The Bold and the Beautiful 3-20-24 Full episode B&B 20th March 2024
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Wow such an early posting 👏🏼👏🏼
ReplyDeleteSteffy comparing Hope to Brooke 😂 Brooke never rejected a marriage proposal from Ridge, in fact she devoted her life to either get him or try to forget him. It's nothing like this weird madness we are witnessing with Thope. Steffy is losing the plot a little here in her blind hate of the Logan’s. But the expression "like some disgusting sex toy" is something I'm going to think about a lot 😅
The paternity tests queen judging hope and brook
DeleteShe is disgusting and pathetic
The one who kissed liam twice and never told her husband
And she doesn’t seem frustrated to me over taking a life
She seems to got over it already
You know not her first time 😂
Oh god how hateful and arrogant she is
Thomas doesn’t need enemies when he has her as a sister
She is disgusting 🤮
Glad you are back Mmysh!! ❤️
DeleteIn the past steffy were like
DeleteOh all hope wants is marriage
But now why you don’t expect my brother’s proposal
😂😂😂
But oh yeah that time she was after liam
She can’t miss a chance to blame her problems or any one of her family’s problems on a logen
Like they do no wrong
Im so sick of her 🤮🤮🤮
And ut makes me laugh every time someone say that brook hates ridge’s kids (what to like exactly) while brook has every right to hate those brats but she isn’t
But look how brook treat them and how they treat brook and her family
The call girl daughter bad mouthing brook 😂😂😂
She is such a joke
Hey sweetie
DeleteI was reading the comments
But didn’t have the appetite to comment
Hope makes me sick
Thomas too
Steffy makes ne sicker
And i didn’t want to argue
I get it! Sometimes the debate becomes a bit overwhelming. 😊
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DeleteMilla, Steffy is reaching for sure. I can’t stand it when she acts so high and mighty. I think she feels the need to insert herself into the Thomas and Hope mess right now because her own love life with Finn is in question and she needs a diversion.
DeleteLynn it’s no different to Hope inserting herself into Steffy’s marriage the other day, and she said things that were out of line also, and acted as though she knew better than Steffy did!! So I don’t think she is acting high and mighty, yes she said a few things that were out of line , just like Hope did the other day.. Hope was looking out for Finn’s best interest and steffy is looking out for Thomas’s best interest!! Brooke was not honest with Thomas and his questions, yet she got upset at Steffy for giving her brother advice from her perspective!!
DeleteExcept Hope was trying to help the relationship (at least right now), all she said was that Steffy should be more understanding and patient to her husband. Is that so outrageous? In Steffy world understanding and patient are foreign words, but in the end after that (Hope talking to her and Liam to Finn) they came together. Steffy is trying to break up a relationship. I happen to agree that it is one that should finally end so I support her, but the two meddlings are not the same. If I'm Hope I'd feel quite annoyed that after I came from a place of care for Steffy's relationship and gave her perspective to save it, she comes from a place to destroy mine.
DeleteLynn you're probably right about Steffy's motive, even though to me it's always hard to understand if some storyline is connected to anything or is just lazy writing when they get tired to milk the previous one 😅 somehow as soon as Steffy is trying to get diversion from her own problems, Finn is also not having visions and issues with Sheila anymore. Someone was talking about history of the soaps but what is happening right now is so unlike what history was up until even 2017-2018. Storylines used to be beautifully intertwined and evolve until there was a satisfying ending, while now it's all chopped into weeks, no development but repetition and all of a sudden someone acting completely whacky (Hope "loving" Thomas, Finn connecting to Sheila).
DeleteMilla i agree with what you said
DeleteIts all about the hate steffy has for hope
Instead of explaining to her brother that he can't be delusional and that he should listen to the things Hope says she tried to demonize Hope as much as she can because she just won't miss a chance to blame a Logan woman for everything that is not ok with her or one of her family members. No woman is forced to be ready for marriage because she dated a guy for a few months. It's actually abusive to even think that Hope saying "no" is so unforgivable
It's like the Logans can't even make their own choices according to Steffy.
In yesterday’s episode When she told Thomas to imagine what he would do if Douglas would be in his situation
yeah I wonder what Steffy would say if Kelly would be dating a guy for few months and he would ignore her when she said that she isn't ready for marriage and his witchy sister would bully her and blame everything on her
Oh and what guy would also happen to be someone that abused her family for years
We all know what would Steffy do and it sure as hell she wouldn't be blaming Kelly and saying that it's all on her.
DeleteAnother thing that made me laugh is her saying that the toxicity of his relationship with Hope could resurrect Thomas's demons
But sure its ok and justified that resurrect Sheila's demons with her fists which ended with her taking a life
Steffy had no right to tell Hope that her relationship with Thomas is over
Even though I want this relationship to end but it's not her call. Only Thomas can decide if he ended things with Hope.
Mmysh perfectly said. I wasn’t thinking so much in depth about Steffy’s approach and motivation, because to me it’s just refreshing for someone on this show to stand up to the madness of Thope. But you’re right that it’s not her call. And regarding her unresolved issue with the Logan’s it’s a big yawn at this point. Whenever she has some problem with Hope, she reaches automatically towards the last name agenda and it’s like - grow up already, Steffy. Not to mention - look at your own and your mom’s history for a change (I know Taylor has been irrelevant since ca 2013 but still). If how they talked had anything in common with reality, Hope would have so much to say back to her, she could tear her down.
DeleteExactly milla but neither hope or brook for that matter ever brought up their mom’s past when steffy or thomas bash brook all the time
DeleteAnd it tell so much about brook actually
Brook knows all taytor history especially how she cheated on ridge and how that the reason their father left their mother not because of brook
But brook never told them these things and i guess even to hope
She is waaaay a better person than taylor who filled her children with lies and hate and blame brook for all her problems
And yeah hope could tear her down but hope can’t go down to her level
She isn’t a bully
And this attitude it’s impossible to come from someone supposedly traumatized and feeling bad over talking a life
DeleteShe is acting like it never happened
Milla, I completely agree with what you said in response to Colly’s comment.
DeleteSorry Colly, but I see the two situations as day and night. Nothing about Hope’s approach even remotely compared to how Steffy comes at people.
Milla, for sure the show is substandard these days. I’m guessing that’s why B&B was only renewed for 1 year. I don’t expect it to be around too much longer.
DeleteMaybe you are right lynn especially since there will be a new soap coming soon
DeleteMmysh, your comment……
Delete“Another thing that made me laugh is her saying that the toxicity of his relationship with Hope could resurrect Thomas's demons.
But sure it’s ok and justified that resurrect Sheila's demons with her fists which ended with her taking a life.”
SPOT ON!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And lynn even its ok for her steffy herself to resurrect her brother demons
DeleteIt was her who told thomas that they have to do whatever it takes to break up their father’s marriage
Knowing exactly how thomas can go
But back then the blame was on brook from some fans for the CPS scheme
Thomas was excused as always
Evil Brook provoked him
But now steffy didn’t provoked sheila
She has the right to do what she did after everything sheila put her through
Mmysh, Steffy is at the top of my list for most annoying and hypocritical characters. Ridge is a close second on the hypocrisy end of things.
