I agree. I got the impression she was sooo nervous with Thomas so close to her. I think she has a crush for Thomas, but she cannot admit this to herself. Maybe she fell on Thomas accidentally this time, but I bet this could be just the beginning of something more... Much more...
I really Hopeless dumps Liam...she doen't have te go with Thomas but just dump Liam. Than he can think about everything he has done in the relationship with Hopeless.
@Elle Liam can remember his past mistakes but he doesn't see them as bad as he thinks that Thomas' mistakes are. It was about time that she woke the "Do Do bird!", however, he is going to think what he did was nothing compared to Thomas.
The thing Elizabeth, is that Thomas hid the fact that Beth was alive from them. To hear Liam repeat over and over again "what he has done to us," you'd swear Thomas was the one that stole Beth and told them she died. Whether what Thomas did is worse than Liam sleeping with Steffy multiple times while with Hope, is a matter of perspective. The fact is that just like Hope was able to forgive Liam and give him another chance, she did the same with Thomas. Liam needs to think about that. That's why I was happy that she brought it up today.
@Elle Ok yes, Thomas did an awful thing about the Beth issue, but Thomas wasn't in his right mind, now he has finally gone to seek help. Liam never forgets about the past he just dwells on it. he not the type to "forgive and forget." Liam believes that Thomas can't change but he can, we just have to watch and see if Bradley Bell will make Thomas to be a better man or will he continue to be the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personality only time will tell. As for Liam thinking, he really doesn't think he just messes everything up, look how he saw today he took it the wrong way. Hope thought she found her Mr. right when he really is a Mr. Wrong and I think that is what she is thinking now.
Guess the FFs win this round, huh? And Milla, I'm not trying to be childish here.
You know what Liam's problem is? He clearly has not healed from the past. Maybe he does not want to heal just so that he can always use the past as an excuse to hate on Thomas. But even if Thomas and Hope did not work together, they still co-parent Douglas. Thomas will still be in their lives anyway. And I was happy that Hope called Liam out on his past misdeeds. Great acting by Scott (Liam) today.
I will also say this again. Hope needs to put some distance between her and Thomas, for obvious reasons. And did y'all notice that one of Hope's memories went back to a fitting last year when she and Thomas were preparing for the HFTF launch just before Christmas? Which means that she has been having feelings for hot Thomas since then.
I agree Elle and as far as Liam being protective of Hope and his family? It's one thing to be protective, it's another thing to be over protective bordering obsession. Some people it can be fatal. I say Liam is the latter, and pushing Hope away.
Haha well talking about "winning" is certainly not the grownupest of your lines Elle. Apart from that I don't see any evidence that she's not turned off. She was infuriated Liam would believe she would "put herself in this position" 😅 this one moment hardly trumps her years-long rejection and pushback. If anything happens, it will be out of a misunderstanding. There were never real feelings, only confusion.
Liam is right with all he's saying.
But I do agree 100% Hope should put distance between herself and Thomas if she wants her marriage to survive. And I said it before too - that as soon as she switches into "brat mode", I'll be the first to agree. And today she really escalated into full on brat Hope.
To clarify - Liam misunderstood the situation, no question. Thomas is innocent here and I'm not putting any blame on him. But Liam is so affected, so full of anxiety that he can't be expected so easily to forgive Thomas. I believe that nobody in his situation with what he has endured would have any less inner trauma and what he's saying makes sense from that perspective. Maybe some therapy would help. Just not by Taylor 😅
I don't think Hope was being a brat. She finally told Liam what she had kept bottled up inside from all her years of heartache caused by Liam. She was letting him know that Thomas is not the only man who has done her wrong. Liam needed to be reminded of that because he has it in his head that he is the only one entitled to mess up with Hope and receive forgiveness.
Haha Milla. It seems only you and the LFs think that Hope is confused. Her own husband is going crazy over the fact that Hope is not turned off by Thomas to the point he is questioning why that is. He sees it. Steffy also sees it and has put Hope on notice. She doesn't want anything and anyone interfering with Thomas' progress. Brooke has also detected something and has cautioned Hope about "bad boys." Hope is not confused. She knows exactly what she is feeling and has only now come to terms with it and is questioning it. Hope had been enjoying all those nights over at Eric's place with Thomas, Douglas and Beth. Matter of fact, she looked forward to it.
Elle, you didn’t win this round. What Hope is experiencing is “power of suggestion”. Brooke told Hope that she was happy that Hope was grounded and mature, and didn’t chase after bad boys like Brooke did in her younger years. That discussion was burned into Hope’s mind, and as a result, she had a fantasy about being with bad boy Thomas. You heard her at the end say to herself….what the heck is wrong with me?!! She realized her mind was going places it would otherwise not go. And that is simply a result of what her mom said to her earlier. You will “win a round” if Hope starts pursuing Thomas or something romantic actually happens between them and Hope goes along with it. Until then, there is no “winning” as far as I’m concerned.
@Lynn I don't remember in any of our conversations, the prediction of Thomas and Hope being together was ever made. It was always about Hope having feelings for Thomas, which the LFs vehemently denied. I guess the power of suggestion (which was only made by Brooke yesterday) also had Hope fantasizing all the way back to last year to what should have been just one of many fittings Hope had with Thomas but which she remembered quite explicitly. I wonder why she had that specific memory?
Hope was simply remembering events from her past. She does not have feelings for Thomas. And yes, the power of suggestion from Brooke yesterday made her think about her past interactions with Thomas. I maintain she does NOT have romantic feelings for Thomas and was simply considering something Brooke said to her. We will see how this plays out. My guess is you are getting way ahead of yourself.
So how you can tell from that scene which part was a fantasy and which was not Still doesn’t mean she had feelings for him since then If she does why she didn’t kiss him back when it really happened All the circumstances was perfect She was upset with liam They were drinking and sharing a nice moment So since she had feelings for him since that time why didn’t she went a long for the kiss even for a second ??
It's very clear that you gals refuse to acknowledge that Hope might have feelings for Thomas and that's just fine. However, I am not going to explain over and over something that is so clear onscreen and that can happen to any woman in Hope's position.
It's funny that Thomas can be displaying perfect behaviour yet, you refuse to see the change in him and just keep waiting for him to slip up at some point in the future, but you can't see that Hope is struggling with her feelings for Thomas even though it is being shown very clearly.
And please don't tell me that Thomas has a history of bad behaviour because the last time I checked, Hope has a history of cheating on Wyatt and cheating with Liam. So this is nothing new for her.
Elle, since I have been watching the show (for 5 years) I have not seen Hope cheat once. So I base my opinion on that. In that same 5 years of watching the show, I have seen Thomas screw up royally…time and time and time and time again!!! So that’s what I base my opinion / hunches on. But you are welcome to see what you want. However, like I said, you are getting way ahead of yourself in my opinion. And I am no more guessing about what I see on screen than you are. If Hope starts fantasizing about Thomas with any kind of regularity and I start to see her behavior change around him, then I will admit she is up to something. But I think you are jumping to conclusions based on what you saw on today’s episode. My guess is that absolutely nothing comes from it.
