The Bold and the Beautiful 1-12-24 Full episode B&B 12th January 2024
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ReplyDeleteThat was a bit anticlimactic 😅 the spoilers led us to believe Thomas will confess to Steffy, not Hope. Now if on the next episode she doesn't give him hell about leaving Emma there, I'd officially believe Hope is the biggest idiot on this show. She should return the ring. Nobody who does this and would have been happy to live his life without any remorse, if it wasn't for Xander, is someone you should share a bed with.
ReplyDeleteLynn the spoilers are also a bit boring, though hopeful...
Its funny he confessed the easy parts
DeleteSuch a lying man
Sure he will not tell her how he was violent with emma at the office
He was dead serious
And he was chasing her so closely blind her with his car’s beams
And it so funny and ridiculous
No one can survive that
Who the hell are you to decide
A psychopath indeed
And milla i agree if this didn’t raise a big red flag with hope she is really the most stupid naive character on the show
I know! It's bad enough what he did, it's bad enough to cover it up then but also never mention it for years and now act all like it's always weighed on him? Please! Once again because he got caught. I guess there is some miniscule progression to what he would have done before - threaten people and use apps and helicopters and what not... But that doesn't mean much, unless he confesses to the family and stops putting the focus on "I didn't kill her, I didn't want her to die" - well good for you for not actually smashing someone's car down a cliff. My hope is with Hope now to really show him the weight of what he did.
Delete@Milla After Thomas confessing to Hope like that, I don't think she will be comfortable continuing her relationship with Thomas. Thomas certainly didn't tell Steffy the real story like he did with Hope, I wonder now, will she tell Steffy what Thomas told her? I don't think Steffy is going to convince Finn that her brother is innocent, from that look on his face.
DeleteIf someone has their high beams on, it won't affect you if they're driving very close behind you. Thomas would have been a little way behind Emma if she was able to see his highlights in her rear view. So it's not possible that he was tailgating her as has been suggested.
DeleteAlso, it seems that the more Thomas does to prove he's a changed man, the more he is hated on. The old Thomas would have never come clean with Hope. But people, like Finn and Liam, are intent on defining Thomas by his past mistakes so, in their little minds, he will never change, no matter what he does to prove otherwise.
In criminology, you learn to follow the evidence. That's very important. An investigator should never come to a conclusion about an alleged crime then try to find evidence to prove his theory right. There was absolutely no evidence to prove that Thomas killed Emma. Since the producers, and even Bell himself, said that Thomas did not kill Emma, I think they brought up the story again to reiterate that point.
I've said a while aback that I love the way Thomas protects Hope by not divulging anything about them or their relationship to anyone, even his sister. When Steffy wanted to know what went down in Rome, Thomas shut her down. Today, he did the same. He knows Finn is after him so he kept mum about what really happened and chose to tell Hope the truth himself. Bravo Thomas! I'm so proud!
Elle like I said - good for him for not using all his crazy manipulations and threats this time boo hoo, but the mistake he made every single day since then by not confessing. It is a big deal and it will be a big deal to Hope and to everyone who hears about it. He is not a changed man, not nearly enough anyway. He is not as evil as he was, okay, but he has a long way to go. Only now he remembers how much it weighed on him?! How?! That's sociopathic.
DeleteWhat do you mean "he kept mum about what really happened"? And yes he is only speaking because Finn is on to him. That's the whole point. Something to be proud of would be to tell himself years ago, without anyone being onto him. He just does what he always does - faces consequences when someone is "after him". Good for him for not threatening and kidnapping though 🙄
I will say Bravo when he confesses to a higher level - Emma's family or the authorities. I said so on the previous episode too - it would be refreshing. It still wouldn't make this "relationship" with his former step-sister whose brother he tried to kill multiple times right, never, but it would definitely make him a more decent man.
DeleteI see Thomas following the same kind of redemption path as Michael on The Young and the Restless. Remember when Michael was a psychopath and stalked Christine and did all kinds of crazy stuff? And now everybody in Genoa City loves him, and nobody brings that stuff up anymore. It'll take some time, but I think Thomas will get there too. Is it realistic that somebody could come back from that kind of checkered past and end up becoming a decent person after all? No, not even remotely. But this is soap-land we're talking about, where stuff like that happens all the time.
DeleteElizabeth I hope you're right. There must be some line of Thomasness that once crossed you can never go back from and that should be it for Hope. And yes Finn is definitely not letting it go, he feels very strongly about it. The way many other people will. I doubt anyone who hears would say "ehhh but he didn't actually hit her, come on, chill" or "well done confessing, who cares if it's years too late." And if it comes out that Ridge new and covered it up... Brooke may not be too happy either.
DeleteMilla, didn't you hear Thomas explain that he covered it up because he knew people would think he did it and that's why he's happy that it has come up again? Because it gives him a chance to come clean. And yes, Finn is on his case about it but what I meant was that he did not tell Steffy the truth because he didn't want Finn hearing it from her so that he can go and spin the 'Thomas is a murderer' story to Hope. He wanted the chance to tell her first.
DeleteAnd I'm pretty sure if Thomas goes to Emma's family, it still won't be enough. Y'all will find something else to hold against him. All I know is, if this story doesn't end with Thomas going to jail and Hope turning her back on him, there will be some angry people here.
Yeah however that sentence makes zero sense if one really thinks about it. He didn't say anything because people would think he did it - that's a given, doesn't give you a free pass. And the second part then contradicts it on top - how does waiting years make it better? If anything people are much more pissed and critical like this. He is not glad it is coming out. If he wanted it to come out, he could have done it himself without any Xander ghosts reemeeging to haunt him at any point in the past years.
DeleteI don't care and I don't think anyone on the show will care he told Hope "first". His "first" is so late that it can't get any more late.
And I'm sorry that Thomas has given us five lifetimes of sins to hold against him 😅 I personally don't want him in jail but more than anything know that nobody goes to jail in this family, so it's naive to hope that. I do hope Thope ends and I believe it is coming.
I will dig my post to you elle i wrote it once
DeleteThat if thomas come clean one day and give emma’s family a closure about their daughter, and that she died because she was trying to do the right thing not because she is a reckless driver
She is a hero
But the whole truth of course
And the rest of the things be did
The fake letter, scar Douglas, drug liam etc
So he starts with her clean even if that means losing her so for me he is really changed
But sure you think and assume that about us even when we write the opposite
But I guess you think we are like you
Although brook’s past is nothing compared to thomas
And she paid for it
While her past is like steffy’s and Taylor’s
But still for you guys that past will never go away but yet how come Thomas’s is brought up
But no we will not hold his past against him when he take responsibility and redeem himself like really
Not by behaving for a while and save a fashion line
And Emma's family does not have closure? A full investigation was done and it was determined that Emma died by her own recklessness. What other closure is there? Justin never seemed to be pained or grieved or in mourning for his niece. I have to take it that they all moved on after the investigation was complete and the case closed. Why would anyone want closure after an accident?
