Good thing Brooke is wearing the Blazing Beacon of soaps because the astronauts in the International Space Station can hurdle through the boring other people doing same old drippy rehash scenes. Brooke can get right to what could be "The Right Stuff," where Brooke tells Ridge she's in love with Taylor.
Hope walks around like Gwyneth Paltrow with head in the clouds and not a thought on her mind. There is a photo of her straddling Liam with her buttcrack clear as day through sheer green material. She aint got no drawers or nothin' just total buttcrack. Reminds me of a Tim Wilson song, with the line, "Look at what she wears, there's nothin' under there." The photo is all over fb and it gets funnier every time I see it.
So Brooke knows about Deacon's involvement in helping catch Sheila but doesn't care at all 😅 when did they even tell her? Wasn't it supposed to be a secret?
Good to see Ridge taking responsibility for his own actions and inactions that ruined his marriage. Taylor can try to convince herself as much as she wants. Ridge and Brooke can't be just friendly... Too much love and history there. Hey when is RJ coming on screen?? I was almost expecting him to walk in when they were talking about him. Would have been great.
Omg hahaha that Thomas face on Liam was so funny 😅 Like on "Friends" when Joey saw Ross on the baby face. Btw why was Thomas calling Hope while he was with his mom and sister?
Milla, Ridge and Bill promised Deacon to keep his involvement with Sheila a secret, not his part in getting her caught.
I thought the same about RJ, that he would walk in at that moment.
Thomas may have been calling to speak to Douglas since Taylor said that they were having a family dinner over at Brooke's.
Joey saw Ross' face on the baby literally. That's not what happened with Hope. She saw Thomas in place of her husband, not just his face on Liam's body. Hope can't seem to stop thinking about Thomas.
They showed only the face, nothing more like Thomas was taking the place of Liam. She did not go on to imagine him taking her and kissing her etc. She only saw his face for a sec. Even on Friends Ross' face was talking, here it was gone 😂 And reg Deacon - when they were telling the family and people asked "Why was she at IG?", they just mumbled something. Could have said Deacon was helping but didn't. Now it's a known fact. Strange.
@ Milla Just watching this, I was wondering when Brooke will break her promise with Taylor and it certainly look like it was going to happen in this episode, let see about manana. There is a talk rumor suggesting the possibility of B&B of Ridge connecting with Sauna, Liam with Ivy all because Bradley is thinking of bringing them back in to the picture. Well, Bradley certainly isn't the kind of guy who likes to keep couples together for long, that is one of the reasons I don't like his way of thinking for this soap.
Well I don't care so much about Brooke's pinky swear to Taylor. They've been friends for 5 minutes and this friendship is far-fetched at best. Brooke and Ridge will get back together eventually and Taylor knows it (or should know it). When they pull them apart it's only so that their reunion is that much more wanted and grand. People don't watch soaps to see two cougars lunch and giggle. It's for the love and the drama.
I, too, don’t care about Taylor and Brooke’s over-the-top friendship but I suspect that Brooke will turn Ridge down and then he will find his way to Taylor and start his flirtation with her. She will also shut him down which will force Ridge to look elsewhere but who is there? Li, Paris (ew), some model or as some of you mentioned that Shauna may return. R.J. could still walk in on them. Isn’t he due back soon?
Unknown I expect the exact same thing regarding Ridge. He will have his rebound with another lady (not Taylor, she will stick to the pact) and that will end when his love for Brooke takes over. I'm also wondering about RJ, it's time 🤩🤩
I guess we can safely say that Taylor has a lot more self-control than Brooke. Brooke is such a tease. She just can't help herself. 🤦🏻♀️
What do you call a husband whose wife desperately attempts to make love to him because she's trying to forget another man? Is Liam the rebound? 🤷🏻♀️
Brooke is cautiously optimistic that Thomas has changed. Very interesting. Seems they're making room for Hope to open up to her mom about her feelings for Thomas without Brooke getting all crazy. I like it. 😁
Oh please, did you see the scowl on Taylor’s face when she told Steffy and Thomas that Ridge was with Brooke? If Taylor was with Ridge right now, she’d be flirting like the cheerleader to the football player! Ridge should have gone home. Why is he still there? Ridge wants Brooke, it’s very clear. Yes, Brooke and Ridge will end up back together. Although I still think Brooke can do better. He will always be the waffler in my eyes.
Elle, sorry nope. Hope wasn’t intentionally fantasizing about Thomas. Did you see the look of terror in her eyes when she saw herself kissing Thomas? That’s not someone enjoying a fantasy. That’s someone who is freaked out that this man is popping into her head.
And btw, Taylor was with Ridge the day before and I saw no flirting. However, I did see Ridge go over to her and held her hand and she pulled away from him. And rightfully so. He did leave her at the altar, so I don't believe Taylor would have flirted with Ridge. Brooke, otoh, knows she wasn't going to give in to Ridge yet she flirted with him. That's why I said she is a tease and can't help herself.
Elle, sorry, but I see you comparing apples and oranges. The two events aren’t remotely comparable. Ridge and Brooke are alone together in Brooke’s home having dinner together. The event you are comparing is at Eric’s with the rest of the family in arm’s reach, not to mention earshot. Totally different circumstances / dynamic. I maintain if Taylor was standing where Brooke was…with Ridge doing everything less picking Brooke up and carrying her upstairs, Taylor would have been all over that! Kissing would have occurred and quite possibly other things as well. And I didn’t see Taylor pull away from Ridge when he put his hand on her at Eric’s to assure her all was gonna be fine now. Taylor smiled at Ridge and was relieved and grateful. No pulling away from Ridge whatsoever. And why would she, he wasn’t offering her a roll in the hay, just reassurance that she was safe now!! Lol
I don't know what you are talking about Lynn. I'm talking about Thursday's show that started with Steffy welcoming Ridge back. I can't remember what they were talking about but Ridge reached out and held Taylor's hands and she pulled away from him. There was no rest of the family there, just Steffy.
Just glanced at all the comments tonight, but are we now blaming writers for the whole Hope and Thomas situation? Something a few people would always laugh about. Hypocritical? Nooo Elle your beating a dead horse.
Oh D 😂😂😂😂 i thought you are smarter than that Or trying to be smart But still i will explain it to you We were making fun of some here they know themselves 😂😂😂 Comments still there So nice try 😂😂😂 But its was good coz it proves so many things 😂😂 Oh hilarious I was not even expecting that for someone not to understand what we meant but here we go 😂😂😂
"I think the writers want to switch the couples now"
This was a direct quote from you, Mmysh, about your own opinion on what is going on in the show. Doesn't sound like you were making fun of anyone. It sounds like you are blaming the Liam/Hope troubles on the writers wanting to switch up the couples. But I'm sure you'll deny it. Carry on then.
Oh elle actually the comment i wrote making fun wasn’t that
IF you read my comment carefully maybe you would understand But sure you only read to reply as always I wrote this comment about switching couples because i was talking about spoilers not because im blaming the writers I was talking about the reason behind those spoilers if they are right of course But sure you will see it that was so you can use it 😂 Actually i was so hard on hope i didn’t come up with excuses or fool myself Like you guys do even when it comes to murder
Elle, are you seriously comparing the events between Taylor and Ridge and Brooke and Ridge?? Seriously?? I watched the scene you are referring to with Taylor when he was APOLOGIZING to her for what he and Bill put her through. He grabbed her hands appropriately during the apology. He wasn’t trying to bed her at that moment with Steffy standing right there in the office at FC! For goodness sakes…read into things much??!! Now let’s take a look at the scene with Ridge and Brooke at Brooke’s house when he leans in and looks into her eyes and tells her he misses her, then kisses he gently on her neck. Then he proceeds to comment “lucky sheets” when he sees her in her lingerie. Come on, Elle!!!! Ridge is clearly wanting to have sex with Brooke!! But she sticks to her pact with Taylor and even brings that up when he’s about to kiss her. I’m not so sure she is going to continue to reject his advances on Monday’s show, however. We’ll have to see how it goes. But Ridge is DEFINITELY putting the moves on Brooke!!
Elle, we didn’t refuse to see anything. We maintain Hope loves Liam her husband, and her family with Liam. Nothing has changed. You guys predicted the same nonsense last time. It was a swing and a miss. And I expect the same thing to happen this time.
I wasn't comparing or attempting to compare anything, Lynn. I was responding to you saying that Taylor would also jump at the opportunity to flirt with Ridge and I used the scene where Ridge held her hand and she pulled away. She had an opportunity right then and there to flirt with him and she didn't. You seem to forget that Taylor left LA to get away from Ridge. She ended up almost being married to him because he came after her. Bad judgement on her part, which cost her. She's not going to put herself in that position again no matter how much you would like her to.
It was never said that Hope doesn't love her husband and family, just that she is developing feelings for Thomas. I don't know what hit and miss you are referring to because Hope literally had a memory of a fitting she did with Thomas last year when his hands were on her body. Refusing to see that Hope's attraction for Thomas started last year when she admitted that he was hot does not mean that it didn't happen. She was also giving him lingering looks and "accidentally" touching his hand last year too. And let's not forget her allowing him to come into her personal space to kiss her before stopping him.
@Mmysh Huh? I'm talking about last year when Taylor and Steffy went to Aspen and stayed at Bill's place. That's when Ridge came after her and they had that silly chase in the mountains.
Elle, Taylor has been nothing but a swooner, a teenager in love, and desperate to get Ridge’s love ever since she has been back on the show. You are giving her way too much credit when it comes to having willpower around Ridge. If given the opportunity, and circumstances are right…my money is on Taylor kissing Ridge. She is so desperately in love with him. I’ve already said I think Brooke could cave too. I don’t think either woman is strong enough to reject Ridge’s advances for too long. They both still love the waffler. That much is clear.
Sorry elle it seems i Understand wrong the period you are referring too But still we all know why ridge went after her And now since he will got rejected from brook probably she will stick to the pact So he will try with Taylor next and sure the so changed man will start playing the match maker again and interferes in his parents private life He even starts to worry about his father getting back with brook while it none of his business So his apology to brook means nothing So i hope Taylor will stay strong for herself because the pressure will be so high
And elle a plus Point on the “im sure you will deny it” I can’t deny something i didn’t do it on the first place And i never did Its not my problem when someone do not want to understand or trying to fish in troubled water 😊
Lynn, I think maybe you forgot a number of key episodes about Taylor such as the one where she told Brooke that Ridge was in love with the both of them. Or the one where she told Steffy that Ridge had hurt her so many times over the years with Brooke but she kept taking him back, and she didn't want to do that again. It was what led to her going to Aspen. Sure she was giddy and flirty with Ridge before but that all changed once she left LA and went to Aspen. Taylor has learnt her lesson with Ridge. She's not going to go there with him. Loving Ridge is one thing but protecting their hearts is another. Taylor is not going to give her heart back to Ridge so easily. Brooke, otoh, will willingly give her heart to Ridge knowing that he also loves Taylor. But you have to remember that Taylor has lived her life without Ridge for a long time so she's used to being without him. Brooke, not so much.
@Mmysh How does Thomas' apology to Brooke mean nothing? Ridge and Brooke are no longer together so even if Thomas does encourage his parents to get back together, he's not coming between Ridge and Brooke. He apologized for ending their marriage but his loyalty is not to Brooke so why do you see it as a Brooke betrayal meaning he has not changed? And what does his change have to do with wanting his parents back together? Not too long ago, Hope wanted her parents back together. Nothing's wrong with that.
@Mmysh You spoke about writers switching the couples and used the excuse that you were talking about spoilers so you did actually deny that you were using it as an excuse for what Hope and Liam are going through right now. But even if you were talking about spoilers, you still gave the opinion that the writers switching couples will explain while certain couples may not be together soon, or will cheat in the future. Your excuse is that it's the writers that will break them up.
Elle, that’s just another prediction you are making. Just like you are making predictions about Hope and Thomas winding up together. I maintain that Hope will keep her wedding vows to Liam, and nothing will happen between Hope and Thomas. I also maintain that if it comes to Ridge actually making the moves on Taylor (which he has yet to do since he returned to town), that Taylor won’t reject his advances for more than 5 minutes. So we’ll see….
As i said you believe what you want even with us the real people 😂😂 Its really frustrating
I wasn’t blaming the writers im against that actually And if i did i will say it in a direct way And if the spoilers i was talking about were true ohhhh that will back fire on your faces big time 😂😂😂 So will see then Im sure none of u will blame the writers because we called you out for it for so many times so will see the excuses what is gonna be
Elle and how long did Taylor's resolve last *in* Aspen? A "jog to the mountain" time 😅 she didn't even demand to know why he left Brooke and if he was divorced. Lol.
Btw it was me mentioning the writers and it was about the cheap manipulations that they show - someone's two second thoughts. I don't blame them for whole storylines a la "ahhh stupid writers Thomas behind CPS and being the bad one again waaa". If Hope does allow something to happen with Thomas I won't blame the writers but her.
Thanks milla Its Just fishing in the troubled water Me saying how the writers think and how the soaps is not blaming the writers And it so clear but still elle is insisting that i do and im deny it She knows even our intentions not only the show characters 😂😂
Milla, I did address Taylor's lapse in judgement in Aspen and how it cost her. Maybe you did not read that part of my comment. I also said, because of that, she is not going to allow Ridge to take advantage of her again so I do not believe she will be flirty with him. It was proven when Ridge held her hands recently and she pulled away.
Regarding blaming the writer, I was being specific with a comment Mmysh posted, not yours, dear.
Mmysh, you can try as much as you want to defend using the writers as an excuse for why couples may separate in the future but just as you like to call us out when we do it, we're just returning the favor.
@Lynn I haven't made a prediction about Thomas and Hope being together, others have, but not me. My stance since last year is that Hope has feelings for Thomas. I've also said on numerous occasions that Hope needs to set boundaries with Thomas or, at the very least, put some distance between them.
I would love for Hope to kick Liam to the curb and be with Thomas but it's too early to tell if that will happen. I will however, continue to insist that she is developing feelings for him whether you want to see it or not.
It looks like episode is not fully uploaded, scenes seems to be cut before it is complete, in the beginning 1minute in, and also by Steffy,Taylor and Thomas's conversation and by the end.
