The Bold and the Beautiful 1-16-24 Full episode B&B 16th January 2024
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Love how Hope stood up to her mom. ❤️
ReplyDeleteMe too
DeleteYes, she politely told her to accept it, and bud out.
DeleteLike the way Brooke just barges in too because she saw the light on.
Forrester mode of dealing with insubordination in employees who dare to defy them: vehicular (at the least) manslaughter.
DeleteEEWW Ridge old fogey making out. EEWW
DeleteGive it a break WitchyPoo. Did you actually watch the show when the car went off the road? I still have the episode on VHS.
DeleteEmma was texting and then her phone that she placed on the seat beside her slipped off and fell on the floor to the passenger side. She went to reach for it as the road was at a turning point and she was not upright in the car.
That is what happened.
Thank god we have no texting and driving laws where I live. Yes people still do and motor vehicles accidents happen. People wind up DEAD because of the stupidity; either themselves or others. Paramedics get called to the scene (not EMTs as we have paramedics not EMTs) and it is frequent the issue - stupid people texting.
WitchyPoo is funny....I like reading her posts. lol
DeleteHello Trini Lady. Welcome! 👋🏻👋🏻
DeleteHi Elle, thank you 😊
DeleteMe too ❤️
DeleteThank you for sharing 🩵
ReplyDeleteThank you Bob xxxx
ReplyDeleteToday's show was very anticlimactic. 🙂
ReplyDeleteLike Ren Chen said we can probably skip most of the week if it's just about RJ and Luna apartment hunting.
Does Luna not have her own place?
i think her mom is staying with her they haven't come out and said it but i think we are to assume this
DeleteI loved today's show, D. Well, except for the RJ/Luna nonsense. Ffwed through all of it.
DeleteDid anyone noticed when Luna asked RJ to get his own place soon and he realised what she was really saying, they kissed and RJ almost swallowed Luna’s lips and chin!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Delete😂 yes Colly, that's why I asked, does Luna not have her own place they could go to for now? As Ashrpblond pointed out maybe Poppy is staying there. I didn't think of that.
DeleteElle I really only enjoyed the last 5 min. I was hoping for alot more between Hope, Thomas and Brooke being told. But bet they drag this out until Friday.
DeleteD, yes, I remember Poppy saying a few times, “ok I will see you at home” something along those lines??
DeleteTY Bob. Have a good evening.
ReplyDeleteaaahhh i kept waiting for hope to say those 3 words to her mom that she loved thomas. its coming though , him telling her the truth i think she will finally accept that she has fallen for him and tell him yes to marriage
ReplyDeleteI thought for sure she was going to say those 3 words to Brooke and she needs to accept it. I think Hope is realizing now just how much she has deeper feelings for him after what he admitted to, knowing and risking the consequences in telling her.
DeleteI think so too! I literally only watched the last few minutes today, and I'm glad I did. Way to go, Hope!
DeleteI thought it was just me that picked up on that. I think Thomas telling her the truth just made her realize the depth of her feelings for him. And, her telling Brooke that she is going to have to accept her and Thomas being together was the cherry on top.
DeleteAgree Elle. She is seeing just how much he is committed to proving he is not that same man anymore and how much he loves her..yes he didn't call 911 but that's "fight or flight" mode. He admitted he was scared to tell anyone, but he told Hope, knowing he could lose her for good.
DeleteBrooke can see Hope has strong feelings for Thomas, that’s why she is demanding Hope leave him NOW, before Hopes feeling get even stronger.. It won’t be too far away that Hope says those three words to him.. I too think Thomas being honest with Hope knowing she could leave him, has made Hope realise how much he has changed and how it is no longer about obsession, or his old ways..
Deletethomas may not have run her off the road, but if i remember correctly, he didn't call for help either.
ReplyDeleteWhich, from what I've heard about California law is not a crime. Also the statute of limitations is only 3 years, meaning he won't and can't be charged with anything.
DeleteHeheh Hope now is struggling on two fronts - not being in love with Thomas to begin with AND processing the Emma story.
ReplyDeleteBut huh? How did Brooke land on Hope ending things? Did Hope tell her about Emma and we didn't see? Or Brooke is just saying it in the hopes that it comes through?
Hope is there any part of you that will ever say you love Thomas?
