Friday, January 3, 2025

The Bold and the Beautiful 1-3-25 Full episode B&B 3rd January 2025

The Bold and the Beautiful 1-3-25 Full episode B&B 3rd January 2025

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  1. On the preview, Luna spying on Bill talking to Will & Electra... ugh!

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    1. Definitely had that same familiar evil look on her face! Luna is NO GOOD! Bill, you better have a plan. Although there has been no indication that he does. He just should have left her in prison to serve her life sentence. That is clearly the best plan!!

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  2. Off work today so I got to watch the episode on TV. We didn't need a replay of what happened with Will, Electra, and Remy. I would rather have seen him getting picked up by the cops. How did the police know where they were? Too much time spent showing things we've already seen. I see in the sneak peek of next week psycho Luna is already having some devious thoughts. Way to go, Bill! Whatever she does or whoever she hurts will be Bill's fault for getting her out.

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    1. Whoever Luna hurts now is all on smart Bill!!!
      Ugggh her Luna plotting her move.

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    2. B&B must not have enough money in the budget for a scene with Chief Baker. He didn't show up to arrest Remy & he didn't try to stop Luna's exit from prison. We need Chief Baker to visit Deacon to tell him that Remy won't be at work for a while.

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    3. Have to say that Luna is pretty good at being creepy.

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    4. She is a very good actress in deed.

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    5. I hope she doesn't think that Bill likes Electra in a different way than just as his son's girlfriend, then targets Electra to try and get her out of the way.

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    6. Haven't watched since last Monday and don't think I need to binge watch episodes. Following comments here I am shocked about Bill. Is it possible Luna really is his daughter?? There has to be something in it for $Bill. And what was the point of a short SL with Remmy and getting caught right away? Is there more to Electra, not so sweet and innocent ? She and Luna might have a lot in common.

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  3. Remember when Ridge wanted to take a break from CEO and he offered the position to Brooke cause he wanted to focus on designing? Well, why does he think that she wants it now, when she didnt want it back then? That there must be something else behind it other than a powergrab 😅 He is so stupid, it hurts to listen to him sometimes. Not sure what Brooke sees in him anymore. He is the worst waffeler, besides Liam. I would let Taylor have him, after getting the company back for Eric. Then they can be content with each other, until Brooke finds a new man, and Ridge doesnt like it, breaker Taylors heart, yet again, and then maybe she truly dies from broken heart syndrom.

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    1. Malin, he is one of the most unlikable characters on the show for sure!! He isn’t even attractive anymore. 🤮🤮🤮

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    2. Brooke should kick the waffler to the curb when he will come begging for her and we all know one day he will and she should let Taylor have him if Mrs Doc really likes being his second choice that much. Really, let him have his beautiful family with 30 or 40 something year old daughter who always crying about mommy and daddy not being together

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    3. Ridge's issue is not that Brooke wants to be CEO, it's that her acceptance of the CEO position is a betrayal to him. Outside of their current scenario, he would most definitely support her being CEO. He is not wrong for feeling the way he feels about it given what her daughter and Carter did.

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    4. I wonder if Taylor were to move back to LA permanently, if she would really be Ridge's second choice? We can't know for sure because she's never around however, Brooke always is so it's a given that he would be with her.

      There's definitely something that keeps Ridge gravitating towards Taylor every time she's in town, and whether or not things are good with him and Brooke. I think Brooke needs to question him about that. It's not natural for a man to spend so much time with his ex-wife while in a current relationship. It's also not natural for said woman to accept and be understanding of it.

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    5. Elle in the past two times/two actresses, Taylor has always said she's back permanently (I didn't watch regularly before but I think then too). Steffy was always asking and the answer was always "yes I'm sticking around". So Ridge operated from the perspective that she is staying. And that made 0 difference in his willingness to stay with her. He always simply wanted Brooke and returned to her. It doesn't matter who lives where permanently, it's about who has his heart.
      And of course when Taylor comes back, he is around her. That's the whole point the character is brought into the picture. If Taylor would have another man for once, in her next return it could be a question why Ridge is around her. But right now the answer is - because she has no other purpose on the show but to bring tension and the question how long Bridges next separation will be.

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    6. You think Taylor's purpose on the show is to bring tension? Yet, Ridge and Brooke never separate because of her. Maybe her purpose is what we are seeing now (as well as the last time), to be the other woman. Well, except when Flo's mom was the other woman. Lol.