Hopes "power of suggestion " scenes are getting stronger. 😆 So much for BF's pinky swearing. Did they say in one of the shows when Deacon got involved? I was waiting to see if it was early on when he was harbouring Sheila. Someone told me to go back to last weeks episodes it was all explained, haven't had time. "Life is like a box of chocolates " its full of surprises. Happy Easter 🐣 Have a good long weekend.
D, Hope will need to have a serious talk with her mother about her current predicament. I can just hear her now: "Mom, look at what you've caused. Now I can't stop thinking about bad boy Thomas. Mom, I think I want the bad boy." 😂 😂 😂 Brooke led her daughter to the water AND made her drink. 😂 😂
Brooke seems to have a multitude of powers. Not only does she have super sensory abilities, but she can also manipulate a person's mind to make them do things that they don't really want to do.
Your snarkiness isn’t nearly as effective when you’re straight up wrong, ladies. But knock yourselves out. Still waiting for that love affair between Thomas and Hope. Oh wait, that will happen when he’ll freezes over!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve attempted to respond to this three times now. For some reason comments keep disappearing. Elle, Hope isn’t ‘doing’ anything. She has not been inappropriate with Thomas. And I still believe she is “freaked out” by the things that have popped into her mind about Thomas. So your snide comment about Brooke’s super powers fall on deaf ears. You know dang well when someone plants a seed in someone else’s mind, the receiving person will most likely think about what was said for at least a little while. Brooke planted the seed in Hope’s mind about bad boys. Hope has yet to act on any of those thoughts. If and when she does, then you will have a leg to stand on. But right now it’s still just wishful thinking on your part.
Yes Lynn, I know dang well about planting seeds but I also know dang well that the power of suggestion will not work on someone who does not want it to work. Hope fantasizing about kissing Thomas would not have happened if she did not want to kiss him, no matter how many times it is suggested.
I disagree. It’s like the car wreck on the side of the road as you drive by. You know you shouldn’t look, but curiosity gets the best of you and you look anyway. And once you look, you are horrified by what you see. These weird thoughts popping into Hope’s head will subside and all will be well in Liam and Hope land. No affair, no leaving Liam for Thomas. It will end up being a big nothing-burger!
At least we are not cheering to something so offensive to women just because we hate a character or just want to score some points Nonetheless defending a disgusting character like thomas 🤮🤮and wish him a happy ending That is enough for us And if hope really go for she will be stupid and doesn’t have enough respect for herself and the value of her as a person To have feelings for some that low and disgusting 🤮
Lynn, curiosity means that they want to know or have a desire to know, it doesn't just pop out of nowhere. That desire to know is what made them look. The power of suggestion is just that - a suggestion. A person can choose to entertain the suggestion or not. Hope's love for her husband should not make her want to look at another man, much less to fantasize about kissing him. Also, Brooke only spoke to Hope about bad boys this week, so how do you explain Hope, since last year, admitting to Thomas being hot and remembering his hands on her during a fitting they were doing for the HFTF launch also last year?
@Mmysh Yet you continue to cheer for Liam who has cheated on and hurt Hope numerous times in the past. You cheer for him even though he committed vehicular manslaughter and decided not to tell the police about it. Sure, Bill made him hide the truth from the police but what does that say about weak, spineless Liam who cannot have an independent thought about how his actions would affect his wife and family, but rather, he preferred to curl up on his father's couch freaking out like a girl. Please! Thomas' main downfall is being obsessed with Hope. At least he's actively working on himself and receiving therapy which is progress, slow but sure. Hope has forgiven him and sees the changes he's making. Steffy and Ridge are also seeing changes. Even Brooke told Ridge that she sees the changes in Thomas and is cautiously optimistic about his progress. People who are willing to put in the work are capable of change and should not be defined by their past. And I believe that's why Hope is starting to fall for him. She sees that he is genuinely trying to be better.
Oh elle these excuses are even more funnier 😂😂 Where did you see us cheering for liam But still he is way better than the psycho murderer Did he went to jail for killing emma No And are really speaking about liams accident 😂😂 We all remember how and why and because of whom that happened And i remember your guys comments that oh when hope will know she will be disgusted with liam and turned to thomas 😂😂😂 The things thomas did is disgusting The welling to drug a women to sleep with her ,,, really 🤮 And how Douglas were conceived I really don’t know how anyone can like such a behavior I don't care who Hope ends up with. I just can't see Hope falling for her abuser. It sends a bad message to those who have been abused. but sure who cares about that even its a soap when this person is disgusting thomas And its funny bashing liam for cheating like he cheated with a wall not steffy 😂😂 But sure she was excused she had a lot of drinks 😂😂😂 So if cheering for liam the cheater is wrong ( which i didn’t do) How you cheer steffy and find excuses for her cheating Mmmmm what we call that 😂😂
Oh I am cheering for Liam. He was never ever malicious. Thomas has been mostly malicious. He wanted to hurt and acted based on that. And he will again. Liam grew up immensely especially since he became a father to Beth. Comparing the two is like comparing Aladdin and Jafar.
Exactly milla No comparison At least liam was falling apart out of his guilt about vinny Even starting having hallucinations Thomas has nothing when he killed emma and it was on purpose A lot pf people can pass on cheating but murder absolutely not And most disgusting when he asked vinny to bring drugs and he almost put it in her drink but Douglas called and saved her from getting rape Or one he bargained Douglas for sex 🤮🤮🤮 how disgusting and low and sick is that especially for women So liam is a cheater but steffy is too and yet they defend her 😂
I remember Liam running as fast as his legs could carry him to Steffy when he believed his wife was making out and going to sleep with Thomas.
You LF’s keep saying he doesn’t worry Hope is attracted to Thomas. Of course he does!!! He utterly convinced his wife slept with Thomas, made out with him and didn’t even try to stop it or question her??? Even Steffy told him as soon as he arrived that he must be mistaken or there was an explanation etc. He had NO pause, NO trouble believing his wife, Hope cheated on him with Thomas. He brings up the mannequin constantly. Of course he forgets he used that as an excuse to cheat on his wife.
I was glad that Hope reminded him of that. He was already a father twice over at that point. Liam’s whole affect right now is like a spoiled child needing to be coddled.
I don’t him having matured that much. He was right back to his usual leaping to conclusions ans running off etc. He’s manipulating Hope by throwing tantrums and making her feel guilty anytime she disagrees with him. He wants to be the boss in their marriage instead of her partner. He’s always been that way.
He says he supports Hope but at the same time tells his brother is she loses her line it’s not that big a deal. I mean they are both trust fund brats so no worries there.
He really doesn’t understand how much HFTF is tied up in her own identity and she needs that for herself.
I was actually very pleased they gave Steffy a new fella that loves and is loyal to her. Liam was just running back and forth between Hope and Steffens hurting them both. I think Hope deserves better.
I still think that eventually Thomas and Hope will have something together other than work. They have always had great chemistry with the two current actors. I hope the writers give them a chance.
Great let us put her with her abuser How sick and offensive 🤮🤮🤮 But sure we even cheer that since its tommy boy 🤮 not only a murderer but doesn’t have problem with drudging a woman to sleep with her Not to mention how he took advantage of Caroline to hurt his father Disgusting 🤢
Yeah still Liam is times better human than Thomas and Hope knows it. Thomas is working on himself for years and it's still the same every year. Liam slips into conclusions, Thomas slips into malicious criminal behavior. That settles it right there.
Elle, really? You are bringing up the “Thomas is hot” comment when you absolutely know Hope didn’t just offer that up! It was literally dragged out of her by Paris. It’s not like she was sitting around with her friends having girl talk, and Hope confessed to her friends that she thought Thomas was hot. Just the opposite in fact. Paris kept pushing her to admit Thomas was attractive. And after multiple attempts by Paris, Hope finally reluctantly admitted it. Please don’t twist things to make a point. And Hope’s memories of things that happened last year with Thomas are all interrelated. Brooke brought up being attracted to bad boys, and it started bringing up thoughts of Hope’s interactions with Thomas. Past, present…all of it. Doesn’t mean anything is going to come of this. Like I said above, you are making way too much of something that’s gonna turn out to be nothing. All this stuff that’s going on in Hope’s mind is related to what Brooke said about bad boys, and most likely Steffy’s concerns bothered Hope as well. So she is second guessing herself at the moment. This too shall pass.
BBFAN, I honestly don’t think Liam is worried about Hope’s attraction to Thomas. I think Liam is just concerned about Hope’s naiveté’ when it comes to Thomas.
Exactly lynn the circumstances around the event is important to know the meaning behind it The way hope said he is hot is not reliable enough to use it to make a point Im furious with hope really how could she have feelings for him After everything im tired to mentioning the horrors he did to her If she was having these feelings for anyone else it would not be that bad like with her disgusting abuser
Mmysh, I honestly believe as this plays out we will be shown that we have nothing to worry about with Hope’s feelings for Thomas. I think we are being tricked right now (dare I say it….by the WRITERS) with these thoughts in Hope’s head. Don’t lose faith in Hope. She won’t fall for Thomas. That’s just not who Hope is.
Exactly Lynn. Cheap tricks to raise the tension "will she, won't she". Even if she has a moment of weakness with him, it won't turn into something real.
I hope that too ladies and it not about scoring points 😂😂 It about what hope presents and what thomas presents to her Her abuser 🤮🤮🤮 I don’t even know how anyone can support that 🤮🤮
So the marriage failed because of Thomas’s dirty manipulation And Thomas pushing his mom to go after ridge yeah to much for changed tommy boy
Hope what is exactly are you doing Really how a women in her right mind will has feelings for her abuser it’s disgusting You will lose everything thing over a shitty disgusting psycho It doesn’t make sense but will see
And it seems the spoilers are mostly true There will be a cheating but not hope 🤭
@Mmysh Hope always used to talk about her values, if it going to happen that Hope falls for Thomas then her values will mean "0". Remember back when Liam was going to divorce Steffy and Hope (Kim Matula) was visiting that "Cafe" that later turned into "Daisies" and her and Liam started hanging around together there and there was this little girl who had admired Hope? Well, I'm surprised that from the time that little girl saw her and exposed Hope, I was surprised that Hope's line was still in business, when I thought she would've been finished for good.
Yes Elizabeth that’s why im so shocked and disgusted with her Its so sudden and out of her character And really it’s offensive to women Maybe she has a tumor 😂😂😂😂 Because no women in her right mind will do this with someone who used her grief to get in her pants and then his son in a bargain for sex 🤮🤮 So any heartache she will get she deserve it
And yeah i remember this scene exactly It was her first time she used the pills 💊 And as you said the line survived that and even thrived more and more and brought millions but now only tommy boy can save it Ridiculous
Mmysh don't be so hard on Hope for seeing Thomas face for two and a half seconds. You know those are the cheap tricks of the writers and you shouldn't be so disillusioned by one of your favorites for it. It's about a person's actions not fleeting thoughts. When you see her cheat then okay, but let's see if it comes to that, like Lynn said in 5 years she hasn't been shown to cheat once. To me it was much more astonishing how she weaponized Liam's past mistakes in a fight, that was terrible. But it seems he's still very much trying to patch things up. Let's see where it goes.
"ElizabethApril 7, 2023 at 2:01 PM @Mmysh Hope always used to talk about her values, if it going to happen that Hope falls for Thomas then her values will mean "0". Remember back when Liam was going to divorce Steffy and Hope (Kim Matula) was visiting that "Cafe" that later turned into "Daisies" and her and Liam started hanging around together there and there was this little girl who had admired Hope? Well, I'm surprised that from the time that little girl saw her and exposed Hope, I was surprised that Hope's line was still in business, when I thought she would've been finished for good. " .. what episode was this? And what year? Where can i see this? Anyone who know? Please let me know!!
Hi johanna it was with previous actress who played hope It was season 25 https://youtu.be/oeI0ugldZak Here is the link of the episode And it all uploaded on the official youtube channel of the program
Yes milla i agree with you We still need to know why and how suddenly she is having those fantasies Its out of character for her But im sure she will not cheat Not only on the last 5 years Hope never cheated It was wrong when she dated Wyatt and liam at the same time But still during that she didn’t sleep with any of them And they knew about it But still wrong to me dating 2 people at the same But what makes me sick is how really could she with Thomas it’s offensive to women If its any other guy it’s wrong but not offensive Im sure you got my point
Exactly Mmysh, Hope's actions especially in recent years were always honorable. It's actually even expected when you've been a good girl for so many years but are subject of pressure and suggestion from so many places (from Thomas, Liam, Brooke, Steffy for whatever reason), to start freaking out and having your mind go weird places. That would look and develop in a completely different way if it was coming from a place of true feelings. Hope is still the person that you admire.
Hope is indeed a good girl with a huge heart. It's why she kept in contact with her dad while he was in prison and why she supports Thomas' efforts to turn his life around. Falling for him while being married does not automatically make her a bad girl. It is a sign however, that all may not be kosher in her marriage. She tried so hard to focus on her husband by preparing a romantic dinner but she could not. Something is definitely wrong there and that's where Liam needs to examine his actions over the last number of months. Hope said a lot to him during their argument. I hope Liam was listening because it seems Hope has a lot of pent up anger about the things her husband has done in the past. Liam had the audacity to ask Hope how much more should he have to take. It seems he forgot about how much he has asked Hope to take from him.
Like I said before, that's the worst way to fight with your s.o weaponizing past mistakes. It's only damaging and nobody is a winner. Liam can do 0 about the past. Or is the way to rectify it to take more and more Thomas crap? His mistakes stand in no reasonable relation to what Thomas put *them* through. Liam is mad, hurt and protective on both of their behalf (and their kids!) for which Hope is punishing him with bringing up the past.
Totally agree milla If it was another guy liam will be jealous as mad as hope when he cheated But with tommy boy He is not a random guy He did so much hurt to them Fed on their grieve deprived them from the first precious months of their daughter‘s first months something they will not get back Yeah we will hear he is not the one who started that what an excuse But anyway none of the people involved are a potential love interest and for whom hope herself Its really disgusting from her to have feelings for her abuser And i really can’t understand the she admit he is hot 😂😂😂 although we know how and why she said it even though its doesn’t mean feelings
Mmysh that admission comes again from Hope being a good person. Think of the alternatives: 1. "Ugh no, he's not hot" - almost rude 2. *silence* - High School Musical wannabes Paris and Steffy wouldn't leave her alone and read into that too! She did the perfect thing: saying yes he is (polite) and asserting Liam is still the hottest.
