The Bold and the Beautiful 10-23-24 Full episode B&B 23rd October 2024
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Carter..... well, to begin with maybe you should stop trying to represent the ones with pre-existing 'bad blood relationships'!
ReplyDeleteLol. Ikr! Like duh!
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DeleteBrooke and Hope's talk with Will was laughable. Warning him, because he is a dreaded Logan, he will be a target for Steffy. Then to say she might try and say she wants to be friends and put family rivalry to rest, BUT then do a complete 180. Wow Hope, you just seduced her husband. She has good reason not to trust Logans. There was no reason to drag Will into the family drama.
ReplyDeleteCarter has done a complete 180. I don't think he is going to be the loyal family friend they think he is. It sounds like he is planning to take the company over. Hope is all in with his plan, "you can leave a mark on "our" company. Since when is it Logan and Forrester Creations???
Agreed D! I was upset today because it seems like Hope cannot keep Steffy's name out of her mouth. The nerve of her. She tried to seduce Steffy's husband but Steffy is the bad one? I don't usually get upset with Hope but today.... wow! And to add, why would Steffy come gunning for Will? She hired him! Or is Hope so happy to have another Logan at FC that she forgot Will is a Spencer. And Steffy has no beef with any of the Spencers. Geez Hope.
DeleteI don't know what is going on with Carter. I hope he doesn't end up like Justin.
Brava ladies 💯 % spot on!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteI use to like Carter. But know I see a really different side of him and not liking it. As you said Elle he is going down the same rd Justin did. Somebody that can't really be trusted.
DeleteCarter already showed us that side when he had an affair with Quinn! He betrayed his boss and best friend!
DeleteNot that Forrestor is a "professional" company, with all the office romance etc... but Carter's random pitch to Steffy with Ivy present, requesting her to decide there and then is unprofessional. You can run idea through your partners (emphisis on partnerssss -- Ridge and "Brooke") then pitch it formally, but to Ambush her in the office, then get mad she turned you down, is childish in my view.
ReplyDeleteBrooke isn’t a partner, she isn’t even a stockholder. She’s Ridge’s girlfriend and on the executive team because she’s his girlfriend.
DeleteShe has no real power there. Eric and Steffy are the majority shareholders with Ridge and Thomas holding the others between them.
But 💯 agree that Carter was totally unprofessional there! He’s being ruled by his lust for Hope!
Exactly Kae. What did Carter expect? He literally ambushed Steffy with an idea and expected her to say yes? What is going on with him?
DeleteRidge and Steffy are the CoCEOs they are the bosses that Carter answers directly to and should be pitching ideas to!
DeleteRight Elle and suddenly he’s bashing Steffy which he has never done before! If that were true HFTF would never have been rebooted in the first place!
DeleteCarter is acting like a petulant child. He deliberately ambushes Steffy to try and force her hand without following chain of command which is to pitch this Steffy and Ridge!
ReplyDeleteThis sounds like Zende when he was resentful and out to sabotage RJ.
Did you see Hope’s glee? She is pushing Carter to upend the apple cart and push back as much as possible.
For Carter to say there is no business reason to be shutting down HFTF is pure bullocks!
Bell is showing his bias for all things Logan again!
Hope and Brooke doing their best to undermine Steffy’s authority and position with Will is disgusting. She gave him an internship that he hasn’t earned solely because he is Katie’s son!
Those spots are elite and usually filled by promising young designers! Will has no interest in fashion! Yet Steffy gave him the opportunity because Katie asked.
I can see Hope calculating that she and Carter can take over and oust Steffy. Then Hope can drain all the resources she wants without any worries and Queen it over Steffy.
They are forgetting she’s a majority shareholder!
Carter is talking a huge leap here in their business model… he thinks they are House of Gucci, or Chanel or something!
They are not in a financial position to support that at this point. Especially while shoring up a failing line like HFTF!
BBFan, let's hope that Logans running FC is not going to happen again. Look at what happened the last time they tried to run the company.