DeleteAs for the rest - "the whole truth" - it seems Thomas is the ONLY character that has to list all of his past 'sins.' And for what? So that those who hate him can now like him? Somehow, I don't think that is ever going to happen. Or maybe so people can say "Ah, finally Thomas has confessed?" Then what?
"But I guess you think we are like you" Why would I think that? Who is talking about Brooke? Certainly not me. I don't hold on to Brooke's past or bring it up every chance I get the way people hold on to Thomas' past and bring it up every chance they get.
"Not by behaving for a while and save a fashion line" Thomas came back to HFTF "a changed man" in April 2023. That's when Hope started noticing him. Thomas was on his best behaviour when Hope kissed him in June 2023. I remember back then one of you LFs stating that a year has to pass before anyone can say that he is changed, that it was too soon then to say he is changed. Well, it's January. April is 3 months away. If he continues behaving until then, it will be a full year. I'm not going to hold my breath though because, as I said before, Thomas can do all that y'all are saying and it still won't be enough.
And by the by, Thomas did more than save a fashion line. He saved Liam and Bill from going to prison for a very long time by telling Hope the truth about what Vinny did. But noone likes to acknowledge that Thomas did good. When Liam was trying to come between Finn and Steffy recently, Thomas stood up for Finn and reminded Liam that his sister has a great husband who loves her and is devoted to her. Yet, here is Finn stabbing Thomas in the back and Thomas has not made a single threat. But noone wants to admit that Thomas is handling things differently either. A testament to the ongoing therapy he is undergoing. But anyhoo..... goodnight ladies!
DeleteElle 👏👏👏!
DeleteMmmmmm he saved them from something he was the cause of it
DeleteIts the least he could do
And it was a hit and run for liam to go to jail for it although he served some time along with bill
And the police themselves decided that the time bill spent at jail was enough because he hid the evidence
Liam didn’t kill vinny or caused his death do why he should pay for it
And didn’t thomas after that went back to his manipulations and using his son
Not much for a "changed man"
So yes he did a good thing and good for him but that’s doesn’t mean he is redeemed
And how come that’s a closure
DeleteReally,
Knowing the truth of how their daughter died that’s a closure
And she didn’t die of a reckless driving
She died because thomas was chasing her
Anything thomas will do will be enough for you actually
But for me him or others and what redemption is actually about is so different
As i said when someone really seeks redemption they confess their misdeeds
All of it with what really happened
To all the people they hurt and made amends
Not chose some of it because someone is after them
Are you saying that Thomas was the cause of Vinny commiting suicide and framing Liam for his murder??? Because: No. Absolutely not. That came from Vinny's twisted mind. All Thomas did was complain to his friend. Even Liam did not blame Thomas for that.
DeleteI read only a small portion of the comments above.
DeleteElle, you have got to be kidding. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
You’ seem to have moved on from your distracted driving theory after Thomas fully admitted today they were driving fast, and he was chasing her on a dark and windy road. But you said above that the reason Emma died (your position today) is that she was driving too fast and lost control and went off the side of the mountain road.
But the obvious question is now and has always been…..
Why was Emma driving so fast and why did she ultimately lose control - BECAUSE THOMAS WAS CHASING HER !!!! She never would have been driving like that otherwise. What part of ‘she was being chased’ is so difficult to understand ??? I did see somewhere where you mentioned the distance of his car with relation to hers and if he was so close she wouldn’t have been blinded by his lights. But that is an absolute false statement. I have first hand experience with this situation. I have multiple routes I take when driving home from work. If the freeway is all backed up, then I take a narrow, windy side road. It’s got hairpin turns and it’s through hills. And when it’s dark outside, that road is pitch black. About 6 months ago, I was on that alternate route to get home and this person was up my butt, and I was so stressed out because his lights were blinding me from behind and the road itself is already dangerous enough as it is. The difference between my situation and Emma’s is that the person behind me wasn’t “chasing me.” Had they been, that drive could have turned out very differently. I can’t believe after Thomas’s admission to Hope today you are still defending him!
Did Thomas murder Emma ?? NO.
Was Thomas a huge part of why Emma died that night ?? 100% YES!!!
The girl was terrified for God’s sake!
Either way, whether he is a better man or not now has zero to do with his accountability for the accident. And he absolutely deserves to be held accountable. Just because some time has passed or because he’s less evil now, does not get him off with no penalty for his actions!!
Im saying vinny did it as a favor to thomas
DeleteNot what you thought
Okay, I just find it a little ridiculous that some of the folks here won't give Thomas credit for doing anything good, ever. My take is: he's not totally evil, and he's not totally good. He's grey. He's morally ambiguous. Which makes him a more interesting character, in my opinion. Why can't we just admit that sometimes Thomas does good stuff, and sometimes he does bad stuff???
DeleteLynn its not a first degree murder for sure
DeleteBut its still is
He wanted to tell her before xander find her and tell her
Ridge told him that it was indifferent to him that she died which is true
And the timing of him telling her is really important
If emma’s death was weighting him so why didn’t he told her before since he proposed shouldn’t he tell her everything to start clean ?
And that excuse of no one can survive this is beyond disgusting to even praise him for it
The irony is hope feel guilty for emma’s death till this day but not him
Let us if he will tell that he was happy she died
Isn’t threatening some that if they speak they will end up like her is really an unofficial admission that he did it
I hope zander will tell her
Anyway let us see what else he will admit on Monday
Maybe he is really changed
Mmysh, the only reason I am saying it wasn’t murder is because the Thomas lovers get wrapped around the axle when people use that word.
DeleteAnd generally when I think of murder, I think of someone deliberately trying to end someone’s life. In the case with the car going off the road, I believe that Thomas definitely wanted to stop her from getting to Hope, but I don’t believe he actually intended to kill her. So that’s why I don’t think he murdered her in the true sense. But it was definitely because of him that she crashed. So I would consider what Thomas did as manslaughter. And you definitely serve time in prison for manslaughter. He was wreckless and caused her to crash. The accident NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if Thomas hadn’t been chasing after her.
Ren Chen, in my opinion Thomas is waaaaaaay more than grey. Even the most evil people have a good day sometimes and do something nice. Being evil doesn’t require you to be evil 24 / 7. It’s like Finn said, “Thomas, the things you’ve done aren’t little missteps. You are a BAD PERSON!” That’s what I believe to be true.
DeleteAnd like many of us keep saying….its been real easy for Thomas to play nice while everything in his life is going exactly how he’s wanted it. Now that the chips are down, we can watch and see how he handles things over the next weeks. He’s gonna revert back. And the “real Thomas” as Liam called him, will rear his ugly head again. I’m betting on it!