DeleteI don’t hate Thomas as some would say I do. He has done some awful things. But lately I’ve felt a little sorry for him. Lol. Hope just needs to let him go and move on with her life!!
I felt sorry for thomas even though i can’t stand him at all in so many occasions
DeleteAnd i praised him when he deserved it
But the things he’s do fir me its not some awful things
Its huge and criminal and something i can’t accept fiction or reality
Especially as a mother and a woman
And i agree hope should let him go
But if hope did i wonder what kind of roll he will play
DeleteSince this actor took over the roll all his roll and life is around hope
So if the hope character left for sone reason he will be like meh
What he will do i wonder
Absolutely nothing
Unless these lazy writers come up with a good storyline and stop wasting the actor’s talent
And Steffy is such an Angel yeah, going after every men not available, first Rick and yet she knew her sister was in love with him but that never stopped her... Then Oliver, he was attracted to Hope so Steffy decided that she wanted him, then Liam, he fell in love with Hope and propose to her but, Steffy's words, as a Spencer, he was a good match for her, he will have power and money... And how did she tried to have him? With sex, claiming that Hope was a virgin and couldn't give him what he wanted (because she was already a slut) when it didn't work, she turned to his father, a married man but hey, she is Steffy, she can do what she forbid to others right? Like father like daughter. Finally Bill rejected her so she go back running after Liam.
DeleteAnd guess whom first sent Thomas to Hope??? STEFFFFYYYYYY!!!
Like all the members of her family, she has memory loss, espacially when it suits them...
Then come Wyatt, in love with Hope to, so Steffy couldn't resist to have him. That reminds me of someone.... oh, of course, Taylor... Like mother like daughter. The serial killer seems to want to rule everyone, like granny from hell... Please Hope, tell in her face that she can keep her venom because when you kill people with absolutely no remorse, you can just shut your mouth and keep a low profile!! Now GO LIAM!!! go after her and destroy her marriage, you 2 deserve each other!!
Miss Sushi with both guns blazing 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼it makes me cringe remembering what a slutty brat Steffy used to be back in the day. Sleeping with all the men is one thing but the combination with entitled spoiled brat is 🙈 Lynn, as much as you dislike Steffy now, she is a saint compared to her early days of chasing every man who wanted Hope. She has likeable and mature moments now. Good character development, especially since she married Finn.
DeleteMilla, that’s hard to believe because she is so unlikable now!!! 😬😬😬
DeleteI read something on FB similar to what Miss Sushi posted. She makes a good point that Steffy has sent Thomas to Hope on multiple occasions. I guess Steffy blocked those memories from her mind. Lol.
Oh lynn it was worse than only sending him
DeleteShe suggests that they make hope so so drunk and thomas will sleeps with her and she was still a virgin
So steffy kept sending drinks to them
And hope really lost it and sure thomas tried and luckily for hope liam saw her and saved her
So she set hope to be rapped by thomas and he has no problem of course
All of that just to keep liam
Mmysh, maybe when B&B goes off the air I will finally go back and watch all those old episodes! Thank you for the history lesson. Somehow I knew that Steffy was probably always an entitled brat.
DeleteSo why is all this “past being brought up, I could go to town with Brooke, but then I would be told off that it’s “decades ago” and not related to present, and oh how Brooke has matured despite her horrific past?? But ok!! Must be ok for some not others!!
DeleteColly isn't that *literally* what I said? That Steffy has a character development? Plus it wasn't me or Lynn who brought up her past.
DeleteI think i was telling lynn something related and she doesn’t know
DeleteWe weren’t debating or arguing with anyone
Sure anyone can bring up the past when it’s relevant
TY Bob
ReplyDeleteI agree with Steffy. Every time Thomas tells Hope, he wants to be with her forever. The two proposals...Hope have that loook/expression, she can't commit and have the same level of love like Thomas.
Thomas need someone, that loves him with 100%.
Thomas and Hope made a steamy couple. But seems Hope can't/won't commit to Thomas. Loves him with all her being.
Yeah .. i stil think she should mind her business, but i can see where she is coming from i mean this is getting pathetic 🤦🏾 poor Thomas is even doubting himself in a healthy way this time . Hope better comes true for him or else she proves Steffy right. Especially when talked about douglas his wel being , watching his father being mentally disturbed over a woman who is gonna make the whole shit show start al over again. Hope torpedo'd her whole marriage for Thomas. This better not become a sick joke . If Thomas loses his brain bits over this shit again he wil be the bad guy who tried to hurt poor hope again.
DeleteHighhanded Steffy. Put your own life together with Finn !!
ReplyDeleteYes Brooke did refuse Ridge a few times
ReplyDeleteShe had him doubting feeling guilty and wanting more
Brooke and Hope are the same
It's gona take a lot for Steffy to trust Hope
Thank you Bob xxxx
Yeah the paternity test queen the daughter of the the call girl 🤮🤮🤮
DeleteI will take hope and brook any day 😂😂😂
The daughter of a prostitute has no room to bad mouth anyone’s mother 🤮🤮🤮
DeleteNext week, Hope promises that she is not going to let Steffy come between her and Thomas. She said "I will not allow it."
DeleteHmm, where have we heard that line before? Yes indeed Mandy. Hope has similar traits to Brooke.
Since Hope has come into her own , she has shown a lot of similar traits to Brooke… and Brooke does carry a certain nickname throughout the show, I won’t say it directly as it upsets some, but it’s meaning is very similar to “prostitute”!!!
DeleteYeah colly a name was given from the a baby killer bully witch who thinks she is better than others because she has money
DeleteWhile she is also a cheater
And no its not the same since yeah brook slept with a lot of men but also steffy but tay tay didn’t for money then married one of her johns the one steffy named her son after
So no steffy has no room to bad mouth anyone while having such family members
Mmysh, NO ONE on this show has “room to talk”!! NO ONE..!! And Brooke herself has even referred to herself as that!! Both Brooke and Taylor have had their fare share of men!! But you act as though Taylor is the only one!! Taylor never had an affair with her daughters husband and had his child, and not once but twice.. Yes say it is in the past, just like Taylor’s actions were in the past!! If you bring the past up, so will I!! Sorry, but I find the fact that Brooks having affairs with not one but two of her daughters husbands, and the same daughter, same actions, having a child to one and taking and marrying the SECOND one, faaaarrr worse than Taylor’s actions back then.. So Stephanie gave that nickname to Brooke, Brooke herself has basically admitted and said it about herself, and the difference between Taylor sleeping around and Brooke sleeping with every forrester having a child with almost all them and stealing 2 husbands out from under her daughter , marrying one and having a baby with the other, is it any wonder why the show itself brings it up on a fairly regular basis.. So one should not throw stones should they?
DeleteAnd for the record, I disliked Stephanie a lot!! However, Taylor is no different to Brooke , as in her record sleeping around, and in fact worse where Bridgett is concerned.. Could you Mmysh, have affairs, children with and steal and marry YOUR own daughters husbands?? Two of them?? Just curious?? Because to me, I could not fathom doing that to either of my daughters for my own selfish ego.. could you? Honestly?
