Oh, Thomas. What have you done now? You know your shenanigans are going to be found out. But at least we finally know what all the clumsy foreshadowing with the voice simulator was leading up to.
Wow, I don't understand why the writers would make it look like Thomas is getting better only to put him down again. They should start picking on someone else for a change.
Im hoping that someone isnt trying to set thomas up th be the culprit that called cps..i wouldnt put it past brook or liam either one .. as much as they hate him due to their jelly issues over taylor thom steffy and ridge
Thomas didn’t even know about the app! If he did it’s a very good fake. It’s daft though because a voice sym wouldn’t capture the inflection etc ๐๐. Brooke hates Thomas enough I could see her doing it and lying to Ridge about it.
She’s so ridiculous… a crazy man with a knife… keep forgetting he was cutting a bloody apple part lol
@BBfan101 How many times has Brooke said she loves Ridge, and has said to people that she would never lie to Ridge? Oh, what was that I heard today, LIE, and now she got BUSTED!
@Elizabeth, you sure? Cause I have the feeling that Thomas called CPS himself, using the voice changing app to frame Brooke. So personally I think that the one lying and manipulating today was Thomas
@ Valentina Here's how I see it, yesterday, Did Brooke not say that she would do anything to protect Douglas, even calling the CPS to Ridge? Didn't Ridge, today, start thinking about what Brooke had told him recently? Now, you mentioned about the voice app, so I guess we will find out tomorrow if that was Brooke's real voice or not. Also, didn't Brooke have her phone in her hand when she came back into the room @ Forrester's, where Hope and Liam were talking to get her purse?
@Valentina Thomas does not know about the app. It is on Douglas' phone. And since Thomas was not at home when CPS showed up, it means that he could not have possibly used the app to call them. If the app was used, then it had to be someone who was already at the mansion and had access to Douglas' phone.
Everyone I know has their phone in their hand all the time. That is not proof that Brooke made the call. I'm telling you all, IT WAS THOMAS, no question
Also, Thomas probably has the same app on his phone. It's stupid to assume that Douglas is the only person alive with that phone app. Come on guys, y'all are really playing dumb about this. I promise, it was Thomas
Hilary, this is a soap opera. Real life does not apply. There is a reason they showed Douglas explaining the app to Eric then we hear nothing of it again until today. I do not believe that Thomas is the culprit. They are just making it look like it is him.
Uh, I know it's a soap opera, and I also know Douglas showed Eric the app Eric is an old man who probably doesn't use fun phone apps. They pointed out the app so we would be familiar with it. I understand all that. Not sure why you think you need to explain that to me
Can you move on from the knife already...also, anything is possible, Taylor's a psychologist and she's crossed legal boundaries with her unethical behavior...seems strange Thomas, her son was her patient...she's as crazy as he is...but again it is a soap...don't get me started on Steffy..."the pot calling the kettle black"...let's see she seduced Liam (Hope's fiance') married his brother Wyatt than had an affair with her father in law...married Liam again because she dropped the baby bomb...last but not least now married to Finn...this is the women that criticizes Brooke? I'm waiting for the episode that Hayes is not Finn's son...not impossible, its a soap!
@Truth, Thomas was never Taylor’s patient.. She is his mother who helped him through a tough time in his life, as any mother does, but she just happens to be a psychiatrist by trade, so it’s easy to assume she took him on as a patient, but at no stage was it said that she had him as a patient.. So no, she did not break any ethical laws.. She was a mother helping her child, just like she helps any of her loved ones and people she cares about.. In regards to the knife, I think you need to tell brook that ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Hilary, I think that app is more for kids, not sure if adults would download?? But it’s looking to obvious that either brook or Thomas called them.. So maybe, just maybe, Douglas wants to stay with his dad and he could have overheard things from when Liam and Thomas talking, or Thomas and hope or anyones conversations.. Douglas is a pretty smart kid.. The way he handled the people from CPS, he is more mature than people give him credit for?? But we will eventually find out at some stage??
Sorry Colly, i must have missed the part where he got professional help for his mental issues...so who was his psychiatrist? It sounds like you know he had professional help, my bad...do you have a name because all I remember is how his mother was helping him through it all...my guess is he never got the professional help he desperately needed...correct me if I'm wrong...
Truth, I think you missed my point, his mother helped him, but she did not take him on as a patient, he was not put on her books, or paid for sessions.. She helped on a personal mother helping someone son.. sorry, I should have explained it better, my bad..
Or perhaps a better example would be, when my children are sick and unwell, I take care of them, just like any mother does their kids when they are unwell, but I am also a practitioner, and as far as I am aware, I have not broken any laws or been unethical in any way.. There is no law to say I “can’t” care for my children just because I happen to be a practitioner..
@Hilary don't bet them little piggies on Thomas, please ๐ I wouldn't bet mine even that it's not Brooke! Who knows what those writers could come up with and justify then where we sit and are all WTF?! ๐
Douglas is a minor. If Thomas does not know what apps are on Douglas' phone, then he is not a very attentive father. On the phone recording, the person calls herself Brooke Logan. Brooke goes by Forrester, so if it was really Brooke, she would have said Brooke Forrester. Thomas and Steffy hate Brooke and do not consider Brooke a Forrester even though Brooke is married to Ridge. It seems more likely that Thomas would have said Brooke Logan than Brooke. I think that there is some reason they showed the phone app otherwise it would have been just wasted filler time.
Point taken Colly...every mother should offer the support to their children and advice, I'm sure you're exactly that person...I'm a parent, but if I see a child of mine needing professional help mentally I would definitely find a professional suited for that kind of attention...in my opinion Thomas is beyond Taylor's help...sick or unwell is not the same as getting my child a psychiatrist...that is my point that you missed...again my question, did he get any professional (psychiatrist) help in any of the past episodes?
Truth, I get your point also, I can’t remember if he got professional help from anyone else, as they didn’t state or show that.. perhaps not.. But, despite what people on this blog think of Taylor’s skills as a psychiatrist, on the show, she is portrayed as a “world renowned” psychiatrist, so she is portrayed as one of the best in the world..
again, dismissing what people on here think, and that is on the writers and the way they are portraying her since she returned.. however, as of this week, they seem to be getting better at attempting to portray her as such.. But Thomas is an adult, and knew he needed help, and there is a lot of conversations supposed to have happened off screen.. but, wether or not he chose to or maybe did get help elsewhere, is irrelevant, because it has not been said that she treated him as a paid psychiatrist on her books.. Only as his mother who was there for him and helped him through his issues as any other psychiatrist would.. If she “world renowned”, why would he need to see anyone else.. so if Thomas has changed, then her help would have been sufficient due to her reputation at what she does.. If my kids needed surgery, which I am not equipped to do, of course I would take them to whomever can help them with their needs.. But, I am not breaking any laws by treating them as a mother because I am a practitioner.. so it would be the same with Taylor and Thomas.. And there is no solid proof that he hasn’t changed.. Just because he looked at a photo and reminisced, does not mean he is up to his old tricks.. All he has done since he got well, is good things.. Stepping up to be a good father to Douglas, and he could have had his chance with Hope when Liam went to prison, and Liam even gave Thomas his wishes to be there for her and the kids.. But what did Thomas do?? He found out about Bonnie and got Liam out of prison and back home to Hope and the kids.. In soap time, it’s been years since he had his operation on his brain, so it’s unfair to say he hasn’t changed..
Truth you are talking about wayyyy back for Steffy. Brooke has done the same things over and over and also slept with sons and brothers in law too!!!
Liam loves Steffy, he married her 3 times and not because he had to!
FYI Hope has broken off her engagement because everything wasn’t perfect in her princess world. So once her engagement is off she has NO say over who her ex marries afterwards. Her changing her mind and wanting him back doesn’t entitle her to have that! Liam got tired of her immature childish demands and games. Hope was a teenager who desperately wanted to get married and her mum was pushing that… why??? She should have been thinking about University and a career etc.
She just wanted her Prince Charming to take care of her and she live in another palace the rest of her life or just stay with mummy and play house in the cabin for forever.
The fact Brooke started out trying to break up Ridge’s engagement to Caroline and then their marriage. Then his marriage to Taylor yet Logan fans rattle on about destiny ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ.
