The Bold and the Beautiful 7-6-23 Full episode B&B 6th July 2023
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Yes Hope did exactly what Liam did when he ran to Steffy Hope ran to Thomas....wow Hope I knew you always wanted Thomas you just thought Liam was good for your hftf brand but Liam is a disgrace of a man.... Go for it Hope with Thomas....Brooke will see herself again in her Daughters Mirror... 😂
ReplyDeleteRidge and Brooke belong together, always have, always will
Delete"Steff, it's none of your business" - words that should be on a pillow 😂 in this case she is involved, Liam involved her, but in general always good to be reminded that she doesn't have to stick her nose in everything.
ReplyDeleteBtw why is Steffy only remembering the first kiss 😅 the second one was better.
I hate that Liam just wants a divorce without considering his daughter and how it will affect her. How selfish can you be?
Wow Hope made a real leap to the "you want her back now?". But the "I think about her now" was just disgusting and ugly. Wondering if he really will go after her now and try to upset *her* family? I can't believe in this age and state of his family he is like this...
Thomas looks adorable 🥰 I hope he'll do the right thing and at least wait a decent amount of time before getting involved with Hope.
Liam did so think about Steffy before, unless he goes around kissing just anyone in arm's reach. Brooke grabbed that shirt off the rack and didn't realize in the flounce they hadn't finished sewing it. Or maybe thought no one would notice. Steffy looked great with no pads and perfect figure after "giving birth" cough cough. Poor surrogate huffing and puffing at the gym. Hope forget Liam. Hope should have a wonderful time designing with Thomas. Liam thinks it's ok when He kisses Steffy, the bane of Hope's existence, but hope can't kiss Thomas the bane of mine. I'm Mr wonderful and must spread myself to all the people,
DeleteWhat are you on about JMW is very pregnant and had all her own babies!!! She looked amazing today!
DeleteLiam wants Steffy because Hope went for the one Liam said 'No' about. . Hope shouldn't worry, she will get Liam back on the next husband swap, as soon as Steffy remembers how boring Liam is. . After Finn is out of the picture, (finding out Steffy didn't admit to kissing Liam) she'll be back with her tried and true back-up, loaner-out husband. She probably just wants another wedding.
DeleteCheck out her insta, her pregnant belly is on show from all her pregnancies!! She’s not pretending to be pregnant! That’s so messed up!
DeleteSomething will definitely happen with Steffy and Finn because Jacqueline will be out on maternity leave soon. Unless it coincides with the month long filming hiatus that B and B takes every year. Which is right not, but they do rapid fire filming so the viewers never notice.
Delete@ncac Maybe that explains the way Steffy looked today. She did not look pregnant at all! Maybe the scenes were shot before she started actually showing.
DeleteMilla, I will start by saying that I am pleased with Hope going to Thomas today. However, I will also say that I was quite surprised with her behavior.
DeleteHope ran to find comfort about her marriage ending in the arms of the very man who is the cause of her marriage ending. Wow Hope! Didn't see that one coming.
Elle I watched it again, they used camera angles, a blanket and a very clever outfit to disguise the bump today. If you watch close, when she’s using her hands talking to Thomas later on, you can see the camera trick doesn’t totally disguise that her front is further out than normal. They actually did a really good job of hiding wee bumpy today but definitely still there. I think she looks amazing! Pregnancy is so beautiful on Jacqueline!
DeleteI actually paused it a few times and you can get just hint. The drape and cut of the top and skirt combo really trick the eye.
DeleteMilla, she’s remembering the kiss because she feels bad about it. She’s torn between protecting Liam and needing to tell Finn. Steffy isn’t fondly remembering it, she’s troubled about it. Especially after Liam tried on a second time. She loves her life with Finn and is worrying after what Finn said how Liam kissing her could negatively impact her marriage and her, Finn and Liam coparenting Kelly. Finn would feel betrayed by Liam and rightfully so. Steffy would be in a bad position as Kelly’s mum and Finn’s wife between the two not getting on. Remember Liam tried to get rid of Finn when they first started their relationship!! Like he had a right.
DeleteMilla I agree with you on one thing. Thomas is adorable and should wait and give it time before getting involved with Hope. You can see this is the last thing he wanted to happen. Steffy has every right to stick her nose into all this because Liam has involved her and I don't think she wants to be involved. She feels for Liam but not in the way he might hope. And Hope should have considered her daughter and the affect it will have on her and the family before she did what she did. So who is being selfish?
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DeleteElle for sure that is a prelude of something starting between Hope and Thomas. I still don't believe it will become a real thing (eg marriage), because of all the damage through the years. But a relationship is developing between them (as you said before, I just didn't agree it has always been one), something more than co-parents and colleagues. So who knows! I'm open to surprises.
Isn't it funny that everything Brooke did is going back to her. I loved it when she was agreeing with Taylor and I enjoyed seeing her. Now it's the old Brooke like the one we've been seeing for 30 + years.
ReplyDeleteI hope Taylor leaves to step out of this comedy and that the authors find new actors. It's disgusting to see how each one exchanges each other.
Now Liam wants Steffy again??
Tina brava 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteTina, it's called karma. Karma for all the marriages/relationships Brooke destroyed. Now her daughter's marriage is the one falling apart.
Delete@Elle And Brooke should put her head under the sand like ostriches do.
DeleteTona 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just got a visual there 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteSorry love, bloody autocorrect..I typed Tina..
DeleteTina 🤣🤣🤣 that's hilarious.
DeleteThat's why I said it for us to laugh!
DeleteWow Liam lied to Hope’s face!
ReplyDeleteBrooke, you set a stellar example, and always rationalised them to her daughter. So shocking.
Liam didn’t care about how walking out on Kelly and Steffy would affect his daughter why should he start now with Beth?
I do think he’s overreacting, but his hate for Thomas won’t let him get over it
Hope ran to Thomas! Shocker!
Well said BBfan, but some people believe that Liam has a true love and others are second choice. The point is Lame has one true love himself, is not that good as they want us to believe. Is just as bad as Ridge.
