal one left.
Gals, here is an interesting link to listen to about Ridge on You Tube titled "Will Ridge Block Thomas' Return?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFlNDJV-5M
I don't think she cares one way or another about Liam other than him being Kelly's dad. When Hope first came to her about bringing back Thomas to HFTF, Steffy told her that she needed to discuss it with Liam first.
It can't be that she doesn't care about Liam 0% apart from him being Kelly's dad. It's not humanly possible with history like theirs. That's why I say the twinkle is very subtle.
I liked the color too but I prefer Steffy in more casual wear. She is still so young and can save the heavy suits for when she's in her 50s. When she wears jeans she's such a babe.
By the way guys do you know on soaps . com they have a whole forum for the show and so active (There was a whole thread only for Taylor's sweater 🤣)! I only took a peek and left because it's mostly hate spewing not like here also discussing the psychology of the show.
@Milla From what i read I think it will be Wednesday, just before Thursday & Friday interruption of something. Ridge will not be happy with Steffy's decision that's for sure. The writers need to give Wyatt a life besides hanging at the Spencer's office and Liam's house. Wyatt has not said anything about where his love life stands. I think Steffy is fed up with Liam, the glob man. Thomas is over doing in trying to stay on Hope's good side, he is so desperate to get his designing job back., PLUS, he has got to stop saying "I promise" we all know in the past that those two words did going well, he has got to remember for this is LAST CHANCE to do good. I am wondering if Ridge will be able to work in the same room with Thomas.
If Ridge is still upset, it means that he is still holding on to his marriage going kaput because of Thomas' actions. And he would be the only one! Even Brooke has moved on!
Elle, I don’t think so. I think Ridge was extremely hurt by what Thomas did for many reasons. One is the obvious destruction of Ridge’s marriage. But also, if you recall…Ridge felt so betrayed by his son because he always defended Thomas against Brooke and whomever bashed Thomas. He ALWAYS stood by him, only to be tricked, betrayed and lied to. Thomas looked Ridge straight in the eye (on many occasions) and blatantly lied to him. He broke that trust that Ridge had 100% given to him. So it’s more than just the marriage ending. It’s the complete betrayal that Ridge is upset about.
So true Eli, Thomas definitely should dial it down. They know him, he knows him, we know him 😅 Lynn absolutely, Ridge was the most disillusioned with Thomas on many levels. It was also so good acting from TK when he yelled at him, powerful. I hope when he returns they give him good storylines.
Milla, Steffy is coCeo of a successful international Fashion House.. jeans aren’t really worn appropriate lol. She looked stunning today. She is in a suit but it was sexy and more youthful. Not her granny’s suit for sure 😏
Liam’s comment - “That’s where I get off the train.” 😂😂. Fer sure!! I’m using that one in the future. And yes, Wyatt…Thomas is CREEPY! That’s a great way to describe him! Very cute outfit Steffy! Way better than the leopard print / zebra print! Thomas is “Giving his word”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. That means absolutely NOTHING!! Hope you definitely should have told Liam before you committed to bringing Thomas back. There are rough waters ahead…
I think Liam was being disingenuous when he said that he didn't have an issue with Thomas in Hope's life because they shared a child together. For the last couple of months in 2022, Liam wanted Thomas nowhere near Hope and it was mainly because he felt that he was obsessed with her again. He also wanted her to get full custody of Douglas. I think the inevitable fallout from Hope bringing Thomas back on to HFTF, is going to blow up way past just the job aspect.
I actually think Steffy’s looks have improved over the last few months. She really is a very striking woman. And yes, the color / the style…100% loved that outfit on her. I think Liam has every right to despise Thomas. But to think Thomas will not be a part of their lives when Douglas is shared between Hope and Thomas isn’t remotely realistic. Liam is in a tough spot. He sees Thomas as a ticking time bomb which he has proven to be time and time again. But Liam’s anger also needs to be directed at Steffy for putting Hope in that position in the first place.
I think Liam has every right to be cautious where Thomas is concerned but his dislike of him seems to have come out of left field since late last year, especially since he was okay with Thomas when he fessed up about Vinny's suicide which, in turn, was able to set Liam free from prison. That said, I understand Liam being protective of Hope but he has to make greater effort to accept Thomas being back on Hope's line if only for the sole purpose of ensuring that Douglas is not caught up in the middle of a "war" again. Because even if Thomas was not a part of HFTF, he would eventually have been back at FC where both him and Hope would be everyday.