DeleteAlso for the record, Steffy hasn’t slept ALOT men, she married Liam and Wyatt, Slept with Bill once, and is now married to Finn.. Compair that Brooke and Taylor, no where near close!! Hope has slept with Liam, Wyatt and now Thomas!! She is only one less than Steffy, so hardly a comparison..
DeleteMy post wasn’t to defend brook or bash taylor
DeleteAll the point was that even though brook is not related to the issue now but hypocrite steffy has to add it to the mix she can’t help herself
With a mother like taylor steffy has no room to talk about brook or any other woman
And yeah taylor slept with rick while her daughter was in love with him and the accident was a result of pheobe catching her with rick but sure since she didn’t got pregnant that make it ok
So do you sleep with your daughter BF or sleep with your father in law just curious 🧐
And at least Brook acknowledged her mistake and never acted like she is Symbol of purity or she is better than everyone like how steffy and Taylor do
And her kids knows about her past
Not like the lies Taylor told her kids
And btw taylor slept with more forrester men but not having their kids doesn’t make her better
Anyway bringing up taylor’s past is related to the episode since steffy Taylor’s daughter brings up hope’s mother past while not related
Its not just to bash taylor
And you rick can be added to steffy too
Oh yes Steffy was ready to marry her uncle Rick. The only time she wasn’t screaming I’m a Forrester 😂
DeleteIndeed milla
DeleteThanks for the laugh dear
I really laughed 😂😂😂
I don't even know how the prostitute comment even came about. Mandy said nothing about Brooke's past sexual liberties. Neither did Steffy. She told Hope that she is just like her mother - selfish, self-centred, running after a Forrester and doesn't care who gets hurt. And really, as much as I like Hope, she did selfishly cheat on Liam while still married to him (as many have pointed out). She fantasized about Thomas for weeks and eventually kissed him in Rome. And again, according to many, Hope was just using Thomas for sex, and hearing him say that she was the only one for him seemed to turn her on. And now, she has refused to commit to him on two occasions.
DeleteAnd as I said above, Brooke's famous line "I will not have it" will be said by Hope. Hope does, in fact, share a lot of similar traits to Brooke so once again, I'm not sure what Steffy's mother being a prostitute (which she is not) has to do with anything.
Mmysh, I remember when you first came to this board, you said that you used to read the comments but could not post and the lies you saw on here frustrated you because you could not respond. Yet, you continuously post lies about the characters yourself. Thomas is a murderer and now Taylor is a prostitute. Both lies!
Its not a lie
DeleteYou can check that out
She was a call girl sleep with men for money
What is the name for that ?? Right ??
And her husband which steffy named her son after was one of her clients
So no dear it not lies
And the post is not even about Taylor
Its about saying she is like her mother and coming from whom … steffy the daughter of taylor … what a joke 😂😂
And thomas is a murderer to me and to a lot of the show fans like millions
DeleteSo no it not a lie
And sure you can see him not a murderer but at the end of the day he is
And a man who is is welling to drug women to sleep with them
Or make them drunk
What we call that 🤔
Yes, he is a murderer to you but not according to the show. Just like Taylor is not a prostitute according to the show so yeah, both lies.
DeleteYou may feel that Thomas is a murderer however, that is not true according to the show. Just like Taylor being a prostitute is not true according to the show. They are both lies that you continue to tell.
DeleteAnd Thomas never drugged anyone or tried to get them drunk. That's another lie that you also continue to tell.
BTW, does B&B even have millions of fans? Somehow, I don't think so. Yet another lie. Not because you feel something, then express it means it's true.
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DeleteI don't suppose it would be possible to get a source for your claim that millions of fans believe Thomas is a murderer? I'm guessing no, as it's likely you just made up that number.
DeleteElle, I didn't see anything in Mandy's post about prostitute either. I can't really comment on that as I don't know the whole history. Did Taylor have sex with men for money? That's what I call a prostitute.
DeleteFor all the "millions" of fans who say Thomas murdered Emma, there are millions who say he didn't "murder" her. So no point in bringing that up all the time.
Just tried to post twice. Going to wait awhile see of it shows up.
Delete😂😂😂😂
DeleteWhatever suits you ren
There is a lot of fans on social media a lot of groups of the show
And people write what they believe
Or maybe they don’t have the right to have an opinion when it comes to ted oh sorry thomas
You can go and check
And its not an exact number 😂😂😂 btw but it logical thinking just like there is a million people support thomas a million does not, no rocket science
But yeah you can think it only me 😆
I also know what I read on social media. I'm pretty sure that millions of fans also would *not* classify Thomas as a murderer, so that argument goes both ways.
DeleteAnd that’s exactly what i said in my post above 🤗
DeleteSo its not only me as you liked to imply
I really wasn't implying anything Mmysh. I was just saying that "lots of people agree with me" is not a good argument. Sheesh.
Delete
DeleteRen ChenMarch 21, 2024 at 2:43 PM
I don't suppose it would be possible to get a source for your claim that millions of fans believe Thomas is a murderer? I'm guessing no, as it's likely you just made up that number.
That’s implying exactly what i meant
And i already said a lot of people thinks that thomas is honest
And I didn’t want to argue at the first place but god forbid how can we talk about saint tommy boy
Which I didn’t brought him up also
But yeah it happens… Sheesh
Uuuummm . . . I was actually trying to make a point about hyperbole. But, okay, I hereby apologize for accidentally implying that you are the only person in the world who believes Thomas is a murderer.
DeleteThanks 🙏
Delete@Ren @Elle, you have to bow down to Mmysh and Lynn....Mmysh has become MORE hateful than Lynn 😂😂😂😂 only their opinions matter 😂😂😂 they really need to grow up 😂😂😂 I recon Mmysh is Lynn just under a different name 😂😂😂 equally mental 😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮
DeleteInteresting conspiracy theory, unknown, but I'm pretty sure Lynn and Mmysh are actually two separate people. Their styles of writing are very different.
DeleteLittle u - the only one here who appears mental is YOU! Always lurking in the shadows like some predator instead of ever having even just one opinion of the show. Where I come from they refer to that behavior as CREEPY!!! Get a dang life!!
DeleteAnd only a fool would believe that Mmysh and I are the same person.
I don’t know 1/10th of what she knows about the history of the show!!
Now be a good little stalker and hit the road! NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE!!!!
Oh lynn since we are the same person i sent you a msg i mean to myself 😂😂😂
DeleteOn messenger check it
And as i told you before do give the flies attention that’s what it dying for
Mmysh, I just can’t stand that little troll. 🧌. Sometimes I feel the need to fire back. Oh and I can’t check messenger. That email address associated with my account is actually my dad’s. Lol.
DeleteGosh - having this conversation with myself seems so odd. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah i like myself,
DeleteMyself seems to be a very nice beautiful woman ❤️❤️
You absolutely are Mmysh!! ❤️❤️
DeleteThanks lynn
DeleteBut i was talking about you since you are me 😂😂
no B&B tomorrow or friday this sucks ; {. with all the sports channels why?