😂😂😂😂 Oh elle always put words on other‘s mouth so convince ur self that you were right What i said is not refusing that hope maybe NOW is feeling something for thomas What i said that you are saying that she had feelings long long time ago And a few weeks are not enough for someone that messed up to be changed We hope he will because it boring Let us see when he starts to worry about ridge and brook getting close again Apologized to brook because hope asked him to, it didn’t come from him even though it was like months He seemed sincere but it’s thomas that is what he so good at And please hope never cheated on liam with wyatt or the other way around Because it didn’t happened like that It wasn’t good or like her character but it wasn’t cheating either Actually steffy the one who was married to Wyatt when liam got released from quinn and she used to make out with liam all the time before she divorced Wyatt so maybe you got confused
Elle I also believe Hope knows what she's feeling - that she loves her husband and not Thomas. She was in a turmoil. But she was being unfair. That's what worst way to argue with your s.o - to bring up their mistakes from the past and weaponize. That damages the relationship immensely. In a strong relationship it's not us against each other. It's us against the problem. And Hope has not shown in this episode much ability to put herself in Liam's shoes and how much he is really supposed to endure? Again, this particular moment Thomas was innocent, but this is the moment she should have kept her cool, explained again the situation and reassured him. Hey, I'd say something unexpected now - she could have taken a page of Steffy's book in terms of supporting her husband. Steffy and Finn are always on the same page where Sheila was concerned, each showing a lot of understanding for the other's feelings. Steffy acknowledges she knows how hard it must be Finn cutting off his mother. I like those conversations and I think Hope and Liam could try to go a similar way.
Milla, the very fact that you are able to see that Liam and Hope are not on the same page says something. How don't you see that? Yes, they should tackle the Thomas issue together but Hope does not want to. Liam asked his wife if they can go home now and Hope did not want to. Liam asked "with him?" and all Hope could do was get this weird look on her face. I mean, it's not rocket science that Hope is starting to pull away.
And I wouldn't put all the blame on Hope because Liam has been doing a number on her since last year where Thomas is concerned. And I remember a few of us saying that Liam is going to push Hope right into Thomas' arms. Well, here we are. His obsession with Thomas, treating Hope like she can't be trusted and running to Brooke about Thomas was not a good way to handle the issue either. Hope finally snapped and that's why she brought up Liam's past actions. It's not like her to do that but Liam drove her to her breaking point.
Actually the other kiss fantasy was Thomas’s… which shows Elle’s point!! Hope was wool garhering about kissing Thomas. He never shared that fantasy with her which means it’s HERS!!!!!!
FF we are not fools. All I think about after seeing Hope’s wee fantasy was all the comments that she would never be attracted to Thomas etc etc.
She was absolutely correct putting Liam in his place. He acted a right pratt and he looked like he forgot the times he cheated and hurt Hope in the past. Shocker. He’s a fair bit of Bill in him and he was being a hypocrite. Hope called him out and well she should. He treats her like an idiot who needs him to think for her.
He actually knows NOTHING about running a fashion line or her business he just thinks he does. Daddy throwing him a plum position in Spencer Publications solely because he’s his son doesn’t make him an expert on the fashion industry.
He’s very dismissive of Hope and has always infantilised her since the very beginning of their relationship.
Hope needs a real man. I can’t wait to see her go to the dark side 😈😈😈
Elle, I just read your comment above that you think Brooke suspects Hope has feelings for Thomas, and that’s why she said what she said to Hope about her (Brooke’s) past and how she was always attracted to bad boys. Well that wasn’t even close to what Brooke was telling Hope! In fact, just the opposite! She was PRAISING her daughter for her excellent choices and she actually told Hope how much she admired her because the apple has clearly fallen FAR from the tree!! You absolutely misread that discussion between Brooke and Hope! You might want to watch that scene again. This is how you draw your conclusions - you see things that aren’t really there to further illustrate your point. 🙄🙄🙄
Oh yeah elle thats so funny when you praise a disgusting character like thomas and bash character like hope It says a lot 😂😂😂 The hypocrisy is funny and disgusting at the same time
BTW, I don't ever bash Hope. I like her. Ever since Annika Noelle took over the role, she has made Hope a lot more likeable for me. She's a Marone and is quite similar to her dad who has always been kind-hearted and loving.
And I also don't praise Thomas. I support him as a character with flaws who is trying to do better. Just like I am able to acknowledge Brooke's change from what she used to be (slut from the valley) to the mature woman she is now. You should try it. Thomas is not the sum total of the disgusting and vile things he did in the past.
Yes, Sharpe. Thank you! This puts a different spin on the Hope character completely because Deacon is also kind-hearted and loving but he is also a bad boy!!! Liam doesn't stand a chance. 😂🤣
With flaws 😂😂😂 so murder, the well to drug women to sleep with them Bargain his son for sex Taking advantage of a drunk drugged woman And it goes on As a women thats a disgusting predator Not flaws So this is now not only funny its hilarious 😂
And unknown that nickname came from the master bully and manipulator Stephanie who btw cheated eric then get pregnant and told him its his to steal him from his fiancé And being that arrogant and obnoxious just because she has money Like she is any better from brook Brook the one who get raped because of witch Stephanie Such hypocrisy At least brook is admitting her mistakes and make up for them Let us if ur beloved psycho murderer will ever do
That was really something finally Hope stumped her foot down and told Liam off, I think we are going to see more complications with Liam and Hope coming up. It was about time Hope started to speak out her feelings of what he has done, which he always over looks but never with others, he needed a taste of his own medicine 💊. Well, Liam doesn't have Steffy anymore to turn to, so he is going to have to settle with his brother Wyatt for consoling. Hope now fantasying about Thomas, very interesting! Hope needs a man not a whining adult baby.
The previous actress who played Hope was a much better match for Liam because she was also very childish and entitled. This new actress plays a much more grounded and mature Hope and, unfortunately, is mismatched with Liam. It's time for Hope to move on from him.
His wife also enjoyed, way too much, spending nights over at the mansion last year and didn't seem to be bothered by the fact that her husband was at home alone. That should have been a sign.
Do I really believe what? Hope telling Thomas with her own mouth that she was looking forward to coming over to Eric's? Or Liam complaining about the amount of time that Hope is spending over at Eric's and Hope not batting an eye about it? Or about Liam not seeing the signs since back then?
😂😂😂 aren’t you really repeating the im looking forward to it Im really bored of repeating this discussion Obviously you want to believe she was there for the psycho only So nothing we could say will make you to see the real thing So its a waste of time
Lame needs therapy. Maybe you could vent to your daddy's soon to be new GF, Taylor. Oh Hopeful, what is going on is that you ARE your mother's daughter. Enjoy the ride.
@I don't get it, I really don't get it. I don't see how Brooke could not have seen this coming. She raised Hope to be just like her, starting with buying her virgin daughter sexy lingerie so that she can lose her virginity to a married man. Brooke really shouldn't be surprised.
Hope & Liam need marriage counseling. A mediator who can help each side try to see the other side's position. Liam's reaction today was over the top. It's understandable to jump to a conclusion, but then take a moment to get an explanation. Especially when the person explaining is your wife. Without counseling they are headed for a breakup. Liam will never trust Thomas. Hope knows she will not have HFTF without Thomas.