We are all supposed to forget Brooke’s past and the fact that Hope slept with Liam how many times while he was married to Steffy over the years and got pregnant with Beth while they were married too. Or how Hope was. married to Wyatt and Liam and sleeping with both brothers at the same time! She hasn’t been an angel here.
Yet Steffy is called every nasty name in the book. That’s hypocritical!
Colly I agree. Just like Steffy had her rehab off screen for months in Soapy time.
We don’t see everything that happens , it gets referenced. Thomas has mentioned more than once getting the help he needed. We just didn’t see it. He thanked his mother for believing in him and supporting his recovery. I think viewers mistake that for him not getting treatment. He had a brain tumour come on.
Exactly Bfan.. People seem to forget very easily that he had a medical condition.. it really annoyed when Brooke brought up the mannequin gate to both Thomas and Hope, and neither Thomas or Hope set her straight that he collapsed and had to have surgery after Hope got worried about what Finn said.. They keep acting like that was just him being crazy.. Hope went to check on home and he collapsed, rushed to hospital and had major brain surgery.. Brooke conveniently forgets that!!
@BBfan. Like Elle was saying there was only Eric and Douglas that knew of the app. I don't think Douglas is articulate enough if you listen to the wording. Maybe Thomas was show the app by Douglas, we just didn't see that in the show. It will be interesting to find out. Now how is Ridge going to tell Brooke he knows it was her? He can't say he heard the call.
@D I think it is building up to make it look like it's Thomas who did it however, I do not believe for a second it was him. I still think it was Douglas.
You guys don't know that Thomas doesn't know about the app! That is ridiculous speculation. He probably put the app on Douglas's phone for all we know! Not everything happens on camera.
@Elle I don't think it is really Thomas and there will be a twist to this. I'm just not sure it's Douglas either. I'm not into all these apps that are around but if a 7 yr old (not sure of his age) knows of it then so will alot of people.
By your logic, then Brooke is just as guilty. She left the office then returned with her phone in her hand and stated that she will do whatever it takes to ensure Douglas' safety. She could have made the call off screen.
@D I don't think it is Thomas either although many on this board are hoping that it will turn out to be him.
It's true that anyone can have the app on their phone but this is soapworld we are talking about. They purposely showed Douglas explaining the app to Eric, I believe, to show how well acquainted he is with it. When he showed it to Eric, he told him that he had recorded Donna's voice. Douglas was in the house when Brooke and Thomas were going at it and had the opportunity to record her voice. Thomas did not have the same opportunity since all he had in his hand was a knife and an apple, so he could not have recorded Brooke's voice.
Here’s a thought, Donna has been looking after Douglas, maybe Doug showed her the app and she did it ๐คฃ๐คฃ but seriously, I have had a feeling for a while that Douglas might use the app like Elle said? Time will tell?? If it is Thomas, then all I can say is brooks constant attacks and demands and trying to make him look unfit to father Doug all for own agenda, who would blame him!! It’s not right, that’s not what I am saying.. but, she is relentless and Thomas knows she will stop at nothing, so she is driving him to act out.. and it’s not like she hasn’t done even shadier things than that.. faking pregnancy’s and misscarages to hold on to ridge, yeah that’s not shady at all!!
Hilary, they know it was Thomas. It’s just so much more rewarding for them to blame Brooke. Old habits die hard! ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ When this comes out - and that could take a long time, Ridge better be absolutely furious with Thomas!! There better be serious repercussions! I’m so sick of Thomas never getting in trouble for anything he does!!!
Yes Elle, that is a very good point!! Thomas has not been around brook for a very long time till that day, and he had the pocket knife and apple in his hand pretty much the whole time, his phone was nowhere to be seen or him picking it up.. I definately think Douglas overheard.. Douglas probably picked up when brook said can u use something safer and Thomas said I been cutting apples that way his whole life, no big deal.. the way Doug handled the cps officers, especially when they asked if felt safe, the way he responded.. it’s Douglas!! Both brook and Thomas r too obvious..
I just went back and listened to the recording a few times, I don’t think it was either Brooke or Thomas, I definitely think it’s Douglas.. when she says he is unstable and has a knife, then says please hurry.. If it were any adult, they would not have said that way.. even if it was Thomas, and he planned for Ridge to hear it, he would have made it a bit more adult like than just he’s unstable and has a knife please hurry.. It would have been more like he has a long history of instability and that she went their to find him using a dangerous knife around Douglas.. Not just, “he has a knife, please hurry”.. that’s a bit too dramatic for even Brooke or Thomas.. ?? And the way Thomas looked when hearing it.. if he knew what was said he would not have had the reaction he did, he would have just kept his focus on Ridge.. It really is a “who done it” ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
@Lynn I think it was Thomas also. On the recording, the caller said Brooke Logan. If it was Brooke, I think she would have said Brooke Forrester. Thomas hates Brooke and he and Steffy do not consider Brooke a Forrester. If Ridge finds out that Thomas was the one that called, Ridge should be livid, but knowing Ridge he will just give Thomas a slap on the wrist like he did when he found out that Thomas contributed to Emma's death and stood and watch her die without trying to help. I think that is part of what is wrong with Thomas. He is never held accountable for what he does, it is usually covered up by Ridge and Taylor.
Good for Taylor for showing backbone. I respect her for saying it like it is - back and forth, forever and ever. Steffy should be smart and support her. Again I'll say it - whoever thinks that Brooke is behind this... must be watching tv for the first time ๐๐ it goes right next to believing Sheila was really mauled by a bear when the police first showed that toe. Ah Thomas, I'm sure you know right away how to check about a RECORDING of the call... that didn't take long ๐ but yes he's a bit too obvious of a choice. Liam wouldn't stoop that low. If he called, he would use his voice, wouldn't set Brooke up. Also Brooke wouldn't say Brooke Logan but Forrester.
PS should go without saying, but - just because WE don't know someone knows about the app (esp around Douglas) doesn't mean they really don't know about it. He's said to have quality time there that potentially includes more conversation than what we're privy to which is 2 mins every 3 days.
I was glad to hear Taylor too. She’s making the right decision and no, she’s never been a home wrecker so glad she’s going to keep that part of her character true to history.
I'm so glad that the writers started to make some better storylines. It had been getting ridiculous the way the writers had made Taylor look like an idiot. I sure hope that the writers have come to their senses and realize their stupidity writing of the past was getting pathetic.
It's too bad that they give one good promising scene of hers to get our hopes up and then the whole next week it's the same repetitive annoying crap. At least to me.
Sometimes I feel like the writers take what we say and implement into the show. There was so much outrage about the way they were writing Taylor to be a homewrecker when she never was and how she was never one to run behind Ridge. Now, here they have her saying the same things. I'm happy about that.
@M I think if the writers intend on having Thomas revert to his old ways, they would actually show his downward spiral on screen. They showed him practicing restraint when he was looking at the picture of Hope on his phone. Why would they do that but then off-screen have him install an app on his phone? Also, they went to lengths to redeem the character by explaining his behaviour as head trauma. If he reverts to his old behaviour, how would they explain that?
They don't have to explain it. We're talking about the same writers who conveniently forget half the shows history, and 2/3 of the show's characters! A lot of stuff is apparently supposed to be happening off screen. We just get to see the same stupid repetitive shit day after day ๐
@Hilary exactly. They do do inexplicable things also in hopes of surprising us. Nobody saw the Finn being alive thing coming or Sheila doing the bear thing. @Elle: they do try to change it up (which is sometimes good, sometimes not so ๐). To me Thomas is too direct a suspect. Steffy on the other hand... ๐ could totally be in on it without us knowing. Remember how determined she was telling Thomas that now they must act to put them back together. Of course they couldn't predict Brooke saying about CPS but could have made the plan after. To me Charlie plays some role. Even if he isn't the mastermind.
I have a really nagging feeling it’s Douglas.. he is a very smart kid.. I think he wants to stay with Thomas.. the way he handled the cps officers, he’s way more mature than his age.. Thomas and brook are to obvious..