I don't think Steffy was wrong. She gave Hope 2 options: either she brings Thomas back or they put HFTF on pause. Sure, Hope didn't want that but having the line on pause would have given her some time to find someone else to fill Thomas' shoes. She did not have to choose Thomas. Liam's anger needs to be with his wife who deceived him. Noone else is to blame.
You can’t consider hope deceived him she changed her mind which is still wrong for me to give an answer before telling her husband but she wasn’t lying to him And for me i get and understand where liam is coming from but still he should be able to understand his wife and how her career is important to her So he shouldn’t be doing this And him accepting her work decision doesn’t mean he can’t keep an eye in thomas Im totally not a fan of Thomas but i was really against his family’s decision of firing him they should have handled the situation better
Hope didn’t deceive Liam. Just like Mmysh mentioned above, Hope changed her mind. And she came straight home to tell Liam that. No deception. Steffy put Hope in a no win situation. I think Steffy bears responsibility as well. Steffy is being very short sided thinking Thomas is the only one that can make Hope’s line successful. No one is irreplaceable.
Lynn do you remember that actually Taylor and Brooke pushed Hope to decide before they left the room. If those nosy grannies had just been quiet 😅 Neither Thomas nor Steffy were pushing for a decision, Hope could have had the day, reconsidered, talked again with Liam. Of course she's a grown woman and could have also said "let me sleep on it once again" and not just blindly shaken hands with Thomas.
Yes, Milla…for sure the nosy grandmas should have butted out. 😂😂. But the problem was, Thomas had just apologized to Brooke. And Taylor (who is Thomas’ personal cheerleader) was pressuring Hope for sure. Then Brooke said…”I believe Thomas is sincere”, which put Hope in a position to consider rehiring Thomas since one of Hope’s conditions was that he apologize to her mom. Then Douglas coming in and saying what he did threw Hope into a position of acceptance because she desperately wants her son back at home. It wasn’t all Steffy’s doing. But if she had never given Hope the ultimatum, then Thomas would still just be dreaming about returning to Forrester. I think Thomas should go off on his own and design someplace else. That would have been a good twist. But nope, we are on wash, rinse, repeat cycle instead. The same old stories get rehashed so many times. 🙄🙄🙄
Hahaha personal cheerleader describes her perfectly. She was pushing the most indeed! 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ so true, wash, rinse, repeat as usual. I really hope they come up with something better than Hope-Thomas-Liam drama again where she slowly allows herself to be manipulated until the Thomasness blows up in their faces. Although now that I write it I kinda wanna see the last part for sure 😂
Lmao Milla. You're on a roll! "nosy grannies" "Thomasness." Love it! Lol.
Lynn, I don't think Steffy's ultimatum was a no-win situation. As I said before, Hope could have used HFTF being on pause to find someone else that she could work with or who would understand her vision. I also stand corrected on the deceit part by Hope however, I still think that noone else is to blame. Hope decided to change her mind and that is who Liam has to sort things out with. Marching into FC to tell Steffy, co-CEO of FC, how to run her business where his wife is concerned is out of the question.
Hahahah Elle 😂😂 I think we all can agree that nothing is more entertaining than the explosion of Thomasness 😂 I actually expect Liam to get involved now and talk with everybody - Steffy, Brooke, even Thomas himself. You know it's what they do - when something happens, everybody talks with everybody, then somebody goes to the other office and talks with whoever is there 😅
Elle, I thought it would be out of the question for Taylor to insert herself into all this FC business as well. Yet here we are. Steffy has brought up Liam a few times. I do think Liam has a right to weigh in on this with Steffy. And perhaps give her a different perspective. It’s no more harmful than mommy Taylor inserting herself into this debacle.
But Taylor did not insert herself. Steffy called both Thomas and Taylor to the office to let them know about the decision which was made about Thomas. I will agree that Taylor should not have been included but she certainly did not invite herself to the party. That said, going back to the original topic of conversation, I firmly believe that this is something that Liam needs to pick up with his wife. If he wants to have a chat with Steffy, it should not be about her giving Hope an ultimatum or telling her how to run FC where HFTF is concerned.
Elle, you must have missed the past 2 weeks of episodes. Let me assure you, Taylor has literally done NOTHING ELSE but insert herself. I mean literally…NOTHING!! 😂😂😂😂
Let’s be clear, in any real life situation Thomas would have been let go for sexual harassment. Thomas shouldn’t even be there. But since FC practices nepotism galore, I think we can all agree there is a very different dynamic where Liam and Steffy are concerned. Just like Finn wants to protect his family, Liam wants to protect his. And a compromise could surely be reached. At the end of the day, Steffy and the other board members get to make the decision. But Liam having a discussion with Steffy is definitely reasonable.