I got what you are saying lynn and i agree
DeleteAnd that’s why there is a first degree murder and second degree and manslaughter etc
But i think him being happy that she is dead and didn’t call for help it still psychotic, evil and disgusting
Its not only wrong like some try to sugarcoat it because they can’t deny it
Lynn, indeed it will be interesting to see what happens with Thomas in the next couple of weeks. I think/hope the writers are committed to showing that Thomas has changed, so I honestly don't think that psycho Thomas will be back. 🤞 But Lord knows my predictions about this show have been wrong before. 🤷♀️
DeleteRen chen we did actually praised him back then
DeleteThat period were one of the time i liked watching him
And i thought maybe he will redeem himself one day
But then he het back to his true self
Not only with the CPS call storyline
Im not a fan of steffy at all but you can if you want see my comments on some episodes praising her when she does something good and call my favorite out when they screw up
Not making excuses and defend them blindly
And we only bring up thomas’s past when it’s related to episode not on daily basis like some posters likes to claim
Mmysh, fair enough.
DeleteRen Chen, we’ve all been wrong about predictions. 😊😊
DeleteI’m just so anxious for this Thope thing to be done and buried that mine is a hope first and a prediction second.
You are nice to chat with. You seem very reasonable in your approach.
On an unrelated note….i think John McCook’s acting right now is very realistic. He really nailed it today as far as what we would expect an older person recovering from major surgery to look like.
DeleteThanks Lynn!
DeleteIndeed lynn
DeleteYesterday we had a conversation me and Ren and it was nice and interesting chat 💕
And yes about john (eric) his acting is beyond brilliant and amazing
DeleteHe make you believe that he is really recovering from a surgery
"she died because she was trying to do the right thing not because she is a reckless driver
DeleteShe is a hero"
Mmysh this is one of the most accurate things said on the topic. Emma's family thinks, as Steffy likes putting it, Emma died "because of her own reckless driving". They don't know that a maniac was chasing her to stop her from telling a mother her baby is alive. They absolutely deserve to know that. And Jason was shown grieving of course! He is not a main character to have episode after episode of him only but he was devastated. And if he wasn't what? He doesn't deserve to know? Or her parents because we never saw them? Come on!!
And yes Thomas does have sins aka CRIME more than anyone. They are not slutting around. They are physical violence, attempted SA, child abuse, drugging. All things that can land you in jail if you weren't from the "right" family.
Lynn I really love this distinction: "Being evil doesn’t require you to be evil 24 / 7"
DeleteAnd "Just because some time has passed or because he’s less evil now, does not get him off with no penalty for his actions!!"
The glimpses of decency Elle mentioned are all well and good but are drops in an ocean. He has to face consequences for at least some of the undiscovered crimes (esp for Emma). Time passing is not an argument to forget what he's done.
Thank you milla
DeleteIt really sad for me actually that even if this is a soap
Some can blame the victim still while they know all the facts
I can't wait for next week 🤩 even though the spoilers don't sound particularly exciting I'm so happy this story is getting attention. Even what has happened so far - things coming out about that night - is amazing. Emma was not forgotten. I hope we get more of Xander.
DeleteIt’s funny, Mmysh is now admitting Thomas didn’t “murder” Emma, yet all she has said in the past in her monotonous comments, is “Thomas is a blah blah blah, murderer??? 🤔🤔🥱🥱🥱
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DeleteSecond degree murder is still a murder and he still a psychopath
DeletePay attention colly its not that hard to understand my comment
Im not admitting he didn’t murder her
And please stop addressing me
And don’t like engaging with you
Stop obsessing over my comments
Its boring 🥱
🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteIts the same to you D 👶
DeleteMmmm so when she 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 at Mandy or annimae, it’s OK, but if someone laughs at her comment they are a baby?? righty O then!! We know who’s boss🫡🫡🫡🤣🤣🤣
DeleteColly and D was there any other purpose to your comments on this thread other than to start drama here too? Because if there was, it's not visible.
DeleteMilla, you say that as if am responsible for everything that many others said well before I said anything today, and even on days people say things and I am not even here, it will somehow come back to me? 🤣🤣🤣 But as usual, I am the culprit because I am usually the one who doesn’t take the crap unfairly dished out to me or others!! 🤣🤣🤣 the day you question Mmysh for doing the same to Mandy every comment she makes and to annimae and all others she has left the infamous laughing emoji’s to, or insulted or criticised etc etc, then feel free to question others!! But that clearly won’t happen!!
DeleteAnd you doing it too makes it better how exactly?
DeleteAnd I don't see any drama on this thread until you came in it. Or am I missing someone bickering or complaining here?
DeleteNo milla you are not missing anything
DeleteIt’s exactly what happened
I was defending a friend, just like you ladies defend each other!! No different to what you ladies do!! But see what I was saying!! when someone else defends their friends, we are trying to cause trouble?? When you ladies defend each other, especially when your defending one being nasty to another person, it’s seems to be a different story, another point proven!
DeleteHere in this thread you were not defending anyone because nobody needed to be defended here. Nothing dramatic was happening if you read, nobody was asking or needing "defense". In the other thread I agree good for everyone for standing up for Ren Chen. But here it’s starting or perpetuating the drama from below.
DeleteMilla, I made the comment that Mmysh changed her stance from outright murderer to manslaughter.. Mmysh responded by her usual manner when someone says something to her, by telling me to pay attention, and to stop “obsessing” over her?? Really!! D responded as she found her response amusing, and it’s absolutely ok with you, that Mmysh can respond exactly that way to many many others, on a regular regular basis with no other reason than to mock those people, but she and you don’t like if someone returns the same thing back to her?? You jump to her defense for something she does to others ALL the time, and she also implied D was a baby for doing it, yet she can freely do it, nothing is said to her by anyone most of the time, and now it’s a big issue, because someone did it to her, you jump to her defense, so I merely defended D!! But obviously I am not allowed to defend my mates?? Again, point proven!! There is a reason everyone has issues with a certain person Milla, and NO, I am NOT the resin they do, despite sha Mmysh and you may like to think.. so if I am not allowed to defend my mates, then please refrain from defending yours..
DeleteMilla its good the comments and how the comments are written are all here for others to see, im totally satisfied
DeleteDon’t bother yourself dear
And thanks 🙏
Sorry Mmysh but no.
DeleteColly there wouldn't have been anything for Mmysh to react to if you hadn't come TO A VERY PEACEFUL THREAD with a comment that was CLEARLY meant to mock and provoke her (monotonous comment - wtf?! And the yawns) and NOT to ask an actual question because you actually wanted to know. Imagine if I had simply asked Mmysh "Mmysh did you change your view about the murder?" Do you think she would have asked me to not address her? You see clearly that I addressed the things that bother me to her (thread below) and there is no drama. And no I have not seen her jump in your peaceful thread with multiple other people to say "what about your usual monotonous whatever?"
Here you absolutely are the reason a peaceful conversation is no longer such.
And yes a comment that is only laughing emojis and adds no other value deserves a response with only emoji. It's been done to her too.
DeleteAnd you keep demanding that I somehow address all her comments. That would be the same if I now drag Elle here and say "Elle why you addressing Mmysh behavior but not Colly's?" I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's how blogs work. I'm not a teacher to police all the children equally. I'm on a blog where I defend when I feel like and criticize behavior when it bugs ME. Just like you do. And yes I'll defend her the same way you defend D.
DeleteMmysh good for you for taking the high road. Proud of you.