@Hilary exactly. They do try to surprise, sometimes it works (like the Finn survival), sometimes it's laughable. @Elle: the point here is to create a mystery where many people are suspects. We don't get to see it all. It could as well be Steffy who at that point urged Thomas they have to act now. We will get to see what we didn't see when there is a confession. My guess is someone overheard Brooke saying about CPS or when Ridge was telling that she said it (wasn't that around when Charlie appeared out of the blue to annoy us? I can't be bothered to rewatch.)
@Colly: I was thinking it too but calling actual CPS and saying it the way it was said... Seems a bit far-fetched. Not implausible though, weirder things have happened on the show. But maybe Charlie helped him. I definitely think there was at least an involvement from a grownup.
M, I think it’s like Elle said, and what I also think from a couple things, Douglas is very smart and intuitive.. I think he picked up the tension with brook and Thomas, and he heard brook say to Thomas couldn’t you use something safer and Thomas tell her it’s no big deal.. then Thomas told Douglas to go to Donna.. I think Douglas was listening in on their conversation.. and took that opportunity to record brooks voice.. Thomas did not touch his phone while she was there to be able to record her voice.. add to that, Thomas has not seen brook, as far as we can tell, for a very long time to b able to record her voice.. and further to that, both brook and Thomas have both been shown by the writers to be too obvious a choice.. I think Douglas wants to stay with his dad but knows the Logan’s call the shots..
Also M, the recording was not what you would expect an adult to say.. if u listen to it, it just didn’t come off as what an adult would.. if it was Thomas , I would have expected much more from that recording??
I don't think it's Thomas also for many reasons. But also not Douglas alone, if it is him alone, he's taken after his father in scary ways, the student (even though not directly taught) becomes the master ๐
@Elle: did they present Taylor as home wrecker? I myself wouldn't blame her of that. Yes she kissed the man but it was mutual and she even apologized for it to Brooke. That was when I said hats off to new Taylor. If anyone is trying to wreck that marriage, it's Steffy. I think her fans should be outraged, also for the mind-numbing dialogue this poor beautiful actress is forced to repeat.
M, I wouldn’t go that far to say that.. As mature as he is, he is still a kid, who has pretty much been kept away from his dad 95% of the time for years now.. And the reason Thomas is stepping up, is because Doug stressed about wether Thomas really loves and misses him when they are together.. He knows he has to go back to Hopes , because the Logan’s have been calling all the shots for years now, and he doesn’t want to.. Also, it baffles me how Brooke says nobody gets well that quickly.. It’s been years now that Douglas has been with Hope.. They brought a new kid in to highlight that.. It’s not been a couple months as some might believe.. I think that was the point they were making when they brought in the new actor.. If Douglas has overheard things, he might have done it so, in the case Brooke and Hope try to claim Thomas is unfit, then they can say cps has deemed otherwise , which helps Thomas’s case.. The way Douglas handled the officers, especially when they asked if he felt safe, and about the homework.. if u rewatch it you see what I mean.. But in any case , even if it was Douglas, it’s a far stretch to say he is a mini Thomas.. Kids these days are a lot smarter than we know, but at the same time just kids..
I mean what was said to CPS is way too dark for an undisturbed child. Maybe I'm looking at it too much through the lense of real life but I would be worried a lot if he was mine and I found out his mind can work like that - set up grandma like that via CPS, find their contacts, interact like that with them. And the goal of it - to break up grandpa and grandma? Because where his custody is concerned, this incident doesn't make much difference. If anything, it could hurt Thomas (esp from a healthy child perspective, officials coming to determine him fit or not - can go either way, but in no way grant him more time with Thomas)
If he wanted to secure more time with Thomas where CPS is concerned (and I don't believe they would have a say unless there is a legal battle), he could have said that he prefers to be there. It makes no sense him doing all that or at least not all alone.
@Colly It's true that Douglas has been with Hope for years based on the older version of Douglas that is on the show now.
@M Given the above, Douglas would have been around Hope, Liam and Brooke for several years and could have easily been influenced during that time. As a matter of fact, most, if not all the adults around Douglas have done some kind of dirt that they are not proud of which caused them to be a bad example to Douglas.
So the writers are going to continue the recycled stories all over again. I guess it's time for another B&B break. I'll hopefully come back to a better storyline.
How can Thomas put Brooke in jail if Brooke believed that Douglas was in danger and called CPS? You are supposed to be allowed to call anonymously if you believe a child is in danger, you do not need proof. Thomas and Ridge can cause Walter to lose his license for telling them who called. If they use this info against Brooke in any way, Walter can lose his license. Of course, Ridge and Thomas could probably care less as long as they get what they want out of Walter.
It`s just all too obvious that Brooke didn`t do it and that she is being set up, she was stunned into silence when Ridge asked her whether she was responsible. She was annoyed that he thought she might do such a thing.
Oh for goodness sake Steffy leave it alone! Your mother is a grown woman, do you really have such a low opinion of her that you believe she`s incapable of thinking for herself? You`re insulting her with this behaviour. Concentrate on your own marriage, (I mean your husband is just back from the dead) and leave your parents to sort their own lives out. Personally I would like to see Brooke leave Ridge and move on with someone decent, but it doesn`t look like that`s going to happen, which is really disappointing. It is difficult for Brooke to not be concerned about Douglas when the initial abuse took place in her home and for a long time it was missed by everyone living there, including Ridge. During this time Ridge was doing just what he`s doing now, defending Thomas. It shows how devious and horribly sly Thomas actually is, just like now, how he`s trying to set Brooke up to ruin his fathers marriage. It`s beyond me how you can all be so blind and defend a man who is clearly up to his old tricks and he doesn`t have a brain tumor now, so what`s his excuse this time? Oh yes, he doesn`t have one, he`s just diabolically horrible.
There are some spoilers (which I know I shouldn't read because people often make stuff up) suggesting there will be some encounter between Brooke and Bill in Aspen... So not all hope is dead there ❤️ every time I see him I have the hope. They belong together. Although I like Li too, just with history I root for Brooke and Bill reuniting.
@M Brooke & Bill are perfect for each other, they do have a lot in common. Even though Katie doesn't want Bill anymore will see be okay and accepting Bill being with Brooke in the future?
Puh that's what I've been wondering too. I hope she does. It was too bad they didn't give Katie a chance with Thorne, it looked promising for a second there. I read also that in Aspen Ridge will make his "final" choice. I hope it's Taylor even after the set up becomes clear. Would give Brooke the kick to finally kick him. And Taylor will be happy. And Steffy will shut up. And we'll sigh a sigh of relief from the waffling ending (for now) ๐๐ง
@M Steffy will hopefully get what she wants, and if her wish comes true, I wouldn't be surprised, if she rubs it in Hope's face, and her family will be celebrating. ๐
Maur, I totally agree with you. I could see this coming for a country mile! Didn't anyone notice how robotic "Brooke's" voice sounded on that call?! That was not really her people! Use your intuition and soap knowledge.
For what it's worth Maur, I'm with you!...you're good, I like your input even though it's an opinion we should all be able to have one...this is how a blog should be...none of those personal attacks, please!
Even though I'm not a fan of Bill, I like the possibility of him and Brooke hooking up...they do make a great couple, that would really be a slap in Ridge's face (he got it coming)...I'm not a Li fan, her acting for one is boring and she doesn't exactly come off as sexually appealing to me...just voicing my opinion....
@Truth: I feel the same. Also Li is too new and we don't have an emotional connection to her. Why would we care who she's with. For Brooke on the other hand, there's a lot of history with Bill, esp in Aspen. I so so hope he becomes the Bill we love and hate and goes with determination after her. That's what sets him apart to me from any other man on this show. Ridge is like an amoeba compared to him when it comes to character.
That was Thomas doing that recording with Douglas app on the phone once again the truth will come out and he made a mistake cause the recording said brook Logan not Brook forrester , so Thomas it’s all gonna come out like it always does I bet ridge will find out by Douglas on his ph app can’t wait till that happens
Brooke has always gone by Brooke Logan not Forrester, Spencer, Marone, or the other numerous surnames of ex husbands in her harem. She always uses Logan!
Taylor's tired? Brooke is the one who should be tired, tired of Ridge refusing to let his children and ex-wife know not to disrespect his wife and to hold them accountable when they do. He needs to let them know that if they love him, as they claim to, they'll respect his choices, or he'll have to take a step back from them. Simple as that. Decades of this nonsense!