Two different rooms and if Thomas needs to submit his drawings he can give it to hope's assistant and if there's a design meeting he can be present via face time that's compromise
Here's an idea. I've said this before as well. Thomas being back on HFTF does not mean that he and Hope have to work closely together.
Maybe they can spread out the org. structure a bit where they have an independent design department that does all designing for all the lines - couture, lingerie, HFTF etc. Appoint Thomas as Head of this department and if he wishes to work solely on HFTF, he can do so. Designs coming out of this department can be delivered to the respective lines without Thomas and Hope having to be so closely intertwined in each others' work lives.
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Ok, now the choppy waters of Liam and Hope relationship will begin. I wonder if there will be an episode of Liam is going to ball Steffy out. Oh, now how is Douglas going to feel if Liam has arguments with Hope at the cabin about Thomas, he may have wished to have stayed longer at Steffy's. I sure hope that the therapy sessions will pay off and make an improvement with Thomas. I heard Ridge is coming back this week, Boy! wait till he finds out what happened while he was away. I wonder how Ridge will feel that Thomas is back at Forrester's, and I can't wait to see what happens at the Grand opening of Deacon's restaurant, I hear it going to have to do with Sheila.
ReplyDeleteAhhh I was just missing Ridge!!! Good he's coming back 🤗
DeleteDouglas just might be happy if Hope and Liam are arguing all the time. He has not made it a secret that 1) he does not like Liam and 2) he wants his parents together.
DeleteMilla, I was actually starting to miss the waffler myself. Lol.
DeleteI believe there are only going to be 2 or 3 episodes this week. March Madness basketball is going to preempt B&B.
So when loam and hope argued about Douglas or anything else for that matter in front of Douglas ot even beth ???
DeleteRidge really can't blame Thomas for the destruction of his marriage to Brooke, at most Thomas just started the ball rolling. Ridge rolls basically on a stupid high school mentality of "she should know why I'm mad." and then refuse to tell her why. They real question is what does Brooke want with that gasbag Ridge. Ridge equated being mad at Brooke meant true love for Taylor who regressed into her own high school slam book slumber party. I was waiting for them to try out for the school play. Ridge won't like putting Thomas back into badland territory where his schemes increase in deviousness and very close to felonies if anyone goes ahead and presses charges.
DeleteLynn exactly. With so few characters, especially men, Ridge's absence is noticeable. However with their newfound friendship now Brooke and Taylor probably won't get involved with him. Which is great. But I still hope for some romance and not only grandma giggle bonding.
DeleteMilla, I agree. The show needs some more men. The men who are 50 + are all certifiable nut jobs at the moment! Well except Eric…he’s the only normal one left.
DeleteGals, here is an interesting link to listen to about Ridge on You Tube titled "Will Ridge Block Thomas' Return?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFlNDJV-5M
DeleteI'm always hoping Wyatt will say something about his own life but it's always all about Liam and Bill :( so unfair.
ReplyDeleteBtw do you notice Steffy always has a tiny (well acted!!) twinkle in her eye when trouble may ensue between Hope and Liam 😁
If I'm Liam this will be my tipping point.
Thomas you're laying it on a little too thick with the whole "protecting the marriage" thing 😅
Steffy, you'll cross that "Ridge" when you get there 😀 when will that be btw? I miss the head tilt a little.
Those colors on Steffy today... wow! Loved them!
DeleteI don't think she cares one way or another about Liam other than him being Kelly's dad. When Hope first came to her about bringing back Thomas to HFTF, Steffy told her that she needed to discuss it with Liam first.
@Elle Purple is my favorite color
DeleteIt can't be that she doesn't care about Liam 0% apart from him being Kelly's dad. It's not humanly possible with history like theirs. That's why I say the twinkle is very subtle.
DeleteI liked the color too but I prefer Steffy in more casual wear. She is still so young and can save the heavy suits for when she's in her 50s. When she wears jeans she's such a babe.
By the way guys do you know on soaps . com they have a whole forum for the show and so active (There was a whole thread only for Taylor's sweater 🤣)! I only took a peek and left because it's mostly hate spewing not like here also discussing the psychology of the show.
DeleteMilla, that is too funny!!
Delete@Milla From what i read I think it will be Wednesday, just before Thursday & Friday interruption of something. Ridge will not be happy with Steffy's decision that's for sure. The writers need to give Wyatt a life besides hanging at the Spencer's office and Liam's house. Wyatt has not said anything about where his love life stands. I think Steffy is fed up with Liam, the glob man. Thomas is over doing in trying to stay on Hope's good side, he is so desperate to get his designing job back., PLUS, he has got to stop saying "I promise" we all know in the past that those two words did going well, he has got to remember for this is LAST CHANCE to do good. I am wondering if Ridge will be able to work in the same room with Thomas.