DeleteIt’s funny Milla, I have had Mmysh do that to me in the past, and seen her do that to others in the past, many times, but it really is a different story when it’s done to her.. but of course nothing is said.. However, you are right Milla, what I did was wrong!! And I should not have done it!! I don’t like the way things have gone on this blog, and I want peace on here.. as I said I will do my part in making this blog a better place for everyone..
DeleteI'm so glad Thomas *finally* confessed to Hope! Now what he needs to do to prove he's sincerely sorry is go find Emma's family and confess everything to them. Even though he would be risking possible legal action. That would prove to Hope and everyone else that he really is a changed man. And it would bring Justin back on our screens, which would be a nice side benefit. I think that's his only hope of keeping Hope. Most of all I do NOT want to see another "woman in peril" storyline where Thomas goes off the deep end and kidnaps Hope and she has to be saved by Liam or Finn. That trope has been done to death by daytime soaps. I'm still rooting for Thope!
ReplyDeleteI'm really proud of Thomas too. He's committed to proving he's changed and to be the man that Hope deserves. Bravo!
DeleteEll, no matter what Thomas does or does not do, it will never be good enough for some!! He confessed to getting into an argument with Emma, chasing after her, being at the scene, even not calling for help, knowing full well he could very possibly lose Hope over it… yet he told her , the old Thomas would not have!! He would have gone after Xander, caused trouble between Steffy and Finn to get rid of Finn, and turned back to his dark side, all of which Liam is hoping for, if what Aussie Deb said is true about Liam sneakily bringing Xander back to cause all this, so he gets both Thomas and Finn out of his way without looking like the bad guy and preventing Thomas going after him!!
DeleteAnd I believe you were correct Elle, Thomas told Hope first as he wanted her to hear it from him, not Steffy or Finn..
DeleteElle, when all Thomas’s misdeeds were being brought up about all of the things in his past, and how he has tried to murder Rick which was brought up then and again today, which was waaaay in the past, and none of the Logan’s have tried to murder or do anything like Thomas, I brought up that Brooke tried to shoot Stephanie, and that it was attempted murder, and I was told the excuse that “Stephanie wasn’t worried about it nor was anyone else”, so that’s how it’s different?? The fact she missed is the only reason Stephanie is alive, and I was she was frustrated at Stephanie, and that situation is very different to Thomas, and that it was from decades ago, so I guess, it really is different for some people on this blog to make excuses and bring things up from the past, but not others.. The rules seem to be made up as we go in line with who can and who can’t do or say what??!! So LF’s, how far back can you guys go versus the rest of the people on the blog??
DeleteIn fact this is the exact comment made to me when I brought up Brooke’s misdeeds and proves my points…
Delete“ Yeah Brooke in a heat of moment shot at Stephanie and missed, nobody not even Stephanie cared about this. Only Brooke haters on this blog who need something to suck out of their fingers to compare the horror which Thomas deliberately caused to multiple people over years with. And the baby thing is older than all of us together. It was the damn baby's mom to tell, not on Brooke. It's like comparing me blowing air through my lips and a hurricane. Sure both is air moving, so same 🤷🏻♀️”
That’s what you get when you are someone that is not a LF and part of the “we”, who brings up the past!! I didn’t insult anyone in my comment, just responded to one who said the Logan’s havnt done wrong like Thomas over the past decades, and that’s what I got back!! Point proven!!
Okay Colly I'll give you the shot. I'll take a 30-year old shot over about a dozen premeditated attempts where ppl actually got in hospitals, any day. But you win. There was one shot fired some time in the Clinton administration. Peace.
DeleteHow long ago was it that Thomas was the Thomas going to murder Rick thing?? My point in my original post was that it was said Logan’s have never committed the crimes Thomas has, I disagreed and pointed out Brooke has done the some of the same things.. it doesn’t matter “when” Milla, it matters that Brooke did try to shoot Stephanie, how is that different, and she did try to hide from ridge Thomas was his son, and make him believe Bridget was his by manipulating and lying, and because I showed some of her actions are no different to some of his, you throw that at me!! Nice!! Who is making excuses for who, and defending who??!!
DeleteTo me it will always boil down to "so what?" None of what Brooke did comes closer to Thomas crimes. Say whatever secrets she kept, I don't care. It wasn't putting people in hospitals and drugging them and chasing them to their deaths. Thomas will always have the lead after Sheila in crime. So whatever about Brooke and the 90s.
DeleteI honestly will never understand why you are so fixated on this Thomas paternity (I suspect I wasn't even born when that was happening). So many people have not said so many things about other people's paternities. It is up to the mom. She should know who she slept with and make her tests and tell the dad's. Like Steffy always does.
DeleteNot to say that it wasn't wrong whatever Brooke did. I'm sure it was. But I'm also sure it didn't involve malicious and premeditated violence. Over and over through the years, on multiple characters. Brooke will never come close to Thomas. Noone will in the next years, I suspect. So okay, she hid whatever in the 90s. Bad Brooke.
DeleteTY Bob. Have a great weekend.
ReplyDeleteLet's recall Hope thought she had killed Thomas run to her mom not for help for Thomas.Brooke said keep quiet
ReplyDeleteSo how are they better than Thomas??
Thank you Bob xxxx
Yes they are. That took one night. And Brooke lost Ridge because of it. This took over five years. We are yet to see what consequences Thomas faces. Ah and what else... What else... Yeah... Nobody died there!
DeleteExactly milla
DeleteAnd hope was running from him because he was trying to force himself on her on other meaning rape her
And she didn’t push him
And she was dying because of guilt
And wanted to tell ridge right away
And as brook’s fans we always said that brook was totally wrong of giving her daughter that advice
We didn’t deny it or come up with lame excuses for her
And yet she told ridge anyway in matter of hours before even knowing that thomas is alive
And paid for it
Hope didn’t wanted Thomas dead or stood their watched him taking his last breath with joy and stayed there to make sure he’s gone
Then went home like nothing happened and used the tragedy for her advantage
So no its not the same
Mmysh, you pointed out a while back that the people who are saying Thomas didn’t cause Emma to crash should also say that Sheila didn’t cause Li to crash. Because you are correct, it is exactly the same thing!! But I don’t recall one single Thomas fan saying that Sheila was innocent when she was chasing Li, and Li plummeted into the water and almost died!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteIndeed lynn
DeleteI guess it serves them that Li didn’t die
Or we will be hearing that sheila killed her
it’s exactly the same circumstances
They got into a fight
Li managed to run
Sheila followed her and chased after her
Li crashed into the water and lived
emma crashed and died
Sheila didn’t call for help and had a smile on her face just like thomas
They even played the same soundtrack 😂😂😂😂
Sheila is guilty and evil
Thomas is only at wrong for not calling for help because he was scared that they will think he killed her 😂😂😂
Logic just left the building 🤣
Ah and one distinction to Thomas' little dip in a water - he knew exactly what Hope will think and hid away to torture her for the days she thought he dissolved. To "show her that people make mistakes". Leave it to Thomas to find the most demented and cruel way to "teach a woman a lesson". That's the kind of guy you marry indeed 🙄
DeleteIndeed milla
DeleteLucky for him this time he doesn’t have to drug her to consummate the marriage 😂😂😂😂
@Elle. Bravo👏👏👏
ReplyDeleteI thought your comments were straight to the point. It was nice to see some fresh input.