ReplyDeleteWell, now Liam and Carter are saying the same things I have been saying for months! Sure, Thomas is acting great right now, but what’s gonna happen when Hope dumps him and evil Thomas returns??!! Duh - exactly!!!!!! That may be foreshadowing or maybe the writers just threw that in there and nothing will come from it….like the Xander appearance. What a waste that was!!
ReplyDelete“Using, abusing and taking for granted.”….I have to agree with Steffy on those points. They are valid.
Well Brooke never answered Thomas, but she did continue to be kind and understanding.
I have to laugh at Ridge….he totally defends Steffy’s concern when Thomas tells Ridge what she said. But if Brooke even hinted at not wanting the two of them together, she would get a 10 minute lecture from Ridge about how Thomas has changed.
Dark Thomas may be returning sooner rather than later. 😁😁😁
Good. Lord. October of 2022. That's the last time Thomas was a baddie. That's when he called CPS using the voice-changing software to frame Brooke. That was almost 18 months ago. Good. Lord.
DeleteLynn I also believe this crash of Thope won't be without consequences. And like you've said a few times - it's easy to be good when all he wants falls into his lap. What would he have to fight or scheme for when he has Hope? I'm not particularly impressed that he hasn't committed an illegal or malicious activity during the best times of his life.
DeleteHe is not going to backslide. You will see.
DeleteAnd Thope is not over. You will see.
DeleteMilla, exactly. I am very interested to see how the next weeks play out. It ought to be good and worth watching! I wish the show was going to be on for the balance of the week. We’ll all be looking forward to next week’s episodes. 😊
DeleteEspecially considering no show tomorrow and on Fri Lynn😀
DeleteRen, I don’t think Hope and Thomas are over just yet either, but only because lots of drama is on the horizon. I’m definitely thinking they won’t survive this. I don’t think the writers ever intended them to be the next “Destiny couple.” It’s too incestuous and wrong on so many levels. All of which have been brought up a thousand times.
DeleteAs far as your date of October ‘22….that may have been when Thomas actually made the call, but for months we had to watch Thomas’ diabolical plan play out. He lied to everyone, and most importantly…..right to Ridge’s face well after October ‘22! You are welcome to be as optimistic as you want about Thope. But I’m betting this is the beginning of a new and dark chapter. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Agree Ren. I think Thomas is in a place now to handle it. I also don't think the relationship is over. They will work it out, if everyone buts out.
DeleteLynn there probably will be problems in the relationship at some point. That's what the base of the show is about. I really don't think he will go back to the "darkside".
DeleteI looked it up. Late November of 2022 is when the truth came out about the CPS call. Since then, there has been zero indication of Thomas returning to his dark ways.
DeleteWell I think that’s all about to change, Ren.
DeleteCan I just say that Carter is way too big for that wee chair he was sitting on. Lol!
DeleteOh Brooke! She will never admit to Thomas that her daughter truly loves him. She was understanding with him though.
I also have to say that it was more of the same with Steffy today however, she made some good points. And btw, who is Hope to demand that Steffy stay out of her and Thomas' business when just last week she was all up in Steffy's face telling her how she (Steffy) should be with her (Steffy's) husband. Hope acted as though she knew what was better for Finn than his own wife knows. Come on, Hope!
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DeleteElle, good point about Hope and Steffy. Every character on this show gets in everybody else's business all the time. And yes, Carter in that little chair was comical!
DeleteHonestly, what’s the point of even arguing about it? I think like I think, and you think like you think. No one actually knows yet. And I’m simply bringing it up on today’s episode because Liam and Carter were saying it too.
DeleteElle, I was laughing about Carter in that toddler seat as well. Too funny!!! He’s a big boy for sure! Carter is the hottest guy on the show.
DeleteLynn, I really wasn't trying to argue. I was the just pointing out what I see as a clear lack of evidence to support your predictions. Of course we can all have our opinions. But it's important to remember what has actually happened and what has not happened-- the actual plot points on the show.
DeleteLynn, he certainly is. Oh my goodness.... Wow! 😍😍😍
DeleteRen, fair enough. But history is an excellent predictor of the future. Just sayin’.
DeleteLynn, ironically enough, that is exactly my point as well. It's just that you're looking at older history, and I'm looking at more recent history.
DeleteRen, Thomas has been “troubled” for a good majority of his adult life. So I think looking at that vs just the past year + is more predictable. But who knows - maybe Thomas will surprise the hell out of me and stay a good guy?? All I really care about is Hope getting out of that relationship with him. I think they should be friends - not husband and wife. Like I said in previous comments, I actually feel kind of sorry for him right now. Thomas will always be the one who worships the ground Hope walks on….and that makes for a lopsided relationship. I have to admit I was wrong in thinking Hope would never say the “I love you” words. That was wishful thinking on my part. Because seeing them in a sexual relationship has always been disgusting to me.
DeleteYou just have to understand how "soap world" works. Thomas essentially had a personality transplant in December of 2022, because the writers decided Hope and Liam had been together long enough, and it was time to put her with someone else. The best choice at the time was Thomas, but in order to make it even *remotely* believable, they had to make him more a good guy than a bad guy. Hence the more recent history is more significant (again, in "soap world"; the real world is different).
DeleteWell, my “soap world” experience is limited to the last 5 plus years of B&B. So clearly I’m no expert on this alternate universe you speak of. But what I have learned in my time watching is that sometimes things are predictable and sometimes things aren’t. And it ain’t over till the fat lady sings! Lol.
DeleteI've been watching soaps since the the mid-90s. I'm a total pro. I could teach college classes on soaps. In fact, that would be my dream job, if it existed.
DeleteRen, you do realize that if you end up being wrong about Thomas, I’m gonna need to throw that up in your face since you’ve proclaimed to be the expert. 😬😬😬
DeleteOh I know Lynn, believe me. That should give you an indication of how confident I am that Thomas is not going to backslide.
DeleteLol. Well from an entertainment standpoint….its always good to have a villain. And I’m thinking Thomas is the best one to fill that role, esp since Sheila is supposedly dead. I think she’s really gone, but there’s been speculation by some that she’s still alive and will make her 25th return to the show.
DeleteI sooooooo hope that speculation is not true. Sheila really needs to stay dead this time. I agree this show needs a good villain, but I don't think it's gonna be Thomas. Zende is sneaky, but he's not exactly villainous. Li has potential, but she's only focused on Luna and Poppy. Liam also has great villain potential, but he's currently not living up to it. But I think one or some combination of those three is their best bet to be the next baddie.
DeleteThose other characters are too situation specific to be “villainous” if you ask me. And Liam, well he just looks pathetic to me these days. It’s truly hard to believe he used to be one of my favorite characters on the show. He is so annoying now.
DeleteI am so sad Wyatt is gone.
Yes, they would definitely have to broaden their scope to make any of those characters into a true villain. I think Li would be the best choice because she's just so mean. Plus, doctors always make good villains because they can mess with test results and stuff like that. I also wish they would bring back Wyatt.
DeleteSteffy becomes Shilla 😀😀😀😀
ReplyDeleteShe is worse in so many ways
DeleteAnd it seems like the whinny steffy over oh i took a life is over like it never happened 🤮🤮🤮
TY Bob.