ReplyDeleteIf Ridge is still upset, it means that he is still holding on to his marriage going kaput because of Thomas' actions. And he would be the only one! Even Brooke has moved on!
DeleteElle, I don’t think so. I think Ridge was extremely hurt by what Thomas did for many reasons. One is the obvious destruction of Ridge’s marriage. But also, if you recall…Ridge felt so betrayed by his son because he always defended Thomas against Brooke and whomever bashed Thomas. He ALWAYS stood by him, only to be tricked, betrayed and lied to. Thomas looked Ridge straight in the eye (on many occasions) and blatantly lied to him. He broke that trust that Ridge had 100% given to him. So it’s more than just the marriage ending. It’s the complete betrayal that Ridge is upset about.
DeleteLynn spot on these things are more more important than a marriage
DeleteTotally agree
So true, Lynn!
DeleteSo true Eli, Thomas definitely should dial it down. They know him, he knows him, we know him 😅
DeleteLynn absolutely, Ridge was the most disillusioned with Thomas on many levels. It was also so good acting from TK when he yelled at him, powerful. I hope when he returns they give him good storylines.
Milla, Steffy is coCeo of a successful international Fashion House.. jeans aren’t really worn appropriate lol. She looked stunning today. She is in a suit but it was sexy and more youthful. Not her granny’s suit for sure 😏
DeleteLiam’s comment - “That’s where I get off the train.” 😂😂. Fer sure!! I’m using that one in the future. And yes, Wyatt…Thomas is CREEPY! That’s a great way to describe him!
ReplyDeleteVery cute outfit Steffy! Way better than the leopard print / zebra print!
Thomas is “Giving his word”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. That means absolutely NOTHING!!
Hope you definitely should have told Liam before you committed to bringing Thomas back. There are rough waters ahead…
Steffy's outfit was very cute.
DeleteI think Liam was being disingenuous when he said that he didn't have an issue with Thomas in Hope's life because they shared a child together. For the last couple of months in 2022, Liam wanted Thomas nowhere near Hope and it was mainly because he felt that he was obsessed with her again. He also wanted her to get full custody of Douglas. I think the inevitable fallout from Hope bringing Thomas back on to HFTF, is going to blow up way past just the job aspect.
I actually think Steffy’s looks have improved over the last few months. She really is a very striking woman. And yes, the color / the style…100% loved that outfit on her.
DeleteI think Liam has every right to despise Thomas. But to think Thomas will not be a part of their lives when Douglas is shared between Hope and Thomas isn’t remotely realistic. Liam is in a tough spot. He sees Thomas as a ticking time bomb which he has proven to be time and time again.
But Liam’s anger also needs to be directed at Steffy for putting Hope in that position in the first place.
I think Liam has every right to be cautious where Thomas is concerned but his dislike of him seems to have come out of left field since late last year, especially since he was okay with Thomas when he fessed up about Vinny's suicide which, in turn, was able to set Liam free from prison. That said, I understand Liam being protective of Hope but he has to make greater effort to accept Thomas being back on Hope's line if only for the sole purpose of ensuring that Douglas is not caught up in the middle of a "war" again. Because even if Thomas was not a part of HFTF, he would eventually have been back at FC where both him and Hope would be everyday.
DeleteI don't think Steffy was wrong. She gave Hope 2 options: either she brings Thomas back or they put HFTF on pause. Sure, Hope didn't want that but having the line on pause would have given her some time to find someone else to fill Thomas' shoes. She did not have to choose Thomas. Liam's anger needs to be with his wife who deceived him. Noone else is to blame.
You can’t consider hope deceived him she changed her mind which is still wrong for me to give an answer before telling her husband but she wasn’t lying to him
DeleteAnd for me i get and understand where liam is coming from but still he should be able to understand his wife and how her career is important to her
So he shouldn’t be doing this
And him accepting her work decision doesn’t mean he can’t keep an eye in thomas
Im totally not a fan of Thomas but i was really against his family’s decision of firing him they should have handled the situation better
Hope didn’t deceive Liam. Just like Mmysh mentioned above, Hope changed her mind. And she came straight home to tell Liam that. No deception. Steffy put Hope in a no win situation. I think Steffy bears responsibility as well. Steffy is being very short sided thinking Thomas is the only one that can make Hope’s line successful. No one is irreplaceable.