And telling paris if i say yes can we get back to work in another meaning will you shut up 😂😂😂 But in general still saying someone is hot doesn’t mean in love with them or has feelings
Ahahaha Liam is the hottest but Hope can't even kiss him without thinking about hot, bad boy Thomas. Y'all are too funny. 😂 😂 😂At least y'all admit that Hope finds Thomas hot, and that's good enough for me. 😌
All we admitted was that she would say pretty much anything to get Paris off her hair 😅. But Elle I want you to be happy so okay I’ll concede that she finds him hot.
I'm not sure what you mean by "the opposite way," but if it's along the lines of "Hope would say pretty much anything," my question will then be whether y'all think that good girl Hope with her values would rather LIE to Paris about Thomas being hot rather than to simply insist that she does not find him hot? I mean, why would Hope lie about finding her abuser hot? That baffles me somewhat if that is what y'all mean regarding Hope's "hot" comment.
It's a matter of saving time and getting immature Paris off her hair. Since there would be no winning with her and she would keep pushing, saying "no" would only drag out this ridiculousness. She said "can we get back to work if I say yes" - doesn't get more clear than that 😅
This one is for Elle and Unknown - it seems Hope’s and Thomas’ love affair is off to a very rocky start! In fact so much so, that Hope has set up a special romantic evening for her and Liam. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And I love how Steffy and Thomas and Taylor are clearly annoyed that Ridge is spending time with Brooke, while they are all for Ridge spending time with Taylor. Hilarious!!!!! What a bunch of hypocritical crap and exactly what I expect from those three!!! As someone else said above….Thomas is already back to his old manipulations. That didn’t take long!! And looks like Ridge is pining for Brooke again! No surprise there. We’ll see where this Hope / Thomas thing goes. My guess is still ‘NOWHERE’! As I said yesterday, don’t get ahead of yourselves ladies.
And I love how Liam and Hope both want to set aside the anger from earlier in the day and get back to the loving place. Neither one is angry. They both want to work through their issues. Definitely not a continuation of the blowup they had earlier in the day.
No lynn come on she is just having sex with her husband to forget about tommy boy 😂😂😂 And really how ridiculous that was for him to call her while oh i don’t want to cause trouble 😂 That was a very weak scene And yeah too much for respecting his mother’s wishes or the friendshipand the friend he himself granted brook with as a result of his sick manipulation 😂😂😂 But i give it to Taylor she didn’t go along with these too brats And thomas saying that finn is never home makes me think about some spoilers i read and today there was 2 clues leading to that So will see
Oh Mmysh, I would love to see Finn cheat on Steffy! Now that would be worth watching!! Lol I agree with Milla that these little blips with Thomas on Hope’s mind will be very short lived. And like Milla said, the writers are simply trying to throw us off. Hope knows who Thomas is. She won’t be taken in by him. Like you mentioned, he has done horrible things to Hope and her family. Hope would never, ever have a relationship with him! She just won’t!
Can’t wait for hope and Thomas affair it’ll be a good one , serves Liam right for being a jealous thing towards hope that day , he’s the one that pushed them 2 together , u go hope go after Thomas u make a better couple,
Unknown, you just keep dreaming. 😂😂😂 And no, Liam’s behavior isn’t pushing Thomas and Hope together. That’s why Hope set up a romantic evening with her HUSBAND!!! To make it right with Liam!! Where’s the romantic evening with Thomas that you keep mentioning??? 🤣🤣🤣
That’s why she did that dinner so she can forget about Thomas , and obvious she can’t get him out of her head , cause she was thinking bout him again , and noticed after she saw his face she kissed Liam even harder , do I don’t think ur watching it , or getting the whole situation , oh well we have to wait and see when the time comes
Ah speaking of Steffy did you guys see the previous episode when Ridge mentioned Liam, she again made that face (which with the excessive botox looked even more 🤡 happy) 😅 But I give her credit that she stopped pushing her mother towards Ridge, I couldn't bear to hear that anymore. And Taylor indeed didn't look at all convinced. She still believes the dinner included the younger generations and is yet to find out was quite more intimate 😁 Ridge was totally craving him some Logan ☺️
Unknown, you must have missed the look of terror on Hope’s face after she pictured Thomas’ face when she was kissing Liam. As I said in another comment, that is not the face of someone enjoying a pleasurable fantasy. That’s the look of someone thinking….”What the hell??!!!!” That’s not what dreams are made of. Nightmares…perhaps!! Lol
Milla, we knew this day would come. I really don’t want Ridge and Brooke back together. But it’s bound to happen. I used to root for them….destiny and all. Lol But he is now and will always be waffle man to me after what he pulled. And I really don’t like the new scruffy look. I just think he looks old and unkempt.
Oh Lynn you know who I want Brooke with and it's not Ridge 🙁 he is a waffler still. But I also don't want her alone, it's quite boring her only be shown worrying about Hope and giggling with Taylor. Plus like you say it's bound to happen Brooke and Ridge were always and will be the couple.
Oh lynn it will not be finn 😂😂 I think the writers want to switch the couples now Its been a long time and no couple stayed together that long So for hope its not gonna be thomas I guess it’s gonna be finn And that wishes of hope and Liam’s being apart will backfire i guess 😂😂
And as ridge said if it wasn’t for Thomas they would be still together Not as some were implying that their marriage was already ending just to defend thomas dirty tricks I think brook will never break the promise But it will be of course harder for her than Taylor Brook has been with ridge for so long now while Taylor was not even in the country
Mmysh, so true! We definitely knew the reason Ridge and Brooke broke up was 100% Thomas’ doing! Ridge knows too, that’s why he’s trying to get back into Brooke’s bed. He knows he screwed up big time, just like you said!
I didn’t see terror of Thomas. More she was shocked she was kissing her husband and thinking of another man. That’s never a good sign. Actually I’m thinking that scene with the sofa will end Monday with her fantasies that it’s Thomas with her not Liam.
She was shown thinking on Thomas, about nearly kissing him. She clearly planned the evening with Liam to one, get him back on side with her working with Thomas. Two, to fight her growing attraction to Thomas.
I don’t bother with spoilers since they are fan fictions 99% of the time. However at this point in time writers are showing us Hope having feelings for Thomas and wrestling with those.
There is not reason Hope can’t have a bad girl side. I can’t see the point of that very specific conversation between Hope and Brooke if not setting up a situation where Hope will fall for the bad lad as well.
I think their romantic evening is going to derail at some point.
BBFAN, I disagree on all counts. I think Hope set up that special dinner for her and Liam because she doesn’t like to fight with her husband and she is feeling bad for her part in it. She knows dang well that Liam has every right to be extremely skeptical of Thomas’ supposed changed behavior. And she knows she let Liam down when she changed her mind about allowing Thomas to come back to the line, etc, etc. Hope doesn’t like being at odds with the man she adores (Liam), so she decided to plan a special romantic dinner to bring them back together. As I stated in an earlier comment, nothing was preventing her from staying at the office and working with Thomas until late in the evening. But instead Hope chose to go home and extend an olive branch to the one she loves, Liam.
Actually Hope planned to spend a family evening with Brooke, Ridge and her family. Her fantasies about Thomas spooked her and she made a sudden decision to send the bairns on sleep away with their wee mates. She didn’t even change from her work clothes or anything. Brooke was surprised at the change of plans. Of course Hope didn’t say she was having the evening with Liam in an effort to get Thomas out of her thoughts!!!
My theory about her fight with her husband and wanting to make things right with Liam is just as plausible. And actually my theory is even more likely because those were her actual words to Liam!! 😂😂😂. She doesn’t want to fight!! So she’s trying to set things right!! But hey, you think what you want, and I’ll think what I want. And just like I told Elle, we will see how this all plays out.
I agree she said that but I think that the fact that the idea for the romantic evening suddenly happens immediately after she’s fantasising about Thomas is very telling. It’s not like she came home from work and set it up straight away. We shall see.
I don’t think Hope was wrong to call Liam out on his hypocrisy at the office. He wants to be forgiven for all the times he hurt her, cheated etc but is unwilling to consider forgiveness for Thomas. Never mind he’d still be rotting in prison if Thomas hadn’t come forward! Thomas was held hostage because he wanted to tell the truth and set Liam free. Apparently that counts for nothing!
been watching this show for 25 years and im done with bridge and tridge, time to move on! Shauna would be a refreshing fit for ridge and maybe deacon with brooke and bill with taylor? It may be an unpopular opinion but im rooting for brooke and taylor! what happened to jackie and nick marone..didnt he have a baby with felicia?
Soul dont care about values.There are no good or bad just experiences.And they have soul contract for sure.If it would be real fife not soap.And Thomas is like indigo type 3,with 2 avatar inbodied.When he is on dark path then Seraphim is taking lead.Like reptiles.
Lynn, no. 😂🤣 But Helen mentioned values and we've been talking for days about Hope's values. She also mentioned good and bad, which we've also been talking about - Hope being a good person and the bad things Thomas has done in the past. She then said "they" have a soul contract, so I figured she is referring to what is happening with Thomas and Hope. It also helped that she mentioned Thomas in her next sentence. 🤭
Brooke want to be Ridge that is why she lied to Taylor that her other family will be at the dinner. Also Hope has feelings for Thomas that is why she Fantasizing about the almost kiss and seeing Thomas face while looking at Liam!!!
Lynn Thomas was a teenager when Brooke slept with both of her daughters Men. Hope was born with the affair she had with Deacon, her daughter, Bridget husband. Also slept with Hope boyfriend, Oliver at her Graduation party. Not to mentioned affair with his grandmother, Stephanie husband, Eric. Also she tried to have sex with Thomas at the photo shoot on the Island, and threatened to fire him if he told anyone. Brooke MADINESS goes on and on over the years. Lynn you have the Audacity to BLAME Thomas for Ridge and Brooke not being together after having a woman being part of his life for years that caused so much pain and suffering to people she said she loved and people he loved including his Mother, Taylor!!!
Barbara, what is with you FF’s blatantly lying about what happened? You literally saw Hope come in and cancel for dinner because she wanted to have a special ROMANTIC evening with her husband, Liam!! Brooke didn’t try to get Ridge alone…that’s ‘A’. And ‘B’…Hope obviously wants to patch things up with her husband, or she wouldn’t have come home. She would have stayed late at work to be with Thomas! Stop making stuff up to make a point!
Barbara, even the characters on the show BLAMED THOMAS for breaking up Brooke’s marriage to Ridge!! So much so in fact, that he lost his position at FC, and for a while there both Steffy and Ridge wanted nothing to do with Thomas! And that was his own family!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You don’t have to take my word for it. Just open your eyes and ears when you watch the show!!! Lol.
And oh by the way, Barbara…no one FORCED Ridge to CHOOSE Brooke! If you want to cast blame somewhere, then cast it at Ridge. Ridge is a big boy who makes his own choices in life. Brooke didn’t force Ridge to make a life with her, it’s simply what Ridge CHOSE to do!!
Lynn what has this got to do with if your FF's or a LF's . How is Barbara blatantly lying with what happened? Because you don't agree with her? Have you ever thought maybe Hope's conscious is playing a roll here? She's maybe trying hard to convince Liam with a romantic night and she has only feelings for him and not Thomas, and trying to convince herself? Just a thought.
Barbara, just for fun, I went online to get the TRUTH about what happened on the deserted island when you said Brooke tried to sleep with Thomas. Well here’s what the Soap reviews team said occurred. And newsflash - it’s not like you described it at all! 😂😂
These days Thomas and Brooke might be on opposite sides of the fence, but a few years back they were stranded on a deserted island and closer than ever – thanks to some psychedelic berries. Thomas was trying to make his way in the fashion industry with a new Forrester collection. After some advice from Whip Jones, Thomas kissed Brooke in front of the press during a fashion show, which helped launch his new line Taboo.
Thomas continued to be drawn to Brooke and even kissed her while she slept during a plane ride to Paris. Later, on their way to promote Thomas’ new line overseas their plane crashed, and Brooke and Thomas found themselves stranded and fighting for their lives on a deserted island. Starving, they both ingested psychedelic berries and hallucinated various sexual encounters. When they were rescued, neither was sure if they’d had sex while on the island.
In true Stephanie Forrester fashion she convinced Thomas to claim he’d slept with Brooke. His lie caused his father Ridge to walk out on Brooke – and back into Taylor’s arms, Dayzee to leave Thomas and the end of Taboo.
And as I have said. I have not been watching this soap that long but it sounds to me Brooke and Ridge have been on and off for many yrs...we're all of the break ups because of Thomas?
No D, this isn’t because I don’t AGREE with Barbara, it’s because she lied. She said Brooke lied to Taylor that other family members would be at the dinner. Brooke did NO SUCH THING!!! Hope came to the house and cancelled at the last minute so she could have alone time with Liam. Brooke didn’t lie to anyone about anything. That’s NOT OPINION! THAT’S FACT!!! Stick to the facts of you are gonna call people out for bad behavior.
D, I know you were having fun at my expense by being snarky about the “power of suggestion” comment I made. But I took no offense to it, because I called it just like it was with Hope and her fleeting thoughts about Thomas. If Hope and Thomas start hooking up or have an affair like some of the FF’s have suggested, then I will fully admit I was wrong. Right now it’s pure speculation. But you guys are saying it like it’s fact. In all the time I’ve watched the show, I’ve never seen Hope cheat. I think Hope is solid through and through. She doesn’t have cheating blood in her like Steffy does!! Lol
Sorry I thought you were referring to her message at 6.20pm was all a lie. Its late and trying to keep up with the comments on a phone, by the time I write a comment there are 5 more I haven't seen. 😴
You too, but I don't agree with fleeting thoughts about Thomas. I think there is more to it. . My opinion. We will see and I also will admit I was wrong.
Lynn, the same can be said about you. You spin the Hope/Liam romantic night being all about Hope and Liam trying to work out their earlier disagreement like it's a fact. You also spin Hope kissing Liam but seeing Thomas like Hope was horrified/disgusted as if it's a fact. However, Hope had been fantasizing about kissing Thomas and wondered what was wrong with her, which led to her rushing home to plan a romantic night for Liam where she again started fantasizing about kissing Thomas while she was kissing her husband. And yes, she was horrified but not in a disgusted way. She was horrified because, try as she might, she couldn't get Thomas out of her head. Even after he called her phone and Liam thanked and hugged her for not taking the call, she looked down at her phone (without any horror or disgust) while she was in her husband's arms. Yet, you refuse to acknowledge even the possibility that Hope is developing feelings, instead stating as fact that she is not.