ReplyDeleteI'm just gonna say it: stupid March Madness! Who even cares about basketball? 🏀
ReplyDeleteThere are tons of sport channels broadcasting it. Why interrupt programming on regular channels? 😠
DeleteWe want our soaps, never mind Sports.
DeleteCBS always prioritizes sports over regular programming. It sucks!! 😡😡😡
DeleteI care about basketball the college and pro version and big 3 so I think someone does care
DeleteMy favorite lines from today's episode were when Hope said to Steffy: "We share a son & that alone should be enough for you to back off. How dare you. How dare you interfere."
ReplyDeleteI felt that Hope's was not only angry about Steffy interfering today, but also angry about Steffy interfering in her marriage to Liam. Once again, Steffy was interfering in Hope's relationship. Hope is not taking that crap any more!
Renee, it would be so cool to see Hope actually slap Steffy. They showed that scene at the end of a potential altercation. Would love to see those two scrap. That’s been a long time coming.
DeleteIt would be awesome television! 😂
DeleteI don't want a cake or paint fight either. (Like their mothers fought.) Just one good slap that leaves a handprint on Steffy's cheek! 😂
C'mon, Hope, you know you have wanted to do this for a long time! 😂
Agreed, I would love to see a cat fight between those two, like Taylor and Brooke!!
DeleteI think Thomas will be just fine. The only thing that could "potentially" cause him to completely and permanently lose control and go back to the dark side again would be for Hope, somehow, to end up with Finn and commit to him when it took him a lifetime just to get a kiss from her, not to mention that famous "I love you"😁😁
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Thomas will be fine as well. He's not as fragile as everyone thinks he is. Thank goodness Taylor isn't in this mess as she would have added even more drama to the situation.
DeleteExcitements for next week. Steffy and Hope duke it out over Thomas! Hope is standing up for her man. 💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
Steffy is such a bitch....she didn't like it when Hope was telling her about how Finn was feeling about Sheila being killed by her, the queen of 💩...and now she thinks she can stick her nose into Hope &Thomas's relationship🤬...what a bitch... Thank you Bob ❤️...
ReplyDeleteSo Hope will try to slap Steffy and Steffy will press the "Rambo mode" and stop her with just one hand? Now Steffy thinks she is some kind of hero and everyone is waiting for her and her super power to save the day? Haha ha! Can't wait!
ReplyDeleteShe's displaying traits of her grandmother, Stephanie. Wasn't there a similar scene with Stephanie and Brooke back in the day?
DeleteA lot of parallels to the old Bell Snr days for sure. Thomas/Hope being the new Ridge/Brooke and Steffy/Hope as Stephanie/Brooke. Exciting times.
And I'm almost sure that Sheila will return and we'll see Finn ecstatic that his "mom" is alive! Much to Steffy's chagrin.
Exactly! And the other thing that makes me believe that Thomas won't go dark again is that Hope seems to be ready to fight to save her relationship with Thomas (for a change) and it seems like Thomas is ready to make a step back
DeleteI have to say, I am both disappointed but at the same time, not surprised , that Brooke didn’t answer Thomas’s questions honestly, and tell him what Hope told her.. But she was gentle with him at least.. As for Liam, now he is all of a sudden worried about Hope?? Even still, he didn’t seem that concerned about them being in a relationship, but rather , what Thomas might do if she eventually leaves him, and seems oh so confident she will!! I would love to see the look on Liam’s face if Hope were to tell him shd loves Thomas, because he seems to think she will never love him, and will be hung up over him the rest of her life.. He also said nothing about Beth!! So I guess he isn’t that concerned with Thomas as stepdad!! At least he admitted he has seen the change in Thomas, although still wary!! That was big of him to admit!!
ReplyDeleteI wish Ridge wouldn’t have walked in…..that kind of derailed the discussion a bit. But admittedly, Thomas asked the question again, and Brooke didn’t respond. She should have been honest with Thomas, I agree.
DeleteI agree Lynn!! She had every opportunity to tell him what Hope told her , but she didn’t, she played dumb, then got upset that Steffy gave Thomas advice.. it was like how dare she!! So if Brooke felt that way about the advice Steffy gave, if she didn’t agree with it, then she should have set things straight and told Thomas what Hope told her.. so why didn’t she then?? She has no right to be upset at Steffy, when she herself is not able to admit to Thomas the things Hope told her!!
DeleteBrooke is not in the easiest position here. She will never completely trust Thomas when it comes to her daughter considering what he put her through (and Brooke herself). So it is understandable that she is cautious to jump on the Thope wagon and start saying how much Hope loves Thomas. It will take time for Brooke to accept them (and honestly, if she doesn't, I won't blame her. I wouldn't even look at someone who has done this to my daughter let alone be as cordial as Brooke is already). What she has shown already is plenty for Brooke.
DeleteDang it, my comments aren’t posting again. Ugh!
DeleteColly, I agree with what Milla said above. Brooke is in a tough position. And I still think it would have gone differently if Ridge hadn’t walked in. Brooke is trying to be open minded. And her approach has not been cruel or mean (like Steffy’s approach). So yeah, Brooke could have told him. But I understand why she didn’t.
I'm having the same problem. I posted a few comments earlier. Just got home, checked. Still hasn't posted. First time I'm having this problem. So it's not just me?
DeleteD - I have been having the same problem for the last few days. Then I try multiple times to post it, so hours later it looks like I commented the same thing 5 times. Too funny.
DeleteI just tried to repost to an earlier comment (after 3 tries) this time with the laptop. Still not showing..😡 I give up, glad it's not just me
DeleteI love these comment sections with all of you, it's so comforting to open and see new comments to read 🤗🤗
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DeleteOMG. Steffi is nothing but a self opinionated bitch.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't she show more concern to her husband's mental health ATM than get herself involved in Thomas and Hope's affairs. I understand she has worries about Thomas ATM but honestly for a woman who just killed her mother in law, shouldn't she be more worried about Finn and where his head is at and her own peace of mind? I sincerely wish that Hope would slap some sense into her!
Also, when you factor in that Steffy is the one that setup the work scenario (Thomas being designer on HFTF) where Thomas & Hope worked many long days together which lead to their romance. The relationship wouldn't of happened if boss Steffy hadn't allowed/encouraged their working together. Steffy has ownership in this too...
DeleteExactly renee it’s no allowed or encouraged it was forced
DeleteBut yeah she do no wrong
Its always a logen’s fault
If she could blame a logen for her killing sheila she would
Sorry Renee, but I have to say, it’s unfair to say oh if Steffy didn’t rehire Thomas on HFTF again, this wouldn’t have happened.. Seriously!! NO ONE would expect, that of all people, Hope would fall in love with Thomas!! Hope went after Thomas, not the other way around.. Thomas was being completely professional and respectful of Hope and her marriage.. No one would have foreseen this.. it’s not anyone’s fault this happened.. It’s so bloody ridiculous to blame Steffy for this!! And for the record, Steffy did not force Hope to bring Thomas back on, she gave Hope the choice.. Other world class designers including Eric and Zende who has worked on the line for years, tried to work on her line and it was going down the toilet.. The logical choice was to bring Thomas back.. Or the line was going to die.. No one forced it, it was Hopes decision in the end.. but sure, blame anyone but Hope!!