Liam first needs therapy to deal with the feelings he is still harboring over what Thomas did, and Hope needs to put some distance between her and Thomas. If that doesn't work, then they can resort to marriage counseling.
Elle I don't think it will go that far with Liam and Hope. She is realizing she doesn't need him., if I was on a computer I would elaborate more. Tiny keyboards on a phone at this time of night I fight with lately so I won't say anymore. It's a waste of time.
And finally the Brooke saga ia continuing with baby Hope. She will soon be like Mamy Brooke jumping around. The saga.. Story never ends. Hope and Liam should leave the program.. Boring and dumb.
I still love Hope because her heart is in the right place and she has good intentions compared to most characters on this show, but right now I am definitely not supporting her stubbornness to keep Thomas around and I am absolutely disgusted by her weird fantasy that includes the psycho. Where does it even come from? Hope could literally have Thomas since 2012 and she never wanted him no matter how many times he tried. She looked horrified each time he tried to kiss her since 2019 and couldn't force herself to sleep with him, but all of a sudden she daydreams about kissing him? (And her daydreaming even included a moment that was a part of Thomas's fantasy so I have no idea how it suddenly appeared in Hope's head). I am not going to cheer for the Thomas show. I didn't forget all the horrible things he has done. If Hope will choose Thomas or fall in love with him I won't be sorry for her if she loses everything. It's like begging for problems.
And maybe hope will cut thomas completely if she knew all the the ugly disgusting stuff he did only us the viewers and him for sure knows about He tried to get her drunk to sleep with her when she was still a version He drugged liam to sleep with his sister with know care about how that will effect his sister‘s feelings Killing emma Bring drugs for her so he can sleep with her but didn’t get the chance What he did to Douglas with the ghost thing So hope and the rest of the characters don’t know all of these stuff only us and him I wonder how anyone can like him 🤮 So i really don’t understand how any women can have any feelings for such a psycho 🤮 But of course any dirt or mistakes other characters commit everyone will know about
Hold on a minute, Mmysh. You're not supporting Hope's stubbornness to keep Thomas around? What happened to "Hope shouldn't have to establish boundaries or change her natural and good nature when she is around Thomas?"
I think that even if Hope finds out about all the things Thomas supposedly did, she wouldn't care. It's so clear that she fully believes that he has changed even if you don't want to believe it.
Oh elle nice try 😂😂😂 I never said i support her having the psycho around And once i even said i hope Caroline will come back so she can take Douglas even though it will break hope’s heart but it has a very bright side cutting off all ties with thomas So no i understand why she wants him working on her line but its not right So trying to fish in the troubled water doesn’t work 😂😂
I guess Hope's stupid then because she doesn't care about what Thomas did in the past. She believes he has changed. That's my point. Hope is looking beyond the past and focusing on the changed Thomas. She even told Liam today that he refuses to see the changes in Thomas.
Exactly any women who can go pass that is stupid and naive not to mention having feelings for him 🤮🤮 Changed people with conscious when they changed they make amends and have remorse Not applicable in tommy boy‘s case When he did that maybe we can say he changed We can consider sheila is changed since its been a long time since her last crime She said sorry over and over same as thomas
@Mmysh I am referring to the argument about Hope putting boundaries between her and Thomas and not being up in his personal space. The LFs were all quite vocal that Hope did not need boundaries and that she did not need to change her good-natured self or walk to the other side of the room if Thomas was in it. It was felt that Hope could continue working closely with Thomas and if he got the wrong idea, that was his problem.
You haven't seen any remorse in Thomas? Not when he went to Brooke and apologized and told her he should not have interfered in her marriage to his dad? Not when he admitted to Ridge that it was wrong of him to call CPS on himself? You didn't see him ask Hope if it was okay to put his hands on her when she so eagerly jumped at the opportunity to do the fitting? And today when he left Liam and Hope to talk and told his family that he does not want to come between Liam and Hope?
Elle, of course Thomas is putting on a good show. He may even be sincere at this very moment in time. But we all know who Thomas is at his core. Just like Mmysh pointed out above in reference to Sheila. It is WAAAAAAAY too early to see if Thomas has TRULY changed. My bet is that he has not. And it will be a short lived good boy act by Thomas. It cracks me up that after literally YEARS of Brooke not acting slutty, we still hear “slut from the valley” from multiple FF’s. But Thomas is watching his P’s and Q’s for just a couple short months and all the FF’s are convinced he’s truly a changed man. 😂😂😂. If we are still seeing good boy Thomas a year from now, then we can talk. Lol
Lynn I admire so much how in a short paragraph you say the spot on thing. If we pull out a calendar and point the months in which Thomas has been called "a changed man" they will be way too close between. A more realistic view on him would benefit everyone.
@Lynn I didn't say anything about Thomas having truly changed. I responded to Mmysh saying that Thomas has not shown any remorse by giving examples of his attempts to show remorse. Thank you for acknowledging that he may be sincere in his efforts.
Regarding him being a changed man, that's a work in progress. As far as has been said on the show, Thomas is still in therapy so whatever changes Hope and Thomas' family are seeing does not mean that he is a changed man. They are simply acknowledging that they are seeing differences in him that weren't there before.
Hope will have an affair with Thomas Liam is pushing her to do that , the way hes acting with hope he is pushing her straight in Thomas’s arms for sure so there’s gonna be a love scene very soon
I really don't want their relationship to start off that way. I hope Thomas rejects her advances and encourages her to repair her marriage if that does happen.
I was right on alot of things the one when Sheila ran straight to deacon when she jumped out the window and that deacon was involved as well ur the one saying that deacon wasn’t involved either , so I know more than u cause I read alot on my soapies
@Unknown Don't worry about it. We are right a lot of the times, we just don't keep count the way the LFs do. I have said a lot of times in the past that I didn't realize this was a competition. But here comes Milla talking about wins and prizes like it's something new when the LFs are the ones that are usually quick to count their wins and place bets.
I will be laughing myself silly when Hope and Thomas become a thing lol! Hope is fantasising about him and Liam is pushing her hard and fast into his arms!!! Mmmvhmmmm it’s coming and someone will be eating a load of crow!
Elle when you direct your neener neener towards me per name, I respond also on behalf of me - I have never counted "wins", mostly because like I said - I don't see winning here. I said it before and I'm convinced of it 100% - anything that may happen with Thomas and Hope (if anything) won't come from a place of real love. So it will be short lived. But if you see it as a win, I'll be happy for you 🤗
Maybe you read my comment the wrong way. I didn't mean that you counted wins. I generalized that the LFs have been counting wins for a long time but as soon as an FF did it (the one you said was being childish) you point it out like it's never been done before. Why have you never pointed it out when your fellow LF did it even though you quite often engaged in the same discussion?
And I'm not saying that you can't. You're free to post what you want to post. It just comes off as biased and unfair.