DeleteBBFan, I was floored by Liam today! He's really serious about keeping the secret this time around. 😅
DeleteAgreed about Kelly. Liam did not care that he was walking out on Kelly. He also hasn't shown much attention to her since he's been married to Hope. It's no shocker that he doesn't care about Beth.
Bbfan, just look at today!! When Brooke was trying to “justify” why Hope kissed Thomas!! And wow, didn’t Ridge jump right on her, “that’s no excuse”, and Brooke “No I know, I am just trying to “fiqure out” why she did it”?? Um, maybe because she wanted to?? Or has feelings for him? Or is just “following her heart” 🤣🤣🤣 imagine if she asked Ridge the same question she asked Hope, “if Thomas did this and coerced her” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteYes..I heard Ridge say "it's some excuse". Then Brooke slipped up and said "yes she fell for the wrong man" something along those lines. Brooke's real feelings about Thomas? Ridge will now what she has been hiding.. Destiny #10 might be next.
Delete@Miah so agree with your comment.
DeleteD, I think Ridge is really not impressed with what Hope did, and Brooke has picked up on that... When Steffy told him and Taylor about her suspicions that Hope had feelings for Thomas, they all commented their concerns about how that could affect Thomas and the progress he has made in dealing with his feelings for her if she were to act on those feelings.. Brooke didn’t know that Ridge already knew that Steffy had told him.. She only figured that out just after they got back from Rome when Taylor went to see her about her reunion in Rome.. When they were discussing who broke the pact first, and Taylor mentioned that Brooke was being dishonest about how she really felt about Thomas, but added in “after she realised Hope had feelings for Thomas” this time, Brooke then became aware that Ridge and Taylor knew about her own suspicions.. All the other times Taylor confronted Brooke about her true feelings about Thomas and lying about it, was because of the things Hope said, but she never said that it was because Brooke realised Hope had feelings for Thomas.. So I think that this is why Brooke has been careful what she says and that’s why she admitted today to Ridge she had her own suspicions about Hopes feelings for Thomas.. Had of Taylor not brought that up this time round, Brooke would still think Ridge didn’t know she knew about Hopes feelings.. So she admitted it today.. Prior to that Taylor only said she lied about her own feelings towards Thomas and gave the impression it was because of the horrible things Hope said.. Taylor never mentioned prior that she knew Brooke was aware of Hopes true feelings, till that conversation that Taylor added in those details.. That’s why Brooke panicked and jumped when Ridge firmly said that’s no excuse.. She knew Ridge wasn’t happy that Hope acted on her feelings, and that’s when she went on to admit she has had suspicions about Hopes true feelings.. So she is well aware if she says anything against Thomas, it would cause major issues between them.. Taylor did Brooke a favour really!!
DeleteBrooke didn’t even know that Steffy had her own suspicions, never mind think that she told Ridge and Taylor.. Brooke has been under the impression she is the only one who picked up on it, till Taylor said it in that conversation after Rome.. When Taylor said it, Brookes reaction was of surprise and she all she could say was “give me a break Taylor”.. It was only then Brooke realised others knew about Hopes feelings, hence why she tried to act naive and say “I am just trying to figure out why Hope would do that”, but she already knew why, and obviously she could see that through Ridges actions, he 1. Wasn’t happy about it, and 2. He knows about Hopes feelings.. So she probably thought I better just admit it..
DeleteExactly Colly. That's why I have been saying when Ridge hears her true feelings about Thomas and the things she said about him, their destiny #9 won't last.
DeleteColly, I think that Brooke knew about Steffy's suspicions. It was after a confrontation between Steffy and Hope that Hope called Brooke and told her about Steffy's accusations. This is when Hope finally admitted to her that she found Thomas desirable and that she was only human.
DeleteYes, sorry, my bad.. I forgot about that.. But even still, wether Brooke thought Ridge knew or not, the way she first tried justify why Hope did what she did, then the way Ridge snapped back “that’s no excuse”, then she was all no no I know I am just trying to fiqure it out, yet she knew exactly why.. Then she goes on to admit she knew Hope had feelings, like an admission.. She sensed Ridge is NOT happy with Hopes actions.. I feel that she didn’t know that Ridge knew that she knew if that makes sense 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteAnd when Brooks confronted Taylor, she tried to tell Taylor that Hope does not have feelings for Thomas and that Steffy was just trying to cause problems for Hope and her marriage.. She lied to Taylor, to cover for Hope.. She denied that Hope had feelings, knowing full well that she did..
DeleteColly, I understand.
DeleteIn Brooke's defense (which I don't often so), I think it's that she's not quite willing to admit (even to herself) that Hope has feelings for Thomas. Admitting that will mean admitting that Hope's marriage with Liam is over. Brooke had a front row seat to all of Liam's complaints about Thomas last year. She knows that Liam will not forgive Hope for this one.
Yes Ell, I would agree with that.. But, still, she lied and made demands to Taylor and accused steffy of manipulating trying to cause problems for Hopes marriage, still made the comment about Thomas doing it and coercing her, despite being told outright he didn’t, and knowing full well why she did it, then tried to justify it to Ridge, till that blew up in her face and realising Ridge did know about Hopes feelings, before FINALLY admitting it..
DeleteHope is going to play on Thomas’s love for her and take “comfort” from him. Watch she will sleep with Thomas, Liam will change his mind, then it will really be too late for them.
ReplyDeleteBb, if she does that, I won’t be happy with her.. She has already toyed with him and his feelings enough.. She is well aware how deep his feelings run for her.. She cried all those times to Steffy, when she was lying to her, “Steffy I am well aware of it” and “ I wouldn’t do anything to jeopardise Thomas’s progress”.. And what did she do?? Already, then kicked him in the gut, with not even a discussion!! If she does that, then she well and truly IS her mothers daughter, “me me me” and who cares about anyone else and how it would affect them, as long as I am happy!! Then I would say her and Liam deserve each other, just like Brooks and Ridge!!
DeleteNot this episode.. but I think LF's are sometimes too mean
ReplyDeleteYou are not wrong, Patologi. They can be self-righteous and mean-spirited. Just skip over them.
DeletePatologi - seems it is YOU who is trying to stir up trouble by even posting this. What’s your point?