Yeah it's way too convenient that Thomas remembered the guy who used to work at Forrester and now works at CPS. Thomas had it all planned out with the voice app thing. If Brooke had actually called, she would have said she wanted to remain anonymous. You can do that.
Yes, for sure it’s diabolical Thomas. Oh yeah, he’s the new and improved Thomas - NOT!!!! He is not fit to be a father or anything else for that matter. When this all comes out - and it may take months - Ridge will give Thomas a little slap on the wrist like he always does. Brooke has every right to despise Thomas and NOT trust him!!! Brooke’s instincts as well as Liam’s are dead on!! Hope is way too trusting. I don’t like the naive quality that Hope continues to have. And yes, I give Taylor props for finally saying she didn’t want to be a consolation prize. The sad thing is, she’s still gonna be. And Ridge will dump Taylor and get back with Brooke once he realizes Thomas was behind all this!! That outfit Steffy was wearing is horrible!
@Lynn: Hope is pacifistic. It's in her nature (at least since that actress got the role). She doesn't haunt people and actually wants them to get along. Not like Steffy. Of course Thomas is pushing it. Even if he's not diabolical or again going down the road of insanity, he's not right to keep the boy so long like that. Yes he is his and I am all for him having him and finally stepping up (again if it turns out he's stable, which is not sure), but monopolizing him for weeks without prior agreement with his adoptive Mom and having her go through this is awful in itself.
@ M - you are right, Hope is a pacifist. Sometimes I wish she would defend herself and her family a little more forcefully though. Steffy is such a wrecking ball, it just frustrates me to see her walk all over Hope. But on the other hand, I do admire Hope’s rational, calm demeanor most of the time.
Yessssss Taylor!!! Leave Ridge alone! If he cannot make up his mind, then move on. Now watch Ridge run after her. Hope she stands her ground!
In addition to Douglas, I also think that Brooke could be in on this CPS business somehow. She was very adamant yesterday about doing whatever it takes to ensure Douglas' safety and she is purposely going after Thomas.
Elle, I am sooo happy the writers are now having Taylor to have more self respect.. She was Never, and WILL never b a home wrecker.. Like she said, that’s Brooke’s karma!!
Well not if the spoilers are even remotely correct, it`s not, because Brooke goes to Aspen to tell them that she found out who actually phoned CPS, because she found out who the culprit is. You watch Ridge will do his jealous act with Brooke the moment he sets eyes on Bill. He will do it right under Taylors nose. I would really love it if Brooke tells him to get lost and walks away with Bill. Then Taylor can be the consolation prize she always is and Brooke will be with a man with a back bone.
Yes that will be how it plays out. Ridge will be back after Brooke time and time again. It's our destiny ๐ to watch that. But I read they all find themselves in Aspen and things happen. Brooke for sure to set the CPS record straight.
Exactly @Valinda! I guess there are a bunch of HOEgan clones in this thread that act like her in real life since they make every excuse under the sun for her character, smh. They keep repeating how unhinged Thomas is, but they conveniently forget how unstable Rick was. But I guess it was ok for Rick to be crazy since he's a Logan.
Personally thought it was Steffy who made the call but used Brookes name but no it's Thomas. You know agents would not get there that quickly. They wouldn't come without police since a weapon was involved.
This is too obvious they are sending Thomas back to the bad side. How did Thomas know immediately where the guy work to contact him and was so adamant that his father call him? 2 if Brooke give her name why would she lie to Ridge knowing he can get to that information? 3 the look on Thomas face said mission accomplished!This damn writer is so predictable!
Also only Ridge ,Thomas and Brooke knew that Brooke said about CPS . Neither did Brooke mention her conversation with Ridge to anyone else. So Thomas it my number 1 bet , then Steffy
@Colly after today episode my bet is definitely Thomas ! Because Steffy is clueless on what happening with CPS. Ridge told Thomas and Thomas took that as his slam dunk.
Hey everyone I know you don't see me making comments here but I'm always here enjoying the conversation. This is my first comment on the soaps. I just want to say have either of you considered that it could be Stephen if that's how you spelll her name or her Morher. That would be my guess if it isn't Thomas :-)
Hi Donna, no I don’t think it would be Steffy or her mother Taylor, because neither of them know that brook threatened to call CPS.. Ridge only told Thomas that.. And I don’t think they would put Thomas in that situation.. But , with soaps, you never know!! ๐
Donna I was thinking Steffy as a suspect too but , I am leading towards Thomas after today's episode. Because Brooke wouldn't be that stupid to call right after making the call , neither would she leave her name . And the same way she told Ridge she wouldn't hesitate to call she wouldn't hesitate to say yes she called because he wasn't gonna do anything.
Dezzi I also believe Thomas did it for the same reason you are saying. He was the first one I suspected but I had to have a back up. I don't think Brook would have left her name most of all using her maiden name. Hopefully they want dragging this on it's a possibility that his son could have. Can't wait to see WHO!!! :-)
I don't think she'll be the victim for much long. She'll set it straight. But let's see how. And how she'll figure it out. It's always the question. And I hope it's soon. No more dragging out please!!!
I hope Caroline reappears and I am praying Finn turn out to be Brooke baby and Douglas Ridge son and Kelly bill ohh boy what drama that would be ๐ ๐คฃ...the writer need to make it worth it!
What if Doulas made the call because he overheard Brooke and Thomas arguing and maybe saw some signs of his dad tripping but afraid to tell his dad he want to go back .
Oh, Thomas. What have you done now? You know your shenanigans are going to be found out. But at least we finally know what all the clumsy foreshadowing with the voice simulator was leading up to.
ReplyDeleteWow, I don't understand why the writers would make it look like Thomas is getting better only to put him down again. They should start picking on someone else for a change.
ReplyDeleteWe don't know that Thomas is the culprit. Someone can be trying to make it look like it is him.
DeleteSoh, it’s because the writers favour the Logan’s.. simple..
DeleteElle, I hope you are right that someone is trying to make it look like it is him.
DeleteColly, 100% agreed with your comment.
Im hoping that someone isnt trying to set thomas up th be the culprit that called cps..i wouldnt put it past brook or liam either one .. as much as they hate him due to their jelly issues over taylor thom steffy and ridge
DeleteHas anyone thought ofpossibly shiela aรฑd she set it up to seem like it was brook as a way to yet again attack brook
Delete@pammy Then that would make it about Brooke. Haven't we had enough storylines about Brooke being a victim?
DeleteThomas didn’t even know about the app! If he did it’s a very good fake. It’s daft though because a voice sym wouldn’t capture the inflection etc ๐๐. Brooke hates Thomas enough I could see her doing it and lying to Ridge about it.
ReplyDeleteShe’s so ridiculous… a crazy man with a knife… keep forgetting he was cutting a bloody apple part lol
@BBfan101 How many times has Brooke said she loves Ridge, and has said to people that she would never lie to Ridge? Oh, what was that I heard today, LIE, and now she got BUSTED!
Delete@Elizabeth, you sure? Cause I have the feeling that Thomas called CPS himself, using the voice changing app to frame Brooke. So personally I think that the one lying and manipulating today was Thomas
Delete@ Valentina Here's how I see it, yesterday, Did Brooke not say that she would do anything to protect Douglas, even calling the CPS to Ridge? Didn't Ridge, today, start thinking about what Brooke had told him recently? Now, you mentioned about the voice app, so I guess we will find out tomorrow if that was Brooke's real voice or not. Also, didn't Brooke have her phone in her hand when she came back into the room @ Forrester's, where Hope and Liam were talking to get her purse?
Delete@Valentina Thomas does not know about the app. It is on Douglas' phone. And since Thomas was not at home when CPS showed up, it means that he could not have possibly used the app to call them. If the app was used, then it had to be someone who was already at the mansion and had access to Douglas' phone.
DeleteThomas definitely made the call. I'd be willing to bet one of my toes๐๐ฆถ
DeleteEveryone I know has their phone in their hand all the time. That is not proof that Brooke made the call. I'm telling you all, IT WAS THOMAS, no question
DeleteAlso, Thomas probably has the same app on his phone. It's stupid to assume that Douglas is the only person alive with that phone app. Come on guys, y'all are really playing dumb about this. I promise, it was Thomas
DeleteHilary, this is a soap opera. Real life does not apply. There is a reason they showed Douglas explaining the app to Eric then we hear nothing of it again until today. I do not believe that Thomas is the culprit. They are just making it look like it is him.