DeleteIt seems Carter wants to turn the family company into a conglomerate. As COO, surely he knows that's a completely different dynamic. The company shares will have to be offered publicly. The family board meetings will have to become shareholder meetings. You are right. FC is not ready for that kind of transformation right now.
Carter is acting like he has something up his sleeve and now he is angry because Steffy saying no did not fit into his plan. I wonder what is really up with him? I also think his seduction of Hope might have something to do with whatever plan he is cooking up. She might end up being collateral damage.
Elle I agree. Something nefarious is afoot and Carter is the centre of it.
DeleteLogans bankrupted the company and they are still recovering!
Everything Rick did as CEO was petty and completely personal! He nearly ended Forrester!
It is really concerning that Carter has jumped on the illogical bandwagon of Hope and Brooke get any business decision that disagrees with their personal interests is “personal “ and “unprofessional”! Especially with his complete turnaround on HFTF which is worse off than at the meeting where He and Ridge wanted to kill the line!!!
I could see Carter using Hope because he will need Eric on board and Donna will push anything her niece wants and Eric supports Brooke over everything else so going through Hope is a strategy for sure.
DeleteI get the feeling Hope is using Carter too so they will both end damaged if this goes badly.
I don't know if I would say that Hope is using Carter. At least not yet. She refused to sleep with him. However, based on her reflection of him standing up for her line, she is certainly pleased with the fact that he is supportive of keeping HFTF and she will want to ensure that he stays in her corner. Carter, otoh, got this sudden interest in Hope and has been coming on to her really strong and we all thought that his behaviour was odd, especially after his outburst in their last meeting then inviting her over to his apartment to seduce her. This is what has me thinking that something more might be up with him. It's like he's using Hope to accomplish whatever he has up his sleeve.
DeleteCarter, Carter, Carter.... you accuse Steffy of making decisions based on personal feelings yet, that's exactly what you are doing. If Steffy made decisions based on her personal feelings, HFTF would have been long gone.
ReplyDeleteAnd why are Brooke and Hope getting Will involved in company/family drama?
I laughed when Brooke said that Steffy had to be somewhere else because she was talking about BB and Steffy did not roll her eyes once. Lmao!
I never got into RJ and Luna but Will and Electra are adorable. It also helps that they are both stunning when it comes to looks.
Oh, and Ivy. Making this all about Liam. Really? Steffy has long since moved on. Apparently, Ivy has not. There was so much more that Ivy did that Steffy would be upset about than Liam.
DeleteElle brava! 💯% agree 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteTks Bob and have a beautiful weekend 🌹
ReplyDeleteTY Bob have a great day!
ReplyDeleteWay too much over the top drama today. Carter is not acting normal. I wasn’t happy when Steffy was nonstop talking about her distain for the Logans in previous episodes, and I don’t like that Brooke and Hope are doing the same now with the talk of the Forresters. It’s not healthy in either camp.
ReplyDeleteSteffy still looks like the evil queen sitting behind that desk. And Hope is turning into an opportunist when it comes to Carter. Carter is going to end up risking his position at Forrester if he doesn’t dial it down a notch.
The Will and Electra thing was equally as corny. Well at least we know who Will will be pursuing now. Electra looks very, very young. Too young for Will if you ask me.
I said the same thing yesterday, Lynn. That girl looks very young. But next to Will, they look cute. 😍
DeleteAs I said before, and I agree with you, something is off with Carter. I mean, at least they're giving him more of a storyline now and he seems to be moving away from being the Forrester 'yes' boy. But he is taking it too far. It's like he just flipped a switch. There was no build up to whatever this is that we're seeing now.
For sure, Elle….Carter has flipped a switch. And people are going to get suspicious sooner rather than later. If Hope’s line can be jump-started with more advertising, then great. It would be worth the investment if the line could truly bounce back and be a money maker. But clearly, Carter is thinking with his heart, and other things. Lol. And that’s never good when it comes to business. I do believe that Steffy also allows her personal feelings to cloud her judgement. I am not sure why it would be a bad idea to relaunch the jewelry line? Expanding their name recognition to other markets could be great for the company. Steffy seems to want to play it very safe these days, too safe if you ask me. They have all the profits from Brooke’s Bedroom. Why not invest some of those profits into expansion?? I think Carter and Steffy are both letting their emotions cloud their judgement.
