The Bold and the Beautiful 1-29-24 Full episode B&B 29th January 2024
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Brooke pls shut up
ReplyDeleteBrooke is a mom who wants what she feels is best for her daughter. Although, all Brooke’s lecturing backfires.
ReplyDeleteIt’s a no win situation. I just Hope does the right thing and figures it out for herself, Thomas is NOT the person she should be with.
This is going to pit Ridge and Brooke against either. Just more recycled storylines.
I think Poppy needs to tell Luna who her dad is. Her decision to not tell Luna is extremely selfish.
But I continue to think that Poppy is a good person and not some gold digger. I definitely don’t think Poppy has any agenda with Bill.
Lynn I am increasingly resentful because it seems the Emma story is dead. They just dangled that carrot for us, dangled Xander and Finn for what? Literally what was the point?
DeleteHope will do absolutely nothing to honor that girl, she basically forgot what became clear to her. That anger and those two seconds while she "thought about it" was a joke. She doesn't have any internal conflict about it, is not showing that it means anything to her. How come it meant so much to Ridge back then and to Hope nothing? Maybe they are stalling it, but it doesn't seem so. I want to choke her with that chain ๐ or at least slap that smug face.
Hey I was wrong, Poppy didn't stall the Bill paternity answer till the end. But apparently the topic is big enough that she is not saying anything. I hope it wasn't some traumatic story.
Milla, I agree on the Xander thing. WTH??!!! Maybe Xander was brought back simply to make Thomas confess to Hope. So now, supposedly, there are no more secrets between them. But we both know that’s not the case. There are plenty of things Thomas did that Hope still isn’t aware of.
DeleteIf the writers brought Xander back simply to clear the path for Hope and Thomas to be the happily married couple….then I’m out.
I’m barely hanging on these days as it is. The show is boring and disappointing.
It seems this whole Poppy, Li, Luna thing is far from over. But I’m uninterested in any of it. The constant Li beratement reached ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ weeks and weeks ago.
Lynn same. The Hope and Thomas story also lost it's appeal to me. I fast forward all episodes these days. Such a shame for the Billness of it all ๐
DeleteMilla, I listen to the show while doing other things. If someone comes on and starts talking about something I’m interested in, then I pick up my phone and actually watch. I definitely don’t give it my full attention these days. You could still get your Bill fix that way. He’s on quite a bit these days. ๐๐ป๐๐ป I swear that man looks better than he did a decade ago. ๐๐๐
DeleteI believe Poppy when she says Bill is not Luna's father. Here's a thought. Maybe it's Jack! That's why Li hates Poppy so much and why she left Jack without a second thought when she found out that he fathered Finn. I mean, it's enough that her husband slept with her sister and fathered her child, but to find out he also fathered Finn, all while she cannot bear any children? I would be extremely bitter too.
DeleteAs for the Xander storyline, with all the 'noise' about Thomas killing Emma, I still believe this was done to clear the air about the whole thing and drive the point home that Thomas did not kill Emma and he never meant to.
I too believe it could be Jack. Li's a little too bitter towards Poppy just because of her lifestyle. And she made it clear to Luna that she can't work at Foresters. She doesn't seem to want Luna anywhere near Steffy or Finn.
DeleteIt's a little weird because there was this big build-up over Xander and Emma, and then . . . nothing. Thomas just confessed and that was that. But I don't see where else they could go with the Emma thing at this point. There's no reason to do an investigation, because Hope already knows what happened. I've told myself that if Thomas and Hope split up, I'll stop watching this show. And Lynn, you said you're going to stop watching if they get married, so I guess either way, B&B is going to lose a viewer ๐.
DeleteAlso, Luna has a right to know who her dad is, after all these years. Poppy should understand that anybody would want to know, and stop acting all hurt when Luna asks the question.
DeleteI doubt we’ve seen the last of Xander. I’m hoping this is just more bad writing that he has been out of sight for the last couple of weeks.
DeleteI am really hoping much more comes from it. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if he reappears. But since things move at a snail’s pace, it may take some time.