DeleteMy bad english, I can't explain how I feel. But saying all the time that FF"s are wrong and Steffy and Taylor are like idiots 😅 I like Hope but now I like also Thomas. Before I hated him. But I'm sure the changes are not forever.. I don't like The competition between LF and FF. I think that both families have something good and something bad
DeleteWell Patologi, it definitely goes both ways. If you haven’t seen the FF’s be rude, then you haven’t been paying attention. You called me out by name weeks ago, and I chose to ignore it. And by the way, I had said nothing to you. So your comment was not called for. So this time I wasn’t about to ignore it.
DeleteAs much as you may dislike the FF reference or the LF reference, they are simply abbreviations to show who our favorites are. More often than not, there are fans that stick with the Logans and theare are fans that stick with the Forresters. It’s not a derogatory thing to say it, it’s just fact. Read the comments. Generally people fall into one or the other category.
Oh and Patologi, have you somehow missed all the nasty comments about Brooke? Or did you just choose to ignore those?
DeleteLynn that was a rude reply. Patologi has every right to make a comment. As she said her English is not good and she didn't say FF or LF is a derogatory thing to say. Read her last 2 sentences again.
DeletePatologi your English is not that bad. Keep reading and commenting. It's good practice.🙂
DeleteNo D, it wasn’t. She started it by saying she thinks the LF’s are mean. And as I stated she has called me out by name before. Stay out of this. Here we go again, you butting in trying to ‘defend’ someone who starts something. And something that has zero to do with you!
DeleteHere are the first two comments, D. Guess you missed what started this whole thing cuz you were too busy scolding me! 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣😂
DeletePatologiJuly 6, 2023 at 2:08 PM
Not this episode.. but I think LF's are sometimes too mean
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UnknownJuly 6, 2023 at 5:33 PM
You are not wrong, Patologi. They can be self-righteous and mean-spirited. Just skip over them.
Don't flatter yourself, unless you're the only LF on the board. It was a general comment on the blog. It wasn't a reply to one of your comments. Unknown replied with their opinion. They are entitled to say what they want.
DeleteD - no need to flatter myself, I get plenty of that!
DeleteAs far as Patologi is concerned, it seems you have some comprehension issues. I clearly stated she called me out by NAME the other day. So get off your high horse and go be a pest someplace else! And no, we aren’t ENTITLED to randomly bash others. We stick to the show and the characters on the show! You are such a damn hypocrite! It was you not too long ago complaining about bullying! Yet you are fine - well of course you are - if people disparage the LF’s for absolutely zero reason! Don’t flatter yourself - no one was talking to you. But you butt in your big nose anyway!
Lynn, with all due respect, you are correct, we shouldn’t bash each other, however you need to give that same advice to some of the Lfans, one in particular who constantly calls people names and says things like FFans r pathetic, dicusting, sick, etc etc etc.. Nothing is said to those Lfans by any of your own, it’s just agreements or claps.. it’s rare a ffan will make comments like that to Lfans, characters yes, but not other posters, so please pass your advice on to those from your group who constantly say things like that..
DeleteColly, I believe everyone is responsible for their own actions / words on the blog. When I 👏🏻👏🏻 on someone’s comment, it is because of the content of facts, not because someone is disparaging someone else. I don’t defend the nastiness. If someone starts something (like on this thread as an example) where someone out of the blue says the LF’s are mean, mean-spirited, self-righteous, then yes, I’m gonna fire back. I’m perfectly capable of defending myself and generally don’t ‘rally the troops’ around me. But what I had a huge issue with on this comment is that D tells me “I’m rude” instead of addressing what the FF’s said about the LF’s. She clearly missed what started the banter back and forth and defended them! Ridiculous…IMO! And Patologi did say something to me directly (out of nowhere) a couple weeks back, and I chose to not respond. Elle even commented she was proud of me for ignoring it. 😬😬😬 Not an easy task for someone with my personality.
DeleteWell those words colly mentioned i used it about this storyline and thomas mostly so if you chose to take it personally and it touch a nerve i can’t stop you
DeleteAnd you who keeps replying to my comments its not the other way around
I told you before i don’t like engaging with you and i asked you not to reply to my comments but if you are so obsessed with defending such a character like thomas so im sorry its your issues
Just don’t come and play the honest victim with an angel wings
RJ is so shocked but he doesn’t know the half of what his mummy got up to over the years. He would be shocked and not to pleased with her. She really cannot be surprised after the life she’s led in plain view of Hope and how she always told her she was just following her heart while cheating so it was justified that Hope might do the same one day!
ReplyDeleteDid you notice twice today in the conversations that, Brooke would say something that ended with Thomas’s name, and then you would see this angry look of despise on her face?? It said it exactly what she was thinking…🤣🤣🤣
DeleteBbfan RJ is starting ro remind me of Charlie. Just always popping in on people when the door is closed and they're talking. Oh am I interrupting?
DeleteD 🤣🤣🤣 true, they really need to give him a storyline!! Maybe he can take Thomas’s place as designer on HFTF and it starts a big rivalry between the brothers??
DeleteBb, I think he might have some idea of who his mother is considering both Hope, Thomas, Steffy, Rick and Bridget are ALL half siblings, Plus, Rick and Bridget are ALSO his Aunt and Uncle because they are his grandfathers children.. so I think he has a little bit of an idea?? 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteCol, Thomas and Steffy are his step-siblings. There is absolutely no blood relation. Hope, Bridget and Rick are his half-siblings since they all share the same mother.
DeleteThomas and Steffy's parents are Ridge and Taylor.
Bridget and Rick's parents are Eric and Brooke.
Hope's parents are Deacon and Brooke.
RJ's parents are Ridge and Brooke.