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    7. Elle, that's possible. And in this case it comes down to the same thing - the other woman who increases the tension. She's not the one to start the trouble, true. There's always some misunderstanding and overreacting by Ridge. Then comes factor Taylor and they separate, he's with her for some months and then it's bye bye Taylor. If they would finally stop using her as a temporary obstacle for Bridge, but gave her a man of her own (like with Thorne, Nick, Whip), we would have a much better show.

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  4. Ridge is pathetic whining manbaby

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  5. there's no way in real life a twice convicted murdered & attempted murder & kidnapper would be released to 'house arrest'. and ridge is suck a weak character. it took him a nano second to rush into taylors' arms. also, how did the cops find remy so fast? the writing is sloppy.

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  6. Brooke.... 🤦🏻‍♀️ why are you begging that loser?! The mere smug expression on his face makes a person want to smack him a few times. The moron jumped back to his side woman without saying a word and he gets to be the high and mighty?! Let her have him. That's all she and Steffy can think and talk of. They just can't let go, let them live out this dream from the year 2000.
    Is Luna now setting her sights on Will? Realized that he's more age-appropriate. Electra may have other issues coming now. Will was very sure that Remy was detained but we didn't see that.

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    1. Bill may as well take Remy in too...

      What's one more criminal in your mansion?

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    2. LOL 😂
      The classic storyline is the 2 psychos teaming up to break up Will and Electra. Let's see if they go that path now.

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    3. Katie is going to be furious with Bill...

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    4. Milla, it is so gross the way Brooke just accepts what Ridge did with no questions asked. I am so sick and tired of this same ol’ crap on this show! Ridge always being pursued by these two women. Ridge needs a good dose of what Liam got - both women finally rejecting him!!! I think the viewers need to have a talk with this lame writing team who think it’s perfectly fine to always make the women the doormats. Not even close to what would happen in real life. Maybe the writers (assuming they are men) are living vicariously through Ridge, because in real life women don’t want them. Lol
      Just sick and tired of Brooke groveling to that cheating old dirtbag!!!

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    5. Lynn it would be so refreshing now if Brooke sees the truth. She's dumped Ridge multiple times before when he disappointed her. And now with that smug face of his shows me he doesn't believe she was about to work to get the company back to him. Well, she may as well prove him right. I hope she stays on and watches the bitter Ridge and Steffy eat it. If believing the worst, staying home, licking their wounds and whining with Taylor is what they want, so be it. It takes a smart man to see how he can work with Brooke to achieve his goal but we know Ridge ain't one.

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    6. I don't think Ridge is interested in working with Brooke to get the company back since 1) she doesn't even have a foolproof plan (maybe a foolish one) and 2) she is busy justifying what Hope and Carter did instead of firmly standing against them. How can she regain control if she supports why they did what they did? Hope has completely sold Brooke on their justifications for taking the company, and she can do it again.

      Ridge, imo, would be wise to seek other ways of getting the company back. And it's not difficult. All they have to do is prove that Carter duped them into signing. And Carter has already confessed to doing that.

      As for Brooke begging Ridge, she will always do that because she believes Ridge is her destiny. Every time she tells him that crap, he just looks at her with no response. I've said it before, Brooke needs to find out if Ridge sees her as his destiny. If he doesn't (which is clear), then Brooke is just wasting her time.

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    7. Elle, the blank stare is Ridge’s MO. He does the exact same thing with Taylor. Just very recently Taylor told Ridge she still loves him (because of course she does) and he said nothing in response. We just saw his stupid blank stare. And I do believe dumb-dumb Ridge sees Brooke as his destiny. And he has said as much in that scene they replayed in this episode - the keyhole scene in Rome (or wherever they were at the time.).
      Sooooooo many of us wish that Brooke would walk away from that disgusting excuse for a man. But it doesn’t change the fact that Ridge truly wants his future to be with Brooke. He is very disillusioned right now with what’s going on with the company. But there have been many scenes where we have seen his sad expressions, and him picking up pictures of himself and Brooke and being generally very upset that this has happened. He is just using Taylor for solace like he always does……because Taylor will always be there to soften the blow. But that’s all Taylor will ever be to Ridge….a safety net.

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    8. Milla, in the previews for next week I think they showed that Ridge and Steffy are going to go back to FC. Someone says….”Even if it’s just for show”. So maybe Ridge wants to see for himself what Brooke plans to do to get his company back.
      As long as I’ve watched this show, it’s always been Brooke who tries to get her “Destiny” back. I really wish I would have seen those older episodes where she dumps his loser butt!! I would LOVE to see that happen!!