"Guess the FFs win this round, huh? And Milla, I'm not trying to be childish here. "
Elle you are the one who first brought up a "win" in this conversation AND addresses ME by name in that initial sentence, not "LFs". I was never talking about wins and still have no idea why I was addressed by name in that context 😅 I don't have to justify anything regarding winning because 1. I didn't start this conversation but you 2. I never talk about wins. How can it come off as "biased and unfair" when I never started it? 😅
Next time you may want to address whoever was actually ever talking about winning when you noticed it and it annoyed you, not me. If you hadn't addressed the sentence to me, I wouldn't have even noticed your mentioning of winning. And you mentioned the word "childish" first. Basically in this thread it all started from you I just responded because I saw my name (still don't know why though).
@ Unknown, weren’t you the one I argued with about how Ridge was supposedly leaving the show?? You (or another person named “Unknown”) argued with me for 2 plus days saying you were soooooo certain Ridge’s character was being written out! And yet here we are, with Ridge back on B&B 100%!!! So looks like your “winning streak” is about a total of 1. Lol. And as far as Sheila running to Deacon after her tumble off the balcony…LOL I absolutely said she was running straight to Deacon. You were one of about 25 of us who guessed that. Me included!!! 😂😂😂
Unknown, you know more than me because you read a lot on your soapies?? Not sure what exactly that means. But we LF’s have been right SOOOOOO many times we have lost count!! Lol. Sorry Milla, I know you aren’t a fan of this ‘winning’ and who is right thing, but this Unknown person is getting on my nerves. Lol
And Elle, I believe the term I have used many times in the past is “our crystal ball” is working again! Lol. I fully admitted when I was wrong about Deacon. He was involved like you ladies said. So I was wrong there and owned it. But I was also right in that his feelings for Sheila were genuine. And that’s what I based my conclusion on - he genuinely loved crazy town lady.
Elle, as you are fully aware…it became EXTREMELY CONTENTIOUS when I first arrived on this blog. Very much a an “us” vs “them” theme took place. I think we are all trying to be a bit more objective these days. But I believe the winning thing originated back when we were all screaming at each other and the nastiness on this blog was a daily occurrence. And yes, I was very much a part of that nastiness. Mainly because I was so outnumbered. These days we mostly have constructive discussions. And that’s a really good thing! 👍🏻👍🏻
Milla, Elle shouldn’t have directed her winning comment in your direction. She was clearly referring to me. You shouldn’t have gotten pulled into this. You have always been Switzerland. No one should give Switzerland a hard time! 😉😉
Elle, I typed out a pretty long comment that didn’t post. I hate it when that happens! Anyway, the gist of what I was saying was….I believe this “winning” thing started a long while back. When I first came on this blog there was a ton of friction. Lots of nastiness from both sides. And it felt very contentious. I am not claiming to be an innocent victim by any stretch. I was very much a part of it. And it was an “us” vs “them” mentality back then. So yeah, I’m sure I pointed out whenever I guessed right. But we have all changed the way we interact with each other. We’ve come a long way and are able to be much more open minded and objective about the characters’ behaviors. For the most part, I think we treat each other with respect these days. And as a result, there is FAR LESS nastiness on the blog.
Lynn thank you for clarifying and for standing up 🤗 regarding especially the word "win" I couldn't remember it was you saying it, I knew about the "crystal ball" (I was part of these conversations and it was very much fun!) and also when we were talking about guessing right. I remember you often really did guess right and I was telling you you should play Lotto 😀(like when Liam and Brooke were talking and you said absolutely no way they'll hook up while everyone was so sure; then also when you said Thomas was behind CPS and maybe some others I'm missing) And so true about the interactions these days vs before ❤️
I’m trying to catch up the last couple of weeks and have to say I’m sad to see all the nasty attacks again. Why can’t we have differing opinions on here?? Why does it have to be if one disagrees one is a liar or idiot etc. it makes me want to leave for good.
We actually had a run where the hostility was lower and we were acting like adults. Now it’s back to the nitpicking and nasty gibes.
Maybe the writers have understood that we were boring, and they have arranged some bombs for us: Bill and Ridge together to get Shila out of their lives, Hope/Thomas/Liam... I'm enjoying these two weeks episodes sooo much 😃
I think Hope is pathetic and Thomas is just waiting for his moment making her feel sorry for poor misunderstood Thomas. He is clever and cunning, just taking a new approach this time! I trust and like Liam and he sees through all of this.
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ReplyDeleteI agree. I got the impression she was sooo nervous with Thomas so close to her. I think she has a crush for Thomas, but she cannot admit this to herself. Maybe she fell on Thomas accidentally this time, but I bet this could be just the beginning of something more... Much more...
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ReplyDeleteI really Hopeless dumps Liam...she doen't have te go with Thomas but just dump Liam. Than he can think about everything he has done in the relationship with Hopeless.
ReplyDeleteLiam can remember Thomas' past deeds but not his own. Good for Hope reminding him of all that she has been through with him.
DeleteTrue but he doen't really think about it and so she has to dump Liam so he can really think about it.
Delete@Elle Liam can remember his past mistakes but he doesn't see them as bad as he thinks that Thomas' mistakes are. It was about time that she woke the "Do Do bird!", however, he is going to think what he did was nothing compared to Thomas.
DeleteThe thing Elizabeth, is that Thomas hid the fact that Beth was alive from them. To hear Liam repeat over and over again "what he has done to us," you'd swear Thomas was the one that stole Beth and told them she died. Whether what Thomas did is worse than Liam sleeping with Steffy multiple times while with Hope, is a matter of perspective. The fact is that just like Hope was able to forgive Liam and give him another chance, she did the same with Thomas. Liam needs to think about that. That's why I was happy that she brought it up today.
Delete@Elle Ok yes, Thomas did an awful thing about the Beth issue, but Thomas wasn't in his right mind, now he has finally gone to seek help. Liam never forgets about the past he just dwells on it. he not the type to "forgive and forget." Liam believes that Thomas can't change but he can, we just have to watch and see if Bradley Bell will make Thomas to be a better man or will he continue to be the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personality only time will tell. As for Liam thinking, he really doesn't think he just messes everything up, look how he saw today he took it the wrong way. Hope thought she found her Mr. right when he really is a Mr. Wrong and I think that is what she is thinking now.
DeleteI agree. Look at what happened with mannequin-gate. Another instance of Liam not thinking.
DeleteAhem! Hope sure looks turned off by Thomas.
ReplyDeleteGuess the FFs win this round, huh? And Milla, I'm not trying to be childish here.
You know what Liam's problem is? He clearly has not healed from the past. Maybe he does not want to heal just so that he can always use the past as an excuse to hate on Thomas. But even if Thomas and Hope did not work together, they still co-parent Douglas. Thomas will still be in their lives anyway. And I was happy that Hope called Liam out on his past misdeeds. Great acting by Scott (Liam) today.
I will also say this again. Hope needs to put some distance between her and Thomas, for obvious reasons. And did y'all notice that one of Hope's memories went back to a fitting last year when she and Thomas were preparing for the HFTF launch just before Christmas? Which means that she has been having feelings for hot Thomas since then.
I agree Elle and as far as Liam being protective of Hope and his family? It's one thing to be protective, it's another thing to be over protective bordering obsession. Some people it can be fatal. I say Liam is the latter, and pushing Hope away.