She is so insecure
DeleteJust want someone to love only her and the hell with any morals or respect to her pain, daughter and now her friend,
She just wants to fool herself so nobody will will tell her i told so
And I really like to know what exactly the work thomas did ,
Maybe the work they have been doing in the office 🤮🤮🤮🤮
And Then Thomas runs to Ridge getting on Brooke, he always scheming trying to get support for himself, knowing his daddy gonna always back him regardless.
Thomas manipulating ways is working for him 24/7...
And i had to laugh when he said she got all cards in front of her 😂😂😂
While he kept the most important and disgusting details to himself in case xander reached out to hope
She is so naive and gullible and desperate
"Mistakes" and "regrettable things" are not the same as evil deeds that reflect a dark core nature. I am so tired of soap characters minimizing behavior that is much worse than ordinary human fallibility and insulting us by claiming we are all the same because we “all make mistakes”
DeleteGetting in bed with such a man (when you were often his victim), using him as a booty call and ego boost, because he loves only you and says he has changed: delusional, sick/unhealthy, sleazy... and dangerous.
Hope is portrayed as a societal stereotypical dumb blonde young woman who is more desperate to Booty Calls than justice for a true friend.
It also bugs me the message that is sent here Mmysh - that a woman (like this!) needs a man to love her unconditionally so desperately that her compass stops working. And it would be one thing if she loved him too. But... How much more does she have to trick herself and talk herself and screw herself into loving him? And al because she can't see it's not Thomas or nothing. That's the most forced romance ever. And the other message - being loved is way more important than loving. She knows what love feels like, the kind of love you just can't hide. And I get that Liam was awful in some moments and I'm not advocating for him at all. But I am advocating for holding off, for branching out and for trusting you deserve the whole package. To love and be loved. To have passion and safety and cleanness of trauma. Why is it presented like she has no other choice, that she's incapable of dating but her only options are Liam and Thomas?
DeleteIndeed
DeleteNot accepting this sick relationship in all levels doesn’t mean oh yeah we want her with liam
They could send a meaningful powerful message
She can be alone for a while concentrating on her career and kids
And yeah she can forgive thomas and liam
But she shouldn’t stay with liam
Instead of this disgusting offensive storyline
"Hope is there any part of you that will ever say you love Thomas?' Tsk Tsk, Milla. You're so impatient. It will come. 😌😊
DeleteBrooke saying what she said to Hope today was stupid. Of course Hope is going to push back. But what was funny to me is how Hope got so frustrated. It seemed like she was actually trying to convince herself more than she was trying to convince Brooke! Even though we saw no indicators in today’s episode that Hope is going to dump Thomas, I still have very high hopes that she will. This is definitely not over….Emma’s death and the events surrounding it still have a long way to go.
DeleteAnd why do Ridge, Eric and Carter have to constantly remind us that Carter is family?? So unnecessary!
Yes, we get it….Carter is family!
The RJ and Luna thing was boring. Just filler that no one really cares about. I like them together, but we aren’t invested in them as a couple….so just kind of boring at this point.
In addition to Brooke filling Hope’s ear with anti-Thomas rhetoric, we also heard Thomas complain to Ridge that Brooke wasn’t supporting their relationship. Oh Thomas….give it up, that will never happen!
And I hope Hope tells Brooke exactly what Thomas told her about the night Emma died, because if Hope keeps it to herself, this whole thing could go very differently. I do have high hopes that Xander won’t be letting it go anytime soon. And I also think Finn is going to get pulled back in.
Mmysh, Milla I so don't agree with alot of your above comments but don't want to get into it. I for one, don't see this soap, or any fictional show as an insult and claim we are all the same, with no morals or respect. Hope is not being portrait as a "dumb blonde". Milla, her compass stopped working> why because maybe now she knows what real love is? When did she ever feel that with Liam? I think its more than just thinking its Thomas or nothing, or talking herself, or screwing herself into loving him.
DeleteD I agree.. Hope pointed out to Brooke, that Thomas has showed her what true love is with actions, “not just empty words and promises” such as Liam always gave.. She always felt like and knew, that she could never fully trust Liam, no matter what he said or promised, because as soon as they had any issues, straight to Steffy he ran.. His words were always just that!! Empty!! No actions to back himself up.. Whereas with Thomas, she has never ever had to question where his heart truly lies, even through the bad times!!
DeleteAnd just to add, the message the show is sending depends on perspective. As I've said in the past, this storyline shows that people can commit to changing themselves, maturing, making healthier choices and generally, doing better. It also shows that such people deserve love as well.