DeleteUh, I know it's a soap opera, and I also know Douglas showed Eric the app
DeleteEric is an old man who probably doesn't use fun phone apps. They pointed out the app so we would be familiar with it. I understand all that. Not sure why you think you need to explain that to me
Can you move on from the knife already...also, anything is possible, Taylor's a psychologist and she's crossed legal boundaries with her unethical behavior...seems strange Thomas, her son was her patient...she's as crazy as he is...but again it is a soap...don't get me started on Steffy..."the pot calling the kettle black"...let's see she seduced Liam (Hope's fiance') married his brother Wyatt than had an affair with her father in law...married Liam again because she dropped the baby bomb...last but not least now married to Finn...this is the women that criticizes Brooke? I'm waiting for the episode that Hayes is not Finn's son...not impossible, its a soap!
Delete@Truth, Thomas was never Taylor’s patient.. She is his mother who helped him through a tough time in his life, as any mother does, but she just happens to be a psychiatrist by trade, so it’s easy to assume she took him on as a patient, but at no stage was it said that she had him as a patient.. So no, she did not break any ethical laws.. She was a mother helping her child, just like she helps any of her loved ones and people she cares about.. In regards to the knife, I think you need to tell brook that ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
DeleteHilary, I think that app is more for kids, not sure if adults would download?? But it’s looking to obvious that either brook or Thomas called them.. So maybe, just maybe, Douglas wants to stay with his dad and he could have overheard things from when Liam and Thomas talking, or Thomas and hope or anyones conversations.. Douglas is a pretty smart kid.. The way he handled the people from CPS, he is more mature than people give him credit for?? But we will eventually find out at some stage??
Sorry Colly, i must have missed the part where he got professional help for his mental issues...so who was his psychiatrist? It sounds like you know he had professional help, my bad...do you have a name because all I remember is how his mother was helping him through it all...my guess is he never got the professional help he desperately needed...correct me if I'm wrong...
DeleteTruth, I think you missed my point, his mother helped him, but she did not take him on as a patient, he was not put on her books, or paid for sessions.. She helped on a personal mother helping someone son.. sorry, I should have explained it better, my bad..
DeleteHelping *her son..
DeleteOr perhaps a better example would be, when my children are sick and unwell, I take care of them, just like any mother does their kids when they are unwell, but I am also a practitioner, and as far as I am aware, I have not broken any laws or been unethical in any way.. There is no law to say I “can’t” care for my children just because I happen to be a practitioner..
Delete@Hilary don't bet them little piggies on Thomas, please ๐ I wouldn't bet mine even that it's not Brooke! Who knows what those writers could come up with and justify then where we sit and are all WTF?! ๐
DeleteDouglas is a minor. If Thomas does not know what apps are on Douglas' phone, then he is not a very attentive father. On the phone recording, the person calls herself Brooke Logan. Brooke goes by Forrester, so if it was really Brooke, she would have said Brooke Forrester. Thomas and Steffy hate Brooke and do not consider Brooke a Forrester even though Brooke is married to Ridge. It seems more likely that Thomas would have said Brooke Logan than Brooke. I think that there is some reason they showed the phone app otherwise it would have been just wasted filler time.
DeleteBrooke does NOT go by Brooke Forrester she uses Brooke Logan as she always have no matter who she’s been married to.
DeletePoint taken Colly...every mother should offer the support to their children and advice, I'm sure you're exactly that person...I'm a parent, but if I see a child of mine needing professional help mentally I would definitely find a professional suited for that kind of attention...in my opinion Thomas is beyond Taylor's help...sick or unwell is not the same as getting my child a psychiatrist...that is my point that you missed...again my question, did he get any professional (psychiatrist) help in any of the past episodes?
DeleteTruth, I get your point also, I can’t remember if he got professional help from anyone else, as they didn’t state or show that.. perhaps not.. But, despite what people on this blog think of Taylor’s skills as a psychiatrist, on the show, she is portrayed as a “world renowned” psychiatrist, so she is portrayed as one of the best in the world..
Deleteagain, dismissing what people on here think, and that is on the writers and the way they are portraying her since she returned.. however, as of this week, they seem to be getting better at attempting to portray her as such.. But Thomas is an adult, and knew he needed help, and there is a lot of conversations supposed to have happened off screen.. but, wether or not he chose to or maybe did get help elsewhere, is irrelevant, because it has not been said that she treated him as a paid psychiatrist on her books.. Only as his mother who was there for him and helped him through his issues as any other psychiatrist would.. If she “world renowned”, why would he need to see anyone else.. so if Thomas has changed, then her help would have been sufficient due to her reputation at what she does.. If my kids needed surgery, which I am not equipped to do, of course I would take them to whomever can help them with their needs.. But, I am not breaking any laws by treating them as a mother because I am a practitioner.. so it would be the same with Taylor and Thomas.. And there is no solid proof that he hasn’t changed.. Just because he looked at a photo and reminisced, does not mean he is up to his old tricks.. All he has done since he got well, is good things.. Stepping up to be a good father to Douglas, and he could have had his chance with Hope when Liam went to prison, and Liam even gave Thomas his wishes to be there for her and the kids.. But what did Thomas do?? He found out about Bonnie and got Liam out of prison and back home to Hope and the kids.. In soap time, it’s been years since he had his operation on his brain, so it’s unfair to say he hasn’t changed..
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DeleteTruth you are talking about wayyyy back for Steffy. Brooke has done the same things over and over and also slept with sons and brothers in law too!!!
DeleteLiam loves Steffy, he married her 3 times and not because he had to!
FYI Hope has broken off her engagement because everything wasn’t perfect in her princess world. So once her engagement is off she has NO say over who her ex marries afterwards. Her changing her mind and wanting him back doesn’t entitle her to have that! Liam got tired of her immature childish demands and games. Hope was a teenager who desperately wanted to get married and her mum was pushing that… why??? She should have been thinking about University and a career etc.
She just wanted her Prince Charming to take care of her and she live in another palace the rest of her life or just stay with mummy and play house in the cabin for forever.
The fact Brooke started out trying to break up Ridge’s engagement to Caroline and then their marriage. Then his marriage to Taylor yet Logan fans rattle on about destiny ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ.
We are all supposed to forget Brooke’s past and the fact that Hope slept with Liam how many times while he was married to Steffy over the years and got pregnant with Beth while they were married too. Or how Hope was. married to Wyatt and Liam and sleeping with both brothers at the same time! She hasn’t been an angel here.
Yet Steffy is called every nasty name in the book. That’s hypocritical!
Colly I agree. Just like Steffy had her rehab off screen for months in Soapy time.
DeleteWe don’t see everything that happens , it gets referenced. Thomas has mentioned more than once getting the help he needed. We just didn’t see it. He thanked his mother for believing in him and supporting his recovery. I think viewers mistake that for him not getting treatment. He had a brain tumour come on.
Exactly Bfan.. People seem to forget very easily that he had a medical condition.. it really annoyed when Brooke brought up the mannequin gate to both Thomas and Hope, and neither Thomas or Hope set her straight that he collapsed and had to have surgery after Hope got worried about what Finn said.. They keep acting like that was just him being crazy.. Hope went to check on home and he collapsed, rushed to hospital and had major brain surgery.. Brooke conveniently forgets that!!
Delete@BBfan. Like Elle was saying there was only Eric and Douglas that knew of the app. I don't think Douglas is articulate enough if you listen to the wording. Maybe Thomas was show the app by Douglas, we just didn't see that in the show. It will be interesting to find out. Now how is Ridge going to tell Brooke he knows it was her? He can't say he heard the call.
ReplyDelete@D I think it is building up to make it look like it's Thomas who did it however, I do not believe for a second it was him. I still think it was Douglas.
DeleteYou guys don't know that Thomas doesn't know about the app! That is ridiculous speculation. He probably put the app on Douglas's phone for all we know! Not everything happens on camera.
Delete@Elle I don't think it is really Thomas and there will be a twist to this. I'm just not sure it's Douglas either. I'm not into all these apps that are around but if a 7 yr old (not sure of his age) knows of it then so will alot of people.