Elle, I think Colly meant they are all R.J.’s half-siblings (not half-siblings to each other). 😅
DeleteYes, sorry, that’s what I meant 🤣🤣🤣 sorry ladies!! But Elle, Thomas and Steffy are his half siblings because they share the same father, Ridge.. So they ar ALL RJ’s half siblings, is what I meant to say.. Every sibling he has is a half sibling all who have different fathers, except steffy and Thomas who are obviously from his fathers first Marriage and family.. But Rick and Bridget are also his uncle and aunty because they are also his grandfathers children with his mother, as well as siblings.. So yeah, my point is that I think he has a bit of an idea who his mother is.. Imagine the poor bugger trying to explain to people his family dynamics, or looking at his family tree!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteElle, I know, it’s confusing, hard to keep track of 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteWhen you said "Hope, Thomas, Steffy, Rick and Bridget are ALL half siblings," what you really meant was they are all HIS half-siblings, not with each other as Unknown said above. OK, understood.
DeleteCol, it does get confusing. Why did Brooke have to go through an entire family of men? It would have been so much simpler if she had all of her children with just one man. 😂 😂 😂
Yes, sorry Elle, my bad love 🤣🤣🤣 but that’s what I meant!! Well we all know the answer to that question love!! First and foremost, Money, and equally, status, and of course let’s not forget, because she “was following her heart”, 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteThank you Bob 💕
ReplyDeleteOh no , Liam goes to forrester creations to go talk with hope to say he wants her back and , he walks in on hope & Thomas kissing again omg , can’t wait to see that happens I think it’s tomorrow that part
ReplyDeleteUnknown, can you kindly refrain from telling everyone what you see in the spoilers.. Although many are incorrect, sometimes they are, and it spoils it for those who don’t want to know what happens before it does happen.. There’s no point in watching it you already know.. thanks love!!🙂
ReplyDeleteOr maybe just put a warning spoiler alert before you say it..
ReplyDeleteLoved how Brooke again pointed the blame where it belonged - at her daughter, not at Thomas. I’m sure that was disappointing to the FF’s who spend all their time looking to disparage Brooke. Also loved how Brooke admitted that she has known for quite some time that Hope had an attraction to Thomas. There was absolutely nothing that made her say that, other than her being totally up front and honest with Ridge in letting him know that it’s Hope’s fault this happened. Good for you, Brooke!!!
ReplyDeleteToo hilarious that Steffy kept telling Thomas it wasn’t his fault and he was completely innocent, because Hope kissed him! Too funny, Steffy!!! Looks like you are projecting and trying to absolve yourself from any wrong doing because Liam kissed you. But that doesn’t fly, lady!! You need to tell your husband!! And you are forgetting to tell Thomas that he should have rejected the kiss instead of being totally on board and absolutely reciprocating the kiss!! But nope, Steffy doesn’t say anything about Thomas’ part in this. 😂😂😂😂😂. The way Steffy described it, Hope was forcefully kissing Thomas against his will!! Sorry, NOPE!!!!! Didn’t happen that way at all!!
And Liam, while I agree with your rationale about why you can’t forgive Hope, and have said many of the same things myself, I don’t understand why you lied to Hope’s face about Steffy??!!! Do you think one good lie deserves another?? You should have come clean about your kisses with Steffy!!!
And Hope, really you’re gonna run to Thomas after Liam says he’s going through with the divorce??? Poor Thomas is ‘Plan B’. Liam won’t have you, so your run to your consolation prize, Thomas. 😂😂😂😂
However, Thomas is so happy to have you, he’ll gladly be your backup plan!!
Ah I missed mentioning that! Steffy really didn't place blame on Thomas for reciprocating the kiss. But on the other hand, neither did Liam interestingly. When he described it to Steffy he was all about Hope. When he saw with his eyes that Thomas was more than happy to kiss back. Maybe when Liam and Thomas have a confrontation (I'm sure it's coming) Liam will mention that. Like you say, it's not like Thomas was being forcefully kissed 😅
DeleteAnd about Brooke too. I wonder when will that utopic time of big big drama "when it comes out what she said about Thomas" (unspecified to this day) come! 😅 😅 So far she has been saying exactly how it is - that she has been worried about the feelings and that Hope is the one who made the mistake.
That’s true, Milla. Just didn’t like how Steffy totally absolved Thomas of any responsibility in this. She knew that kiss messed with his progress in getting over Hope. Yet, she put everything squarely on Hope. IMO what Steffy should have said to Thomas was….”You didn’t initiate the kiss, Thomas. I know it was Hope, not you. But you should have shut it down.”
DeleteI think Liam is so disgusted with Hope for feeling misled for months, that he doesn’t even care so much that Thomas reciprocated. It will be interesting to see how this plays out with Liam and Thomas going forward. Especially if Hope starts spending more time with Thomas now that Liam is filing for divorce.
Not long ago you were saying that nothing is going to happen between hope and Thomas and they weren’t going to break up , well wrong again .
DeleteYes yes exactly Lynn, she should have at least questioned how he handled it? And when (hopefully) he admits that he did reciprocate she should have said what you said.
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DeleteBecause if she's worried about Thomas mental health progress, that's what's important. And that's what a good shrink would immediately ask. We can't control what others do but we can control how we react to it. And if it was someone I care about, that would be my first question.
DeleteAnd regarding Liam - I would grill Thomas about returning the kiss since he was the one who swore to Liam that if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything about it. I remember that because Liam was pretty high and mighty answering "you know that won't ever happen right?" 😅 but still the promise was there and wasn't exactly kept.
Exactly, Milla. And when Thomas said to Steffy today….”I don’t want to be responsible for the breakup of Hope’s marriage” I just laughed. Hello, you kissed a married woman. Maybe think about not participating in cheating if you don’t want to break up someone’s marriage, Thomas!!! What a lame thing to say!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteThere appears to be a fly on the wall of this conversation. 🪰🪰🪰
DeleteHaha it is summertime we have them 😀
DeleteAnd Thomas yes quite inconsistent. Although it's hard for me to be mad at him when he's generally good, you know I have a soft spot for puppy Thomas 😀 also for evil Thomas 😂. The only Thomas I don't care for is maniac Thomas and trashing Brooke Thomas 😂
DeleteThomas enjoyed The kiss, I'm sure about that
DeleteHope will sleep with thomas and sure he will not turn her down
DeleteLet us see then how there will be blame on thomas since we hear all the time how hooe slept with liam while he was separated from steffy
But sure thise standards doesn’t apply for thomas 😂😂
Im so disgusted with hope
Don’t even have the appetite to comment
Some comments here are hilarious it make you feel like they are the only ones watching the show 😂
I don't think anyone is blaming Thomas for responding to Hope's kiss because everyone knows that Thomas has been in love with Hope for a very long time. This is why everyone (except Liam) is more upset with Hope, because they feel that she should have known better given that Thomas is currently undergoing therapy for his obssession with her.