Ren Chen I also think it's super weird to have this whole major Xander appearance and flashbacks and what not... For the outcome to be literally nothing. If it was just so that Thomas "confesses" they could have done it in a way that makes him look so much better and spared themselves Xander. Xander doesn't know anything has happened and if he came back, feeling so strongly just to go away, that's insulting level of writing and casting and generally attitude towards the viewer. They would lose me even before knowing what happens with Hope and Thomas ๐
DeleteMilla, I think you and others who are disappointed with the Xander storyline are disappointed because there is the feeling that Thomas must pay for what he did to Emma. However, the writers have shown that Thomas really did not do anything to Emma. Then, it became that Hope should end things with Thomas when she found out he was at the scene and did not call 911 in an attempt to save Emma's life however, the writers again made it that "noone could have survived that crash."
DeleteThis is all about not wanting Hope and Thomas to be together. If the Xander story is not over, what will it accomplish now? Hope knows the truth and continues to stand by Thomas. The only direction left for the story is to show Hope standing by Thomas' side through it all and against everyone.
I don't think that's what they showed, Elle. It was shown and discussed how he chased and left her to die. "Nobody could survive that crash" is his own, wildly unqualified and self-serving statement that any good writing would have questioned. Any good person would have questioned - like Ridge did back then. If that's the end of it, I'm disappointed with the writing because it didn't have to take a whole other character to appear for us to end exactly where we started. For nothing to change. Hope has been trashed in my eyes for a while and keeps sinking lower and lower. I see less and less need to come and watch her further downfall, let alone discuss it. That's my standpoint.
DeleteAnd yes of course I wanted to see Thomas punished, I hope that still happens but not invested enough to waste energy to watch it happen hopefully maybe someday ๐ I'll probably come and judge by the comments if sth is worth watching. Everyone's comments are so much better, with more sense and soul than this lazy show ๐
DeleteWell if I was one of the writers and I wanted to bring up the Emma storyline, I would have gone about it a completely different way: have Emma come back as a ghost and haunt Thomas. Bring back Xander and Zoe (temporarily), so she could haunt them too, Xander for cheating on her, and Zoe for being so bi*chy to her. Then after Thomas confessed to Hope, one of two things could happen: either Emma's ghost is satisfied and she goes away. OR it turns out she's not a ghost after all, she's still alive, and she's the newest villain on B & B.
Delete๐๐ฝproving my point the comments are so much better than the show.
DeleteMilla, I think I missed my calling in life. I should have been a writer for soaps!
DeleteIt's never too late Ren, never too late ๐ค
DeleteThe Audacity of Brooke ๐
ReplyDeleteTY BOB. Have a great week!
ReplyDeletei have a feeling poppy may have been raped. the 'bill' story was just diverting us.
ReplyDeletealso, remember ridge knows thomas didn't call for help when he saw her car go over the cliff. NOT calling shows what a creep he is.
The only reason I don’t think Poppy was raped is because it’s been said that Luna was made from love. If that wouldn't have been said, then I agree….rape would be plausible.
Deletei forgot.
DeleteThank you Bob ๐
ReplyDeleteHope looked absolutely gorgeous today!
ReplyDeleteLoved Ridge's and Thomas' conversation.
Brooke, desperation does not look good on you. Lol!
Why did RJ's shirt looked like there were cows on it? Lol.
So Lynn it potentially seems you are speaking out of 2 different sides of the apparent same side.
ReplyDeleteHere’s why.
A) your agreeing that Poppy should let Luna know who her Dad is and gave your explanation (good Mom type stuff).
Although
B)Brooke is being a good Mom by inserting herself into insisting Hope not marry Thomas despite Hope clearly letting her Mom know her statements on why she herself feels he is treating her well (not sure if she listed that Liam did not as I would have to rewatch).
Here is where I am confused.
How is it that Poppy is a good Mom for yes tell Luna what she wants to know.
Yes Brooke is a good Mom for not wanting Hope to marry Thomas (Hope just poured her heart out to her Mom in why she believers Thomas is so good at treating her well). I don’t understand why one Mom doing what her daughter is asking is good; whereas the other Mom not accepting what her grown up fully mature woman daughter is telling her us being ignored is okay?
Please enlighten me?
Brooke has no control over a grown woman who has an entire family of her own.
You would think that after years of telling her daughter how and what to feel, how and what to do when it comes to her love life, then seeing the utter failure that turned out to be, that Brooke would not want to interfere this time. Imagine Brooke telling Hope about "all that you have gone through with your marriage ending" and Hope basically telling her "Um, not so much, mom." Brooke just refuses to realize that Hope is grown and is intent on making her own decisions instead of listening to her mother's bad advice. And Brooke really must not want to see Hope happy but rather, pining after a man who dumped her at the first chance he got (as he always did).