DeleteNO Mmysh, it was NOT forced!! Hope was given the choice and final decision.. She could have said no!! Simple!! Mmysh, you always accuse people of lying, yet here you are, doing the same thing.. It was Hopes final decision.. No one forced anyone to do anything 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ seriously!! If this isn’t just Steffy hate at its core , I don’t know what is?? What is it you always say, logic??
Delete👏👏👏 👍just want to see if this posts. Nothing else will for me. Getting frustrating
DeleteSo how that lying exactly
DeleteWell when some say brook paid some to rape amber well that’s a lie
But what i said it wasn’t not even close
Yes steffy forced thomas on hope
Its my opinion and how i see it
Its not a lie just because you are not seeing it that way
So if my boss told me you need to go on this trip or you will be fired
And i dont want lose my job and cant lose my job
So I HAVE TO GO ON THIS TRIP
this is forcing the trip on me its not a choice
Sure you can see it as a choice and you have the right to
But i dont
So its about how you see things
Its not a lie
And i don’t what is wrong with hating a character
You said it like we are not allowed to
Or its something bad
So yeah logic is important
I don’t put it aside to fool myself about a character i want to defend their disgusting behavior
Something you should try from time to time ❤️
D I been having the same issue, and then sometimes it appears later and I have to delete multiple comments and sometimes doesn’t appear at all, I think everyone having this issue??
DeleteMmysh, there’s nothing wrong with hating a character.. But when you say something about them that is absolutely *untrue* , because you dislike them, then that’s just being hateful.. Steffy did NOT FORCE Hope to bring Thomas back.. The line was drowning badly, despite having two other world class designers working on it.. From a business perspective, it was not viable to “keep on trying” with other designers and pouring ALOT of money into something that was “not making any profit”… Steffy didn’t want it to fail, and you can’t deny that, so she made the only “suggestion” that made sense, to bring Thomas back onto the line.. She did not say to Hope, “that’s it Thomas is back on, wether u like it or not”… She made the “suggestion”, and told Hope the “final decision is hers to make”.. Hope said no to begin with because of Liam, then realised she didn’t want to lose her line and career just because Liam didn’t want Thomas near Hope, even though, Thomas did nothing to Hope at the time, it was Brooke.. So Hope changed her mind and brought Thomas back.. NO ONE FORCED her to do that.. Please tell me where Steffy said, sorry Hope , I am bringing Thomas back on the line , wether you like it or not?? So no, Mmysh, there was no forcing Hope to bring him back.. Ultimately, SHE decided that.. Those are the FACTS!! Of course your entitled to your opinions, however, if I were to accuse Brooke or a character I disliked of something that was “untrue”, then you would tell me I am lying and your here to set me straight!! FACT, Steffy did NOT force Hope to bring Thomas back.. It was her decision and hers alone!! It was suggested..
DeleteIt’s nothing to do with me seeing it differently to you, or defending a character.. I am talking about outright facts here!!
DeleteStill its not something untrue
DeleteIt depends how you see things
So why steffy didn’t agree about bringing thomas back the first time hope suggested it
Oh yeah because she was upset with him and they weren’t on a good terms
But then they sat and fixed their issues so yeah come back to work how convenient
And yeah you can hate brook and criticize her and her acting from your POINT OF VIEW
I will not and don’t have the right to tell you you are lying
i can agree or disagree
But saying things didn’t even happened to bash her well that is lying big difference
So few of us here seeing that steffy forced thomas on hope are we all lying or that’s only me huh 🤔
And isn’t brook hope’s mother and Douglas is her son
So yeah thomas did do something to hope when he did that to her mother snd son
And still its not a fact
DeleteIts not 1+1 = 2
So not its a fact to you
But its not a fact at all
According to your logic, and example of you being forced to go on a trip if you don’t want to lose your job, is nothing like the situation with Hope “choosing” to bring Thomas back.. So from a business perspective, how would you yourself, after trying other designers and the line still going downhill and “losing lots of money on wages, materials, designers etc” , trying everything already, losing money, no profits, what would you have done in Steffy’s position to save Hopes line, considering the copious amounts of money already lost, what would you have done in Steffy’s position as CEO?? I am curious?
DeleteAnd again which is so important since steffy really care about her brother sanity especially it was also her mother while its her specialty
DeleteObsession patients shouldn’t be put in position to be around their subject of obsession
Well that is fact
But they did it anyway
Mmysh your statement, “ But saying things didn’t even happened to bash her well that is lying”.. Fact, Steffy did not force Hope to bring Thomas back on the line.. that is “FACT”.. Again, I ask you, as I did just above.. considering all the “facts” the line was dead, losing copious amounts of money, you tried bringing other designers, nothing is working, from a business standpoint, what would you have done if you were in Steffy’s position as CEO?? I am curious to know love??
DeleteWell i give my employees two impossible choices
DeleteAnd then tell them to pick one
Btw im not saying what steffy did was wrong business wise
Or yeah family wise since she and her brother found the love 😂
How convenient
Im talking about hope’s position in the situation
Which as i said it depends how i see it
So its not a lie or untrue
As you like to make it
Again, no “they didn’t”, it was Hopes decision!! That’s fact!! It was suggested, and you still havnt answered my question about what you would have done in Steffy’s shoes??
DeleteSo its just me lying or everyone who sees it that way ???
DeleteBecause im sure a few of us her see it that way
A few days someone even used an ultimatum
I didn’t see you telling them they are lying
Or its just against me i wonder 🤔
I answered you 😂😂😂
DeleteLike 15 minutes ago
“Hopes position” as it stood at that time was that everything else had been tried but failed, so it was “Hopes choice” to lose her line or go with Thomas.. “FACT she chose to go with Thomas”.. you said you would give your employee two choices, and they chose which one.. Whoch is what Steffy did!! Hope “chose to bring Thomas on”, she was NOT FORCED.. wether or not Steffy found the love with Thomas or not, has nothing to do with it, Hope was faced with losing her line sadly or being Thomas back, that’s was HER choice, so I ask again, how was it FORCED on her??
DeleteNo Mmysh, it’s not against you, I don’t remember anyone saying that the other, I responded to both Renee and you.. I am not targeting you 🤣🤣🤣 I just disagreed that Hops was FORCED to work Thomas, because she wasn’t and that is fact!! You said to Renee, that “it was no allowed/encouraged it was forced” and I disagreed!! We are debating here, nothing more!! I am not targeting you.. if you don’t want to debate this, you don’t have to!! ❤️
DeleteI responded to Renee first then you, she didn’t respond back, but you did and we ended up in this debate.. nothing sinister here love!