Unlike others where they were just rehashing the same old dialogue over and over. It seems that they listen to each other that much they begin to believe the BS being pushed out every day within each of their post.
It is looking like a lot of people are refraing from commenting anymore or as much because of this.
Of the 30 odd comments made today the majority came from a select few. Not only that, there were complete chapters written, I'm sure of it. You finish one chapter then straight into another one. 🥺
And you would be correct on that Aussie Deb. I refrain mostly because of the trio who feed off each other. Not so nice anymore with the name calling and mean comments. Thought it would be an open discussion forum. Not , their way or the highway.
DeleteThomas is the only character I've seen where his actions get dissected in tiny, wee pieces and he's scathed for each piece. It's not enough that he told Hope the truth, he should now tell Emma's family. Other than Justin, what family? It can't be proven that he ran Emma off the road so now, it's that he was chasing Emma and that's why she was speeding. I mean, it would make sense that Emma just pull to the side if she wanted to text Hope so badly. And now, he's even responsible for Vinny's sick actions like he planned the whole thing with Vinny. That's why I say that Thomas can do everything right and it still won't be enough.
DeleteDebbie, the debates have become tiresome. They really aren't fun anymore when you're constantly insulted about your comments not making any sense or that you're not being logical, or that you must support murderers in real life.
DeleteThat's why I usually just ignore the comments. This is not the forum to go to for a balanced perspective.
DeleteLadies agreed!! Others opinions don’t count, they constantly get told they are wrong, and then are called names, told they are sick and pathetic, and then their character and morals in reality are questioned!! Or they get mocked.. the infamous 🤣🤣🤣🤣 even when not responding to them.. but should you respond to them with something they don’t like, you get read the rights of the blog, “don’t comment unless you are spoken to”!!! it’s also stated they don’t bring the past up every day like others unless it’s related to the current days episode?? What a load of crock!! One brings it up not once day but in almost every comment, related or not, it’s there and everyone sees it, I find it hilarious when they deny it.. If you bring up the past well it’s thrown in your face!! And despite CONSTANTLY being told by other posters how they treat others is terrible, including from people who generally don’t even come here for all the reasons above, and people leaving the blog because of the gang 🤣🤣🤣 they go into denial, that’s it’s not them that’s the problem, it’s everyone else who has the problem 🤣🤣🤣 that’s the funniest part of all!! If someone says something, they are playing the victim or a troll?? They defend each other with a vengeance, but if someone not part of the gang defends themselves or someone else, they get told off for it!! The rules are selective and apply only if they say so??!! So no, it’s not fun for many, only a certain few, oh, I mean, a certain “we”!! 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteWatch, now I will get , don’t be a coward, say my name!! Ok Mmysh, yes you are one and mostly who I am referring to! 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteColly, yes I agree. I used to think it was fun to read through all the comments. Not anymore. Arguing with random people online is not my thing.
DeleteI think colly needs her pills 😞
DeleteSuch a bitter pathetic bully
But i got you truth is bitter to swallow
😂😂😂😂
And ren chen if our commnts bother you that much don’t engage with us
DeleteNo need for the double face 👍
Ladies above comments👏👏👏. It's becoming monotonous. We get the point. Thomas is an evil, pathetic, psychopath murderer who can't do nothing right. Hope is the biggest naive idiot on the show..we hear it everyday.
DeleteAnd there you go Colly. You're a pathetic bully.
Delete😂😂😂
Ren Chen?? Now see why no one else will engage in comments.
I agree, there are more Logan fan comments on the blog these days. But I think it has less to do with the three of us ‘bullies’ taking over the blog, and more to do with the current storylines.
DeleteColly, I know I’ve said this many times (you will be the first to tell me that Lol), but I’m gonna say it again anyway…..
When I first came on this blog years ago, it felt exactly like you ladies are describing it today. There were a group of three who ruled the blog….and I was the outsider with very different opinions. I wasn’t shy about my opinions (never have been…lol) and I felt like it wasn’t OK to even say what I thought or I would get ‘straightened out’ by the three who ruled the blog. It was very hostile back then. Yes, I definitely contributed to that hostility. Not trying to claim innocence. But it for sure wasn’t just me. Plenty of really nasty comments came my way as well.
Well now, years later….there are three (myself included) who seem to dominate in most days comments. But I genuinely believe that has more to do with the present storylines as I said above. The show currently shows that Thomas could be in deep trouble, so I don’t think the Thomas fans are wanting to comment as much. I could be wrong, but that’s my observation.
I really meant it when I said I was going to try to be less nasty to people I don’t agree with….New Year’s Resolution. And I will continue to try to do that.
But there is one person on this blog “Little u” as she is known to me that I will continue to attack if she comes at me. Certain groups of us have been called evil women by this troll. And that crosses a line that should never be crossed.
Aside from her, I dont recall being over the top rude to anyone with differing ideas. I will always have strong opinions….that’s just who I am. But I’ve really tried to keep from making it personal.
And just to add one more thing to the book I wrote above (lol)….
Other blogs get very hostile too. This one seems no different in terms of the amount of disagreement.
D, yep! Exactly! It's all very. . . predictable.
DeleteRen Chen, I’m sorry you feel that way. Just yesterday we had a very reasonable back and forth discussion.
DeleteWell lynn its so obvious who starts the hostility here
DeleteThen come and play the victim
At least we we gang to comment about the characters but some here gang to comment about us
But the truth is always bitter to swallow
And it seems the truth about a fictional character offends some
And what is funny we don’t see these comments addressed to unknown with little u since its a fan of tommy boy and then some come and preach us about it
Just don’t read our comments and don’t reply to us
Its so simple
Don’t come and do the bullying then except nice words
Just don’t reply to our comments like we don’t reply to urs
But apparently some can’t help themselves
Then they whine and cry
🥱🥱🥱🥱
Oh Mmysh 🤣🤣🤣🤣 u never see anyone complain about the way anyone else treats people on this blog!! But you and “we”, are told off for the way u treat others on almost a daily basis!! And still you are in denial!! It’s you that can’t really handle the truth!! 🤣🤣🤣 it cracks me up every time!! And what is it you always say?? “pay more attention” love, it wasn’t me who started anything today, I just added to it, but it’s ok, “if it makes you feel better”, put it on me, unlike you, I can take it without getting nasty!! U really do prove my point every time!! 🤣🤣🤣 and you really do have a HUGE ego love, and without your “we”, you really are just a bitter bully behind a keyboard!! 😘😘
DeleteYeah keep fooling yourself with that
DeleteI pitty you actually
Snd it’s obvious in the comments how and when the hostility starts
Anyway im not gonna waste my time on u
Just please stop the obsession over me and my comments
Just don’t read them
Have some dignity 🤷♀️
D, what’s new love!! 🤣🤣🤣 Of course I am a pathetic bully playing the victim, and we see that firstly, I started it as usual, even when I don’t, and I am bitter, then next comment is to someone else, well if you don’t like “us” or our comments, then don’t read, then it goes back to me?? 🤣🤣🤣 oh-o, am I sounding like I am acting like the victim?? 🤣🤣🤣the most I get out of this blog these days is a good laugh or a nana nap🤣🤣🥱🥱
DeleteMmysh 🤣🤣🤣 yes love, you have become SO important and influential on this blog, that it can’t be any other reason, other than, I, and everyone else who does not like you or your attitude, and won’t bow down to you, MUST just be “obsessed”with you!!🤣🤣🤣
DeleteAnd you still replying
Delete😂😂😂😂😂
Just have some dignity will you 🤭
Take care i don’t want to cause you some mental harm 😉
What the hell did we do again that this starts? Isn't commenting under my thread okay anymore that another thread is started to complain about us again?