And I'm surprised that you talk about "even the characters on the show BLAMED THOMAS for breaking up Brooke’s marriage to Ridge!!" when the very same characters (Liam, Brooke and Steffy) all made mention of Hope possibly having feelings for Thomas (Brooke was more "you can't have feelings for him because he's a bad boy and you don't like bad boys.") Maybe you also need to open your eyes and ears when you watch the show.
Elle 👍👍that's all I can say right now. Mmysh, don't flatter yourself with me memorizing your comments to me. It's the only one I ever see. Going to watch the beginning of SNL. Night 🌙 ladies.
Elle. Brooke and Liam did no such thing. Brooke commended Hope for being nothing like her (being attracted to bad boys like Brooke has been throughout her life.) I already covered this at length is a prior comment. And Liam never told Hope that he has concerns she is attracted to Thomas! He is simply upset that Hope keeps finding it in her to keep forgiving Thomas after all the horrible things Thomas has done to their family! Please point out the specific words / scenes when either Brooke or Liam were remotely concerned that Hope had romantic feelings for Thomas! You are gonna be extremely hard pressed to find those scenes, Elle. Lol!! My eyes and ears are working just fine. But I’ll be waiting for the details from you. 😬😬😁
Elle, absolutely no such thing occurred. Are you having dreams about the show when you sleep at night, then think your dreams are real when you wake up the next morning?? Lol. Brooke made no mention of Hope having feelings for Thomas. No mention whatsoever! She simply was giving her daughter praise and told Hope how much she admired the person Hope had become, because Brooke was always attracted to bad boys. Zero mention of Thomas was mentioned by Brooke. Brooke has never thought that Hope has any desire or feelings for Thomas. She has only been concerned about Hope’s naivety when it comes to Thomas. Nothing more. Moreover, Liam has never thought Hope has a thing for Thomas. But just like Brooke, Liam worries about Hope’s safety around Thomas. Literally Hope was on top of Thomas when Liam walked in on them, and Liam still blamed Thomas for what he saw! He has zero concern for Hope having sexual feelings toward Thomas! And I’m sure if he did, he would call Hope out on that instantly! Not to mention being totally disgusted by the idea of his wife being attracted to someone who has hurt their family repeatedly!
@Lynn During mannequin-gate, Liam was talking to Steffy about what he saw (Hope kissing Thomas) and he was trying to understand why Hope kept bringing Thomas back into her life. He alluded to Hope possibly having feelings for Thomas. Fast forward to their argument this week, he blatantly asked Hope for an answer as to why she keeps letting Thomas back into her life. Hope deflected and started talking about the line and that she didn't have a choice because Steffy was going to cut the line. Liam didn't buy it and told her that Steffy is smart and knows that they could have found another designer if they had given it some more time (which is something I also said regarding Hope deciding to bring Thomas back). Liam was trying to find out the real reason Hope keeps forgiving Thomas and taking him back.
Brooke was a little more subtle and not as direct as Liam. She asked Hope about how things were going with Thomas and Hope said that he had changed and it was good having him back on the line and that things were good between them, that they worked well together. Brooke then started the conversation about bad boys subtly suggesting to Hope that Thomas is a bad boy compared to Liam who Brooke was happy that Hope had a family with. Things don't have to be spelt out all the time. There is a lot that can be read between the lines. I'm sure you know that Lynn. I'm guessing that's why you talked about the power of suggestion. Maybe because you too knew that Brooke was referring to Thomas when she spoke about Hope not liking bad boys.
Lynn, I just went back and looked at Wednesday's show again and Brooke was not at all subtle about Hope possibly being drawn to Thomas. She flat out told Hope "Thomas is a bad boy and you don't like bad boys."
Brava Elle, you are spot on. Hope is fighting her attraction to Thomas. She’s trying to do the right thing and initiating a romantic evening with Liam to get her mind back in her marriage. Clearly it wasn’t working.
I will be happy to watch that scene again. What day was the discussion with Brooke and Hope about bad boys? I maintain Brooke was commending Hope for the life she has chosen and saying that Hope is nothing like Brooke in that regard. Her exact words as I recall were that she “admires Hope!” I remember zero reference to Thomas in that discussion. So since you ladies have evidently rewatched it, please tell me the date of the episode and I’ll be happy to revisit. I don’t think Brooke has one ounce of concern that Hope has any romantic feelings for Thomas. Brooke’s only concern is that Thomas will revert back to his old ways and start obsessing about Hope again. Because as Brooke has stated time and time again, that’s what Thomas ALWAYS does!!
I just saw that Elle mentioned Wednesday’s episode in her comment above. So I rewatched the scene with Brooke and Hope. I completely stand by what I said. There is zero mention of Thomas in that discussion, nor is Brooke alluding to anything like that. She started the conversation in reference to Ridge and her new found friendship with Taylor. Then Brooke went on to say Deacon, Bill, etc etc. The list of bad choices in men that Brooke has made in her past. Brooke was simply giving Hope a genuine compliment and nothing more. If Brooke had even an ounce of concern that Hope had feelings for Thomas, Brooke definitely would not have minced words. Brooke does NOT mince words. We all know that to be true! And Elle, I hope you also rewatched the interaction at lunch between Wyatt and Liam when Liam told Wyatt…”I absolutely trust Hope!!! It’s Thomas I don’t trust!!” So there goes your theory about Liam having concerns about Hope’s feelings for Thomas as well. I see two big bloopers on your theories! Lol
Lynn, at this point I am convinced that you are in such denial that you are now blocking out any scenes that make reference to Thomas. While Brooke and Hope were having the discussion about bad boy Thomas, he walked into the office. Hope explained that they had a fitting so Brooke excused herself and was leaving the office when Thomas told her that she was welcomed to stay and look on and give her thoughts. Brooke said that she was going to look for Ridge and she left. But I guess you probably blocked out those scenes as well since Thomas was in them.
Elle, I watched even more of Wednesday’s episode and have even more comments about that show. 1st. It was Wyatt who brought up Thomas’ name at lunch. It was not Liam! You ladies love to go on and on about how Liam is OBSESSING over Thomas, but it wasn’t even Liam who brought up Thomas’ name!! It was literally Wyatt!! 🤣🤣🤣 2. I know you have already conceded on this point, but Thomas was kind enough to remind the audience that it was “Steffy’s decision to bring Thomas back to FC.” It was not a board decision. 3. Thomas tells Ridge how he can see how everyone would be skeptical. Thomas says to Ridge…”I screw up, then apologize, then screw up and apologize, then go for a little while without messing up, then mess up again. And apologize again.” Well at least Thomas realizes why literally NO ONE should believe him when he says he changed!!! 4. I watched more of the episode this time to try to find the specific reference to Thomas that you said you heard Brooke make. And here’s the part you failed to mention when Brooke started her comment to Hope…. Brooke said, “I’m not worried about you honey, I’m worried about Thomas. Thomas is a bad boy and you don’t like bad boys.” As I said in my comment above, if Brooke had any concerns about Hope, Brooke would confront those concerns directly. Brooke is simply reminding Hope in that scene that if Thomas crosses any lines, Hope must make good on her word to boot him to the curb. No allowances for bad behavior by Thomas. No ‘looking the other way’ as Hope has a tendency to do. Brooke is definitely not trying to accuse Hope of having feelings for Thomas. Not subtly or otherwise.
Brooke is Hope's mother and as her mother, she will have a pretty good idea of what her daughter may or may not be feeling. She gave Hope the talk about Thomas being a bad boy because she sensed that Hope may be finding him attractive. Brooke senses this because of the way Hope talks about Thomas and from the way she used to defend Thomas last year. This is also why, when Hope came over in yesterday's show and started going off on her mom, Brooke was able to immediately recognize that Hope's behaviour had to do with her feelings for Thomas.
We see it two different ways, so I will just agree to disagree.
I had to laugh about how Hope is angelic. You do know that sleeping with another woman’s husband is a form of cheating right???? She has loved with and slept with Liam how many times while he was married to Steffens. She had no qualms about it either. She conceived Beth while Liam was married to Steffy. So Hope isn’t totally different than Brooke!!
I know LFs and Hope all feel she was entitled to do so because she had Liam first blah blah. It doesn’t change the fact she did in fact sleep with a married man over and over again. But oh Steffy gets called every nasty name there is. Liam gets a free pass. 🤮
Elle, your comment above is particularly comical to me. So let me get this straight…according to you (up until now) you have always taken all the characters at their word. Or let me rephrase that, you have always taken the Forresters at their word. I know this to be true because you and I have discussed it at great length. Here’s one example….When Thomas said “Someone else put the Hope mannequin behind the screen”….you believed him. Because per you “He said he didn’t put it there, so he didn’t.” Not to mention all the times you have believed Thomas when he has said he’s changed. Why…because Thomas said so. 😂😂😂 Howver, Thomas has proven time and time again to be the biggest liar on this show (well maybe Sheila has him beat - but BARELY!!!) So all your goings on and on about trusting lying Thomas because he “said so” is beyond ridiculous. But Brooke says to Hope on last Wednesday’s episode “I trust you honey, it’s Thomas I don’t trust!” And now ALL OF A SUDDEN we are no longer supposed to trust the words that come out of people’s mouths because it’s not your precious Thomas doing the talking??!!! I am on the floor laughing at your justification.for not believing Brooke’s words - because “you know better”, right Elle???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
I don't Condone Thomas for Reacting to Brooke MADINESS that she done over the years to lie, deceive, manipulate, cheat so many people, but I feel his pain!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂 just like you support the sluts too Thats goes for you too you know But still sluts better that murderers and psychopaths And its a soap so sleeping around is the backbone for the show But not for hope at least the when you don’t like 😂😂 And btw saying my comment you memorize was the only one but yet there are a comment talking about my comment about the writers thing So be careful no to loss your credibility Its embarrassing 😂😂😂😂
Dear fellow soap fans, can we please show some grace toward others? Barbara is a lovely senior lady and we’ve no idea of the trials and tribulations of her life or whether English is her native language. Her occasional posts brighten the blogs with her originality. Shouldn’t we appreciate that she has the ability to add her views? They don’t have to be perfect and calling her a liar, etc., is hurtful. She was bullied recently on another of Bob’s sites and she expressed how hurt she was. Always try to take the high road. Happy Easter.
People who tell lies are liars So when some come post events didn’t happened to bash a character while defend a psycho murderer People will call her out
Unknown its funny such lecture coming from you 😂😂😂 But anyway you are ok with lies but we don’t Im sure if she was telling these lies about steffy or Thomas we will not be blessed with such lecture
I agree, Mmysh. Opinion is one thing, but lies are lies. If you are gonna lie, be prepared to be called a liar. I don’t care how old she is. Age just means she should really know better!
Good thing Brooke is wearing the Blazing Beacon of soaps because the astronauts in the International Space Station can hurdle through the boring other people doing same old drippy rehash scenes. Brooke can get right to what could be "The Right Stuff," where Brooke tells Ridge she's in love with Taylor.
ReplyDeleteHope walks around like Gwyneth Paltrow with head in the clouds and not a thought on her mind. There is a photo of her straddling Liam with her buttcrack clear as day through sheer green material. She aint got no drawers or nothin' just total buttcrack. Reminds me of a Tim Wilson song, with the line, "Look at what she wears, there's nothin' under there." The photo is all over fb and it gets funnier every time I see it.
DeleteSo Brooke knows about Deacon's involvement in helping catch Sheila but doesn't care at all 😅 when did they even tell her? Wasn't it supposed to be a secret?
ReplyDeleteGood to see Ridge taking responsibility for his own actions and inactions that ruined his marriage.
Taylor can try to convince herself as much as she wants. Ridge and Brooke can't be just friendly... Too much love and history there.
Hey when is RJ coming on screen?? I was almost expecting him to walk in when they were talking about him. Would have been great.
Omg hahaha that Thomas face on Liam was so funny 😅 Like on "Friends" when Joey saw Ross on the baby face. Btw why was Thomas calling Hope while he was with his mom and sister?
Milla, Ridge and Bill promised Deacon to keep his involvement with Sheila a secret, not his part in getting her caught.
DeleteI thought the same about RJ, that he would walk in at that moment.
Thomas may have been calling to speak to Douglas since Taylor said that they were having a family dinner over at Brooke's.
Joey saw Ross' face on the baby literally. That's not what happened with Hope. She saw Thomas in place of her husband, not just his face on Liam's body. Hope can't seem to stop thinking about Thomas.
They showed only the face, nothing more like Thomas was taking the place of Liam. She did not go on to imagine him taking her and kissing her etc. She only saw his face for a sec. Even on Friends Ross' face was talking, here it was gone 😂
DeleteAnd reg Deacon - when they were telling the family and people asked "Why was she at IG?", they just mumbled something. Could have said Deacon was helping but didn't. Now it's a known fact. Strange.
@ Milla Just watching this, I was wondering when Brooke will break her promise with Taylor and it certainly look like it was going to happen in this episode, let see about manana. There is a talk rumor suggesting the possibility of B&B of Ridge connecting with Sauna, Liam with Ivy all because Bradley is thinking of bringing them back in to the picture. Well, Bradley certainly isn't the kind of guy who likes to keep couples together for long, that is one of the reasons I don't like his way of thinking for this soap.
DeleteWell I don't care so much about Brooke's pinky swear to Taylor. They've been friends for 5 minutes and this friendship is far-fetched at best. Brooke and Ridge will get back together eventually and Taylor knows it (or should know it). When they pull them apart it's only so that their reunion is that much more wanted and grand. People don't watch soaps to see two cougars lunch and giggle. It's for the love and the drama.
DeleteI, too, don’t care about Taylor and Brooke’s over-the-top friendship but I suspect that Brooke will turn Ridge down and then he will find his way to Taylor and start his flirtation with her. She will also shut him down which will force Ridge to look elsewhere but who is there? Li, Paris (ew), some model or as some of you mentioned that Shauna may return. R.J. could still walk in on them. Isn’t he due back soon?