DeleteAnd I too think she has been having feelings for Thomas for awhile now. He doesn't treat her like a child that needs to be protected.
Delete@D Totally agree with you there!
DeleteHaha well talking about "winning" is certainly not the grownupest of your lines Elle. Apart from that I don't see any evidence that she's not turned off. She was infuriated Liam would believe she would "put herself in this position" 😅 this one moment hardly trumps her years-long rejection and pushback. If anything happens, it will be out of a misunderstanding. There were never real feelings, only confusion.
DeleteLiam is right with all he's saying.
But I do agree 100% Hope should put distance between herself and Thomas if she wants her marriage to survive. And I said it before too - that as soon as she switches into "brat mode", I'll be the first to agree. And today she really escalated into full on brat Hope.
To clarify - Liam misunderstood the situation, no question. Thomas is innocent here and I'm not putting any blame on him. But Liam is so affected, so full of anxiety that he can't be expected so easily to forgive Thomas. I believe that nobody in his situation with what he has endured would have any less inner trauma and what he's saying makes sense from that perspective. Maybe some therapy would help. Just not by Taylor 😅
DeleteI don't think Hope was being a brat. She finally told Liam what she had kept bottled up inside from all her years of heartache caused by Liam. She was letting him know that Thomas is not the only man who has done her wrong. Liam needed to be reminded of that because he has it in his head that he is the only one entitled to mess up with Hope and receive forgiveness.
DeleteHaha Milla. It seems only you and the LFs think that Hope is confused. Her own husband is going crazy over the fact that Hope is not turned off by Thomas to the point he is questioning why that is. He sees it. Steffy also sees it and has put Hope on notice. She doesn't want anything and anyone interfering with Thomas' progress. Brooke has also detected something and has cautioned Hope about "bad boys." Hope is not confused. She knows exactly what she is feeling and has only now come to terms with it and is questioning it. Hope had been enjoying all those nights over at Eric's place with Thomas, Douglas and Beth. Matter of fact, she looked forward to it.
Milla regarding Elle's comment about "winning". The LF's do it all the time when they're right.
DeleteElle, you didn’t win this round. What Hope is experiencing is “power of suggestion”. Brooke told Hope that she was happy that Hope was grounded and mature, and didn’t chase after bad boys like Brooke did in her younger years. That discussion was burned into Hope’s mind, and as a result, she had a fantasy about being with bad boy Thomas. You heard her at the end say to herself….what the heck is wrong with me?!! She realized her mind was going places it would otherwise not go. And that is simply a result of what her mom said to her earlier.
DeleteYou will “win a round” if Hope starts pursuing Thomas or something romantic actually happens between them and Hope goes along with it. Until then, there is no “winning” as far as I’m concerned.
Or lynn we can blame the writers if things didn’t went as we wants 😂😂😂😂😂
DeleteMmysh, right?!!! Lol 😂😂😂
Delete@Lynn I don't remember in any of our conversations, the prediction of Thomas and Hope being together was ever made. It was always about Hope having feelings for Thomas, which the LFs vehemently denied. I guess the power of suggestion (which was only made by Brooke yesterday) also had Hope fantasizing all the way back to last year to what should have been just one of many fittings Hope had with Thomas but which she remembered quite explicitly. I wonder why she had that specific memory?
DeleteI'll take my win, thank you.
A memory from Thomas’s mind 😂😂😂😂
DeleteWeren't Thomas and Hope doing a fitting when he had that fantasy?
DeleteHope was simply remembering events from her past. She does not have feelings for Thomas. And yes, the power of suggestion from Brooke yesterday made her think about her past interactions with Thomas. I maintain she does NOT have romantic feelings for Thomas and was simply considering something Brooke said to her. We will see how this plays out. My guess is you are getting way ahead of yourself.
DeleteSo how you can tell from that scene which part was a fantasy and which was not
DeleteStill doesn’t mean she had feelings for him since then
If she does why she didn’t kiss him back when it really happened
All the circumstances was perfect
She was upset with liam
They were drinking and sharing a nice moment
So since she had feelings for him since that time why didn’t she went a long for the kiss even for a second ??
It's very clear that you gals refuse to acknowledge that Hope might have feelings for Thomas and that's just fine. However, I am not going to explain over and over something that is so clear onscreen and that can happen to any woman in Hope's position.
DeleteIt's funny that Thomas can be displaying perfect behaviour yet, you refuse to see the change in him and just keep waiting for him to slip up at some point in the future, but you can't see that Hope is struggling with her feelings for Thomas even though it is being shown very clearly.
And please don't tell me that Thomas has a history of bad behaviour because the last time I checked, Hope has a history of cheating on Wyatt and cheating with Liam. So this is nothing new for her.
Elle, since I have been watching the show (for 5 years) I have not seen Hope cheat once. So I base my opinion on that. In that same 5 years of watching the show, I have seen Thomas screw up royally…time and time and time and time again!!! So that’s what I base my opinion / hunches on. But you are welcome to see what you want. However, like I said, you are getting way ahead of yourself in my opinion. And I am no more guessing about what I see on screen than you are. If Hope starts fantasizing about Thomas with any kind of regularity and I start to see her behavior change around him, then I will admit she is up to something. But I think you are jumping to conclusions based on what you saw on today’s episode. My guess is that absolutely nothing comes from it.
DeleteEllle, we can regroup on this subject in about a week and see where it’s landed.
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DeleteOh elle always put words on other‘s mouth so convince ur self that you were right
What i said is not refusing that hope maybe NOW is feeling something for thomas
What i said that you are saying that she had feelings long long time ago
And a few weeks are not enough for someone that messed up to be changed
We hope he will because it boring
Let us see when he starts to worry about ridge and brook getting close again
Apologized to brook because hope asked him to, it didn’t come from him even though it was like months
He seemed sincere but it’s thomas that is what he so good at
And please hope never cheated on liam with wyatt or the other way around
Because it didn’t happened like that
It wasn’t good or like her character but it wasn’t cheating either
Actually steffy the one who was married to Wyatt when liam got released from quinn and she used to make out with liam all the time before she divorced Wyatt so maybe you got confused
Elle I also believe Hope knows what she's feeling - that she loves her husband and not Thomas. She was in a turmoil. But she was being unfair. That's what worst way to argue with your s.o - to bring up their mistakes from the past and weaponize. That damages the relationship immensely. In a strong relationship it's not us against each other. It's us against the problem. And Hope has not shown in this episode much ability to put herself in Liam's shoes and how much he is really supposed to endure? Again, this particular moment Thomas was innocent, but this is the moment she should have kept her cool, explained again the situation and reassured him. Hey, I'd say something unexpected now - she could have taken a page of Steffy's book in terms of supporting her husband. Steffy and Finn are always on the same page where Sheila was concerned, each showing a lot of understanding for the other's feelings. Steffy acknowledges she knows how hard it must be Finn cutting off his mother. I like those conversations and I think Hope and Liam could try to go a similar way.
DeleteP.S "take my win" - was there a prize? 😂😂 what are we winning? All I see us all actually losing/wasting time on a blog.