DeleteLynn I must admit I have seen your growth in the past years in terms of commenting, I used to like you before but now I actually love you. I don't think you use bad derogatory language or disgusted emojis and your comments are factual. Maybe it's a good idea for Thomas opposers and Thomas fans to comment separately. No side will convince the other of the opposite and that's OKAY.
I am fine either way, I don't think I've had a personal offensive back and forth with anyone, but for the peace of everyone that is my suggestion.
P.S If you've noticed it's only Thomas that divides now 😅when it comes to RJ, Zende, Bill and Luna paternity and Poppy and the other snoozish storylines we are on the same page 😀
DeleteActually milla that’s exactly what im doing
DeleteI don’t comment or even read or engage with some of thomas fans
But here we are
And we had peace in the last days until you know someone is back 😂
I directly asked colly don’t engage or read my comments but that’s apparently never gonna happen
Milla, I agree with you about Lynn. I've seen her efforts as well.
DeleteLynn, speaking for myself, it's much appreciated. 😊
I will third that!! Lynn, even the way you responded to this thread, was impressive love!! And it truly is much appreciated!!
DeleteThank you for saying that, ladies.
DeleteAt the end of the day, we have a group of intelligent women who disagree with each other on who is right and who is wrong about Thomas and Brooke. Those two characters seem to draw the most criticism as Milla said above.
Brooke has been pretty low key lately, so the spotlight has been on Thomas. I’m sure the writers will swing it back the other way before too long. And round and round it goes.
Maybe we can agree to disagree but also establish some boundaries. What are the buzzwords that really cause all this dissension ?
For me….I’ve always been triggered by the “Slut from the Valley” or “Whore” comments.
Maybe you ladies could identify your buzz words if you have some? And I would be willing to stay away from those words when commenting if reasonable.
When I came back on this morning to see comments, it was like an explosion had gone off. An outsider looking in would think we should all seek counseling!! Lol.
Anyway, this blog should never create that much stress. I had to learn that the hard way.
Hope everyone has a great rest of the weekend. 😊
I'm probably going to regret leaving this comment, but here goes . . . Lynn, I agree, you didn't cross any lines with your comments towards me. My frustration is more with Mmysh. (And now I've really opened the door by calling her out specifically, and that's the part I'm going to regret 😬.) I just don't see why there has to be this snarky, mean undertone in the way you, Mmysh, comment towards others. Your comments towards me were fine. The response I can predict: "if it doesn't have anything to do with you, then stay out if it." Okay, yes, obviously I should have. And "if you don't like it, then don't interact with me on the blog." Again, yes, that was a mistake on my part. I think I'm gonna go back to my prior policy regarding this blog: just consult it to watch the episodes, and skip reading the comments.
DeleteRen Chen I don't think you should shy away from commenting on what you think of the show! You see me and Colly and me and Elle butt virtual heads on characters often. There are some things that we will never agree on and that's fine! Especially if you do find like-minded commenters, you definitely shouldn't stay away if it's fun for you.
DeleteRen chen
DeleteWe had a discussion and it was interesting and good
It was all about the CHARACTERS
And i even said it was nice
But then i don’t know why you felt the need to participate with the personal attacks colly started and sure d follows
It was disappointing abd sorry like a double faces
If you like Thomas you are entitled to that none of my business
But i don’t he disgust me in all levels just like sheila
So if my opinion of him offends you just don’t read my comments ot reply to them like i do with thomas fans unless they address me
So it was ok with you to others attacking me as long as they share you opinion
I did no wrong with you only a discussion about the characters and then you participated in the personal attacks so no that’s wasn’t nice
So please don’t lecture me while i did nothing to you
And yeah its better not to engage with each other
But thanks anyway
Aaaaaand . . . That's my cue to leave. Y'all have fun now!
DeleteRen Chen, I don’t think you should go. I think Mmysh felt that bullying was happening and you felt personal attacks were coming your way. But I also noticed that you ladies were able to talk very civilly toward each other. 👍🏻👍🏻
DeleteYou gotta do what’s best for you. But you are always welcome here.
The personal attacks are what bothers me. The 19 - 20 minutes of the show gives us a brief pause from our hectic and stressful lives so, when you try to discuss it but people come after you about your personal beliefs, values, morals, it takes the fun out of it.
DeleteAs for the name-calling of the characters, I don't have an issue with it as long as what is being said is true. For example, Thomas never raped anyone so calling him a rapist is not true.
Ren Chen, you have the ability of being objective and staying focused on current storylines. It's refreshing. Please don't let one person make you leave, especially when the rest of us are willing to do better in order to make this blog a comfortable and welcoming place for all.
DeleteMilla 😊🤗❤️
DeleteLynn, you're welcome. 😊
DeleteElle you know I love you too, right? ❤️
DeleteWell he is to me Elle
DeleteA man who attempted to use drug to sleep with a women but didn’t succeed is a rapist to me sorry
Im entitled to see the characters action as i fit and you do too
And we all who that one person is
There was no drama in the past days and it’s obvious why
And sorry elle i really want thus to end but you saying don’t let one person make you leave, si you put the blame on me alone is not acceptable just because that person shares your opinion
Elle, I understand. Personal attacks aren’t right. I will do my best to stay away from them.
DeleteSometimes I think we are all just misunderstood.
I guess the reason the SFTV thing bothers me so much is because Brooke hasn’t slept with anyone else but Ridge in many years. But since it was a phrase that was actually used on the show itself, I probably shouldn’t get as bothered by it as I do.
As far as Mmysh’s perspective….
As someone from the outside who read the comments this morning it came across as multiple people were coming at her all at once. It felt like she was being singled out in a gang attack (I’m guessing.).
So I will commit to not making it ‘personal’ on this blog unless someone starts calling me names out of the blue, in which case I will always defend myself.