DeleteBig Fan, I honestly don’t see any comparison between the two.
DeleteLuna has a right to know her roots. I don’t know any child who wouldn’t want to know who their parents are. I think Poppy owes Luna an answer.
As far as Brooke is concerned….Brooke is giving Hope her opinion about Thomas. Right or wrong…Brooke has a right to her opinion. I happen to agree with Brooke’s opinion. You may not, and that’s your right.…to have your opinion.
But Brooke can’t force Hope (who’s an adult) to do what Brooke wants.
Just like Taylor always had strong opinions, and voiced those opinions to Thomas. Brooke does the same.
I actually wish Brooke would take a different approach with Hope. Because all it seems to do is push Hope closer to Thomas.
But Poppy telling Luna who her dad is has nothing to do with “opinions.” I just think Luna has a right to know where she came from. I think most people would agree with that.
I agree!! Brooke needs to let go of the umbilical cord at some stage!! Now Hope has children of her own, would be a good time to that that!! She is DEMANDING not advising!! As u said Elle, Liam has always been “the one” for Hope, according to Brooke, and he seems to b able to do no wrong in Brooke’s eyes?? I would have loved for Ridge to hear everything Brooke said to Hope today!! The only good thing from Brooke today was was the statement that if she isn’t going to vomit to Thomas then she is leading him on.. But I am starting to get the impression that this is now way more than just that! I believe Hopes feelings for him are very strong and that’s more so the reason she is struggling.. She said it all today!! I laughed the way she was sarcastic about how Brooke should care about her being happy, rather than the past!! I find it sad that Hope really wants to open up to her mother and talk to her, but the second she does, it’s just demands and all negative..
DeleteElle, I think the Liam train has sailed for Brooke. What I got out of what she said was that Hope needed time to heal from the dissolve of her marriage. I didn’t get that Brooke was trying to convince Hope that she should try to get Liam back.
DeleteColly, I agree….Brooke needs to change her approach with Hope if she wants Hope to actually hear what she’s saying. She is being demanding, and Hope doesn’t even listen when she approaches her that way. That we agree on. But I think Hope is a long way from saying yes to any proposal.
DeleteIf the spoilers are right….we are going to have another very opinionated woman (Steffy) giving her two cents in the near term. And supposedly Steffy and Brooke will agree on the Thomas proposal. They are both against the idea of marriage for Hope and Thomas.
What I’ll say about Thomas is that he is NOT listening to Hope. He continues to pressure her (even though he says he isn’t). He thinks about her nonstop day and night. And Hope is still trying to figure out what she wants and make sure the kids are OK with the divorce, etc.. The fact that Hope is ALL that Thomas thinks about seems like obsession to me. He talks about nothing else. And Hope doesn’t want to talk about it at all. Lol.
DeleteTo be fair Lynn, Thomas was not talking about Hope. He was working and talking about visiting Eric. Ridge was the one who brought up Hope.
DeleteAnd obsession is a strong word for Thomas talking about the woman he is in love with. We haven't seen him daydreaming about Hope or having unhealthy thoughts about her.
Colly, you are correct. Hope's feelings for Thomas have definitely evolved and she has said as much the last couple of times we've seen her. She is now referring to her and Thomas being in a relationship, talking about their future together, and she told Brooke today that not accepting Thomas' proposal has nothing to do with his past but about her needing time to make sure that things are good in her life and with the kids. It's the very reason Brooke began to desperately plead with her not to marry Thomas. She sees that Hope is getting in deeper with Thomas.
DeleteYes, you are correct, Ridge did bring it up. But Thomas’ determination is what makes him seem obsessive. He told Ridge “they decided to keep the proposal between them for now.” But I recall it was Hope telling Thomas that she wanted to keep it between them.
DeleteAnd actually, Brooke didn’t bring up Thomas’ name either, Hope did. She automatically goes into defense mode with Brooke. And every time Hope does that, it always comes off as Hope desperately trying to convince herself that Thomas is the right guy for her. Still no admission of love after all these months.
They both said they were going to keep the proposal between them, and then Thomas tells Ridge and Hope tells Brooke. ๐ค
DeleteI disagree that Hope is desperately trying to convince herself that Thomas is the right guy for her. She has feelings for him and she just doesn't want to make any rash decisions based on her feelings. As she told Brooke, Thomas loves her unconditionally, and we all know that this is what Hope has always wanted so it's really not about whether he is the right guy.