DeleteBy your logic, then Brooke is just as guilty. She left the office then returned with her phone in her hand and stated that she will do whatever it takes to ensure Douglas' safety. She could have made the call off screen.
Delete@D I don't think it is Thomas either although many on this board are hoping that it will turn out to be him.
DeleteIt's true that anyone can have the app on their phone but this is soapworld we are talking about. They purposely showed Douglas explaining the app to Eric, I believe, to show how well acquainted he is with it. When he showed it to Eric, he told him that he had recorded Donna's voice. Douglas was in the house when Brooke and Thomas were going at it and had the opportunity to record her voice. Thomas did not have the same opportunity since all he had in his hand was a knife and an apple, so he could not have recorded Brooke's voice.
Hello, the call definitely happened off screen!! We didn't see it did we? You don't have a point, you just want to argue.
DeleteHere’s a thought, Donna has been looking after Douglas, maybe Doug showed her the app and she did it ๐คฃ๐คฃ but seriously, I have had a feeling for a while that Douglas might use the app like Elle said? Time will tell?? If it is Thomas, then all I can say is brooks constant attacks and demands and trying to make him look unfit to father Doug all for own agenda, who would blame him!! It’s not right, that’s not what I am saying.. but, she is relentless and Thomas knows she will stop at nothing, so she is driving him to act out.. and it’s not like she hasn’t done even shadier things than that.. faking pregnancy’s and misscarages to hold on to ridge, yeah that’s not shady at all!!
DeleteHilary, they know it was Thomas. It’s just so much more rewarding for them to blame Brooke. Old habits die hard! ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
DeleteWhen this comes out - and that could take a long time, Ridge better be absolutely furious with Thomas!! There better be serious repercussions! I’m so sick of Thomas never getting in trouble for anything he does!!!
@Hillary Elle does have a point and I don't think she wants to argue. That's her opinion.
DeleteYes Elle, that is a very good point!! Thomas has not been around brook for a very long time till that day, and he had the pocket knife and apple in his hand pretty much the whole time, his phone was nowhere to be seen or him picking it up.. I definately think Douglas overheard.. Douglas probably picked up when brook said can u use something safer and Thomas said I been cutting apples that way his whole life, no big deal.. the way Doug handled the cps officers, especially when they asked if felt safe, the way he responded.. it’s Douglas!! Both brook and Thomas r too obvious..
DeleteI just went back and listened to the recording a few times, I don’t think it was either Brooke or Thomas, I definitely think it’s Douglas.. when she says he is unstable and has a knife, then says please hurry.. If it were any adult, they would not have said that way.. even if it was Thomas, and he planned for Ridge to hear it, he would have made it a bit more adult like than just he’s unstable and has a knife please hurry.. It would have been more like he has a long history of instability and that she went their to find him using a dangerous knife around Douglas.. Not just, “he has a knife, please hurry”.. that’s a bit too dramatic for even Brooke or Thomas.. ?? And the way Thomas looked when hearing it.. if he knew what was said he would not have had the reaction he did, he would have just kept his focus on Ridge.. It really is a “who done it” ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Delete@Lynn I think it was Thomas also. On the recording, the caller said Brooke Logan. If it was Brooke, I think she would have said Brooke Forrester. Thomas hates Brooke and he and Steffy do not consider Brooke a Forrester. If Ridge finds out that Thomas was the one that called, Ridge should be livid, but knowing Ridge he will just give Thomas a slap on the wrist like he did when he found out that Thomas contributed to Emma's death and stood and watch her die without trying to help. I think that is part of what is wrong with Thomas. He is never held accountable for what he does, it is usually covered up by Ridge and Taylor.
DeleteBrooke doesn’t go by Brooke Forrester she’s always been Brooke Logan!
DeleteGuess my prediction from yesterday was wrong. I thought Liam called CPS, we'll have to wait and see if it really was Brooke or the app.
ReplyDeleteGood for Taylor for showing backbone. I respect her for saying it like it is - back and forth, forever and ever. Steffy should be smart and support her.
ReplyDeleteAgain I'll say it - whoever thinks that Brooke is behind this... must be watching tv for the first time ๐๐ it goes right next to believing Sheila was really mauled by a bear when the police first showed that toe.
Ah Thomas, I'm sure you know right away how to check about a RECORDING of the call... that didn't take long ๐ but yes he's a bit too obvious of a choice.
Liam wouldn't stoop that low. If he called, he would use his voice, wouldn't set Brooke up.
Also Brooke wouldn't say Brooke Logan but Forrester.
PS should go without saying, but - just because WE don't know someone knows about the app (esp around Douglas) doesn't mean they really don't know about it. He's said to have quality time there that potentially includes more conversation than what we're privy to which is 2 mins every 3 days.
DeleteActually Brooke doesn’t use Forrester she uses Logan!
DeleteI was glad to hear Taylor too. She’s making the right decision and no, she’s never been a home wrecker so glad she’s going to keep that part of her character true to history.
DeleteI'm so glad that the writers started to make some better storylines. It had been getting ridiculous the way the writers had made Taylor look like an idiot. I sure hope that the writers have come to their senses and realize their stupidity writing of the past was getting pathetic.
DeleteIt's too bad that they give one good promising scene of hers to get our hopes up and then the whole next week it's the same repetitive annoying crap. At least to me.
Delete@M I totally agree
DeleteSometimes I feel like the writers take what we say and implement into the show. There was so much outrage about the way they were writing Taylor to be a homewrecker when she never was and how she was never one to run behind Ridge. Now, here they have her saying the same things. I'm happy about that.
Delete@M I think if the writers intend on having Thomas revert to his old ways, they would actually show his downward spiral on screen. They showed him practicing restraint when he was looking at the picture of Hope on his phone. Why would they do that but then off-screen have him install an app on his phone? Also, they went to lengths to redeem the character by explaining his behaviour as head trauma. If he reverts to his old behaviour, how would they explain that?
They don't have to explain it. We're talking about the same writers who conveniently forget half the shows history, and 2/3 of the show's characters! A lot of stuff is apparently supposed to be happening off screen. We just get to see the same stupid repetitive shit day after day ๐
Delete@Hilary exactly. They do do inexplicable things also in hopes of surprising us. Nobody saw the Finn being alive thing coming or Sheila doing the bear thing. @Elle: they do try to change it up (which is sometimes good, sometimes not so ๐). To me Thomas is too direct a suspect. Steffy on the other hand... ๐ could totally be in on it without us knowing. Remember how determined she was telling Thomas that now they must act to put them back together. Of course they couldn't predict Brooke saying about CPS but could have made the plan after. To me Charlie plays some role. Even if he isn't the mastermind.
DeleteI have a really nagging feeling it’s Douglas.. he is a very smart kid.. I think he wants to stay with Thomas.. the way he handled the cps officers, he’s way more mature than his age.. Thomas and brook are to obvious..
Delete@Hilary exactly. They do try to surprise, sometimes it works (like the Finn survival), sometimes it's laughable. @Elle: the point here is to create a mystery where many people are suspects. We don't get to see it all. It could as well be Steffy who at that point urged Thomas they have to act now. We will get to see what we didn't see when there is a confession. My guess is someone overheard Brooke saying about CPS or when Ridge was telling that she said it (wasn't that around when Charlie appeared out of the blue to annoy us? I can't be bothered to rewatch.)
Delete@Colly: I was thinking it too but calling actual CPS and saying it the way it was said... Seems a bit far-fetched. Not implausible though, weirder things have happened on the show. But maybe Charlie helped him. I definitely think there was at least an involvement from a grownup.
DeleteM, I think it’s like Elle said, and what I also think from a couple things, Douglas is very smart and intuitive.. I think he picked up the tension with brook and Thomas, and he heard brook say to Thomas couldn’t you use something safer and Thomas tell her it’s no big deal.. then Thomas told Douglas to go to Donna.. I think Douglas was listening in on their conversation.. and took that opportunity to record brooks voice.. Thomas did not touch his phone while she was there to be able to record her voice.. add to that, Thomas has not seen brook, as far as we can tell, for a very long time to b able to record her voice.. and further to that, both brook and Thomas have both been shown by the writers to be too obvious a choice.. I think Douglas wants to stay with his dad but knows the Logan’s call the shots..