DeleteUnknown I expect the exact same thing regarding Ridge. He will have his rebound with another lady (not Taylor, she will stick to the pact) and that will end when his love for Brooke takes over.
DeleteI'm also wondering about RJ, it's time 🤩🤩
RJ should be in next week, that’s what i read
DeleteI guess we can safely say that Taylor has a lot more self-control than Brooke. Brooke is such a tease. She just can't help herself. 🤦🏻♀️
ReplyDeleteWhat do you call a husband whose wife desperately attempts to make love to him because she's trying to forget another man? Is Liam the rebound? 🤷🏻♀️
Brooke is cautiously optimistic that Thomas has changed. Very interesting. Seems they're making room for Hope to open up to her mom about her feelings for Thomas without Brooke getting all crazy. I like it. 😁
More control of herself 😂😂😂
DeleteOh please, did you see the scowl on Taylor’s face when she told Steffy and Thomas that Ridge was with Brooke? If Taylor was with Ridge right now, she’d be flirting like the cheerleader to the football player! Ridge should have gone home. Why is he still there? Ridge wants Brooke, it’s very clear. Yes, Brooke and Ridge will end up back together. Although I still think Brooke can do better. He will always be the waffler in my eyes.
DeleteElle, sorry nope. Hope wasn’t intentionally fantasizing about Thomas. Did you see the look of terror in her eyes when she saw herself kissing Thomas? That’s not someone enjoying a fantasy. That’s someone who is freaked out that this man is popping into her head.
DeleteSigh. Lynn, you see what you want to see. I'm fine with that. ☺️
DeleteAnd btw, Taylor was with Ridge the day before and I saw no flirting. However, I did see Ridge go over to her and held her hand and she pulled away from him. And rightfully so. He did leave her at the altar, so I don't believe Taylor would have flirted with Ridge. Brooke, otoh, knows she wasn't going to give in to Ridge yet she flirted with him. That's why I said she is a tease and can't help herself.
DeleteElle, sorry, but I see you comparing apples and oranges. The two events aren’t remotely comparable. Ridge and Brooke are alone together in Brooke’s home having dinner together. The event you are comparing is at Eric’s with the rest of the family in arm’s reach, not to mention earshot. Totally different circumstances / dynamic. I maintain if Taylor was standing where Brooke was…with Ridge doing everything less picking Brooke up and carrying her upstairs, Taylor would have been all over that! Kissing would have occurred and quite possibly other things as well. And I didn’t see Taylor pull away from Ridge when he put his hand on her at Eric’s to assure her all was gonna be fine now. Taylor smiled at Ridge and was relieved and grateful. No pulling away from Ridge whatsoever. And why would she, he wasn’t offering her a roll in the hay, just reassurance that she was safe now!! Lol
DeleteI don't know what you are talking about Lynn. I'm talking about Thursday's show that started with Steffy welcoming Ridge back. I can't remember what they were talking about but Ridge reached out and held Taylor's hands and she pulled away from him. There was no rest of the family there, just Steffy.
DeleteJust glanced at all the comments tonight, but are we now blaming writers for the whole Hope and Thomas situation? Something a few people would always laugh about. Hypocritical? Nooo
DeleteElle your beating a dead horse.
D, I know. They refused to see the signs since last year so now, they think Hope's feelings are "all of a sudden." im leaving that right there.
DeleteYes..it's the writers fault.
DeleteOh D 😂😂😂😂 i thought you are smarter than that
DeleteOr trying to be smart
But still i will explain it to you
We were making fun of some here they know themselves 😂😂😂
Comments still there
So nice try 😂😂😂
But its was good coz it proves so many things 😂😂
Oh hilarious
I was not even expecting that for someone not to understand what we meant but here we go 😂😂😂
Oh Mmysh you never fail to disappoint.
Delete"I think the writers want to switch the couples now"
DeleteThis was a direct quote from you, Mmysh, about your own opinion on what is going on in the show. Doesn't sound like you were making fun of anyone. It sounds like you are blaming the Liam/Hope troubles on the writers wanting to switch up the couples. But I'm sure you'll deny it. Carry on then.
😂😂😂😂 oh d you crack me up all the time
DeleteIt good to have you here
Keep it up
Oh elle actually the comment i wrote making fun wasn’t that
DeleteIF you read my comment carefully maybe you would understand
But sure you only read to reply as always
I wrote this comment about switching couples because i was talking about spoilers not because im blaming the writers
I was talking about the reason behind those spoilers if they are right of course
But sure you will see it that was so you can use it 😂
Actually i was so hard on hope i didn’t come up with excuses or fool myself
Like you guys do even when it comes to murder
And d im honored really you memorize my comments like that
DeleteSo happy to have this impact on you 😂😂😂😂
Elle, are you seriously comparing the events between Taylor and Ridge and Brooke and Ridge?? Seriously?? I watched the scene you are referring to with Taylor when he was APOLOGIZING to her for what he and Bill put her through. He grabbed her hands appropriately during the apology. He wasn’t trying to bed her at that moment with Steffy standing right there in the office at FC! For goodness sakes…read into things much??!!
DeleteNow let’s take a look at the scene with Ridge and Brooke at Brooke’s house when he leans in and looks into her eyes and tells her he misses her, then kisses he gently on her neck. Then he proceeds to comment “lucky sheets” when he sees her in her lingerie. Come on, Elle!!!! Ridge is clearly wanting to have sex with Brooke!! But she sticks to her pact with Taylor and even brings that up when he’s about to kiss her. I’m not so sure she is going to continue to reject his advances on Monday’s show, however. We’ll have to see how it goes. But Ridge is DEFINITELY putting the moves on Brooke!!
Elle, we didn’t refuse to see anything. We maintain Hope loves Liam her husband, and her family with Liam. Nothing has changed. You guys predicted the same nonsense last time. It was a swing and a miss. And I expect the same thing to happen this time.
DeleteI wasn't comparing or attempting to compare anything, Lynn. I was responding to you saying that Taylor would also jump at the opportunity to flirt with Ridge and I used the scene where Ridge held her hand and she pulled away. She had an opportunity right then and there to flirt with him and she didn't. You seem to forget that Taylor left LA to get away from Ridge. She ended up almost being married to him because he came after her. Bad judgement on her part, which cost her. She's not going to put herself in that position again no matter how much you would like her to.
DeleteNot to be way from ridge
DeleteFirst because bill told her to leave L.A after she shot him
And because she couldn’t stand seeing ridge with brook
It was never said that Hope doesn't love her husband and family, just that she is developing feelings for Thomas. I don't know what hit and miss you are referring to because Hope literally had a memory of a fitting she did with Thomas last year when his hands were on her body. Refusing to see that Hope's attraction for Thomas started last year when she admitted that he was hot does not mean that it didn't happen. She was also giving him lingering looks and "accidentally" touching his hand last year too. And let's not forget her allowing him to come into her personal space to kiss her before stopping him.
Delete@Mmysh Huh? I'm talking about last year when Taylor and Steffy went to Aspen and stayed at Bill's place. That's when Ridge came after her and they had that silly chase in the mountains.
DeleteElle, Taylor has been nothing but a swooner, a teenager in love, and desperate to get Ridge’s love ever since she has been back on the show. You are giving her way too much credit when it comes to having willpower around Ridge. If given the opportunity, and circumstances are right…my money is on Taylor kissing Ridge.
DeleteShe is so desperately in love with him. I’ve already said I think Brooke could cave too. I don’t think either woman is strong enough to reject Ridge’s advances for too long. They both still love the waffler. That much is clear.
Sorry elle it seems i Understand wrong the period you are referring too
DeleteBut still we all know why ridge went after her
And now since he will got rejected from brook probably she will stick to the pact
So he will try with Taylor next and sure the so changed man will start playing the match maker again and interferes in his parents private life
He even starts to worry about his father getting back with brook while it none of his business
So his apology to brook means nothing
So i hope Taylor will stay strong for herself because the pressure will be so high
And elle a plus Point on the “im sure you will deny it”
DeleteI can’t deny something i didn’t do it on the first place
And i never did
Its not my problem when someone do not want to understand or trying to fish in troubled water 😊
Lynn, I think maybe you forgot a number of key episodes about Taylor such as the one where she told Brooke that Ridge was in love with the both of them. Or the one where she told Steffy that Ridge had hurt her so many times over the years with Brooke but she kept taking him back, and she didn't want to do that again. It was what led to her going to Aspen. Sure she was giddy and flirty with Ridge before but that all changed once she left LA and went to Aspen. Taylor has learnt her lesson with Ridge. She's not going to go there with him. Loving Ridge is one thing but protecting their hearts is another. Taylor is not going to give her heart back to Ridge so easily. Brooke, otoh, will willingly give her heart to Ridge knowing that he also loves Taylor. But you have to remember that Taylor has lived her life without Ridge for a long time so she's used to being without him. Brooke, not so much.
Delete@Mmysh How does Thomas' apology to Brooke mean nothing? Ridge and Brooke are no longer together so even if Thomas does encourage his parents to get back together, he's not coming between Ridge and Brooke. He apologized for ending their marriage but his loyalty is not to Brooke so why do you see it as a Brooke betrayal meaning he has not changed? And what does his change have to do with wanting his parents back together? Not too long ago, Hope wanted her parents back together. Nothing's wrong with that.
Delete@Mmysh You spoke about writers switching the couples and used the excuse that you were talking about spoilers so you did actually deny that you were using it as an excuse for what Hope and Liam are going through right now. But even if you were talking about spoilers, you still gave the opinion that the writers switching couples will explain while certain couples may not be together soon, or will cheat in the future. Your excuse is that it's the writers that will break them up.
DeleteElle, that’s just another prediction you are making. Just like you are making predictions about Hope and Thomas winding up together. I maintain that Hope will keep her wedding vows to Liam, and nothing will happen between Hope and Thomas. I also maintain that if it comes to Ridge actually making the moves on Taylor (which he has yet to do since he returned to town), that Taylor won’t reject his advances for more than 5 minutes. So we’ll see….
DeleteAs i said you believe what you want even with us the real people 😂😂
DeleteIts really frustrating
I wasn’t blaming the writers im against that actually
And if i did i will say it in a direct way
And if the spoilers i was talking about were true ohhhh that will back fire on your faces big time 😂😂😂
So will see then
Im sure none of u will blame the writers because we called you out for it for so many times so will see the excuses what is gonna be
Elle and how long did Taylor's resolve last *in* Aspen? A "jog to the mountain" time 😅 she didn't even demand to know why he left Brooke and if he was divorced. Lol.
DeleteBtw it was me mentioning the writers and it was about the cheap manipulations that they show - someone's two second thoughts. I don't blame them for whole storylines a la "ahhh stupid writers Thomas behind CPS and being the bad one again waaa". If Hope does allow something to happen with Thomas I won't blame the writers but her.
DeleteMilla, both excellent points! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
DeleteThanks milla
DeleteIts Just fishing in the troubled water
Me saying how the writers think and how the soaps is not blaming the writers
And it so clear but still elle is insisting that i do and im deny it
She knows even our intentions not only the show characters 😂😂
Milla, I did address Taylor's lapse in judgement in Aspen and how it cost her. Maybe you did not read that part of my comment. I also said, because of that, she is not going to allow Ridge to take advantage of her again so I do not believe she will be flirty with him. It was proven when Ridge held her hands recently and she pulled away.
DeleteRegarding blaming the writer, I was being specific with a comment Mmysh posted, not yours, dear.
Mmysh, you can try as much as you want to defend using the writers as an excuse for why couples may separate in the future but just as you like to call us out when we do it, we're just returning the favor.
Delete😂😂😂😂 u just proved my point
DeleteThanks 😊
@Lynn I haven't made a prediction about Thomas and Hope being together, others have, but not me. My stance since last year is that Hope has feelings for Thomas. I've also said on numerous occasions that Hope needs to set boundaries with Thomas or, at the very least, put some distance between them.
DeleteI would love for Hope to kick Liam to the curb and be with Thomas but it's too early to tell if that will happen. I will however, continue to insist that she is developing feelings for him whether you want to see it or not.
Elle 😅 and I was referring to D mentioning blaming the writers not you.
DeleteIt looks like episode is not fully uploaded, scenes seems to be cut before it is complete, in the beginning 1minute in, and also by Steffy,Taylor and Thomas's conversation and by the end.
ReplyDeleteHopes "power of suggestion " scenes are getting stronger. 😆
ReplyDeleteSo much for BF's pinky swearing.
Did they say in one of the shows when Deacon got involved? I was waiting to see if it was early on when he was harbouring Sheila. Someone told me to go back to last weeks episodes it was all explained, haven't had time.
"Life is like a box of chocolates " its full of surprises.
Happy Easter 🐣
Have a good long weekend.
D, Hope will need to have a serious talk with her mother about her current predicament. I can just hear her now: "Mom, look at what you've caused. Now I can't stop thinking about bad boy Thomas. Mom, I think I want the bad boy." 😂 😂 😂 Brooke led her daughter to the water AND made her drink. 😂 😂
DeleteElle, lmao 🤣 😂
Deletewait for it.....
Brooke seems to have a multitude of powers. Not only does she have super sensory abilities, but she can also manipulate a person's mind to make them do things that they don't really want to do.
DeleteI'm waiting... 😂
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DeleteElle you got it. 😆
DeleteThe snarkiness isn’t as effective when you’re clearly wrong, ladies.
DeleteBut knock yourselves out.
Your snarkiness isn’t nearly as effective when you’re straight up wrong, ladies. But knock yourselves out. Still waiting for that love affair between Thomas and Hope. Oh wait, that will happen when he’ll freezes over!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI’ve attempted to respond to this three times now. For some reason comments keep disappearing.
DeleteElle, Hope isn’t ‘doing’ anything. She has not been inappropriate with Thomas. And I still believe she is “freaked out” by the things that have popped into her mind about Thomas. So your snide comment about Brooke’s super powers fall on deaf ears. You know dang well when someone plants a seed in someone else’s mind, the receiving person will most likely think about what was said for at least a little while. Brooke planted the seed in Hope’s mind about bad boys. Hope has yet to act on any of those thoughts. If and when she does, then you will have a leg to stand on. But right now it’s still just wishful thinking on your part.
Yes Lynn, I know dang well about planting seeds but I also know dang well that the power of suggestion will not work on someone who does not want it to work. Hope fantasizing about kissing Thomas would not have happened if she did not want to kiss him, no matter how many times it is suggested.