DeleteFor me giving people as in real life not only fiction even if its like 10 choices
DeleteAnd the 10 are as bad as each other its forcing
And it depends how people see things
Its not something maths clear
And btw the way a lot a lot of people at that time share my opinion
So i dont think they all lying
So dear its not a fact its something debatable
So sheila shot steffy and finn that’s a fact you will not see anyone like zero saying she didn’t
Yeah sure we will find some make excuses but that doesn’t change that she shot them and its a fact
What happened here is different
Even in the a lot of articles and magazines writing about the show said steffy and Taylor forced thomas on hope
Not only fans on social media
And sure there was a lot of articles and fans disagreed and shared your opinion
So there is no facts here
There is a debate of how you see things
So for me she forced hope
For you she didn’t and that’s ok
Now my comments are not appearing
DeleteLet me explain for the last time how i see it
DeleteIts nice to know things about each other
So if someone told me that im going to kill u but you have 2 choices
With cutting your throat
Or you taking an overdose of sleeping pills
So yeah i will choose the sleeping pills because its not painful but im still gone
So I can’t say oh they gave me a choice and it was my decision
I did not blame Steffy. I said she had ownership in this too meaning it was not just Hope & Thomas. Steffy made a decision which set the stage where it was convenient for a relationship to blossom between Hope & Thomas - literally in the office on the couch! Both Hope & Thomas wanted the relationship & they are 2 consenting adults. My point was that we don't know what would have happened if Steffy hadn't decided to allow Thomas to return to FC. I suspect HFTF would have been cancelled. Unknown what Hope would have done careerwise at that point. I suspect Thomas was going to be allowed back in the family business eventually. We don't know whether or not Hope & Thomas would be a couple if Steffy hadn't changed her mind about Thomas & gave him another chance. Hope & Thomas owe Steffy gratitude for allowing them to work together as all the time together led to their romance.
DeleteRennie, I get what your saying, but I still don’t see it as has Steffy has any ownership over their relationship.. No one could have predicted of all people, Hope would go after Thomas and throw her marriage and family away for him.. Hope was supposedly happily married to the love of her life and had a family with Liam at the time!! It was a given that Thomas loved Hope, he always has and Hope knew that when she made the decision to bring him back.. Thomas had started and been in therapy when he started back on HFTF.. He told Steffy and Hope he would be on his best behaviour and was.. Ultimately Steffy did the only thing she could from a business standpoint, and she “gave Hope the suggestion and CHOICE” wether to bring Thomas back or not.. and that’s as far as it goes for Steffies involvement.. So you can’t say she has ownership in this..
DeleteAnd again Mmysh, fact, Steffy gave Hope the decision to make, fact, no where did she say, sorry hope but I am bringing Thomas back on the line and you just have to deal with.. Please show me where and how exactly Steffy said any such thing, to force her, then I will agree it was forced!! And sorry, just because someone agrees with you, does not make it “true”!!
DeleteIts not about what steffy said
DeleteNo wonder you are concentrating on it
Its about the options themselves
And the circumstances around them
But so no dear as i said its not a fact
And its not in my opinion and a lot of other people some lie or unture
But sure you can see it as you like
And its the same for me
Colly, from a business prospective I agree. Steffy gave her the decision about her line. Many other designers tried their best but it wasn't working. So the decision was up to Hope to save the line. She knew at the time Thomas was the only designer to see her vision, she talked to Liam about it, no support there, so she made the decision herself to keep her dream line going, Thomas was the only one that could save it.
DeleteExactly D!! Steffy “gave Hope the final say”, she could have said no!! And she did to begin with, because of Liam!! Steffy did not argue the fact.. She had no choice from a business perspective to place the line on “hold”, by the way, she didn’t even cancel it!! Ultimately Hope changed her mind!! Steffy did not fight any of Hope decisions/CHOICES!! She took Hopes lead!! No where , nowhere, did she give Hope an ultimatum and “FORCE” Hope to bring Thomas back!! Simple as that.. And it can be debated until the cows come home.. And just because another Steffy hater agrees with an already Steffy hater, makes it “true”.. It’s all good and well to say “well that’s mine and others “opinions”, it does not make it true!! And anytime a Logan hater said something that was factually untrue, we were told we are liars, and set straight, wether other Logan haters agreed with it or not, and wether that was “just our opinion or not”!!! So in this situation, the FACTS are was Hope was NOT FORCED to do anything she didn’t want to do!! It’s just that simple!! But those who have said if said if someone says something that is “untrue” just to bash the character, is a liar”, then do it themselves, and “claim, that’s it’s just their opinion, and other haters “happen to agree”, as an excuse to hate, and not be called out for lying”, sorry, but just cause it’s your opinion and some other haters agree and it “it’s their opinion, so that means it “true”, sorry, how convenient.. So next I hate on a character just for the hell of it, and the “FACTS” are so obvious it’s a lie, I will just use the same excuse, “well it’s not a lie , bdcause it just my opinion, and how I see things, and by the way, some fellow haters agree with me, so no it’s not a lie, or they must all be lying”!! Despite the facts saying the opposite!! 🤥🤥🤦♀️🤦♀️ 🤣🤣
DeleteTotally agree with you Colly. Or...am I lying 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI agree with Mmysh, Hope’s choices that Steffy gave her absolutely sucked! There was NO GOOD OPTION. Hope did NOT want to bring Thomas back. But she was told that was her only choice if her line was going to be saved! So what option did she really have???
DeleteHope was put in an impossible position. That’s the truth no matter how you slice it. So Hope did the only thing she could do to save her line….bring Thomas back. She was NOT happy about it.
The fact that Hope started daydreaming about Thomas was so completely absurd. It made zero logical sense. Just like the Steffy fans think Finn’s reaction to Sheila’s death makes zero logical sense. The writing is just awful on this show. They have completely and totally run out of ideas. So pretty much anything goes. 😞😞😞
DeleteHe was the only designer that could save the line. He had the eye for her visions. Others tried, it didn't work. Hope still had the choice, but it was losing money. So as a business, it would have been canned unless she herself could find a designer to save it.
DeleteSteffy should have allowed more time to find the right designer for Hope. I am sure Thomas is not the only person on the planet that can understand Hope’s vision. Steffy just has no patience.
DeleteHope was completely backed into a corner. And so she chose what she felt would the least painful choice.
DeleteIt’s like the tale of the mother who is told one of her children has to die and she has to choose which one. OK, that’s a bit of an exaggeration….but just trying to make a point.
That depends on how long is was losing money for. It's hard to judge that in soap time, but to a company it doesn't take long to see prospective buyers losing interest and make a decision to can it or keep losing money.
DeleteLol..that's a real exaggeration and not the same point.
DeleteThey didn’t even talk about designers they had tried out other than Zende and Eric. It’s simply ridiculous that Thomas is the only person in the world who understands Hope’s vision. Sorry, I’m not buying it.
DeleteAnd my exaggeration / example was simply to say that Hope was given an impossible choice. Just like Mmysh pointed out above.
Just tired of the lazy, lame writing. We all know anyone can be replaced in business. Absolutely none of us are irreplaceable. So it’s completely ridiculous to assume no one can design for Hope other than Thomas. Especially when they bring RJ in and within 5 mins he is already a top Forrester designer!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. The whole premise behind Thomas being the only person who could design for HFTF is crazy!