DeleteAnd I also think that despite forgiving Thomas for all that he did, it's still at the back of her mind (like she has told Liam and Brooke every time they bring it up). She has not forgotten however, she's not holding it against him. But she will be a fool to just rush in without taking these things into consideration. She wants to be completely sure that having a future with Thomas is what is right. Which is why she has held back on saying how she feels. An admission of love would just confirm what everyone around her already knows since her actions already tell us how she truly feels. So it's not that she does not love Thomas, she is just being very careful, is all.
Elle, just because someone loves you unconditionally doesn’t mean you will automatically return those feelings. If that’s all Hope cares about, she can go get a golden retriever. We both know that in order for it to work, she has to be able to reciprocate those feelings. And currently, she does not. She simply can’t bring herself to tell Thomas or her mom or Liam or anyone that she is in love with Thomas. And the way I see it….she can’t, because she simply isn’t in love with him. She wouldn’t need more time if she knew he was the man for her. Her very words were…she stil needs time to figure out what she wants.
DeleteThat’s wishy washy in my book. Brooke nailed it when she told Hope she shouldn’t be stringing him along. We’ve all been saying that for months.
Brooke is not the only one who told her that. Steffy has also warned Hope several times about stringing Thomas along yet, Hope is still with him. This tells me that Hope is serious about what she has with Thomas. If she isn't, then she's downright diabolical for purposely leading him on. She even told Thomas recently that wearing his ring around her neck is not something she takes lightly.
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DeleteWell I don’t think Hope is diabolical. But I definitely think she has acted very selfishly. Hope has taken Thomas at his word that she can take all the time she needs with the decision. But I think that Thomas is far more impatient than he lets on. And Hope really is thinking about things. I don’t think Hope thinks she’s leading him on. It’s clear she cares about him. It simply comes down to what Brooke said…..”Can you really ever forget all those things he’s done to you and give Thomas the relationship / love he needs??” That’s been my (and some others) argument the whole time. How could she ever forget and not let that affect her feelings for him?? For me, it would be impossible.
Lynn I appreciate the way you clarified (probably a bad choice of word, but works for how I understand what your thinking was) with your initial post.
DeleteThat’s been my biggest concern/ issue with Brooke. Hope is a fully grown woman. I’m glad she is no longer with Liam and really do hope she gets that he did not treat her well by going back and forth with her and Steffy. Hope played a role there as did Steffy.
At some point though Brooke might want to bite her tongue and not say anything. Talk to a pillow (into it so no one hears).
Same with all of them.
Perhaps it would give them all some time to relax before doing anything.
The new downtime? Lol
Big fan, yes, for sure Brooke needs help with her approach. I think we’re supposed to see Steffy be ‘bossy’ as well this week, but with Thomas. There are definitely some strong / opinionated women on the show. For Brooke, I feel her pain. It’s her daughter and she genuinely believes it will be the biggest mistake of her life if she marries Thomas. But we’ve seen time and time again Hope recoil at Brooke’s lectures. At this point, Brooke needs to back off or scream into the pillow as you suggested. Lol. Hope is crystal clear how her mom feels about it.
DeleteIn Brooke’s defense though….this was the first time she was hearing about ‘the proposal.’ So I fully expected Brooke to react and give her 2 cents.
So glad Bill is NOT the father... Not another child he didn't know
ReplyDeleteAll this talk about 'Hope hasn't admitted to being in love with Thomas, oh please, it's clear as daylight. Seems like SOME people here don't know what love is, it's evident even in the way she looks at him!
ReplyDeleteI think Hope's feelings are not real until she actually says the words. However, Liam always said the words to Hope but look how that turned out. He really did not love her because he walked away from her and ran to another woman off of one kiss. Hope also told Liam she loved him and only him but again, she was daydreaming about Thomas and developing feelings for him which led to the kiss in Rome.
DeleteWords aren't always everything. It's clear how Hope feels about Thomas based on how she acts around him. Even finding out that he was there when Emma died did not make her walk away from Thomas. That in itself, says a lot about how she feels for him.
UGH. Why does Poppy just keep on and keep on insisting that she should be enough and keep on avoiding the subject???? It's like there's a REASON she does Not wanna tell Luna who her dad is.
ReplyDeleteFINN could be Luna's Dad!
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