DeleteI feel it's maybe because, as she has said a number of times, they keep pouring money into a line that isn't bringing in any revenue and now, here comes Carter asking her to put more money into a new line. I think she would rather welcome a solution to save HFTF as, based on her discussion with Ridge the other day, she doesn't really want to get rid of it. She just doesn't have a choice because the numbers are not improving. Where the jewelry line is concerned, I really don't think she made the decision based on personal reasons, but we will see what comes of it.
DeleteLynn, agree with alot of your comments, except, Steffy's talk was nonstop disdain towards the Logans. What she said was warranted especially after Hope just seducing her husband.
DeleteAnd!!! Maybe because we are getting older, is the reason Electra looks so young. 😀 It was a corny scene with Will. Let's hope she isn't another Luna. Who is her mother?
DeleteElle, I agree to. You can't keep pouring good money into a line when buyers are pulling out and there is no revenue. We don't know what the real numbers are, but Carter was willing to pull the line until all of a sudden interest with hope. So to bring on an extra expense to try and increase the profits for that line is a gamble. He definitely has an ulterior motive.
DeleteD - Steffy’s nonstop hate of the Logans predates Hope’s infatuation with Finn. Steffy has sung the Logan hate song for as long as I can remember.
DeleteD - to me Electra looks like she is about 15 years old. I think Elle or someone else also mentioned that earlier. To me, Will looks to be in his early 20’s. Maybe he isn’t supposed to be that old though since he is just now finishing high school? A 5 year age difference at that young age is a big difference. But he’s probably only supposed to be 18ish. He just looks older.
DeleteI know Steffy's hate towards the Logans predates the seduction of Finn. That's my point. The hatred continues because when she thinks and believes they can put the family rivalry to rest , they prove her wrong. Hope at least, can't be trusted in her eyes right now. The Logans also have sung the hate song for as long as I can remember towards Steffy or any Forrester that stands in their way.
DeleteI don’t think Steffy has ever offered the olive branch to Hope or Brooke. But I have seen Brooke and Hope offer it time and time again.
DeleteSteffy and Ridge just recently brought Forrester back from the brink of bankruptcy. They talked about the strain Eric’s legacy Couture line put on the company and had to pull backing from other lines to support it. They are NOT back on stable enough footing to relaunch the jewellery line and keep propping up HFTF.
DeleteBB is doing very well, but they need it to for its own sake!
Brooke and Hope have NO business sense and think they can borrow indefinitely from other lines to make up for all the losses from Hope’s line.
It’s not just lack of sales, think of the ongoing cost of every employee who works on her line for the cutting room to designers, all the materials, advertising etc.
Carter didn’t give Steffy a proper pitch with all the numbers , designs etc to consider. He literally ambushed her, attempted to pressure her using Electra as guilt etc then chucked a monumental tantrum when she wouldn’t give him his way.
Steffy has taken risks. But unlike others in past she isn’t willing to bankrupt Forrester to make someone happy!
Lynn, Steffy offered the olive branch after she and Finn were married for their daughters’ sake. I remember her and Hope agreeing to try to do better so their children wouldn’t grow up like they did. Actually before that when Hope was pregnant with Beth, Steffy gave Hope her wedding/ engagement ring and told her to be wirh Liam so she could give Kelly a life without all the heartbreak and they agreed to be one big happy blended family.
DeleteHope mouthed the olive leaf recently then acted opposite to that, Brooke did the same. Unfortunately it seems to last while everything goes their way. The second it doesn’t, all bets are off.
I appreciate you calling out Brooke and Hope for their current hate speech about Forresters and dragging Will into drama.
Honestly, any decision now about HFTF won’t be personal at all. However, Hope and Brooke will NEVER believe that because they think the line should go on no matter what.
That is terrible business practice!
This whole Carter thing is beyond the pale, FC is no way ready to become a conglomerate!