DeleteMmysh, our issue with Hope sleeping with Liam while still married to Steffy is not about her actually sleeping with him. Many people on this show sleep with each other during separations from their spouses.
DeleteThe issue is Hope sleeping with a married Liam while professing to have values and morals and heading a clothing line that speaks to said values and morals. A person who claims to be such a paragon of virtue does not go around sleeping with married men. Thomas has never claimed to be virtuous.
Oh sorry then since thomas has no values or morals so it ok for him, got you 😄
DeleteSame goes to steffy too apparently
DeleteNo values or morals or self respect
So its ok for them to even kill people
I totally understand your point 🥱
Elle Thomas still bears responsibility. He has more responsibility to his wellbeing than Hope. He can control how he reacts, nobody else. The alcoholic has the responsibility to stay away from alcohol. And also he swore up and down he wouldn't do anything "even if she threw herself at him". If anyone else had said those things, and done the *exact opposite*, you would crucify them for lying, but because it's Thomas it's all justified.
DeleteBy the way, I remember now that I *did* say that I don't believe anything will happen between Hope and Thomas. I said it in the sense that I believed there was too much buildup and they are dangling it in front of us but it will turn out something else. Like the Bill Sheila storyline. Or like when it was too obvious Thomas was behind CPS I found it hard to believe it's actually him. So I guess they alternate between obvious-yes and obvious-something else. Next thing that looks obvious should then be something else 🤣
Oh come on milla he is deeply in love he can’t understand what is going on 😂😂😂
DeleteJust like how he killed someone because he was so much in love 😂😂
He is excused
Ah yes the good ol "he can't understand what's going on" 😅 defense. Believed noone ever. Smh.
DeleteBut hope does 😂😂😂😂😂
DeleteMmysh almost EVERY comment involving Thomas you bring how you think he killed someone.. Sooo over it, and it’s so monotonous, it’s all you say, and has nothing to do with “this episode” as your colleagues keep harping.. that is what u call “pathetic”, as you like to tell everyone else and “boring” as u also like to say, when u have no other defence or you have exhausted everything else 🥱🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴😴
DeleteOh hun did i touch s nerve 😂😂
DeleteStill an not the one who is defending and finding lame excuses for disgusting deeds like murder or the attempt to drug a women to rape her
So whatever make you happy 😂😂
"Oh come on milla he is deeply in love he can’t understand what is going on 😂😂😂"
Delete"Ah yes the good ol "he can't understand what's going on" 😅 defense."
I don't recall saying that Thomas doesn't understand what is going on. Mmysh and Milla did! 😂 😂 Hope is the one that keeps saying that she doesn't understand why she's feeling the way she's feeling. 😑
I distinctly recall saying several times that Thomas has picked up on Hope's feelings for him. I've also said before that Thomas was lying about not having feelings for Hope anymore as feelings don't just go away after having them for as long as Thomas has had them for Hope. Hence, Thomas responding to Hope's kisses is because of how he's felt about her for years, not because he doesn't understand what's going on.
"Oh sorry then since thomas has no values or morals so it ok for him, got you 😄"
DeleteNo, you don't get me. 🙄
I didn't say that Thomas has no values or morals. I said he never claimed to have them (like Hope) then went around doing things in direct contradiction of the values and morals he claimed to have. 😑
"Same goes to steffy too apparently
DeleteNo values or morals or self respect
So its ok for them to even kill people
I totally understand your point 🥱"
What does Steffy have to do with the topic of Thomas and Hope? 🙄
And no, it's not okay for them to kill people. It's not okay for anyone to kill someone else.
"Elle Thomas still bears responsibility. He has more responsibility to his wellbeing than Hope."
DeleteAgreed.
For the record, I've never said that Thomas is blameless. I offered a reason as to why everyone on the show is putting the responsibility on Hope.
"By the way, I remember now that I *did* say that I don't believe anything will happen between Hope and Thomas."
DeleteMilla, no need to explain. I honestly don't keep track of who did or did not say whatever. I generalize when I know that a certain viewpoint came from a certain fanbase, without remembering who actually said it.
I'm also actually really tired of being called out over and over for things I've said or not said or being told I was wrong and they were right while having my comments dissected word for word. I'm slowly, but surely, losing my patience and don't feel I'll be posting much anymore. At least not as much as I used to.
"Mmysh almost EVERY comment involving Thomas you bring how you think he killed someone."
DeleteAnd then tries to say that even the actor said Thomas killed Emma (which he didn't) to justify her belief that he did.
However, both the actor and the producer of the show have emphatically stated that Thomas did not murder/kill Emma, yet it is still being said that he did.
I guess, the actor is only to be believed if what he says supports what is being touted as fact. 🙄🙄
But he said it in different interviews
DeleteBut anyway i don’t need him or the producer to say it
Its so clear what really happened so if you chose to deny because it doesn’t make sense to defend it its your choice and there is millions of the viewers see it that way not only me only his fans doesn’t how convenient
For me This story line is just disgusting! An insult to our intelligence as viewers The only ones who might find joy in it is thomas and steffy’s fans who think this is just about Hope being bad bust like the rest of the characters and about vindicating Thomas! (Not you actually)
They refuse to look further than that to see how very insulting and insensitive it is to anyone who has been hurt or victimized in the way this character has in regard to her stolen baby and sexual harassment , and in addition ongoing child abuse of one's own son! no one paying attention, And to those who will say this is just a soap, sure it is but as in every kind of broadcast there is a responsibility to the viewers and an awareness of just who are watching and what message is being sent
And this msg is absolutely not a good one no matter how some like to sugarcoat it
Elle I'm right there with you for the same reasons.
DeleteI don't post very much anmore either. It's getting too aggravating and my patience is wearing thin.