DeleteWhat kind of message is sent if a person who is trying to change gets dumped on at every turn from everyone he comes into contact with? It can take a person into severe depression, possibly even deciding to take their own life. Thomas changing and doing all he can to prove it is a positive message. But again, it depends on one's perspective.
Very good point Elle!!
DeleteElle after waiting for 10+ years 😂 that love must be buried well. Let's see.
DeleteD I also won't get into it, she knows what real love is and to feel it indeed. And she doesn't feel it now. I've said this about 200 times and none of you will convince me otherwise so enough said.
Lynn I also hope she tells Brooke, but it's so obvious that she's terrified to. She knows what Brooke will (rightfully) say - how can you even consider touching that man let alone more? Poor hope clinging on this man who is (quite literally) mad about her and not having the self-respect to look for someone SHE loves is just sad and unrealistic. I hope I'm the youngest generation watching this because those still looking for love should not watch and believe this is what it should be.
DeleteHope is now trying to find the "right" words to convince Brooke how Thomas is not a killer 😅always a tough task. But I wouldn't worry, Lynn, that it won't come out. They didn't bring up one of the most controversial moments in this soap so that Hope *doesn't* care and doesn't change anything. Let's see how much longer the Thope will be dangled in front of our eyes before they end this nonsense.
DeleteYou're right about Brooke, she should be smarter but at this point she looks lost at words to me. How did her daughter who got so damaged by this man start screwing him? If it was my daughter I also would be lost what to say that isn't painfully obvious. But Hope was never good at hiding things from Brooke, she's always the first one she goes to and I'm sure now won't be the exception.
Elle, there have been so many things that Thomas has said and done which shows how inconsistent he is. He told Hope he has been “haunted” by the thoughts of Emma’s death, but has shown no visible remorse at all. He didn’t show it the night it happened. And he didn’t even show it with Hope when he confessed to her. All he could focus on during that discussion was moving ahead with his life with Hope. Talk is cheap! Hope should read right through his act. He is only telling her now because he didn’t want Xander to beat him to it. The fact that Hope acted so upset with Thomas and told him she needed time to think, then does a complete 180 on her position the second Brooke starts to question her….is very telling. She always goes into defense mode with Brooke. She knows her mom does not like Thomas, so Hope feels the need to defend him. But when left with her own thoughts, she will come to her senses.
DeleteThomas may have made some strides in the right direction, but in my opinion he is very much still a fraud. And nothing has happened recently that would him pushed him over the edge. Until that time comes, there is no way to gauge if he’s really changed. But even if he has, Emma still deserves justice. And that’s where Xander will come in….to make sure justice is served.
Milla, I don’t understand why some viewers still think that Hope wasn’t in love with Liam. She was absolutely in love with Liam. Liam just wasn’t returning that same level of devotion.
DeleteThis is how I see it…..
Thomas is 100% devoted and head over heels in love with Hope.
Hope loves the fact that Thomas loves her so much, but doesn’t reciprocate that same love and devotion.
Hope was 100% devoted and head over heels in love with Liam.
But Liam’s heart was never 100% with Hope.
Lynn you are speaking my mind. Thomas talks based on his goals with Hope. He was neve haunted by this, never truly regretted anything. The one time cried crocodile tears to Ridge was out of fear, the cop had just been in there and Ridge was giving him one of the most real talks anyone has ever given him, maybe even the only one. After Emma crashed, he was like the villain in the movie, absolutely unbothered went to Hope and started hugging her and talking sweet nothings. Since then he hasn't shown one moment when he remembers that girl. When he first heard it is being brought up again, his face was tough and showed NO pain, first impulse was to say he didn't do anything. He only came to Hope so that it seems he wants to "tell her first". But he never wanted to tell her to begin with. And like you said, all he wanted to achieve is push her to "move on" - quite stupid move which I of course love, because she won't.
DeleteAnd the reason Hope lashes out at Brooke is because Brooke's words hit the right spot. Otherwise it would be yeah mom whatever, don't let the door slam you on your way out. But she looks anxious and like she wants to cry.
Brooke and Hope is quite similar to this forum I think - people only react if someone's statement hits a button and they can't help responding, even though they know already there's no way they will convince the other person otherwise. When you don't care about a statement, you just move past it. Hope knows Brooke will never ever accept Thomas for Hope and especially not once she hears about Emma. And Brooke's words hit her weak spot and she can't help but lash out.