💯 BBFan. There's a lot of people and cost behind the scenes.
DeleteLynn, it's was a joke about the ages when I said maybe we are just getting older. They do look like they're just out of HS.
BBFan do you know who Electra's mother is? All I know is she's Ivy's niece.
D we only know her father is John Forrester Jr. I haven’t found anything out about her mum.
DeleteThe actress playing Electra just turned 20 and is a Uni student!
DeleteBBFAN, I don’t recall Ridge and Steffy just bringing the company back from anything near bankruptcy. I do recall Ridge being concerned that too much was being invested in couture when Eric thought he was dying. But that’s the extent to which the company was suffering. I’ve never heard a bankruptcy conversation during the 5 years I’ve watched the show.
DeleteAnd as far as Steffy OFFERING the olive branch, I’ve also never heard Steffy offer it. It’s always Hope or Brooke. Steffy may have been willing to ‘accept it’ once or twice during their history together. But I have never once heard Steffy actually offer it. That’s just not who she is.
BBFAN, to say Brooke and Hope have NO business sense is not even close to being true. Ridge wouldn’t have asked Brooke to help LEAD the company if he felt she had no business sense. Brooke is very sharp. You don’t give her near enough credit. And Hope’s line has done excellent in years past. And it it also unfair to say Hope has NO business sense. They are both very important people in the organization. I’m looking forward to seeing Hope’s line take off again soon.
DeleteLynn, Steffy offering the olive branch happened some time aback, not in recent times. BBFan is correct.
DeleteBrooke has done a lot for the company but, business-wise, she's not very strong however, her contributions were indeed significant. Hope, otoh, not so much. All Hope has ever had was a vision. Lol.
Thank you Bob ❣️🥀
ReplyDeleteWhat about Hope's clothes lately, my god she looks like an old lady 🙈Even her mother looks much better.
ReplyDeleteShe's starting to look like she did pre-Thomas. 🤭🤭
Deletei wasn't aware that forrester creations was hopes company or the logans company. and all of a sudden brooke thinks she deserves to know anything having to do with forrester.um no you are ridges girlfriend (for now) im sure he will go back to taylor( we didn't have those tear moments and that episode that we feel as if we are a part of there family rooting for them for nothing) and carter has another reason for ivy coming back he knows that liam wants hope back so what does he do call ivy to come back because ivy and liam were together before hence why steffy doesn't like her she doesn't want liam but no one else should have him either but if ivy is back then hope is all free to be with him. and SPOILER ALERT POSSIBLY..quinn hears the line is back after carter goes behind steffy and gets ridge and eric to hire ivy and electra well she is working under queens license or something like that and guess who comes back ....quinn and that backfires on carter big time so who knows
ReplyDelete100% since when is it 'our company' i'm confused....lmfao :)
Deleteand did you all know that the new cure adorable gorgeous will is joshua morrows son. i kept thinking he looked like someone but i couldn't figure it out until i looked it up. his smile is just like his dads
ReplyDeleteBoth Hope and Carter need to be fired for mutiny! Neither one has the power to take over FC, especially professional decisions that should be made by CEO. And who is Carter, he is only there to give his advice, which right now is because he wants to get in Hopes drillies. Pardon the pun but isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black? He is actually going on like a baby having a tantrum.
ReplyDeleteJust finished watching, and I am very surprised about Carter's actions. He is confiding in Hope? He is the company's lawyer, and advisor (?) of fashion?? Carter is going too far, and out of control.
ReplyDeleteNever noticed Carter's GOLD CHAIN before.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea why people keep saying Electra looks like 15... I just don't understand. Maybe its different where I am from.
ReplyDeleteAlso, people seem to think Will looks into his 20s and he doesn't to me.
I would just like to point out in real life Will is younger than Electra. She is 20 and he is 19.
HOpeless takes every opportunity to bad mouth Steffy, doesn't she and mommy HOgan always joins in.....Carter needs to grow a pair, such a hypocrits, using HIS emotions to make decisions yet Steffy can't, he actually suites HOpeless to the T, both manipulators!
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