D, it is.
DeleteMmysh, you are so focused on Thomas' past misdeeds that you're not paying attention to the fact that the show has also been highlighting the effects of mental instability and issues, and how it psychologically affects one's behavior. How, proper psychological care can have extreme benefits to a person's sanity. It seems you've also missed the show's efforts at highlighting the benefits of forgiveness to a person who is undergoing treatment for psychological issues.
DeleteYou act like the things Thomas has done were purely diabolical and not as a result of his mental issues. The fact is, Thomas has changed because he committed to sticking with his therapy and working on himself. A lot of people on the show, mainly Hope, have acknowledged his changes and choose to support his efforts rather than tear him down at every turn. It's a good message. Absolutely nothing is wrong with it.
And if Thomas and Hope can go on to have a healthy relationship, it will be yet another message showing that a person with past mental issues can go on to lead a normal life and experience genuine love.
"But anyway i don’t need him or the producer to say it
DeleteIts so clear what really happened so if you chose to deny because it doesn’t make sense to defend it its your choice"
It apparently isn't clear what really happened because you keep referring to it as murder when you have no idea what it entails.
The show also left the scene as an ambiguous one so, again, not clear at all.
And I don't deny it because I have no defense. I deny it because it simply did not happen. Thomas did not murder or kill Emma. We can all agree that Thomas was wrong for not calling 911 because it was very clear that he didn't. That's me NOT defending Thomas. He was wrong, period.
I can say the same thing about you. "if you choose to deny that Thomas didn't kill Emma because it supports your hatred of the character, its your choice."
He caused her death if it wasn’t for him she would be alive period
DeleteTo me he killed her
Try to dress it in any dress you want
That doesn’t change what really happened
In where i life not calling for help is a crime not alone how he enjoyed watching her taking her last breath with a smirk on his face
A satisfaction look that hope will not know
And yet he went to hope with no single guilt or feeling bad for the poor girl so he van comfort hope when she got the news
He even took advantage still of the tragic situation
Sugarcoat it as you like but still doesn’t change the facts of what really happened
Im saying that he can’t be redeemed even from this
But did he serve time or give her family a closure or at least feel any remorse or guilt, none
So when he do those things we can say he is redeemed
Elle I agree about the keeping track. But we’ve all been guilty of that, we have to admit that. And we all generalize because we can’t remember who exactly said what but it revolves around a certain viewpoint. Maybe we should all make a point not to do it so much. At least I will. I admit I have felt a certain tingle when I see that the opposite viewpoint is disproved on screen. But I also have made the case in a previous episode that this is always true for a certain point in time/episode and then sth else happens and the other side is "right". That's how they keep us hooked.
DeleteBtw for the sake of both of your sanity, Elle and Mmysh, maybe you should agree to disagree on the Emma topic. Noone will convince the other of their truth. You both know how each of you sees it and if you ask me, that should be enough.
DeleteAgreed on all points, Milla.
DeleteThe biggest problem is that rather than just have an opinion, or just agree to disagree, is that certain people are so determined to prove the other wrong, and call people things like pathetic, hypocrites, sick, etc to a point that it’s becoming more about hatred for the “other” posters, rather than the characters, even to the point referring to other posters being like that in real life.. it’s not acceptable.. it is often even outright said that it’s a big “competition”, and it’s “fun” to prove people wrong or “their lies”.. but to most people on here it’s not, and those who think being disrespectful and mean spirited to other posters is “fun”, then it’s their issue, and it almost feels at times that some people are purposely trying to get the other “team” to leave the board.. many people have, mostly FFans.. It’s beyond rediculous and childish.. WE ALL need to treat “each other” with respect, and respect each others opinions.. That’s what a blog is supposed to be.. People having their own opinions and respecting others opinions.. If we can stick to that, it would be a lot more “fun”.. I understand where Elle is coming from, and it’s not fun having to be reactive to someone else who “enjoys” being that way with the so called competition.. And I admit I have been reactive, and despite what some might think, I don’t enjoy it.. This blog used to be so peaceful and nice to interact with others even if they had differing opinions, and now it’s just a mess.. I try to have a sense of humour but people take things so bloody seriously, and forget that it’s a “fictional” show.. So I agree Elle, and Milla.. And that’s me included!!
DeleteColly, have you seen my personal stalker “Unknown”??? Definitely not on the LF team, and definitely crosses boundaries constantly. I completely ignore the person, but the nastiness persists. So now I lovingly refer to her as….🪰🪰🪰
DeleteOh colly save the lecture to yourself
DeleteI will not add more not worth it
Ss i told you once i done engage with you so don’t reply to me and expect i will agree with you on those disgusting behavior
End of story
I will never cheer for a child abuser killer character but you do
So just ignore my comments
Lynn I agree with you about the unknown.. it’s definitely not acceptable..
DeleteMmysh I don’t really care to be honest.. You are more obsessed with Thomas than any of the characters on the show are.. There’s almost not a coment that you don’t bring up him being a murderer etc.. And how offensive he is AND those who support him… perhaps you should stop watching if you are this discussed in him and those who like him.. If you are constantly going to carry on the way u have been and continue to attack posters with nastiness calling sick and pathetic and I can go on and on, I don’t care to engage with you, and never have to be honest.. U r so on the defensive because you know it is you I am referring to.. unlike others, my approach is a little more direct, but many people feel the same way as I do about your behaviour towards other posters and how you call them many horrible things.. So as you please.. carry on..
😂😂😂 obsessed don’t mix me with you hun
DeleteIt’s obvious who is bothered with what i said about thomas which is true btw that’s why it’s bothering you a lot
Because you can’t handle how a disgusting character he is
And btw he is a main character in the ongoing storyline line so yes he is the current subject right now
But you obsessed with defending him and his criminal actions in every post i speak the truth about him
I don’t reply to your posts and any one can see that
But still you obsessed to reply to almost all of my comments
I even don’t read most of your comments
So just take another look in the mirror and in the blog and the comment you wrote should be to you
But again whatever make you feel better 🤭
@BBFan. Absolutely JMW had had her own kids! Immediately noticed just a little while back that she was holding things in front of her stomach so I figured she was pregnant and I looked it up and she is. Also if you look online after she has her babies, you can see that she doesn't look perfect yet, but who does? It takes her a while to get back in shape as it does anybody else
ReplyDeleteAye Kidd, I found that comment about her using pads to pretend to be pregnant while having a secret surrogate really offensive. Hating on a fictional character is one thing but saying straight up lies about the actors is so wrong!!!