DeleteI disagree. It’s like the car wreck on the side of the road as you drive by. You know you shouldn’t look, but curiosity gets the best of you and you look anyway. And once you look, you are horrified by what you see. These weird thoughts popping into Hope’s head will subside and all will be well in Liam and Hope land.
DeleteNo affair, no leaving Liam for Thomas. It will end up being a big nothing-burger!
At least we are not cheering to something so offensive to women just because we hate a character or just want to score some points
DeleteNonetheless defending a disgusting character like thomas 🤮🤮and wish
him a happy ending
That is enough for us
And if hope really go for she will be stupid and doesn’t have enough respect for herself and the value of her as a person
To have feelings for some that low and disgusting 🤮
Lynn, curiosity means that they want to know or have a desire to know, it doesn't just pop out of nowhere. That desire to know is what made them look. The power of suggestion is just that - a suggestion. A person can choose to entertain the suggestion or not. Hope's love for her husband should not make her want to look at another man, much less to fantasize about kissing him. Also, Brooke only spoke to Hope about bad boys this week, so how do you explain Hope, since last year, admitting to Thomas being hot and remembering his hands on her during a fitting they were doing for the HFTF launch also last year?
Delete@Mmysh Yet you continue to cheer for Liam who has cheated on and hurt Hope numerous times in the past. You cheer for him even though he committed vehicular manslaughter and decided not to tell the police about it. Sure, Bill made him hide the truth from the police but what does that say about weak, spineless Liam who cannot have an independent thought about how his actions would affect his wife and family, but rather, he preferred to curl up on his father's couch freaking out like a girl. Please! Thomas' main downfall is being obsessed with Hope. At least he's actively working on himself and receiving therapy which is progress, slow but sure. Hope has forgiven him and sees the changes he's making. Steffy and Ridge are also seeing changes. Even Brooke told Ridge that she sees the changes in Thomas and is cautiously optimistic about his progress. People who are willing to put in the work are capable of change and should not be defined by their past. And I believe that's why Hope is starting to fall for him. She sees that he is genuinely trying to be better.
DeleteOh elle these excuses are even more funnier 😂😂
DeleteWhere did you see us cheering for liam
But still he is way better than the psycho murderer
Did he went to jail for killing emma
No
And are really speaking about liams accident 😂😂
We all remember how and why and because of whom that happened
And i remember your guys comments that oh when hope will know she will be disgusted with liam and turned to thomas 😂😂😂
The things thomas did is disgusting
The welling to drug a women to sleep with her ,,, really 🤮
And how Douglas were conceived
I really don’t know how anyone can like such a behavior
I don't care who Hope ends up with. I just can't see Hope falling for her abuser. It sends a bad message to those who have been abused.
but sure who cares about that even its a soap when this person is disgusting thomas
And its funny bashing liam for cheating like he cheated with a wall not steffy 😂😂
But sure she was excused she had a lot of drinks 😂😂😂
So if cheering for liam the cheater is wrong ( which i didn’t do)
How you cheer steffy and find excuses for her cheating
Mmmmm what we call that 😂😂
Oh I am cheering for Liam. He was never ever malicious. Thomas has been mostly malicious. He wanted to hurt and acted based on that. And he will again. Liam grew up immensely especially since he became a father to Beth. Comparing the two is like comparing Aladdin and Jafar.
DeleteExactly milla
DeleteNo comparison
At least liam was falling apart out of his guilt about vinny
Even starting having hallucinations
Thomas has nothing when he killed emma and it was on purpose
A lot pf people can pass on cheating but murder absolutely not
And most disgusting when he asked vinny to bring drugs and he almost put it in her drink but Douglas called and saved her from getting rape
Or one he bargained Douglas for sex 🤮🤮🤮 how disgusting and low and sick is that
especially for women
So liam is a cheater but steffy is too and yet they defend her 😂
I remember Liam running as fast as his legs could carry him to Steffy when he believed his wife was making out and going to sleep with Thomas.
DeleteYou LF’s keep saying he doesn’t worry Hope is attracted to Thomas. Of course he does!!! He utterly convinced his wife slept with Thomas, made out with him and didn’t even try to stop it or question her??? Even Steffy told him as soon as he arrived that he must be mistaken or there was an explanation etc. He had NO pause, NO trouble believing his wife, Hope cheated on him with Thomas. He brings up the mannequin constantly. Of course he forgets he used that as an excuse to cheat on his wife.
I was glad that Hope reminded him of that. He was already a father twice over at that point. Liam’s whole affect right now is like a spoiled child needing to be coddled.
I don’t him having matured that much. He was right back to his usual leaping to conclusions ans running off etc. He’s manipulating Hope by throwing tantrums and making her feel guilty anytime she disagrees with him. He wants to be the boss in their marriage instead of her partner. He’s always been that way.
He says he supports Hope but at the same time tells his brother is she loses her line it’s not that big a deal. I mean they are both trust fund brats so no worries there.
He really doesn’t understand how much HFTF is tied up in her own identity and she needs that for herself.
I was actually very pleased they gave Steffy a new fella that loves and is loyal to her. Liam was just running back and forth between Hope and Steffens hurting them both. I think Hope deserves better.
I still think that eventually Thomas and Hope will have something together other than work. They have always had great chemistry with the two current actors. I hope the writers give them a chance.
Great let us put her with her abuser
DeleteHow sick and offensive 🤮🤮🤮
But sure we even cheer that since its tommy boy 🤮 not only a murderer but doesn’t have problem with drudging a woman to sleep with her
Not to mention how he took advantage of Caroline to hurt his father
Disgusting 🤢
Yeah still Liam is times better human than Thomas and Hope knows it. Thomas is working on himself for years and it's still the same every year. Liam slips into conclusions, Thomas slips into malicious criminal behavior. That settles it right there.
DeleteJust wait until liam with steffy again he will be the best ever
DeleteAnd if hope will be so stupid to be with nutjob thomas she will be the best also 😂😂😂
Elle, really? You are bringing up the “Thomas is hot” comment when you absolutely know Hope didn’t just offer that up! It was literally dragged out of her by Paris. It’s not like she was sitting around with her friends having girl talk, and Hope confessed to her friends that she thought Thomas was hot. Just the opposite in fact. Paris kept pushing her to admit Thomas was attractive. And after multiple attempts by Paris, Hope finally reluctantly admitted it. Please don’t twist things to make a point.
DeleteAnd Hope’s memories of things that happened last year with Thomas are all interrelated. Brooke brought up being attracted to bad boys, and it started bringing up thoughts of Hope’s interactions with Thomas. Past, present…all of it. Doesn’t mean anything is going to come of this. Like I said above, you are making way too much of something that’s gonna turn out to be nothing.
All this stuff that’s going on in Hope’s mind is related to what Brooke said about bad boys, and most likely Steffy’s concerns bothered Hope as well. So she is second guessing herself at the moment. This too shall pass.
BBFAN, I honestly don’t think Liam is worried about Hope’s attraction to Thomas. I think Liam is just concerned about Hope’s naiveté’ when it comes to Thomas.
DeleteExactly lynn the circumstances around the event is important to know the meaning behind it
DeleteThe way hope said he is hot is not reliable enough to use it to make a point
Im furious with hope really how could she have feelings for him
After everything im tired to mentioning the horrors he did to her
If she was having these feelings for anyone else it would not be that bad like with her disgusting abuser
Mmysh, I honestly believe as this plays out we will be shown that we have nothing to worry about with Hope’s feelings for Thomas. I think we are being tricked right now (dare I say it….by the WRITERS) with these thoughts in Hope’s head. Don’t lose faith in Hope. She won’t fall for Thomas. That’s just not who Hope is.
DeleteExactly Lynn. Cheap tricks to raise the tension "will she, won't she". Even if she has a moment of weakness with him, it won't turn into something real.
DeleteI hope that too ladies and it not about scoring points 😂😂
DeleteIt about what hope presents and what thomas presents to her
Her abuser 🤮🤮🤮
I don’t even know how anyone can support that 🤮🤮
So the marriage failed because of Thomas’s dirty manipulation
ReplyDeleteAnd Thomas pushing his mom to go after ridge yeah to much for changed tommy boy
Hope what is exactly are you doing
Really how a women in her right mind will has feelings for her abuser it’s disgusting
You will lose everything thing over a shitty disgusting psycho
It doesn’t make sense but will see
And it seems the spoilers are mostly true
There will be a cheating but not hope 🤭
So let us wait and see
@Mmysh Hope always used to talk about her values, if it going to happen that Hope falls for Thomas then her values will mean "0". Remember back when Liam was going to divorce Steffy and Hope (Kim Matula) was visiting that "Cafe" that later turned into "Daisies" and her and Liam started hanging around together there and there was this little girl who had admired Hope? Well, I'm surprised that from the time that little girl saw her and exposed Hope, I was surprised that Hope's line was still in business, when I thought she would've been finished for good.
DeleteYes Elizabeth that’s why im so shocked and disgusted with her
DeleteIts so sudden and out of her character
And really it’s offensive to women
Maybe she has a tumor 😂😂😂😂
Because no women in her right mind will do this with someone who used her grief to get in her pants and then his son in a bargain for sex 🤮🤮
So any heartache she will get she deserve it
And yeah i remember this scene exactly
It was her first time she used the pills 💊
And as you said the line survived that and even thrived more and more and brought millions but now only tommy boy can save it
Ridiculous
Mmysh don't be so hard on Hope for seeing Thomas face for two and a half seconds. You know those are the cheap tricks of the writers and you shouldn't be so disillusioned by one of your favorites for it. It's about a person's actions not fleeting thoughts. When you see her cheat then okay, but let's see if it comes to that, like Lynn said in 5 years she hasn't been shown to cheat once.
DeleteTo me it was much more astonishing how she weaponized Liam's past mistakes in a fight, that was terrible. But it seems he's still very much trying to patch things up. Let's see where it goes.
"ElizabethApril 7, 2023 at 2:01 PM
Delete@Mmysh Hope always used to talk about her values, if it going to happen that Hope falls for Thomas then her values will mean "0". Remember back when Liam was going to divorce Steffy and Hope (Kim Matula) was visiting that "Cafe" that later turned into "Daisies" and her and Liam started hanging around together there and there was this little girl who had admired Hope? Well, I'm surprised that from the time that little girl saw her and exposed Hope, I was surprised that Hope's line was still in business, when I thought she would've been finished for good. "
.. what episode was this? And what year? Where can i see this? Anyone who know? Please let me know!!
Hi johanna it was with previous actress who played hope
DeleteIt was season 25
https://youtu.be/oeI0ugldZak
Here is the link of the episode
And it all uploaded on the official youtube channel of the program
Yes milla i agree with you
DeleteWe still need to know why and how suddenly she is having those fantasies
Its out of character for her
But im sure she will not cheat
Not only on the last 5 years
Hope never cheated
It was wrong when she dated Wyatt and liam at the same time
But still during that she didn’t sleep with any of them
And they knew about it
But still wrong to me dating 2 people at the same
But what makes me sick is how really could she with Thomas it’s offensive to women
If its any other guy it’s wrong but not offensive
Im sure you got my point
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DeleteExactly Mmysh, Hope's actions especially in recent years were always honorable. It's actually even expected when you've been a good girl for so many years but are subject of pressure and suggestion from so many places (from Thomas, Liam, Brooke, Steffy for whatever reason), to start freaking out and having your mind go weird places. That would look and develop in a completely different way if it was coming from a place of true feelings. Hope is still the person that you admire.
Milla, spot on!!
DeleteMilla 👍👍👍
DeleteHope is indeed a good girl with a huge heart. It's why she kept in contact with her dad while he was in prison and why she supports Thomas' efforts to turn his life around. Falling for him while being married does not automatically make her a bad girl. It is a sign however, that all may not be kosher in her marriage. She tried so hard to focus on her husband by preparing a romantic dinner but she could not. Something is definitely wrong there and that's where Liam needs to examine his actions over the last number of months. Hope said a lot to him during their argument. I hope Liam was listening because it seems Hope has a lot of pent up anger about the things her husband has done in the past. Liam had the audacity to ask Hope how much more should he have to take. It seems he forgot about how much he has asked Hope to take from him.
DeleteLike I said before, that's the worst way to fight with your s.o weaponizing past mistakes. It's only damaging and nobody is a winner. Liam can do 0 about the past. Or is the way to rectify it to take more and more Thomas crap? His mistakes stand in no reasonable relation to what Thomas put *them* through. Liam is mad, hurt and protective on both of their behalf (and their kids!) for which Hope is punishing him with bringing up the past.
DeleteTotally agree milla
DeleteIf it was another guy liam will be jealous as mad as hope when he cheated
But with tommy boy
He is not a random guy
He did so much hurt to them
Fed on their grieve deprived them from the first precious months of their daughter‘s first months something they will not get back
Yeah we will hear he is not the one who started that what an excuse
But anyway none of the people involved are a potential love interest and for whom hope herself
Its really disgusting from her to have feelings for her abuser
And i really can’t understand the she admit he is hot 😂😂😂 although we know how and why she said it even though its doesn’t mean feelings
Mmysh that admission comes again from Hope being a good person. Think of the alternatives:
Delete1. "Ugh no, he's not hot" - almost rude
2. *silence* - High School Musical wannabes Paris and Steffy wouldn't leave her alone and read into that too!
She did the perfect thing: saying yes he is (polite) and asserting Liam is still the hottest.
And telling paris if i say yes can we get back to work in another meaning will you shut up 😂😂😂
DeleteBut in general still saying someone is hot doesn’t mean in love with them or has feelings
Exactly! It only means that to people purposefully looking for trouble.
DeleteExactly milla
DeleteParis is just an ass kisser and trouble maker 🤮🤮
Ahahaha Liam is the hottest but Hope can't even kiss him without thinking about hot, bad boy Thomas. Y'all are too funny. 😂 😂 😂At least y'all admit that Hope finds Thomas hot, and that's good enough for me. 😌
DeleteAll we admitted was that she would say pretty much anything to get Paris off her hair 😅. But Elle I want you to be happy so okay I’ll concede that she finds him hot.