Delete@Colly: I now saw your explanation on the yesterday's big misunderstanding and responded 😅omg how we get lost in translation sometimes 🤗
DeleteI'm just gonna say that I think we viewers do A LOT more psychoanalyzing of these characters and their motives than the writers do. I think for the writers it's just about what makes a good story, so they just throw stuff out there. Then we viewers are left to try to explain and understand (and invent) WHY the characters do what they do.
DeleteMilla, not knowing the whole history, isn't Liam her first love? If so then how can you say she knows what she felt for Liam is real love. And you as the youngest generation watching? Soaps are not the shows to watch to teach respect and morals.
DeleteListen to your Elders !
😉 😊
Ren Chen so true. 👍
DeleteD it's the fact that she's said it about a million times, been shown happy with him, married him, chased him and been chased by him and all the other soapy things that leave no question if a woman loves a man. He was not only her first love, he was her only love. Thomas has been trying to pry the words out of her mouth for a decade now and all he got has been an exhausted little Liam-provoked "I love him for it" said to Liam that he is now replaying in his head and to everyone who will listen. I absolutely know.
DeleteAnd people (esp the younger they are) are VERY influenced by media, much more than they should, especially in romantic matters. All the effects, the music, the angst, the drama, the quests, the desire to be fought for... They look at their elders more often as an obstacle when it comes to love and less than a source of truth.
Ren Chen to me it's not even "what makes a good story" but rather "what can I bang out on the can in the morning before that table reading I really don't wanna go to".
DeleteMilla, oh the mental image that put in my head! Too true! 😄😄😄 🚽
DeleteAhahahah sorry Ren I have very strong opinions when it comes to writing 😂🙈
DeleteD and Milla, I do not think Hope knows what real love is. Liam was always torn between two women and for the greater part of their beginnings, Hope fought, begged and cried for Liam's love. Her love for him is therefore, based on desperation to have him... to beat Steffy... to win. She put her self-esteem and insecurities on the back burner just to have Liam because she "loved" him. And let's not forget how Brooke pushed her to stay with Liam in spite of his indiscretions and unfaithfulness. Even when she recently ended things with Thomas to go back to Liam, it was because of Beth, and also because of Liam's manipulations. She knew Liam loved Steffy, yet she was willing to go back to Liam for their family's sake. Hope's "love" was built on other people's insistence that she be with Liam.
DeleteThomas is now showing her a different kind of love. It's a real, pure, unconditional kind of love and I think Hope is not quite able to comprehend it, which is why she is hesitant to commit to him fully. I do believe though, that while she was talking to Brooke, she came to the stark reality of the depth of her feelings for Thomas but more about how much Thomas truly loves her. I could be wrong, of course. We will see.
Elle if that's the truth nobody on any soap knows what real love is. Who hasn't fought someone for someone?
DeleteIn soaps and in real life I've always said that it's up to the person if they love really because only they feel it in their hearts. We are not there and we can only judge based on what we think perfect love should look like. Hope and Liam's love story was as messy as anyone's. As much as Steffy and Liam's, as much as Taylor and Ridge's and of course as much as Ridge and Brooke's. But all of those couples love or loved each other mutually and in the way that they could based on who they are. Not based on who we think they should be and how they should show love.
And Hope has said and shown time after time after time that Liam is her great love. And has pushed time after time after time Thomas away. I don't believe if she loved him it would have been that hard and it would take so much work to manipulate her and lie to her into falling in love. Now she is attracted to the man finally after a decade. But still she can't force herself to say she loves him, she'd rather listen to him say it for her ("I know you love me" - saddest words ever if not followed by "of course I love you") staring down uncomfortably. I sometime think, if I were her I'd just say it out of sheer embarrassment and to end the cringe 😅
DeleteAnd I'm sure she realizes how much Thomas loves her. That was never ever up for debate, no matter how much she or anyone else thinks Thomas loves her, it's probably more. But she him... No. It doesn't take that long and that much internal and external pressure to "realize". In my country we say love and cough you can't hide 😁
DeleteI think what she was going for was that Thomas proposed and that she may say yes some day eventually (still doesn't mean she loves him, she's married him before without it; she can easily decide to say yes based on how much he loves her) and Brooke should be prepared. She was touching the ring.