DeleteAlso M, the recording was not what you would expect an adult to say.. if u listen to it, it just didn’t come off as what an adult would.. if it was Thomas , I would have expected much more from that recording??
DeleteI don't think it's Thomas also for many reasons. But also not Douglas alone, if it is him alone, he's taken after his father in scary ways, the student (even though not directly taught) becomes the master ๐
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Delete@Elle: did they present Taylor as home wrecker? I myself wouldn't blame her of that. Yes she kissed the man but it was mutual and she even apologized for it to Brooke. That was when I said hats off to new Taylor. If anyone is trying to wreck that marriage, it's Steffy. I think her fans should be outraged, also for the mind-numbing dialogue this poor beautiful actress is forced to repeat.
M, I wouldn’t go that far to say that.. As mature as he is, he is still a kid, who has pretty much been kept away from his dad 95% of the time for years now.. And the reason Thomas is stepping up, is because Doug stressed about wether Thomas really loves and misses him when they are together.. He knows he has to go back to Hopes , because the Logan’s have been calling all the shots for years now, and he doesn’t want to.. Also, it baffles me how Brooke says nobody gets well that quickly.. It’s been years now that Douglas has been with Hope.. They brought a new kid in to highlight that.. It’s not been a couple months as some might believe.. I think that was the point they were making when they brought in the new actor.. If Douglas has overheard things, he might have done it so, in the case Brooke and Hope try to claim Thomas is unfit, then they can say cps has deemed otherwise , which helps Thomas’s case.. The way Douglas handled the officers, especially when they asked if he felt safe, and about the homework.. if u rewatch it you see what I mean.. But in any case , even if it was Douglas, it’s a far stretch to say he is a mini Thomas.. Kids these days are a lot smarter than we know, but at the same time just kids..
DeleteI mean what was said to CPS is way too dark for an undisturbed child. Maybe I'm looking at it too much through the lense of real life but I would be worried a lot if he was mine and I found out his mind can work like that - set up grandma like that via CPS, find their contacts, interact like that with them. And the goal of it - to break up grandpa and grandma? Because where his custody is concerned, this incident doesn't make much difference. If anything, it could hurt Thomas (esp from a healthy child perspective, officials coming to determine him fit or not - can go either way, but in no way grant him more time with Thomas)
DeleteIf he wanted to secure more time with Thomas where CPS is concerned (and I don't believe they would have a say unless there is a legal battle), he could have said that he prefers to be there. It makes no sense him doing all that or at least not all alone.
Delete@Colly It's true that Douglas has been with Hope for years based on the older version of Douglas that is on the show now.
Delete@M Given the above, Douglas would have been around Hope, Liam and Brooke for several years and could have easily been influenced during that time. As a matter of fact, most, if not all the adults around Douglas have done some kind of dirt that they are not proud of which caused them to be a bad example to Douglas.
So the writers are going to continue the recycled stories all over again. I guess it's time for another B&B break. I'll hopefully come back to a better storyline.
ReplyDeleteBrooke is not fit to be a grandma.its a shame the way she done Thomas and Douglas.Then lie and say she didn't do it.Haha bet Taylor has Ridge.k
ReplyDeleteBrooke she has already threatened to call.Her voice was right there on the message Put her in jail Thomas.
ReplyDeleteHow can Thomas put Brooke in jail if Brooke believed that Douglas was in danger and called CPS? You are supposed to be allowed to call anonymously if you believe a child is in danger, you do not need proof. Thomas and Ridge can cause Walter to lose his license for telling them who called. If they use this info against Brooke in any way, Walter can lose his license. Of course, Ridge and Thomas could probably care less as long as they get what they want out of Walter.
DeleteIt`s just all too obvious that Brooke didn`t do it and that she is being set up, she was stunned into silence when Ridge asked her whether she was responsible. She was annoyed that he thought she might do such a thing.
ReplyDeleteOh for goodness sake Steffy leave it alone! Your mother is a grown woman, do you really have such a low opinion of her that you believe she`s incapable of thinking for herself? You`re insulting her with this behaviour. Concentrate on your own marriage, (I mean your husband is just back from the dead) and leave your parents to sort their own lives out.
Personally I would like to see Brooke leave Ridge and move on with someone decent, but it doesn`t look like that`s going to happen, which is really disappointing.
It is difficult for Brooke to not be concerned about Douglas when the initial abuse took place in her home and for a long time it was missed by everyone living there, including Ridge. During this time Ridge was doing just what he`s doing now, defending Thomas. It shows how devious and horribly sly Thomas actually is, just like now, how he`s trying to set Brooke up to ruin his fathers marriage.
It`s beyond me how you can all be so blind and defend a man who is clearly up to his old tricks and he doesn`t have a brain tumor now, so what`s his excuse this time? Oh yes, he doesn`t have one, he`s just diabolically horrible.
There are some spoilers (which I know I shouldn't read because people often make stuff up) suggesting there will be some encounter between Brooke and Bill in Aspen... So not all hope is dead there ❤️ every time I see him I have the hope. They belong together.
DeleteAlthough I like Li too, just with history I root for Brooke and Bill reuniting.
@M Brooke & Bill are perfect for each other, they do have a lot in common. Even though Katie doesn't want Bill anymore will see be okay and accepting Bill being with Brooke in the future?
DeletePuh that's what I've been wondering too. I hope she does. It was too bad they didn't give Katie a chance with Thorne, it looked promising for a second there. I read also that in Aspen Ridge will make his "final" choice. I hope it's Taylor even after the set up becomes clear. Would give Brooke the kick to finally kick him. And Taylor will be happy. And Steffy will shut up. And we'll sigh a sigh of relief from the waffling ending (for now) ๐๐ง
Delete@M Steffy will hopefully get what she wants, and if her wish comes true, I wouldn't be surprised, if she rubs it in Hope's face, and her family will be celebrating. ๐
DeleteAh for sure she will! But Hope shouldn't care if her mom is happy with Bill. And she and Steffy aren't wrangling over the same man, that's a win!
DeleteI still think Bill and Li would be good together. Brooke just uses Bill then throws him away again.
DeleteMaur, I totally agree with you. I could see this coming for a country mile! Didn't anyone notice how robotic "Brooke's" voice sounded on that call?! That was not really her people! Use your intuition and soap knowledge.
DeleteFor what it's worth Maur, I'm with you!...you're good, I like your input even though it's an opinion we should all be able to have one...this is how a blog should be...none of those personal attacks, please!
DeleteEven though I'm not a fan of Bill, I like the possibility of him and Brooke hooking up...they do make a great couple, that would really be a slap in Ridge's face (he got it coming)...I'm not a Li fan, her acting for one is boring and she doesn't exactly come off as sexually appealing to me...just voicing my opinion....
Delete@Truth: I feel the same. Also Li is too new and we don't have an emotional connection to her. Why would we care who she's with. For Brooke on the other hand, there's a lot of history with Bill, esp in Aspen. I so so hope he becomes the Bill we love and hate and goes with determination after her. That's what sets him apart to me from any other man on this show. Ridge is like an amoeba compared to him when it comes to character.
DeleteThat was Thomas doing that recording with Douglas app on the phone once again the truth will come out and he made a mistake cause the recording said brook Logan not Brook forrester , so Thomas it’s all gonna come out like it always does I bet ridge will find out by Douglas on his ph app can’t wait till that happens
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking that if Thomas really made the call, he would know whether Brooke goes by Logan or Forrester and would not make such a silly mistake.
DeleteThat said, I do not think the name, Brooke Logan, would prove to be the proverbial smoking gun in any case.
Exactly my point. That's why I think it involves Charlie or someone else who sees the name Logan as an insult ๐
DeleteThomas is the guy that did it that’s why he said Brook Logan he didn’t want Brook to be a forrester smart arse he is
DeleteBrooke has always gone by Brooke Logan not Forrester, Spencer, Marone, or the other numerous surnames of ex husbands in her harem. She always uses Logan!