DeleteYeah elle anything to make you happy even when u understand what we meant the opposite way
DeleteIt ok with is 😂😂😂😂
Btw I wasn't sarcastic, when I read this "it's good enough for me" I wanted to give Elle a virtual hug ☺️
DeleteAw, thanks guys. 😁
DeleteI'm not sure what you mean by "the opposite way," but if it's along the lines of "Hope would say pretty much anything," my question will then be whether y'all think that good girl Hope with her values would rather LIE to Paris about Thomas being hot rather than to simply insist that she does not find him hot? I mean, why would Hope lie about finding her abuser hot? That baffles me somewhat if that is what y'all mean regarding Hope's "hot" comment.
It's a matter of saving time and getting immature Paris off her hair. Since there would be no winning with her and she would keep pushing, saying "no" would only drag out this ridiculousness. She said "can we get back to work if I say yes" - doesn't get more clear than that 😅
DeleteThis one is for Elle and Unknown - it seems Hope’s and Thomas’ love affair is off to a very rocky start! In fact so much so, that Hope has set up a special romantic evening for her and Liam. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteAnd I love how Steffy and Thomas and Taylor are clearly annoyed that Ridge is spending time with Brooke, while they are all for Ridge spending time with Taylor. Hilarious!!!!! What a bunch of hypocritical crap and exactly what I expect from those three!!!
As someone else said above….Thomas is already back to his old manipulations. That didn’t take long!! And looks like Ridge is pining for Brooke again! No surprise there.
We’ll see where this Hope / Thomas thing goes. My guess is still ‘NOWHERE’!
As I said yesterday, don’t get ahead of yourselves ladies.
And I love how Liam and Hope both want to set aside the anger from earlier in the day and get back to the loving place. Neither one is angry. They both want to work through their issues. Definitely not a continuation of the blowup they had earlier in the day.
DeleteNo lynn come on she is just having sex with her husband to forget about tommy boy 😂😂😂
DeleteAnd really how ridiculous that was for him to call her while oh i don’t want to cause trouble 😂
That was a very weak scene
And yeah too much for respecting his mother’s wishes or the friendshipand the friend he himself granted brook with as a result of his sick manipulation 😂😂😂
But i give it to Taylor she didn’t go along with these too brats
And thomas saying that finn is never home makes me think about some spoilers i read and today there was 2 clues leading to that
So will see
Oh Mmysh, I would love to see Finn cheat on Steffy! Now that would be worth watching!! Lol
DeleteI agree with Milla that these little blips with Thomas on Hope’s mind will be very short lived. And like Milla said, the writers are simply trying to throw us off. Hope knows who Thomas is. She won’t be taken in by him. Like you mentioned, he has done horrible things to Hope and her family. Hope would never, ever have a relationship with him! She just won’t!
Can’t wait for hope and Thomas affair it’ll be a good one , serves Liam right for being a jealous thing towards hope that day , he’s the one that pushed them 2 together , u go hope go after Thomas u make a better couple,
DeleteUnknown, you just keep dreaming. 😂😂😂
DeleteAnd no, Liam’s behavior isn’t pushing Thomas and Hope together. That’s why Hope set up a romantic evening with her HUSBAND!!! To make it right with Liam!! Where’s the romantic evening with Thomas that you keep mentioning??? 🤣🤣🤣
That’s why she did that dinner so she can forget about Thomas , and obvious she can’t get him out of her head , cause she was thinking bout him again , and noticed after she saw his face she kissed Liam even harder , do I don’t think ur watching it , or getting the whole situation , oh well we have to wait and see when the time comes
DeleteAh speaking of Steffy did you guys see the previous episode when Ridge mentioned Liam, she again made that face (which with the excessive botox looked even more 🤡 happy) 😅 But I give her credit that she stopped pushing her mother towards Ridge, I couldn't bear to hear that anymore.
DeleteAnd Taylor indeed didn't look at all convinced. She still believes the dinner included the younger generations and is yet to find out was quite more intimate 😁 Ridge was totally craving him some Logan ☺️
So i don’t think ur watching it properly
DeleteThat was ment for Lynn
DeleteUnknown, you must have missed the look of terror on Hope’s face after she pictured Thomas’ face when she was kissing Liam. As I said in another comment, that is not the face of someone enjoying a pleasurable fantasy. That’s the look of someone thinking….”What the hell??!!!!” That’s not what dreams are made of. Nightmares…perhaps!! Lol
DeleteMilla, we knew this day would come. I really don’t want Ridge and Brooke back together. But it’s bound to happen. I used to root for them….destiny and all. Lol
DeleteBut he is now and will always be waffle man to me after what he pulled. And I really don’t like the new scruffy look. I just think he looks old and unkempt.
Oh Lynn you know who I want Brooke with and it's not Ridge 🙁 he is a waffler still. But I also don't want her alone, it's quite boring her only be shown worrying about Hope and giggling with Taylor.
DeletePlus like you say it's bound to happen Brooke and Ridge were always and will be the couple.
Oh lynn it will not be finn 😂😂
DeleteI think the writers want to switch the couples now
Its been a long time and no couple stayed together that long
So for hope its not gonna be thomas
I guess it’s gonna be finn
And that wishes of hope and Liam’s being apart will backfire i guess 😂😂
And as ridge said if it wasn’t for Thomas they would be still together
Not as some were implying that their marriage was already ending just to defend thomas dirty tricks
I think brook will never break the promise
But it will be of course harder for her than Taylor
Brook has been with ridge for so long now while Taylor was not even in the country
Mmysh, so true! We definitely knew the reason Ridge and Brooke broke up was 100% Thomas’ doing! Ridge knows too, that’s why he’s trying to get back into Brooke’s bed. He knows he screwed up big time, just like you said!
DeleteI didn’t see terror of Thomas. More she was shocked she was kissing her husband and thinking of another man. That’s never a good sign. Actually I’m thinking that scene with the sofa will end Monday with her fantasies that it’s Thomas with her not Liam.
DeleteShe was shown thinking on Thomas, about nearly kissing him. She clearly planned the evening with Liam to one, get him back on side with her working with Thomas. Two, to fight her growing attraction to Thomas.
I don’t bother with spoilers since they are fan fictions 99% of the time. However at this point in time writers are showing us Hope having feelings for Thomas and wrestling with those.
There is not reason Hope can’t have a bad girl side. I can’t see the point of that very specific conversation between Hope and Brooke if not setting up a situation where Hope will fall for the bad lad as well.
I think their romantic evening is going to derail at some point.
BBFAN, I disagree on all counts. I think Hope set up that special dinner for her and Liam because she doesn’t like to fight with her husband and she is feeling bad for her part in it. She knows dang well that Liam has every right to be extremely skeptical of Thomas’ supposed changed behavior. And she knows she let Liam down when she changed her mind about allowing Thomas to come back to the line, etc, etc. Hope doesn’t like being at odds with the man she adores (Liam), so she decided to plan a special romantic dinner to bring them back together.
DeleteAs I stated in an earlier comment, nothing was preventing her from staying at the office and working with Thomas until late in the evening. But instead Hope chose to go home and extend an olive branch to the one she loves, Liam.
Actually Hope planned to spend a family evening with Brooke, Ridge and her family. Her fantasies about Thomas spooked her and she made a sudden decision to send the bairns on sleep away with their wee mates. She didn’t even change from her work clothes or anything. Brooke was surprised at the change of plans. Of course Hope didn’t say she was having the evening with Liam in an effort to get Thomas out of her thoughts!!!
DeleteMy theory about her fight with her husband and wanting to make things right with Liam is just as plausible. And actually my theory is even more likely because those were her actual words to Liam!! 😂😂😂. She doesn’t want to fight!! So she’s trying to set things right!! But hey, you think what you want, and I’ll think what I want. And just like I told Elle, we will see how this all plays out.
DeleteI agree she said that but I think that the fact that the idea for the romantic evening suddenly happens immediately after she’s fantasising about Thomas is very telling. It’s not like she came home from work and set it up straight away. We shall see.
DeleteI don’t think Hope was wrong to call Liam out on his hypocrisy at the office. He wants to be forgiven for all the times he hurt her, cheated etc but is unwilling to consider forgiveness for Thomas. Never mind he’d still be rotting in prison if Thomas hadn’t come forward! Thomas was held hostage because he wanted to tell the truth and set Liam free. Apparently that counts for nothing!
Deletebeen watching this show for 25 years and im done with bridge and tridge, time to move on! Shauna would be a refreshing fit for ridge and maybe deacon with brooke and bill with taylor? It may be an unpopular opinion but im rooting for brooke and taylor! what happened to jackie and nick marone..didnt he have a baby with felicia?
ReplyDeleteAh it turned out that Felicia's baby was from Dante, not Nick. But Nick did have a child with, well, Taylor (legal mom) and Brooke (egg donor) 😅
DeleteBut it's a "We don't talk about Jack" situation there...
Oh Brooke dressed to kill as usual on night conquests
ReplyDeleteSoul dont care about values.There are no good or bad just experiences.And they have soul contract for sure.If it would be real fife not soap.And Thomas is like indigo type 3,with 2 avatar inbodied.When he is on dark path then Seraphim is taking lead.Like reptiles.
ReplyDeleteSquirrel Covers, my sentiments exactly! I want whatever she’s smokin! 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI think she's talking about Thomas and Hope and the bond they share.
DeleteElle, did you put on your decoder ring to figure that out? Lol
DeleteLynn, no. 😂🤣 But Helen mentioned values and we've been talking for days about Hope's values. She also mentioned good and bad, which we've also been talking about - Hope being a good person and the bad things Thomas has done in the past. She then said "they" have a soul contract, so I figured she is referring to what is happening with Thomas and Hope. It also helped that she mentioned Thomas in her next sentence. 🤭
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DeleteThat's just my interpretation. I could be completely wrong. 😂 😂 😂
DeleteElle 😂 I'm sure you would find Hope and Thomas bond everywhere you look at this point.
DeleteOnly if it is directly related to them, M. As I said before, Helen mentioned Thomas' name in her comment.
DeleteTrue Elle I missed that. I guess it was the "like reptiles" for me 😅
DeleteMilla, 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
DeleteBrooke want to be Ridge that is why she lied to Taylor that her other family will be at the dinner. Also Hope has feelings for Thomas that is why she Fantasizing about the almost kiss and seeing Thomas face while looking at Liam!!!
ReplyDeleteLynn Thomas was a teenager when Brooke slept with both of her daughters Men. Hope was born with the affair she had with Deacon, her daughter, Bridget husband. Also slept with Hope boyfriend, Oliver at her Graduation party. Not to mentioned affair with his grandmother, Stephanie husband, Eric. Also she tried to have sex with Thomas at the photo shoot on the Island, and threatened to fire him if he told anyone. Brooke MADINESS goes on and on over the years. Lynn you have the Audacity to BLAME Thomas for Ridge and Brooke not being together after having a woman being part of his life for years that caused so much pain and suffering to people she said she loved and people he loved including his Mother, Taylor!!!
ReplyDeleteAmen, Barbara!!!
DeleteOh Barbra all this including the lies
DeleteDose not match a psycho murderers u adore and support and defend and LOVE
Hypocrisy 🤮🤮🤮
Barbara, what is with you FF’s blatantly lying about what happened? You literally saw Hope come in and cancel for dinner because she wanted to have a special ROMANTIC evening with her husband, Liam!! Brooke didn’t try to get Ridge alone…that’s ‘A’. And ‘B’…Hope obviously wants to patch things up with her husband, or she wouldn’t have come home. She would have stayed late at work to be with Thomas! Stop making stuff up to make a point!
DeleteBarbara, even the characters on the show BLAMED THOMAS for breaking up Brooke’s marriage to Ridge!! So much so in fact, that he lost his position at FC, and for a while there both Steffy and Ridge wanted nothing to do with Thomas! And that was his own family!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteYou don’t have to take my word for it. Just open your eyes and ears when you watch the show!!! Lol.
And oh by the way, Barbara…no one FORCED Ridge to CHOOSE Brooke! If you want to cast blame somewhere, then cast it at Ridge. Ridge is a big boy who makes his own choices in life. Brooke didn’t force Ridge to make a life with her, it’s simply what Ridge CHOSE to do!!
DeleteYes, Barbara…I have the AUDACITY to blame, Thomas!! You bet I do!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteLynn what has this got to do with if your FF's or a LF's . How is Barbara blatantly lying with what happened? Because you don't agree with her? Have you ever thought maybe Hope's conscious is playing a roll here? She's maybe trying hard to convince Liam with a romantic night and she has only feelings for him and not Thomas, and trying to convince herself?
DeleteJust a thought.
Barbara, just for fun, I went online to get the TRUTH about what happened on the deserted island when you said Brooke tried to sleep with Thomas. Well here’s what the Soap reviews team said occurred. And newsflash - it’s not like you described it at all! 😂😂
DeleteThese days Thomas and Brooke might be on opposite sides of the fence, but a few years back they were stranded on a deserted island and closer than ever – thanks to some psychedelic berries. Thomas was trying to make his way in the fashion industry with a new Forrester collection. After some advice from Whip Jones, Thomas kissed Brooke in front of the press during a fashion show, which helped launch his new line Taboo.
Thomas continued to be drawn to Brooke and even kissed her while she slept during a plane ride to Paris. Later, on their way to promote Thomas’ new line overseas their plane crashed, and Brooke and Thomas found themselves stranded and fighting for their lives on a deserted island. Starving, they both ingested psychedelic berries and hallucinated various sexual encounters. When they were rescued, neither was sure if they’d had sex while on the island.
In true Stephanie Forrester fashion she convinced Thomas to claim he’d slept with Brooke. His lie caused his father Ridge to walk out on Brooke – and back into Taylor’s arms, Dayzee to leave Thomas and the end of Taboo.
And as I have said. I have not been watching this soap that long but it sounds to me Brooke and Ridge have been on and off for many yrs...we're all of the break ups because of Thomas?
DeleteNo D, this isn’t because I don’t AGREE with Barbara, it’s because she lied. She said Brooke lied to Taylor that other family members would be at the dinner. Brooke did NO SUCH THING!!! Hope came to the house and cancelled at the last minute so she could have alone time with Liam. Brooke didn’t lie to anyone about anything. That’s NOT OPINION! THAT’S FACT!!!
DeleteStick to the facts of you are gonna call people out for bad behavior.