DeleteMilla, the very fact that you are able to see that Liam and Hope are not on the same page says something. How don't you see that? Yes, they should tackle the Thomas issue together but Hope does not want to. Liam asked his wife if they can go home now and Hope did not want to. Liam asked "with him?" and all Hope could do was get this weird look on her face. I mean, it's not rocket science that Hope is starting to pull away.
DeleteAnd I wouldn't put all the blame on Hope because Liam has been doing a number on her since last year where Thomas is concerned. And I remember a few of us saying that Liam is going to push Hope right into Thomas' arms. Well, here we are. His obsession with Thomas, treating Hope like she can't be trusted and running to Brooke about Thomas was not a good way to handle the issue either. Hope finally snapped and that's why she brought up Liam's past actions. It's not like her to do that but Liam drove her to her breaking point.
Actually the other kiss fantasy was Thomas’s… which shows Elle’s point!! Hope was wool garhering about kissing Thomas. He never shared that fantasy with her which means it’s HERS!!!!!!
DeleteFF we are not fools. All I think about after seeing Hope’s wee fantasy was all the comments that she would never be attracted to Thomas etc etc.
She was absolutely correct putting Liam in his place. He acted a right pratt and he looked like he forgot the times he cheated and hurt Hope in the past. Shocker. He’s a fair bit of Bill in him and he was being a hypocrite. Hope called him out and well she should. He treats her like an idiot who needs him to think for her.
He actually knows NOTHING about running a fashion line or her business he just thinks he does. Daddy throwing him a plum position in Spencer Publications solely because he’s his son doesn’t make him an expert on the fashion industry.
He’s very dismissive of Hope and has always infantilised her since the very beginning of their relationship.
Hope needs a real man. I can’t wait to see her go to the dark side 😈😈😈
Elle, I just read your comment above that you think Brooke suspects Hope has feelings for Thomas, and that’s why she said what she said to Hope about her (Brooke’s) past and how she was always attracted to bad boys.
DeleteWell that wasn’t even close to what Brooke was telling Hope! In fact, just the opposite! She was PRAISING her daughter for her excellent choices and she actually told Hope how much she admired her because the apple has clearly fallen FAR from the tree!! You absolutely misread that discussion between Brooke and Hope! You might want to watch that scene again.
This is how you draw your conclusions - you see things that aren’t really there to further illustrate your point. 🙄🙄🙄
Exactly lynn
DeleteLame and Hopeless are so nauseating
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more!!
DeleteBetter than the psycho murderer lunatic and his trashy sis or mommy you adore … 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Delete@Mmysh 😂😂😂😂
DeleteOh yeah elle thats so funny when you praise a disgusting character like thomas and bash character like hope
DeleteIt says a lot 😂😂😂
The hypocrisy is funny and disgusting at the same time
My dearest Mmysh, that's not what I found funny. It was your comment that had me in stitches. 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteBTW, I don't ever bash Hope. I like her. Ever since Annika Noelle took over the role, she has made Hope a lot more likeable for me. She's a Marone and is quite similar to her dad who has always been kind-hearted and loving.
DeleteAnd I also don't praise Thomas. I support him as a character with flaws who is trying to do better. Just like I am able to acknowledge Brooke's change from what she used to be (slut from the valley) to the mature woman she is now. You should try it. Thomas is not the sum total of the disgusting and vile things he did in the past.
DeleteYou mean Sharpe, Elle, ☺️ and Brooke just brought up how Stephanie called her ‘the slut from the Valley’ so I think she considers herself as such.
DeleteYes, Sharpe. Thank you! This puts a different spin on the Hope character completely because Deacon is also kind-hearted and loving but he is also a bad boy!!! Liam doesn't stand a chance. 😂🤣
Delete@Unknown It's only her fans that don't see Brooke as such. Brooke herself knows it. Other characters in the show have also acknowledged it.
DeleteWith flaws 😂😂😂 so murder, the well to drug women to sleep with them
DeleteBargain his son for sex
Taking advantage of a drunk drugged woman
And it goes on
As a women thats a disgusting predator
Not flaws
So this is now not only funny its hilarious 😂
And unknown that nickname came from the master bully and manipulator Stephanie who btw cheated eric then get pregnant and told him its his to steal him from his fiancé
DeleteAnd being that arrogant and obnoxious just because she has money
Like she is any better from brook
Brook the one who get raped because of witch Stephanie
Such hypocrisy
At least brook is admitting her mistakes and make up for them
Let us if ur beloved psycho murderer will ever do
That was really something finally Hope stumped her foot down and told Liam off, I think we are going to see more complications with Liam and Hope coming up. It was about time Hope started to speak out her feelings of what he has done, which he always over looks but never with others, he needed a taste of his own medicine 💊. Well, Liam doesn't have Steffy anymore to turn to, so he is going to have to settle with his brother Wyatt for consoling. Hope now fantasying about Thomas, very interesting! Hope needs a man not a whining adult baby.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteBrava!!!! 👏👏👏👏
DeleteBy the way, I can't understand for the life of me, how in the heck Hope saw Liam as a man and thought he was the right one for her is beyond me.🧩🧩🧩
ReplyDeleteThe previous actress who played Hope was a much better match for Liam because she was also very childish and entitled. This new actress plays a much more grounded and mature Hope and, unfortunately, is mismatched with Liam. It's time for Hope to move on from him.
DeleteSo maybe they should change the actress playing steffy and the actor playing thomas too 😂😂😂😂
DeleteI can't stand Liam. Thomas should have knocked off his fat head. FYI, your wife is staring at Thomas and thinking about kissing him doofus!!!
ReplyDeleteHis wife also enjoyed, way too much, spending nights over at the mansion last year and didn't seem to be bothered by the fact that her husband was at home alone. That should have been a sign.
DeleteElle 😂😂😂 do you really believe that 😂😂
DeleteDo I really believe what? Hope telling Thomas with her own mouth that she was looking forward to coming over to Eric's? Or Liam complaining about the amount of time that Hope is spending over at Eric's and Hope not batting an eye about it? Or about Liam not seeing the signs since back then?
Delete😂😂😂 aren’t you really repeating the im looking forward to it
DeleteIm really bored of repeating this discussion
Obviously you want to believe she was there for the psycho only
So nothing we could say will make you to see the real thing
So its a waste of time
Lame needs therapy. Maybe you could vent to your daddy's soon to be new GF, Taylor.
ReplyDeleteOh Hopeful, what is going on is that you ARE your mother's daughter. Enjoy the ride.
@I don't get it, I really don't get it. I don't see how Brooke could not have seen this coming. She raised Hope to be just like her, starting with buying her virgin daughter sexy lingerie so that she can lose her virginity to a married man. Brooke really shouldn't be surprised.
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DeleteHope & Liam need marriage counseling. A mediator who can help each side try to see the other side's position. Liam's reaction today was over the top. It's understandable to jump to a conclusion, but then take a moment to get an explanation. Especially when the person explaining is your wife. Without counseling they are headed for a breakup. Liam will never trust Thomas. Hope knows she will not have HFTF without Thomas.
ReplyDeleteLiam first needs therapy to deal with the feelings he is still harboring over what Thomas did, and Hope needs to put some distance between her and Thomas. If that doesn't work, then they can resort to marriage counseling.