DeleteTaylor's tired? Brooke is the one who should be tired, tired of Ridge refusing to let his children and ex-wife know not to disrespect his wife and to hold them accountable when they do. He needs to let them know that if they love him, as they claim to, they'll respect his choices, or he'll have to take a step back from them. Simple as that. Decades of this nonsense!
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DeleteYeah it's way too convenient that Thomas remembered the guy who used to work at Forrester and now works at CPS. Thomas had it all planned out with the voice app thing. If Brooke had actually called, she would have said she wanted to remain anonymous. You can do that.
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DeleteI think the guy from CPS is in on it with Thomas....as usual Ridge has his head up his ____!
Delete@Forever 36, totally agree! He’s paying that guy off.
DeleteYes, for sure it’s diabolical Thomas. Oh yeah, he’s the new and improved Thomas - NOT!!!! He is not fit to be a father or anything else for that matter. When this all comes out - and it may take months - Ridge will give Thomas a little slap on the wrist like he always does. Brooke has every right to despise Thomas and NOT trust him!!! Brooke’s instincts as well as Liam’s are dead on!!
ReplyDeleteHope is way too trusting. I don’t like the naive quality that Hope continues to have.
And yes, I give Taylor props for finally saying she didn’t want to be a consolation prize. The sad thing is, she’s still gonna be. And Ridge will dump Taylor and get back with Brooke once he realizes Thomas was behind all this!!
That outfit Steffy was wearing is horrible!
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DeleteYes Lynn, it's Thomas. Even if by some miracle it wasn't Thomas, it definitely wasn't Brooke. We know that for sure
Delete@Lynn: Hope is pacifistic. It's in her nature (at least since that actress got the role). She doesn't haunt people and actually wants them to get along. Not like Steffy. Of course Thomas is pushing it. Even if he's not diabolical or again going down the road of insanity, he's not right to keep the boy so long like that. Yes he is his and I am all for him having him and finally stepping up (again if it turns out he's stable, which is not sure), but monopolizing him for weeks without prior agreement with his adoptive Mom and having her go through this is awful in itself.
Delete@ M - you are right, Hope is a pacifist. Sometimes I wish she would defend herself and her family a little more forcefully though. Steffy is such a wrecking ball, it just frustrates me to see her walk all over Hope. But on the other hand, I do admire Hope’s rational, calm demeanor most of the time.
DeleteMy dad and my aunt worked for social services and CPS. They would never tell who made a call, NEVER
ReplyDeleteAnd for sure don't have the cases on their phone I assume, ready to be read. Indeed that guy was fishy. He could be in on it.
DeleteYessssss Taylor!!! Leave Ridge alone! If he cannot make up his mind, then move on. Now watch Ridge run after her. Hope she stands her ground!
ReplyDeleteIn addition to Douglas, I also think that Brooke could be in on this CPS business somehow. She was very adamant yesterday about doing whatever it takes to ensure Douglas' safety and she is purposely going after Thomas.
Elle, I am sooo happy the writers are now having Taylor to have more self respect.. She was Never, and WILL never b a home wrecker.. Like she said, that’s Brooke’s karma!!
DeleteStill think it is Brooke
ReplyDeleteThanks Bob xxxx
Well not if the spoilers are even remotely correct, it`s not, because Brooke goes to Aspen to tell them that she found out who actually phoned CPS, because she found out who the culprit is.
ReplyDeleteYou watch Ridge will do his jealous act with Brooke the moment he sets eyes on Bill. He will do it right under Taylors nose. I would really love it if Brooke tells him to get lost and walks away with Bill. Then Taylor can be the consolation prize she always is and Brooke will be with a man with a back bone.
Yes that will be how it plays out. Ridge will be back after Brooke time and time again. It's our destiny ๐ to watch that.
DeleteBut I read they all find themselves in Aspen and things happen. Brooke for sure to set the CPS record straight.
When is this going to happen? Hope it's soon. Can't take another long and drawn out storyline.
DeleteHumm, good comment....that would be great, Brooke dumps Ridge and walks away with Bill...I like that!!
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it be great ๐ฅฐ
DeleteThomas did not call CPS. Twitter reveals who did. You Logan "lovers" will use anything to try and crucify Thomas, Taylor, and Steffy!!!!!! Sad!!
ReplyDeleteI read it involves Steffy ๐ not much better outcome than Thomas.
DeleteWhere do y'all get these spoilers? I'm so wary when reading "spoilers." Oftentimes, it turns out to be just the opinion of the writer.
DeleteExactly @Valinda! I guess there are a bunch of HOEgan clones in this thread that act like her in real life since they make every excuse under the sun for her character, smh. They keep repeating how unhinged Thomas is, but they conveniently forget how unstable Rick was. But I guess it was ok for Rick to be crazy since he's a Logan.
DeleteBrooke has been unhinged and crazy too, she brings up the mannequin, I guess she forgets her own baby doll phase??
DeleteThomas doctored some recordings of Brooke. The agents were hired actors. Walter is keeping a big payday
ReplyDeleteOh I like that theory!! Hope it's that!
DeletePersonally thought it was Steffy who made the call but used Brookes name but no it's Thomas.
ReplyDeleteYou know agents would not get there that quickly. They wouldn't come without police since a weapon was involved.
This is too obvious they are sending Thomas back to the bad side. How did Thomas know immediately where the guy work to contact him and was so adamant that his father call him? 2 if Brooke give her name why would she lie to Ridge knowing he can get to that information? 3 the look on Thomas face said mission accomplished!This damn writer is so predictable!
ReplyDeleteAlso only Ridge ,Thomas and Brooke knew that Brooke said about CPS . Neither did Brooke mention her conversation with Ridge to anyone else. So Thomas it my number 1 bet , then Steffy
ReplyDeleteDezzi, steffy didn’t know the threat brook made, Thomas found that out from ridge at the office after he spoke to Taylor..
Delete@Colly after today episode my bet is definitely Thomas ! Because Steffy is clueless on what happening with CPS. Ridge told Thomas and Thomas took that as his slam dunk.
DeleteHey everyone I know you don't see me making comments here but I'm always here enjoying the conversation. This is my first comment on the soaps. I just want to say have either of you considered that it could be Stephen if that's how you spelll her name or her Morher. That would be my guess if it isn't Thomas :-)
ReplyDeleteHi Donna, no I don’t think it would be Steffy or her mother Taylor, because neither of them know that brook threatened to call CPS.. Ridge only told Thomas that.. And I don’t think they would put Thomas in that situation.. But , with soaps, you never know!! ๐
DeleteHi Colly thank you for replying, ok... I guess we'll find out very soon:-)
DeleteDonna I was thinking Steffy as a suspect too but , I am leading towards Thomas after today's episode. Because Brooke wouldn't be that stupid to call right after making the call , neither would she leave her name . And the same way she told Ridge she wouldn't hesitate to call she wouldn't hesitate to say yes she called because he wasn't gonna do anything.
DeleteDezzi I also believe Thomas did it for the same reason you are saying. He was the first one I suspected but I had to have a back up. I don't think Brook would have left her name most of all using her maiden name. Hopefully they want dragging this on it's a possibility that his son could have. Can't wait to see WHO!!! :-)
DeleteBrooke has been married so many times and never stopped using her maiden name. She is proud to be a Logan and still goes by Brooke Logan.
DeleteI love this thread! So many theories and clues ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ
ReplyDelete๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃyes, it is a classic “who done it” !!!
DeleteWell,I think the writers are at it again,making Brooke the victim.I can always know what's going to happen before it does."SAME OLD STORY LINE"๐คฎ
DeleteI don't think she'll be the victim for much long. She'll set it straight. But let's see how. And how she'll figure it out. It's always the question. And I hope it's soon. No more dragging out please!!!
DeleteI hope Caroline reappears and I am praying Finn turn out to be Brooke baby and Douglas Ridge son and Kelly bill ohh boy what drama that would be ๐ ๐คฃ...the writer need to make it worth it!
DeleteThank you bob
ReplyDeleteI think steffy made the call
ReplyDeleteWhat if Doulas made the call because he overheard Brooke and Thomas arguing and maybe saw some signs of his dad tripping but afraid to tell his dad he want to go back .
ReplyDelete@Lynn Just like it's so much more rewarding for you and the other HOEgan fans to blame Thomas and Steffy for everything. Yes, old habits die hard lol.
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