DeleteLynn do you remember that actually Taylor and Brooke pushed Hope to decide before they left the room. If those nosy grannies had just been quiet 😅 Neither Thomas nor Steffy were pushing for a decision, Hope could have had the day, reconsidered, talked again with Liam. Of course she's a grown woman and could have also said "let me sleep on it once again" and not just blindly shaken hands with Thomas.
DeleteYes, Milla…for sure the nosy grandmas should have butted out. 😂😂. But the problem was, Thomas had just apologized to Brooke. And Taylor (who is Thomas’ personal cheerleader) was pressuring Hope for sure. Then Brooke said…”I believe Thomas is sincere”, which put Hope in a position to consider rehiring Thomas since one of Hope’s conditions was that he apologize to her mom. Then Douglas coming in and saying what he did threw Hope into a position of acceptance because she desperately wants her son back at home. It wasn’t all Steffy’s doing. But if she had never given Hope the ultimatum, then Thomas would still just be dreaming about returning to Forrester. I think Thomas should go off on his own and design someplace else. That would have been a good twist. But nope, we are on wash, rinse, repeat cycle instead. The same old stories get rehashed so many times. 🙄🙄🙄
DeleteHahaha personal cheerleader describes her perfectly. She was pushing the most indeed! 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ so true, wash, rinse, repeat as usual. I really hope they come up with something better than Hope-Thomas-Liam drama again where she slowly allows herself to be manipulated until the Thomasness blows up in their faces. Although now that I write it I kinda wanna see the last part for sure 😂
DeleteLmao Milla. You're on a roll! "nosy grannies" "Thomasness." Love it! Lol.
DeleteLynn, I don't think Steffy's ultimatum was a no-win situation. As I said before, Hope could have used HFTF being on pause to find someone else that she could work with or who would understand her vision. I also stand corrected on the deceit part by Hope however, I still think that noone else is to blame. Hope decided to change her mind and that is who Liam has to sort things out with. Marching into FC to tell Steffy, co-CEO of FC, how to run her business where his wife is concerned is out of the question.
Hahahah Elle 😂😂 I think we all can agree that nothing is more entertaining than the explosion of Thomasness 😂
DeleteI actually expect Liam to get involved now and talk with everybody - Steffy, Brooke, even Thomas himself. You know it's what they do - when something happens, everybody talks with everybody, then somebody goes to the other office and talks with whoever is there 😅
Elle, I thought it would be out of the question for Taylor to insert herself into all this FC business as well. Yet here we are. Steffy has brought up Liam a few times. I do think Liam has a right to weigh in on this with Steffy. And perhaps give her a different perspective. It’s no more harmful than mommy Taylor inserting herself into this debacle.
DeleteSpot on Lynn.
DeleteBut Taylor did not insert herself. Steffy called both Thomas and Taylor to the office to let them know about the decision which was made about Thomas. I will agree that Taylor should not have been included but she certainly did not invite herself to the party. That said, going back to the original topic of conversation, I firmly believe that this is something that Liam needs to pick up with his wife. If he wants to have a chat with Steffy, it should not be about her giving Hope an ultimatum or telling her how to run FC where HFTF is concerned.
DeleteElle, you must have missed the past 2 weeks of episodes. Let me assure you, Taylor has literally done NOTHING ELSE but insert herself. I mean literally…NOTHING!! 😂😂😂😂
DeleteAnd not only did Taylor insert herself in the Thomas / Steffy mess, but Taylor also pled her case to Hope about Thomas.
DeleteLet’s be clear, in any real life situation Thomas would have been let go for sexual harassment. Thomas shouldn’t even be there. But since FC practices nepotism galore, I think we can all agree there is a very different dynamic where Liam and Steffy are concerned. Just like Finn wants to protect his family, Liam wants to protect his. And a compromise could surely be reached. At the end of the day, Steffy and the other board members get to make the decision. But Liam having a discussion with Steffy is definitely reasonable.
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ReplyDeleteTwo different rooms and if Thomas needs to submit his drawings he can give it to hope's assistant and if there's a design meeting he can be present via face time that's compromise
ReplyDeleteHere's an idea. I've said this before as well. Thomas being back on HFTF does not mean that he and Hope have to work closely together.
DeleteMaybe they can spread out the org. structure a bit where they have an independent design department that does all designing for all the lines - couture, lingerie, HFTF etc. Appoint Thomas as Head of this department and if he wishes to work solely on HFTF, he can do so. Designs coming out of this department can be delivered to the respective lines without Thomas and Hope having to be so closely intertwined in each others' work lives.
Sounds like a good plan! 👍🏻👍🏻
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