DeleteElle I don't think it will go that far with Liam and Hope. She is realizing she doesn't need him., if I was on a computer I would elaborate more. Tiny keyboards on a phone at this time of night I fight with lately so I won't say anymore. It's a waste of time.
DeleteNo worries D. I understand completely. And I agree with you about Hope and Liam!
DeleteAnd finally the Brooke saga ia continuing with baby Hope. She will soon be like Mamy Brooke jumping around. The saga.. Story never ends.
ReplyDeleteHope and Liam should leave the program.. Boring and dumb.
Funny coming from a steffy Taylor fan 😂😂😂😂
DeleteCan you please upload the last week episodes in March 2023. I would appreciate that. Thank you Bob
ReplyDeleteGREAT...Thank you Bob!!
DeleteBrooke is passing on the baton to her youngest daughter Hope
ReplyDelete😂😂😂😂😂 oh the hypocrisy
DeleteI still love Hope because her heart is in the right place and she has good intentions compared to most characters on this show, but right now I am definitely not supporting her stubbornness to keep Thomas around and I am absolutely disgusted by her weird fantasy that includes the psycho. Where does it even come from? Hope could literally have Thomas since 2012 and she never wanted him no matter how many times he tried. She looked horrified each time he tried to kiss her since 2019 and couldn't force herself to sleep with him, but all of a sudden she daydreams about kissing him? (And her daydreaming even included a moment that was a part of Thomas's fantasy so I have no idea how it suddenly appeared in Hope's head). I am not going to cheer for the Thomas show. I didn't forget all the horrible things he has done. If Hope will choose Thomas or fall in love with him I won't be sorry for her if she loses everything. It's like begging for problems.
ReplyDeleteAnd maybe hope will cut thomas completely if she knew all the the ugly disgusting stuff he did only us the viewers and him for sure knows about
DeleteHe tried to get her drunk to sleep with her when she was still a version
He drugged liam to sleep with his sister with know care about how that will effect his sister‘s feelings
Killing emma
Bring drugs for her so he can sleep with her but didn’t get the chance
What he did to Douglas with the ghost thing
So hope and the rest of the characters don’t know all of these stuff only us and him
I wonder how anyone can like him 🤮
So i really don’t understand how any women can have any feelings for such a psycho 🤮
But of course any dirt or mistakes other characters commit everyone will know about
Hold on a minute, Mmysh. You're not supporting Hope's stubbornness to keep Thomas around? What happened to "Hope shouldn't have to establish boundaries or change her natural and good nature when she is around Thomas?"
DeleteI think that even if Hope finds out about all the things Thomas supposedly did, she wouldn't care. It's so clear that she fully believes that he has changed even if you don't want to believe it.
Oh elle nice try 😂😂😂
DeleteI never said i support her having the psycho around
And once i even said i hope Caroline will come back so she can take Douglas even though it will break hope’s heart but it has a very bright side cutting off all ties with thomas
So no i understand why she wants him working on her line but its not right
So trying to fish in the troubled water doesn’t work 😂😂
Things thomas supposedly did 😂😂😂😂😂😂
DeleteSo if she knew and didn’t care so she is as stupid as anyone who loves and support such a disgusting character
I guess Hope's stupid then because she doesn't care about what Thomas did in the past. She believes he has changed. That's my point. Hope is looking beyond the past and focusing on the changed Thomas. She even told Liam today that he refuses to see the changes in Thomas.
DeleteExactly any women who can go pass that is stupid and naive not to mention having feelings for him 🤮🤮
DeleteChanged people with conscious when they changed they make amends and have remorse
Not applicable in tommy boy‘s case
When he did that maybe we can say he changed
We can consider sheila is changed since its been a long time since her last crime
She said sorry over and over same as thomas
@Mmysh I am referring to the argument about Hope putting boundaries between her and Thomas and not being up in his personal space. The LFs were all quite vocal that Hope did not need boundaries and that she did not need to change her good-natured self or walk to the other side of the room if Thomas was in it. It was felt that Hope could continue working closely with Thomas and if he got the wrong idea, that was his problem.
DeleteYou haven't seen any remorse in Thomas? Not when he went to Brooke and apologized and told her he should not have interfered in her marriage to his dad? Not when he admitted to Ridge that it was wrong of him to call CPS on himself? You didn't see him ask Hope if it was okay to put his hands on her when she so eagerly jumped at the opportunity to do the fitting? And today when he left Liam and Hope to talk and told his family that he does not want to come between Liam and Hope?
Delete😂😂😂😂 as i said we can consider sheila is a changed woman according to that
DeleteElle, of course Thomas is putting on a good show. He may even be sincere at this very moment in time. But we all know who Thomas is at his core. Just like Mmysh pointed out above in reference to Sheila. It is WAAAAAAAY too early to see if Thomas has TRULY changed. My bet is that he has not. And it will be a short lived good boy act by Thomas. It cracks me up that after literally YEARS of Brooke not acting slutty, we still hear “slut from the valley” from multiple FF’s. But Thomas is watching his P’s and Q’s for just a couple short months and all the FF’s are convinced he’s truly a changed man. 😂😂😂.
DeleteIf we are still seeing good boy Thomas a year from now, then we can talk. Lol
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DeleteLynn I admire so much how in a short paragraph you say the spot on thing. If we pull out a calendar and point the months in which Thomas has been called "a changed man" they will be way too close between. A more realistic view on him would benefit everyone.
DeleteYeah milla exactly lynn always on the spot
DeleteAnd how funny “my name is on the door” 😂😂😂 and run directly to his parents to tell them
@Lynn I didn't say anything about Thomas having truly changed. I responded to Mmysh saying that Thomas has not shown any remorse by giving examples of his attempts to show remorse. Thank you for acknowledging that he may be sincere in his efforts.
DeleteRegarding him being a changed man, that's a work in progress. As far as has been said on the show, Thomas is still in therapy so whatever changes Hope and Thomas' family are seeing does not mean that he is a changed man. They are simply acknowledging that they are seeing differences in him that weren't there before.
Well Liam doesn’t work there lol he can’t actually order Thomas around he’s NOT his boss lol.
Delete😂😂😂😂 oh Bbfan in the situation he can and what kind of person will stay there
DeleteBut sure the child thomas can do whatever he likes and it’s justified
Hope will have an affair with Thomas Liam is pushing her to do that , the way hes acting with hope he is pushing her straight in Thomas’s arms for sure so there’s gonna be a love scene very soon
ReplyDeleteI really don't want their relationship to start off that way. I hope Thomas rejects her advances and encourages her to repair her marriage if that does happen.
DeleteThere will be no Thomas affair. No worries there.
DeleteOh yes there will be wait and see
Delete@Unknown Some are in heavy denial. 😂😂
DeleteLet’s place our bets now. You ladies have said this same thing multiple times over the years, and you have been proven wrong multiple times. Sooooo…..
DeleteWell it’s obvious isn’t it , Thomas will be good to her and know she’s got feelings for him, helloooo
DeleteOh elle , denial 😂😂😂😂
DeleteSo how many times we could say that about you 😂😂😂
And maybe it will turned to be also this time 😂😂😂
And unknown what good will come from a psycho murderer nut job ???