And still rooting for Ren Chen not to give up on this blog just yet. Lol
DeleteThanks lynn it was all like usual discussion and arguments then colly comes and out if the blue starts attacking me a d then some follow
DeleteThanks to elle actually for not participating but then sadly she put it only on me while its obvious fir any outsider to see who started all that
It always the case
We see little u unknown attacking us all the time we never saw colly standing up to it, only BB fan did once although unknown is a thomas fan
So some here should starts practicing what they breach and stop starts the hostility and then play the victim
I asked her multiple and multiple of times to not read my comments if she doesn’t likes them like i do her’s
But its in vain and from time to time we have this war
Anyway i know what i commented and the comments are here anyway to anyone to check
Milla, ❤️
DeleteMmysh, ❤️
DeleteLynn ❤️❤️
DeleteThanks for saying that, Milla. Grandson's baby dedication was yesterday. As soon as I get the photos, I'll share. He's getting so big so fast!
DeleteMmysh, I wasn't blaming you. I was responding to Ren Chen who inferred that you would make her leave.
DeleteBut if I'm to be honest, I've been staying away because of this current storyline with Thomas. Not because I cannot support or defend him but because, if I do, you would come on here and attack everything I say. We've been down this Emma road too many times. I simply don't want to rehash the same argument over and over everyday.
It's interesting what Lynn said about the person on the outside looking in. It would make me wonder why everyone is coming down on this one person.
Elle again both of us are entitled to our opinions
DeleteI always avoid replying to anyone of you guys
I will not change my beliefs of any of the character’s behavior or the emma‘s story because it is sensitive to me, for anyone
I will write my opinion as i see fit
And if some some don’t like it its totally fine with me and its doesn’t matter
And sure anyone has the sane right as me
Its so simple
But take a look at the comments
You replied to my comments and i replied to you accordingly and that was it
And would you please explain the last sentence you said
If you weren’t referring to me so what your last sentence means
And just a correction not everyone were coming at me
It was only the ones who don’t like my opinions about thomas especially and steffy and Taylor and from time to time they starts attacking me PERSONALLY for it
Mmysh, I don't think you're quite understanding what I (or anyone) has said. It's not your opinions I have a problem with. I can debate your opinions just fine. However, you act as though your opinions are sound, factual statements and anyone who has a different opinion is either pathetic, has no morals for supporting a character like Thomas or support murderers in real life. These are all things you've said to me and others. Not because it's sensitive to you gives you the right to lash out at me or other posters here. And if it's that sensitive to you, I suggest you not get wrapped up in it the way you do. Just to be clear, I'm not telling you what to do. It's just a suggestion.
DeleteMy last statement, again, was not a dig at you. I was responding to Lynn who talked about the outsider looking in.
Maybe they attack you personally because it's what you do all the time to others. You can't do it to others whenever you feel like it but don't like when it's done to you. But that's just my observance.
I completely agree with everything that everyone is saying, but, I will not tolerate Mmysh blaming me for being the one who attacked her!! Yes I added my feelings and defended a friend, however, many many others on this blog feel the same way and it’s not me they have the issue with!! And I am not responsible for the way Mmysh treats other people on here and her behaviour… It’s very evident, and it has been said, and is true people are leaving for that reason, and many many have spoken up about the personal attacks they receive from Mmysh.. it’s not just me, and I did not start anything today, and I will not be responsible for how others feel.. that is all on Mmysh… But I will say I completely agree with Lynn, Elle, Milla and Ren Chen, this all needs to stop, and I too will do my part to try and make this blog civil again… I would hate for Ren Chen or anyone else to leave the blog.. too many have left already.. So I will do my part to making this an enjoyable blog to be on!!
DeleteSorry elle
DeleteI call some those names after they attacked me over my opinion
But if some take my comments or words about the characters as it is about them i guess its their problem not mine
I never said that you support murderets in real life
I said soap or reality FOR ME its the same
I don’t defend some deeds here because its soap
Its still bad deeds TO ME
So if again some took my words the wrong way again not my issue
If my opinion (which is like yours and you state it as a fact also )
Bothers anyone just don’t read it
Simply
But some should not attack and starts drama masked with selective standing up against bullying ( which is not bullying but anyway)
Then when they got a reply matches their behavior they play the victim
And preach other about things they invented
Its simple as that
Bbfan, if you are reading the comments, please come back love!! We miss you!!🥰
DeleteApropos buzz words that Lynn mentioned - mine is "pathetic" and "playing the victim" and "take your pills" towards each other. It can be a good start to not say this to each other. It doesn't help anyone, Mmysh, it will never help to not feel attacked when people react to those things being said to them, it will only lead to more tension.
DeleteI am and will never be okay with these words even when they are not said to me.
And while those I can understand to an extent when they are said as a form of self-defense, the worst is of course the totally personal attacks that come out of nowhere because people are simply discussing between each other and others hate the form of camaraderie we share. There is absolutely no (self-)defense in addressing someone as bored housewife, saying they have no life or you all are lame or I don’t remember what else was recently said to us out of the blue.
Thanks milla I appreciate you and your friendship
DeleteYes, I got defensive and I shouldn’t have used those words but sorry some where go describe the situation
But its really getting frustrating with this style of some here
The same happened with lynn on the 07-of dec just same way and unknown got a 👍
Anyway thanks for the support and advice
But im sure this scenario will be repeated some time soon
Its always the case but this time i shouldn’t respond just handle the matter like its unknown
I can feel your frustration Mmysh and I know I have wanted to defend myself too. You know we support you and get you. I hope you also don't shy away from commenting now. Your knowledge, perspective and fun energy can't be replaced easily!
DeleteAfter reading the comments above, I think there is hope that we can all play nice! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteI read a book around Christmas time that talked about kindness toward others. The book really impacted me. And blogs are no different than everyday (real) life. Feelings can be hurt just as easily in cyberspace.
So for all the feelings I’ve hurt on this blog - I apologize.
Ladies, thank you for these comments ♥️ This is important ♥️ You are awesome ♥️
DeleteThomas fans has got so much shit in neck -that's what we say here in Finland. Thomas has been so nice lately. Everyone has their past. My ex wants to kill me but I know he has his good parts too. Almost no one is pure evil. And people can change, I have seen that in AA where I was with my ex. But they were drunk when did evil things, like my ex. Thomas is not an addict
DeleteI've been a little bit afraid commenting anything about Thomas because I'm hsp and taking comments deep in my heart. I'm afraid of being attacked
DeletePatologi, if Thomas comes clean to everyone (including the police)….and after this very rough time he is about to go through….if he doesn’t revert back to his old ways, then I will say that perhaps he’s truly changed. He simply hasn’t had to deal with enough real challenges to prove that at this point. He has had everything going great for him up until recently when Xander came back to town. Thomas hasn’t been “tested” to see if his true colors will come out in a long time. That’s the TRUE test.
DeleteIf after all this Emma stuff gets revealed to all, and Hope potentially dumps him….after all that if Thomas stays on the straight and narrow path, then I will be convinced he’s changed. It’s way way too early to tell that right now…..in my opinion.
All I can say is Finn is being a fool. He tell himself he wants his marriage, yells his mother he will do nothing to harm his marriage and his doing everything to harm his marriage no matter what the reasoning is.
ReplyDeleteNow Liam - couldn’t get Steffy so you are going for the other side with your tail between your legs with your sob story of how I care for you fan boi crap to Hope. Seriously.