DeleteSorry Lynn, but the whole point here is wether Steffy FORCED Hope to work with Thomas.. Shd did NOT!! Simple.. There were great efforts put into the line, including Eric a world class designer, and Zende, who should know Hopes vision , having worked on it for years!! But to no avail!! Steffy told Hope the line was failing badly and they were losing a lot of ones trying to keep it going, and no profits, only losses.. She didn’t want it to fail, she was compassionate to Hope.. She said it would be “shelved” not canned.. which was something Steffy didn’t have to do.. There were efforts made to save it for a long time, with Eric and Zende.. So the options were limited.. Steffy made “a suggestion, the only one that viable at the time, NOT a “demand”, told Hope it “HER CHOICE”, she said no, to begin with because of Liam, then changed her mind!! Those were HER choices.. At no time, did Steffy say, even though it’s your line, I am bringing Thomas back on, whether you like it or not!! That would have been Forced”.. The FACTS SHOW that Hope was NOT FORCED to do anything.. Come on, we are supposed to be intelligent women here?? I understand what the meaning of the word FORCEd means, and I am sure you and Mmysh do to, but it seems, that you ladies can’t look past the hate for Steffy to admit that she did not “force” anything on Hope!! The “Facts” clearly show Hope was NOT FORCED to do anything!! The decision was hers and hers alone.. great efforts and expenses were already made to keep it going for some time, so saying they need to give time for Hope to find a designer had already been tried and failed miserably!! But the point of this debate is about wether Hope was forced to do something, and the facts of what happened, according to what the meaning of the word “forced” means, clearly did NOT happen!! It’s really that simple🤦♀️🤦♀️
DeleteAnd for the record Lynn, it was actually Hope who said to bring Thomas back, and Steffy argued against it!! Admittedly Steffy had her own issues with Thomas at that time, but Hope was the one who suggested it in the first place!! Which proves my point even more!
DeleteColly, show me in my comments where I used the word “forced.” I didn’t say ‘forced’ once. So why is that in caps as though I made a point to say that when I never used that word?!
DeleteAnd because it’s soap world - none of us know how long they tried with other designers (Zende and Eric.) It could have been weeks or months. None of us know. And it doesn’t take away from my point that Thomas is not the only person on the planet who can design dresses for that line. As I already stated - no one is irreplaceable. So for us to believe that Thomas supposedly is the only designer who “understands the vision” would insult our intelligence.
And it was NOT Hope’s idea to bring Thomas back. That is what Steffy proposed and Hope said no. I think every single one of us arguing about this needs to go back and watch those 3 - 4 episodes when this all happened. You and Elle both use the words shelved and paused. But there were many references made by many people over the course of those episodes. It was stated that the line would be cancelled, paused, shelved, discontinued, etc by different actors. Thomas, Steffy, Hope, Liam, Taylor and Brooke all weighed in on the future of HFTF. And depending on who was saying it, different things were said in reference to the potential discontinuation of the line.
So for us to believe that Thomas supposedly is the only designer who “understands the vision” would insult our intelligence.
DeleteAbsolutely!
And I know people love to argue about the word "shelved", the bottom line is that Hope, when explaining to Liam multiple times afterwards, said "I would have lost my line, my career".
In the end it was her stupidity that cost her her marriage and family, which I really didn't expect from her. After that, it was cathartic to see her regret it and try Liam to take her back, but too little too late. Now there will be no Liam and no Thomas for her. Maybe some singledom will do her good.
Please upload Thursdays episode
ReplyDeleteB&B doesn’t air Thursday or Friday this week.
DeleteCollege basketball is on today and Tomorrow no bold is on , it says it under the bold writing no episodes
ReplyDeleteHi Bob, hope you are well. Video says it has been removed. Would be great if you can republish when you get a moment! thanks in advance!
ReplyDeleteA little sneak peek to tide us over 😂https://www.instagram.com/reel/C409uegP_bJ
ReplyDeleteThanks Milla!! 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteThank you too Milla. Steffy needs to go punch a pillow and get out of Thomas's head space. He just admitted he should have probably given her more time. I hope he goes and talks this over with Hope instead of listening to everyone else.
Delete🥰 loved Thomas in that clip.
DeleteLadies, looks like next week is going to be very interesting based on the spoilers.
DeleteAhh Lynn fill us in.what did you hear? Don't have time to look for spoilers. Hopefully something unexpected.
DeleteAgree 💯 D.. Steffy needs to stay out of it.. I get she loves her brother and it hurts her to see him hurting, but it’s between him and Hope..
DeleteWell it doesn’t look like Steffy has any plans to stay out of it. She will be in full insertion mode next week. And it looks like Thomas may start listening to his little sis. Also, there’s supposed be some drama between Ridge and Brooke as they each take their kid’s side in this whole Thope mess. And of course there’s more Steffy / Hope fighting to come.
Delete😂😂😂 let the cat scragg begin!!?? Forgive me Colly, had to do it.
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DeleteAccording to spoilers, it looks like Thomas is going to be an idiot and listen to Steffy and break up with Hope. Which means I am DONE with this show, and this blog. I'll be back when they reconcile.
Delete😡 No you won't Ren. You'll be missed and you'll miss us. Lynn said the same thing if Thomas and Hope got together. You'll keep watching.🙂
DeleteD, I'll miss the debates on here. And obviously I'm not done commenting *quite yet* (🤣). But I can't handle all the heartbreak that is coming next week, so I definitely will not be watching. It's just too depressing. Let's hope I get the job I interviewed for today, so at least I'll have a nice distraction. 🤞🤞🤞
DeleteRen, you won’t be going anywhere love!! You will b missed if you do!! And D, no sorry or forgiveness needed 🤣🤣🤣 I said it myself 🤣🤣🤣 that’s an Aussie slang term for women who get into physical fights!! Not that I think I would want a full physical fight to happen, but maybe a slap or two!!
Delete"Thomas announces a life-changing decision" and "Steffy is pleased with her glorious victory" - interesting!!
DeleteFor me even a break from Thope is refreshing, knowing that we won't be subjected to more of their office sex for at least some episodes. They may reconcile later or may not, that remains to be seen but the breakup for now would be a relief. I hope they show us also Liam's reaction, he's so funny when he gloats 😂
Milla. Next week is going to be a welcome change for sure! Maybe Thomas will announce he needs to head out of town for a bit to regroup. I still want to see Hope slap Steffy. But from the preview we saw, it looks like Steffy stops her. So disappointing.
DeleteThomas and Hope will reconcile. In a few weeks to a few months, Hope will realize she wants to marry him after all. So you haven't seen the last of Thope--or of me-- yet! Just a break for a while. Enjoy it while it lasts!
DeleteThe way they keep chopping up SL's it could be more than few weeks. It's probably going to be at least 3 months until RJ finds out about the whole Zende thing, and 6 months to find out who Luna's father is. 😴😴
DeleteMy fingers are🤞 for you, hope you get the job.
Lynn it seems Steffy will stop the slap indeed 😀 yes I can see Thomas announcing a time off, maybe that's why they'll have that talk with Douglas. I hope this refreshing break from the Thope yuck doesn't mean weeks of only Luna and how "incredible" she is 🤣 you'd think she's the clip-holding messiah of FC the way they are talking about her.
DeleteMilla, Luna is the stapler holding messiah of FC! 😂
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