DeleteUnknown, as I said above..,you have said the same thing before and have been wrong. So what makes you think this time is any different??? 😂😂😂😂
DeleteI was right on alot of things the one when Sheila ran straight to deacon when she jumped out the window and that deacon was involved as well ur the one saying that deacon wasn’t involved either , so I know more than u cause I read alot on my soapies
DeleteOh unknown 😂😂😂
Delete@Unknown Don't worry about it. We are right a lot of the times, we just don't keep count the way the LFs do. I have said a lot of times in the past that I didn't realize this was a competition. But here comes Milla talking about wins and prizes like it's something new when the LFs are the ones that are usually quick to count their wins and place bets.
Delete👍 Elle
Delete😆😆😄 Mmysh
DeleteI will be laughing myself silly when Hope and Thomas become a thing lol! Hope is fantasising about him and Liam is pushing her hard and fast into his arms!!! Mmmvhmmmm it’s coming and someone will be eating a load of crow!
DeleteOh D you never disappoint 😂😂😂😂
DeleteElle when you direct your neener neener towards me per name, I respond also on behalf of me - I have never counted "wins", mostly because like I said - I don't see winning here. I said it before and I'm convinced of it 100% - anything that may happen with Thomas and Hope (if anything) won't come from a place of real love. So it will be short lived. But if you see it as a win, I'll be happy for you 🤗
DeleteMaybe you read my comment the wrong way. I didn't mean that you counted wins. I generalized that the LFs have been counting wins for a long time but as soon as an FF did it (the one you said was being childish) you point it out like it's never been done before. Why have you never pointed it out when your fellow LF did it even though you quite often engaged in the same discussion?
DeleteAnd I'm not saying that you can't. You're free to post what you want to post. It just comes off as biased and unfair.
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Delete"Guess the FFs win this round, huh? And Milla, I'm not trying to be childish here. "
DeleteElle you are the one who first brought up a "win" in this conversation AND addresses ME by name in that initial sentence, not "LFs". I was never talking about wins and still have no idea why I was addressed by name in that context 😅 I don't have to justify anything regarding winning because 1. I didn't start this conversation but you 2. I never talk about wins. How can it come off as "biased and unfair" when I never started it? 😅
Next time you may want to address whoever was actually ever talking about winning when you noticed it and it annoyed you, not me. If you hadn't addressed the sentence to me, I wouldn't have even noticed your mentioning of winning. And you mentioned the word "childish" first. Basically in this thread it all started from you I just responded because I saw my name (still don't know why though).
Delete@ Unknown, weren’t you the one I argued with about how Ridge was supposedly leaving the show?? You (or another person named “Unknown”) argued with me for 2 plus days saying you were soooooo certain Ridge’s character was being written out! And yet here we are, with Ridge back on B&B 100%!!! So looks like your “winning streak” is about a total of 1. Lol.
DeleteAnd as far as Sheila running to Deacon after her tumble off the balcony…LOL I absolutely said she was running straight to Deacon. You were one of about 25 of us who guessed that. Me included!!! 😂😂😂
And oh by the way Unknown…the only love scene we saw today was Hope with her husband, Liam!! 😂😂😂
DeleteUnknown, you know more than me because you read a lot on your soapies?? Not sure what exactly that means. But we LF’s have been right SOOOOOO many times we have lost count!! Lol.
DeleteSorry Milla, I know you aren’t a fan of this ‘winning’ and who is right thing, but this Unknown person is getting on my nerves.
Lol
And Elle, I believe the term I have used many times in the past is “our crystal ball” is working again! Lol. I fully admitted when I was wrong about Deacon. He was involved like you ladies said. So I was wrong there and owned it. But I was also right in that his feelings for Sheila were genuine. And that’s what I based my conclusion on - he genuinely loved crazy town lady.
DeleteElle, as you are fully aware…it became EXTREMELY CONTENTIOUS when I first arrived on this blog. Very much a an “us” vs “them” theme took place. I think we are all trying to be a bit more objective these days. But I believe the winning thing originated back when we were all screaming at each other and the nastiness on this blog was a daily occurrence. And yes, I was very much a part of that nastiness. Mainly because I was so outnumbered. These days we mostly have constructive discussions. And that’s a really good thing! 👍🏻👍🏻
DeleteMilla, Elle shouldn’t have directed her winning comment in your direction. She was clearly referring to me. You shouldn’t have gotten pulled into this. You have always been Switzerland. No one should give Switzerland a hard time! 😉😉
DeleteElle, I typed out a pretty long comment that didn’t post. I hate it when that happens!
DeleteAnyway, the gist of what I was saying was….I believe this “winning” thing started a long while back. When I first came on this blog there was a ton of friction. Lots of nastiness from both sides. And it felt very contentious. I am not claiming to be an innocent victim by any stretch. I was very much a part of it. And it was an “us” vs “them” mentality back then. So yeah, I’m sure I pointed out whenever I guessed right. But we have all changed the way we interact with each other. We’ve come a long way and are able to be much more open minded and objective about the characters’ behaviors. For the most part, I think we treat each other with respect these days. And as a result, there is FAR LESS nastiness on the blog.
Lynn thank you for clarifying and for standing up 🤗 regarding especially the word "win" I couldn't remember it was you saying it, I knew about the "crystal ball" (I was part of these conversations and it was very much fun!) and also when we were talking about guessing right. I remember you often really did guess right and I was telling you you should play Lotto 😀(like when Liam and Brooke were talking and you said absolutely no way they'll hook up while everyone was so sure; then also when you said Thomas was behind CPS and maybe some others I'm missing) And so true about the interactions these days vs before ❤️
DeleteLove you, Milla! Have a very happy Easter! ❤️
DeleteLots of love to you too dear Lynn 🤗❤️ happy Easter to you too!! 🐣💝
DeleteI’m trying to catch up the last couple of weeks and have to say I’m sad to see all the nasty attacks again. Why can’t we have differing opinions on here?? Why does it have to be if one disagrees one is a liar or idiot etc. it makes me want to leave for good.
DeleteWe actually had a run where the hostility was lower and we were acting like adults. Now it’s back to the nitpicking and nasty gibes.
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Hi Bob I couldn't view it it was stuck on the smoking advert.Can you upload again please xxxx
ReplyDeleteHi Bob it's OK now thank you xxxx
ReplyDeleteMaybe the writers have understood that we were boring, and they have arranged some bombs for us: Bill and Ridge together to get Shila out of their lives, Hope/Thomas/Liam...
ReplyDeleteI'm enjoying these two weeks episodes sooo much 😃
Hope and Thomas are so good together. They could be a supercouple. Liam hasnt place in the picture.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the tabloids, they're already a super couple! 😁
DeleteElle, Elle, Elle…you know better than to trust those silly spoilers.
DeleteI think Hope is pathetic and Thomas is just waiting for his moment making her feel sorry for poor misunderstood Thomas. He is clever and cunning, just taking a new approach this time! I trust and like Liam and he sees through all of this.
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video has been removed AGAIN why thiss happening all time?
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