Milla the statement i made, listen to your elders I meant as a joke. Didn't think you would take it literally. But your statement, the new gens see their parents *Elders* as an obstacle when it comes to love, or other problems, and less than a source of truth is very true. Which is sad because I think social media is not the place to look for answers or truth.
DeleteHaha D in many cases listening to your elders would be safer also in love life (case in point with Hope 😂).
DeleteTouche 🙂
DeleteSo many points but the new episode is near so i will only write about one point that’s keep popping
DeleteHope was never with liam because brook pushed her too
She was with liam because that’s what she wanted
When she left liam for Wyatt brook didn’t interfered at all
Even when they came back and brook through then a party and liam came
Brook stopped him and told him she us married now don’t interfere
So brook was only supporting what hope wants
And if we go by that
I guess we can say if hope now accepts Thomas’s proposal it will be only because brook has been pushing her to do the opposite
Hope now in that position of a child who knows he is wrong but can’t admit it because he doesn’t want to hear i told you so
And that’s why i think what brook is doing is stupid
Mmysh yes the example with Wyatt is very telling. If Hope had ever wanted to leave Liam, Brooke wouldn't stand in her way. But Hope always wanted him even when she shouldn't have. Brooke was her confidant and cheerleader, not her captor in a marriage.
DeleteThere should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that Liam was absolutely the love of Hope’s life. She has said those very words too many times to count!
DeleteBut that ship has sailed and now she must decide between the other three characters on the show because B&B is too cheap to make this show interesting and bring in more characters.
Hope is beautiful, kind, smart (sometimes lol), somewhat famous, and rich! Don’t tell me there aren’t another 100 men in her town alone who would jump at the chance to get to know her!!
Steffy and Hope are both very much in denial. Sad sad sad!
Someone in the show needs to really put Thomas to the test and see how he handles it. Like I said on another comment, if he’s truly changed….he won’t turn into Mr Hyde if his world starts falling apart. That is the only way we will ever know.
"But that ship has sailed and now she must decide between the other three characters on the show"
DeleteLynn who is the third character? I assume you mean Thomas, Finn and?
Oh I was just being silly. I was just pointing out that the introduction of a new man on the show is such a remote possibility. I have a love hate relationship with this show.
DeleteAhahah same Lynn, I can imagine it's what being a smoker feels like. You hate it but you just can't stay away.
DeleteLadies, I never said that Liam was not Hope's great love or love of her life. For now, this is what she absolutely believes. I was simply saying that based on the dynamics of their relationship and the third parties who have always been there, it is possible that Hope does not know what real love is. Yes, she has said that Liam is her true love based on how she felt about him. If those feelings however, were not a true representation of real love, then Liam would not have been her one "true" love.
DeleteThomas shows her love in a different way, a way she has never known (by her own words) so, it may turn out that Thomas might be her "one true love" because his love for her is unconditional. Hope will be able to experience how it feels to be loved completely and only then will she be able to reciprocate that love. She said it herself, that she does not know if she can love another man again. She also said that Thomas has brought up feelings in her that she did not know she had and that she feels free with him. This is different for Hope and it just might make her see what real true love is all about. She never got that from Liam so his type of love was all she knew, which is probably why she became attracted to Thomas in the first place.
Experiencing what it's like to be loved and not reciprocating this love is not beautiful, it's tragic. And knowing it is selfish. You keep talking about Thomas' love but nobody is questioning that. But when her own heart does not belong to him, he can love her as much as he wants, she can't rip a love out of her own heart that just isn't there.
DeleteI said in the beginning that this is not about Liam. It's about her lack of love for Thomas.
All good Milla, ❤️❤️❤️
DeleteThank you Bob ❤️
ReplyDeleteDo Brooke and Ridge ever see each other at home? Must ALL their connubial bliss happen at the office?
ReplyDeleteI wonder this about all the couples. And now RJ and Luna the same thing 🙈
DeleteAnd Brooke saying……”Oh!! Sorry for interrupting!!” That is so ridiculous!! I don’t know any company that supports office make-out sessions which many times turns into office sex at FC. So unrealistic!!!
DeleteIt’s a wonder any work ever gets done at Forrester! Seems everyone is making-out in the office, including Ridge and Brooke leading the parade. And no one even bothers to lock the door, not that it is really appropriate in a work environment, but they even leave their doors unlocked at their houses too.
ReplyDelete😂😂😂😂😂 So funny, but true!
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