D, I know you were having fun at my expense by being snarky about the “power of suggestion” comment I made. But I took no offense to it, because I called it just like it was with Hope and her fleeting thoughts about Thomas. If Hope and Thomas start hooking up or have an affair like some of the FF’s have suggested, then I will fully admit I was wrong. Right now it’s pure speculation. But you guys are saying it like it’s fact. In all the time I’ve watched the show, I’ve never seen Hope cheat. I think Hope is solid through and through. She doesn’t have cheating blood in her like Steffy does!! Lol
DeleteSorry I thought you were referring to her message at 6.20pm was all a lie. Its late and trying to keep up with the comments on a phone, by the time I write a comment there are 5 more I haven't seen. 😴
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DeleteYou too, but I don't agree with fleeting thoughts about Thomas. I think there is more to it. . My opinion. We will see and I also will admit I was wrong.
DeleteLynn, the same can be said about you. You spin the Hope/Liam romantic night being all about Hope and Liam trying to work out their earlier disagreement like it's a fact. You also spin Hope kissing Liam but seeing Thomas like Hope was horrified/disgusted as if it's a fact. However, Hope had been fantasizing about kissing Thomas and wondered what was wrong with her, which led to her rushing home to plan a romantic night for Liam where she again started fantasizing about kissing Thomas while she was kissing her husband. And yes, she was horrified but not in a disgusted way. She was horrified because, try as she might, she couldn't get Thomas out of her head. Even after he called her phone and Liam thanked and hugged her for not taking the call, she looked down at her phone (without any horror or disgust) while she was in her husband's arms. Yet, you refuse to acknowledge even the possibility that Hope is developing feelings, instead stating as fact that she is not.
DeleteAnd I'm surprised that you talk about "even the characters on the show BLAMED THOMAS for breaking up Brooke’s marriage to Ridge!!" when the very same characters (Liam, Brooke and Steffy) all made mention of Hope possibly having feelings for Thomas (Brooke was more "you can't have feelings for him because he's a bad boy and you don't like bad boys.") Maybe you also need to open your eyes and ears when you watch the show.
DeleteElle 👍👍that's all I can say right now.
DeleteMmysh, don't flatter yourself with me memorizing your comments to me. It's the only one I ever see.
Going to watch the beginning of SNL. Night 🌙 ladies.
Elle. Brooke and Liam did no such thing. Brooke commended Hope for being nothing like her (being attracted to bad boys like Brooke has been throughout her life.) I already covered this at length is a prior comment. And Liam never told Hope that he has concerns she is attracted to Thomas! He is simply upset that Hope keeps finding it in her to keep forgiving Thomas after all the horrible things Thomas has done to their family! Please point out the specific words / scenes when either Brooke or Liam were remotely concerned that Hope had romantic feelings for Thomas! You are gonna be extremely hard pressed to find those scenes, Elle. Lol!! My eyes and ears are working just fine. But I’ll be waiting for the details from you. 😬😬😁
DeleteBut still memories it 😂😂
DeleteHave a good night and enjoy your show
Have a good night, D.
DeleteWell said Elle that’s what Ive been trying to say to Lynn obviously she can’t see it like we do so maybe lynn u might have to watch it again
DeleteElle, absolutely no such thing occurred. Are you having dreams about the show when you sleep at night, then think your dreams are real when you wake up the next morning?? Lol.
DeleteBrooke made no mention of Hope having feelings for Thomas. No mention whatsoever! She simply was giving her daughter praise and told Hope how much she admired the person Hope had become, because Brooke was always attracted to bad boys. Zero mention of Thomas was mentioned by Brooke. Brooke has never thought that Hope has any desire or feelings for Thomas. She has only been concerned about Hope’s naivety when it comes to Thomas. Nothing more. Moreover, Liam has never thought Hope has a thing for Thomas. But just like Brooke, Liam worries about Hope’s safety around Thomas. Literally Hope was on top of Thomas when Liam walked in on them, and Liam still blamed Thomas for what he saw! He has zero concern for Hope having sexual feelings toward Thomas! And I’m sure if he did, he would call Hope out on that instantly! Not to mention being totally disgusted by the idea of his wife being attracted to someone who has hurt their family repeatedly!
Unknown, I’m very comfortable with my position on all this and don’t need to watch anything again.
Delete@Lynn During mannequin-gate, Liam was talking to Steffy about what he saw (Hope kissing Thomas) and he was trying to understand why Hope kept bringing Thomas back into her life. He alluded to Hope possibly having feelings for Thomas. Fast forward to their argument this week, he blatantly asked Hope for an answer as to why she keeps letting Thomas back into her life. Hope deflected and started talking about the line and that she didn't have a choice because Steffy was going to cut the line. Liam didn't buy it and told her that Steffy is smart and knows that they could have found another designer if they had given it some more time (which is something I also said regarding Hope deciding to bring Thomas back). Liam was trying to find out the real reason Hope keeps forgiving Thomas and taking him back.
DeleteBrooke was a little more subtle and not as direct as Liam. She asked Hope about how things were going with Thomas and Hope said that he had changed and it was good having him back on the line and that things were good between them, that they worked well together. Brooke then started the conversation about bad boys subtly suggesting to Hope that Thomas is a bad boy compared to Liam who Brooke was happy that Hope had a family with. Things don't have to be spelt out all the time. There is a lot that can be read between the lines. I'm sure you know that Lynn. I'm guessing that's why you talked about the power of suggestion. Maybe because you too knew that Brooke was referring to Thomas when she spoke about Hope not liking bad boys.
Lynn, I just went back and looked at Wednesday's show again and Brooke was not at all subtle about Hope possibly being drawn to Thomas. She flat out told Hope "Thomas is a bad boy and you don't like bad boys."
DeleteBrava Elle, you are spot on. Hope is fighting her attraction to Thomas. She’s trying to do the right thing and initiating a romantic evening with Liam to get her mind back in her marriage. Clearly it wasn’t working.
DeleteI will be happy to watch that scene again. What day was the discussion with Brooke and Hope about bad boys? I maintain Brooke was commending Hope for the life she has chosen and saying that Hope is nothing like Brooke in that regard. Her exact words as I recall were that she “admires Hope!” I remember zero reference to Thomas in that discussion. So since you ladies have evidently rewatched it, please tell me the date of the episode and I’ll be happy to revisit.
DeleteI don’t think Brooke has one ounce of concern that Hope has any romantic feelings for Thomas. Brooke’s only concern is that Thomas will revert back to his old ways and start obsessing about Hope again. Because as Brooke has stated time and time again, that’s what Thomas ALWAYS does!!
I just saw that Elle mentioned Wednesday’s episode in her comment above. So I rewatched the scene with Brooke and Hope. I completely stand by what I said. There is zero mention of Thomas in that discussion, nor is Brooke alluding to anything like that. She started the conversation in reference to Ridge and her new found friendship with Taylor. Then Brooke went on to say Deacon, Bill, etc etc. The list of bad choices in men that Brooke has made in her past. Brooke was simply giving Hope a genuine compliment and nothing more. If Brooke had even an ounce of concern that Hope had feelings for Thomas, Brooke definitely would not have minced words. Brooke does NOT mince words. We all know that to be true!
DeleteAnd Elle, I hope you also rewatched the interaction at lunch between Wyatt and Liam when Liam told Wyatt…”I absolutely trust Hope!!! It’s Thomas I don’t trust!!” So there goes your theory about Liam having concerns about Hope’s feelings for Thomas as well. I see two big bloopers on your theories! Lol
No lynn Liam’s words means nothing he doesn’t mean them
DeleteBut thomas words are since he said so 😂😂😂
Mmysh, 😂😂😂😂
DeleteLynn, at this point I am convinced that you are in such denial that you are now blocking out any scenes that make reference to Thomas. While Brooke and Hope were having the discussion about bad boy Thomas, he walked into the office. Hope explained that they had a fitting so Brooke excused herself and was leaving the office when Thomas told her that she was welcomed to stay and look on and give her thoughts. Brooke said that she was going to look for Ridge and she left. But I guess you probably blocked out those scenes as well since Thomas was in them.
DeleteElle, I watched even more of Wednesday’s episode and have even more comments about that show.
Delete1st. It was Wyatt who brought up Thomas’ name at lunch. It was not Liam! You ladies love to go on and on about how Liam is OBSESSING over Thomas, but it wasn’t even Liam who brought up Thomas’ name!! It was literally Wyatt!! 🤣🤣🤣
2. I know you have already conceded on this point, but Thomas was kind enough to remind the audience that it was “Steffy’s decision to bring Thomas back to FC.” It was not a board decision.
3. Thomas tells Ridge how he can see how everyone would be skeptical. Thomas says to Ridge…”I screw up, then apologize, then screw up and apologize, then go for a little while without messing up, then mess up again. And apologize again.” Well at least Thomas realizes why literally NO ONE should believe him when he says he changed!!!
4. I watched more of the episode this time to try to find the specific reference to Thomas that you said you heard Brooke make. And here’s the part you failed to mention when Brooke started her comment to Hope….
Brooke said, “I’m not worried about you honey, I’m worried about Thomas. Thomas is a bad boy and you don’t like bad boys.” As I said in my comment above, if Brooke had any concerns about Hope, Brooke would confront those concerns directly. Brooke is simply reminding Hope in that scene that if Thomas crosses any lines, Hope must make good on her word to boot him to the curb. No allowances for bad behavior by Thomas. No ‘looking the other way’ as Hope has a tendency to do. Brooke is definitely not trying to accuse Hope of having feelings for Thomas. Not subtly or otherwise.
Brooke is Hope's mother and as her mother, she will have a pretty good idea of what her daughter may or may not be feeling. She gave Hope the talk about Thomas being a bad boy because she sensed that Hope may be finding him attractive. Brooke senses this because of the way Hope talks about Thomas and from the way she used to defend Thomas last year. This is also why, when Hope came over in yesterday's show and started going off on her mom, Brooke was able to immediately recognize that Hope's behaviour had to do with her feelings for Thomas.
DeleteWe see it two different ways, so I will just agree to disagree.
I had to laugh about how Hope is angelic. You do know that sleeping with another woman’s husband is a form of cheating right???? She has loved with and slept with Liam how many times while he was married to Steffens. She had no qualms about it either. She conceived Beth while Liam was married to Steffy. So Hope isn’t totally different than Brooke!!
DeleteI know LFs and Hope all feel she was entitled to do so because she had Liam first blah blah. It doesn’t change the fact she did in fact sleep with a married man over and over again. But oh Steffy gets called every nasty name there is. Liam gets a free pass. 🤮
No one is a saint here!
Lives with not loved with, bloody auto spell
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DeleteElle, your comment above is particularly comical to me.
DeleteSo let me get this straight…according to you (up until now) you have always taken all the characters at their word. Or let me rephrase that, you have always taken the Forresters at their word. I know this to be true because you and I have discussed it at great length. Here’s one example….When Thomas said “Someone else put the Hope mannequin behind the screen”….you believed him. Because per you “He said he didn’t put it there, so he didn’t.” Not to mention all the times you have believed Thomas when he has said he’s changed. Why…because Thomas said so. 😂😂😂 Howver, Thomas has proven time and time again to be the biggest liar on this show (well maybe Sheila has him beat - but BARELY!!!) So all your goings on and on about trusting lying Thomas because he “said so” is beyond ridiculous. But Brooke says to Hope on last Wednesday’s episode “I trust you honey, it’s Thomas I don’t trust!” And now ALL OF A SUDDEN we are no longer supposed to trust the words that come out of people’s mouths because it’s not your precious Thomas doing the talking??!!! I am on the floor laughing at your justification.for not believing Brooke’s words - because “you know better”, right Elle???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
I don't Condone Thomas for Reacting to Brooke MADINESS that she done over the years to lie, deceive, manipulate, cheat so many people, but I feel his pain!!!!
ReplyDeleteWow Barbara. I haven't been watching this soap that long...but you just explain alot, and now I feel even more pain for Thomas. 🥺 Thanks
DeleteYou still support the murderers in show 😂😂😂😂
Delete😆 🤣 😂 😆
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DeleteMmysh so that means you support sluts in the show. 😂😆😂
Delete😂😂😂😂😂 just like you support the sluts too
DeleteThats goes for you too you know
But still sluts better that murderers and psychopaths
And its a soap so sleeping around is the backbone for the show
But not for hope at least the when you don’t like 😂😂
And btw saying my comment you memorize was the only one but yet there are a comment talking about my comment about the writers thing
So be careful no to loss your credibility
Its embarrassing 😂😂😂😂
Ladies I think we all know by now Barbara has her own reality (and words...#MADINESS) there's 0 point of engaging. She will continue posting the same.
DeleteExactly milla im curious what show she is watching
DeleteAnd we always proves her lies and still she has no shame to postcit again 😂😂😂
Dear fellow soap fans, can we please show some grace toward others? Barbara is a lovely senior lady and we’ve no idea of the trials and tribulations of her life or whether English is her native language. Her occasional posts brighten the blogs with her originality. Shouldn’t we appreciate that she has the ability to add her views? They don’t have to be perfect and calling her a liar, etc., is hurtful. She was bullied recently on another of Bob’s sites and she expressed how hurt she was. Always try to take the high road. Happy Easter.
DeleteOf course she can post, my point was that the others don't have to waste time and energy trying to prove her wrong.
DeletePeople who tell lies are liars
DeleteSo when some come post events didn’t happened to bash a character while defend a psycho murderer
People will call her out
Unknown its funny such lecture coming from you 😂😂😂
DeleteBut anyway you are ok with lies but we don’t
Im sure if she was telling these lies about steffy or Thomas we will not be blessed with such lecture
I agree, Mmysh. Opinion is one thing, but lies are lies. If you are gonna lie, be prepared to be called a liar. I don’t care how old she is. Age just means she should really know better!
DeleteMilla, I have had to bite my tongue 100 times on that word “MADINESS”. 😂😂😂😂
DeleteSo I do try to refrain from blasting her most of the time. Lol
Lynn I wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't for the caps (always!), it looks like a trademark 😅
DeleteMilla and lynn i only hear it “MADNESS “
DeleteIn phoebe’s voice in friends 😂😂😂
Omg now I'm hearing it too 😂😂
DeleteYears on and it's still the same old posters.
ReplyDeleteComing from "oldfan" that actually sounds complimentary 😂
DeleteExactly milla 😂😂😂😂
DeleteMilla, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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