Hope - either you’re in or you’re out. He’s a grown man; if it just the hit sex tell him. I’m sure he likes getting his rocks off too.
Steffy - get a boy toy. Take a lesson from the Sally Spectrum. She knew how to play with the boys and be a boss. She had a man eating from her shoes and her assistant, let alone Darla was amazing. Tired of you demeaning Finn.
Li - why? Why do you need to know everything about Finn’s life (and he’s stupid enough to tell you).
Eric - are you trying to recreate you and Stephanie with RJ and Luna. lol they are almost teenyboppers the way they act at times (writers need to up the maturity a bit if that’s what is the goal here).
Donna - where’s she gone?
Donna is at the Forrester mansion filling all the water pitchers because her Honey 🍯 Bear 🐻 is coming home!
DeleteLol..she must be panicked. She doesn't have time to visit him at the hospital.
DeleteWhy can't they lock the doors!! I love Thomas fans, they are on hard rocks these days on this blog ♥️ Brooke fans are grilling them, we'll say here in Finland 😁 I feel sorry for him 😭
DeleteHeard on the grapevine that maybe Liam is behind the return of Xander to stir the pot.
ReplyDeleteHe (Liam) is getting Xander to accuse Thomas of murder to get him out of Hope's life.
Also by feeding Finn with BS (where Finn has no right in getting involved) this leaves an opening for him to swoop on Steffi. Sounds far fetched? Not anymore than most of this dribble they are shoving down our. throats ATM.
I won't be surprised if this turns out to be true. When Hope told Liam about Xander being in town, he didn't seem all that surprised, if you ask me.
DeleteI agree that Liam is probably the pot stirrer. He warned Hope about Thomas and then said "trust me, it is coming". How would he know that if he didn't set things motion?
DeleteThat would not surprise me at all Deb, and I noticed that too Elle, he didn’t seem surprised at all.. I didn’t like how Liam just waltzed through the door without knocking as though he still lives there?? Too bad if Hope was in the middle of it with Thomas!! Liam can’t help but try to control Hope, and this, “ I will always love and care about you, sooo tell me everything” BS.. can’t stand Liam, and the way he has been since Rome, nothing he does would surprise me!! He kills two birds with one stone stone, get rid of both Thomas and Finn, he is becoming his father!! Soon he will be eating turkey drumsticks, raw off the bone!!
Delete🍖
DeleteLove the way Liam just barges in like he owns the place. It wouldn't surprise me either if he has something to do with Xander showing up and his comment to Hope about Thomas. Trust me, it's coming.
DeleteLiam barges in despite Hope telling him it's no longer his home. It's like he has to prove to her who's in control. He has taken his manipulation and control of Hope to another level.
DeleteIf it's really Liam behind this, Hope will not be pleased when she finds out. All of the scheming he's doing just might turn around and blow up in his face.
Agreed. Liam is a real piece of work these days! I said the exact same thing about the way he barged into the cabin. And maybe the most ridiculous thing about that was that he didn’t even seem to have a reason to be there. Just came busting in like he owned the place!! 😂😂😂😂
DeleteI don’t think he is in cahoots with Xander though. I think Liam is going to benefit from Xander coming back to town with his accusations about Thomas. But I didn’t get the impression that Liam played a part in Xander’s return.
DeleteI read something interesting from Scott Clifton (Liam) recently. He said that he has always felt that Thomas was the good guy given his devotion to Hope yet, he was written to be the bad guy. Liam was always the bad guy given his ping ponging between Steffy and Hope and how he has hurt them yet, he was written to be the good guy. He went on to say that he is really excited about Liam being the bad guy now by going to lengths to get what he wants.
DeleteThe suggestion that Liam might be behind Xander's return made me remember this interview. It's not at all far-fetched that he would do something like this.
Scott Clifton also has a new girlfriend who is 43 but looks 29 😅 yes I stalked 😁
DeleteHer name is Elle hehe 🥰 https://www.instagram.com/ellesmithanderson
DeleteShe does not look like 43. Wow! Unreal that she looks that good.
DeleteRight? I still can't believe it. The only reason I know is because of a pic from 2021 when she celebrated 40... #goals
DeleteFor some reason I can't open that link.
DeleteElle?? Is there something you're keeping from us? 😁
Mills 🤣🤣🤣 how old is Scott? D, 🤣🤣🤣 Thomas is more our Elles type 🥰 Lynn, I agree that it’s not that far fetched for Liam to bring Xander in, it’s funny how out of ALL the doctors, he makes an appointment with Finn, acting as though he didnt know he was married to Steffy.. Then we see him looking at the tabloids of Hope and Thomas!! Surely, he would have seen pics of Steffy and Finn too?? It’s no accident he went to Finn!!
DeleteColly he is 39, okay not so big now this age gap 😅 I somehow thought he was my age.
DeleteColly, I do like them tall, dark and handsome. 😂 😂 Alas, Thomas only has eyes for Hope and Matthew is taken. 😭😭
DeleteScott is definitely easy on the eyes though. 😍
Colly, I agree that the odds of Xander showing up at Finn’s office (out of all the doctors in LA) seems EXTREMELY remote. I’ll definitely give you that. Also, I don’t think he was even there for anything in particular. It’s not like he had symptoms of something he wanted to get checked out. So in that way, I agree it looks extremity suspicious.
DeleteBut here’s what makes me think he did not intentionally seek out Finn…..
When he saw the picture on Finn’s desk he looked genuinely surprised. And then he proceeded to tell Finn he would have to find another doctor. Finn is actually the one who convinced Xander to stay and be his patient. So that’s what I’m basing my assumption on. But we’ll see soon enough I suspect. 😊
Valid point Lynn!
DeleteGet tired of the Thomas problems
ReplyDeleteYes.. he is so unlucky always. He can never have a normal happy family life 😪
DeleteWhy always Thylor's children make a problems and Brooke 's are the Golden children
ReplyDeleteAgree!!!
DeleteIt's not fair. And Taylor is disliked person, Brooke is praised 🤔 Bell loves Brooke. I don't like her always because she has too much fans 🤣 She is the most loved at this serie and in this blog also. No one else of them has such many fans
DeleteI read that Justin is coming back to the show since the Emma tragedy is being reintroduced. Yay, Justin!! He’s a lawyer….so his role could be significant as far as seeing justice being served. There is speculation of a wrongful death lawsuit against Thomas and perhaps the Forrester family. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
ReplyDeleteLynn that's great! Also I read on Wed Wyatt is returning - what?? 🤩
DeleteOh that makes me happy about Wyatt! I miss him! I wish they’d bring Flo back too. I loved those two together.
DeleteI know about Wyatt but not justin
DeleteWould love to see Wyatt and his sense of humor back. Something new for a change.
DeleteI hope Wyatt actually gets a storyline instead of just being an ear for Liam. Wyatt is awesome - so funny!
DeleteLynn the article suggested that Wyatt will only make an appearance on Wed, but I'm also hoping he stays. Every storyline involving him was a good one ❤️
DeleteThank you Bob 😉💗🙏 you're the best 💙
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