DeleteAfter her last child, I remember a poster here making some disparaging remarks about the extra weight she had. I had to remind the poster that she just had another child and was still in that "baby fat" phase.
DeleteI don't know why people get so critical of the actors themselves. There have been so many comments about Taylor's scrawny shoulders as well. We can bash Brooke all day long but you don't hear anyone saying anything negative about KKL's looks. It's so uncalled for.
JMW looks amazing, no idea what's there to even bash?
DeleteElle I'd like to see something negative being said about KKL 😂 I dare people. She inspires me to look like her in 25 years ❤️
Well Milla, her hair looked a bit flat on her way to/from Rome but I didn't say anything. 😂😂
DeleteAhahah Elle, that’s big of you, much appreciate your restraint 😂😂🤗
DeleteBut i hope steffy can give up the wigs she has a beautiful hair, sometimes the wig look like she didn’t wash her hair for months
DeleteBecause JMW has a choice about being forced to wear a wig on a show?? See you just can’t let it go! Even the new Taylor made jokes about the wig she’s been made to wear or should I say wigs! Actors do what is scripted decided they will do. Mysh and Lynn have both made very personal and ugly comments about JMWs personal appearance many times!! But again no date insult Brooke, a fictional character lol! Mysh you call people liars, pathetic etc daily. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot or liar etc.
DeleteI’m so sick of your nasty comments towards other posters every day. You mock too always using your snarky laughter emoji’s on people’s posts.
Maybe you really can’t see that what you and Lynn and yes I’ll make you, because you’ve made a lot of hostile ugly comments about other posters for daring to disagree with the LF approved narrative here! Maybe you ladies cannot see what an utterly toxic environment you create and that it hurts real people posting here! All to win and force everyone to agree about your favourite fictional characters!!
Enough already. We just want to enjoy the blog and be allowed to have whatever opinion we have and give our rationale for having it.
Oh bbfan i will not even bother to resd the rest of your comment
DeleteWe didn’t meant it in a bad way
But god how paranoid you are
I don’t care about her
Its was a comment for her sake not the other way around
But sure you will twist it
Not worth it really
Its funny coming from you 😂😂😂
Oh how you used to bully and mock and make fun of the few who dared to comment back when it was all only ff‘s here
So don’t play the honorable here
And yeah the wigs are ugly that’s not about the actress but sure you will make it about her and you
You stop the hustle comments and you will see how the environment will change
And sorry we can’t adore the characters you like so will you feel better
What we write is the truth but sorry it bothers you
Just ignore our posts from now on and i will ignore yours simply
But i will comment about how disgusting i See thomas when i see fit
So give it a rest
We were not badmouthing the actress
Don’t much care about her anyway
Not obsessed in other words
She is s good actress that all i care
And funny how you didn’t see i wrote she has a nice hair 😂😂😂 but you still see it as a negative comment 🥱🥱🥱
Who here thinks that maybe Hope-n-Thos. really hooked up in Rome? No mention to the contrary, and a good old fashioned pregnancy merry go round can fix what ails ya.
ReplyDelete🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI do personally it we will see.. after the way they were acting it was a logical conclusion, after all what happened in Rome stays in Rome, right????
DeleteI've been saying that Hope has not shown any actual regret for kissing Thomas, meaning that she hasn't stated to Liam that the kiss didn't mean anything or that it was a mistake (things people would usually say when their marriage is on the line). Then, yesterday, Hope was telling Liam that she was ashamed of what she had done, and that "I never should...." then she stopped. I'm curious as to what she was about to say. "I never should have kissed Thomas?" "I never should have slept with Thomas?"
DeleteThis could mean that something more probably happened. A simple kiss or two should not mean so much to her that she would not say it meant nothing, if it could save her marriage. Maybe something more did happen in Rome. We will see.
I personally believe that Hope's feelings for Thomas are so strong that, even in the face of losing her marriage, she can't bring herself to trivialize whatever she and Thomas shared in Rome.
Maybe Thomas can get a new license plate for his car that says “Plan B” He may as well wear it proudly!!! Hope has lost her dang mind. One minute she is crying and pleading to Liam to not break up their family, and 15 minutes later she shows up at Thomas’ house telling him she wants a man like him…’who only has eyes for her’!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI wonder which way the wind will blow Hope’s skirt tomorrow ??? She has officially entered the world of WAFFLING!!!! A world that the men of B&B know all too well!! Poor Thomas, I actually feel sorry for him!!
Oh and Elle, I’m pretty sure Hope said the words to both Brooke and Liam…..”it was a mistake.”….regarding her kiss with Thomas.
Lynn she said it multiple times.
DeleteLynn, only you would think that Thomas is Hope's plan B because you refuse to acknowledge that she has been developing feelings for Thomas for a while now. She has been thinking of Thomas even when being intimate with her husband. She has been justifying what she's feeling by bringing up her husband's continuous cheating over the years, and she has openly admitted to her mother that she has feelings for Thomas long before they shared a kiss.
Delete"Oh and Elle, I’m pretty sure Hope said the words to both Brooke and Liam…..”it was a mistake.”….regarding her kiss with Thomas."
DeleteAnd you really do not understand what I've been saying regarding Hope having no regret for kissing Thomas. Hope would have said she made a mistake kissing Thomas because it led to her marriage being in trouble. Mistake meaning error in judgement on her part. However, she has not admitted that her kissing Thomas (the act), being included in the time they spent together in Rome, was a mistake or did not mean anything. And this is why Liam believes without a doubt, that Hope has feelings for Thomas.
Whatever mistake she said she made with Thomas was because she did not mean for it to affect her marriage, not that she did not mean for it to happen. Still don't know if I'm being clear enough but that's the perspective I'm coming from.
Something can mean a lot to someone and still be a mistake, a big one when something else (marriage, kids, family) that suffers means *more*. Hope doesn't have to say it meant nothing for her to know that it was a mistake.
DeleteWell, I guess she has no qualms whatsoever about making a mistake again because there she goes, again, kissing Thomas.
DeleteHer actions on yesterday's show support exactly what I've been trying to say. Hope has no regret about Thomas. None.
Then, I guess she's happy to make the mistake again since she kissed Thomas again. It proves exactly what I've been trying to say, that while Hope regrets the damage her actions have caused to her marriage, she has no regret about what she did with Thomas. She even told Thomas that she will always remember the two of them being at the Collesium.
DeleteAnd btw Milla, that's exactly what I've been trying to say. Hope regrets that her error in judgment (mistake) has affected her marriage but she does not regret kissing Thomas because the kiss meant a lot to her.
DeleteI thought for sure that, in order to save her marriage, she would have acknowledged her mistake AND say that it meant nothing to her (throw Thomas under the bus), but she didn't. It's as if she's sorry that her marriage is ending but she's also open to the prospect of a relationship with Thomas.
Elle, there have been comments by FF’s about how horribly Hope treated Thomas after their day in Rome. You know you have said negative things about the way she handled things with Thomas. So let’s not pretend for even a minute that Hope didn’t beg Liam not to leave her on multiple days of the show. She was completely devastated.
DeleteSo yes, if Hope turns to Thomas after Liam says he wants nothing to do with her anymore, then that makes Thomas SECOND CHOICE, PLAN B, BACKUP PLAN….whatever you want to call it, it’s ALL TRUE!!!
I couldn’t care less that she was having thoughts about Thomas during her marriage. She wanted to stay married to Liam. That was her CHOICE. But Liam rejected her. And here we are.
If after the kissing in Rome, Hope would have gone home and asked Liam for a divorce, then I would have to admit I was wrong about her love for Liam. But that’s not even close to what happened!! She begged Liam to stay married to her and to forgive her. She chose Liam!!
I have said that I am disappointed with both Hope and Thomas about how they handled things in Rome.
DeleteAnd yes, I have seen Hope beg Liam not to give up on her, their marriage and their family but I also saw her admit to her husband that she has feelings for Thomas. Hope loves Liam AND has feelings for Thomas. And from the way she acted on yesterday's show and the things she told Thomas, it seems to me she's good either with Liam forgiving her or not forgiving her.
Ending a marriage and moving into a new relationship does not make either man first or second choice or plan A or B, in my opinion. But it seems you are trying to discredit what Hope feels for Thomas by saying that he is just her backup plan, just like it has been said that Liam doesn't love Steffy and that she is his rebound, or that Ridge doesn't truly love Taylor, she is just his plan B. All of which are foolish notions since people fall in and out of love all the time and especially since we have seen real and genuine love with all of these couples.
I think we should wait until we see what is actually going to happen between Hope and Thomas. For all we know, they may end up being married and Hope would tell Thomas that he is the true love of her life and her destiny. After all, she just told him that she will never forget their time at the Colosseum. I wonder what that makes Liam? A distant memory? Not important? Someone she stayed with to please her mother?
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DeleteIndeed Lynn. When it became clear to Hope that there’s no point to fight and especially when she realized about the Steffy factor in play yet again, that’s when she ran to Thomas. She sees him as the only man who sees her and never Steffy (also the only one on the planet with that definite quality when you think about it). Right now it’s all about that.
DeleteMilla, agreed.
DeleteElle, I would agree that ending a marriage does not make someone else second choice IF Hope chose to get divorced. But since she fought hard for marriage, but Liam shut her down, then yes, in my eyes….Thomas is second choice / a fallback guy / a backup plan.
And I don’t think Thomas is anything other than a shiny object to Hope right now. If that develops into her (dare I say it…) falling in love with him, and she actually tells Thomas he is her ‘destiny’ then I will admit I’m wrong. But for now, I simply see Thomas as Hope’s forbidden fruit like I think Milla mentioned.
DeleteAnd Elle, please keep in mind that Hope told Thomas as much when she was telling him she destroyed her marriage and that Liam is divorcing her and that he went running to Steffy. The only reason she is standing there with Thomas at all is because Liam wouldn’t give their marriage another chance. Thomas is so desperate for Hope’s love that he doesn’t even care about what got her there. He’s just happy she is there telling him there’s a chance for the two of them (Hope and Thomas.)
DeleteI’m always gonna see it this way. And I think (whether you admit it or not) you see it that way too.
So let’s see what develops or doesn’t develop between them. Time will tell.
I really don't see it that way, Lynn, because as I said before, I've seen Hope's feelings for Thomas change over time and I've seen those feelings develop even more, long before there was even a thought of her marriage ending.
DeleteI also think that her desperation to save her marriage had more to do with losing someone who has been a part of her life for most of her adult life than it had to do with losing Liam. Not that she doesn't love him, but she also admitted that she has feelings for Thomas.
And let's not forget that Liam also said that Hope chose Thomas since she knew that he wouldn't be able to forgive her for what she did with him. That's why he walked away from her. Because she made the choice first to kiss Thomas over their marriage. Steffy said that it seems Hope's feelings for Thomas are mutual when Finn talked about Thomas' deep love for Hope, and Hope herself said that her feelings for Thomas are not logical and that she wanted to kiss him in Rome even though she knew it was a risk to her marriage.
So, I think we need to see more of what is really going on with Hope. As Liam said, she doesn't want to admit her true feelings for Thomas so, maybe we might see that happening soon.
Liam is such a lying sanctimonious asshole. He has done much worse than just kiss Steffy in the past and he thinks that’s okay. I hope he gets more of what’s coming to bite him in the ass. Finn ought to beat the shit out of his girlie ass wants the kiss gets out.
ReplyDeleteOnse not wants
ReplyDeleteGood on you Liam ..walk away
ReplyDeleteHe straight up lied when he said he hadn't had a single thought of Steffy til then when he's kissed her twice..he likes these women to heed all the blame so he can always play victim. I hope she never looks back!!
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