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    9. Lynn you would have loved them. My favorite is when Ridge came crawling back to her after Taylor returned from the "dead" the second time (and it came out that she had cheated on him years back). Brooke told him to go back to Taylor she wants nothing to do with him. He chased her for months (but she loved Nick Marone) and finally she agreed to marry him. Then Nick stole her from her wedding 😅
      And actually the very last time when Ridge disappointed her (with Thomas and CPS) he ran from his wedding straight to her house. She told him she doesn't want him and that he should think and decide what he wants. So she acted with more dignity than Taylor who was willing to keep the truth about Thomas and CPS hidden (and "tell him after the wedding", which, yeah right, we won't take your word for that, Taylor).

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    10. Elle, Brooke has never once supported what Carter and Hope did. All she ever tried to do was make Ridge see that it wasn’t all Hope that got them to this point. That in fact, Carter was very much a big part of all this!! Brooke was simply being a mom in not letting Ridge totally disparage her daughter and have it go unchecked.
      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again….Ridge didn’t put up with Brooke disparaging Thomas for even 5 seconds, even when Thomas ABSOLUTELY deserved it.
      So again, Brooke knows what they did was completely wrong and she has told Ridge as much multiple times. She even ratted them out to Ridge to protect FC!! But Brooke was simply not letting Ridge get away with blaming the entire thing on Hope. That was completely unfair.
      Even now, the Forresters completely blame Hope for breaking Thomas’ heart at the end, while 100% ignoring all the crazy horrific crap he did to Hope over the years. All the many years of stalking, manipulating, and lying that Thomas did to Hope. The Forresters are the worst kind of hypocrites!

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    11. Milla, Nick was HOT!! 😁😁😁
      I wish he was still on the show. I loved them together. I saw a few episodes here and there during those years.
      And you are right about what happened after the CPS reveal, he did go to Brooke. But even then there wasn’t genuine groveling from Ridge. I just remember him trying to defend Thomas if Brooke said literally anything about how they got to that point. Ridge is such a damn hypocrite. I just can’t stand him!!! Lol.

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    12. Lynn, I'm sorry but I really don't see Ridge believing that Brooke is his destiny if he is always soooooo willing to walk away from her and into the arms of someone else. And I'm not pro-Tridge in the least, I am just not about to get into a debate about who Ridge loves more when time and time again, he has walked away from Brooke for someone else.

      I did not say that Brooke supported what Carter and Hope did, I said she supported why they did it. And it's because Hope managed to convince her that their reasons for what they did were just. What makes Brooke think that she can just convince them to give back the company? Good ole Hope will end up convincing Brooke again that their reasons were justified and that they are doing it for the good of the company.

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    13. Elle, I don’t think Brooke supported why they did it at all. She was just trying to be empathetic with what her daughter has been through while working there. And she saw that Hope had a point about the way she had been treated. You can be empathetic about someone’s plight without agreeing with them. If Brooke truly agreed on any level, she would stand with Hope and Carter. But in each case, Brooke did the right thing….both in telling Ridge what they had done when she found out. And by accepting the CEO position with the intent of getting the company back to the Forresters.
      Brooke definitely won’t come around to Carter’s and Hope’s way of thinking. She knows what they did is completely unethical. Brooke knows the difference between right and wrong. She may not have always made the right choices in her younger years, but she definitely does in her mature adult years. Brooke is the rockstar of the show as far as I’m concerned!!! 😁😁😁

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    14. And I think Ridge's idea of destiny is different than what normal humans would consider destiny. I believe Ridge is very comfortable being a slut when his little feelers get hurt. But he will always end up back with Brooke. We have seen it play out time and time again. So ultimately he sees himself growing old with Brooke even when he takes obvious detours along the way. Ridge wouldn’t know or understand faithfulness if it mowed him down on the street. He’s an absolute pig!

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    15. Lynn that's true. When he came to Brooke, Ridge was in his usual mute mode. He didn't ask her to take him back, it was more him waiting for her to jump in his arms. And Brooke not doing that was the real victory. She was so destroyed the whole day, her whole family (incl dad) with her, even Bill came to offer his services 😂 and still when Ridge came and said the wedding was off, Brooke responded the way she should have - that he treated her horribly and didn't let her talk, didn't talk to her etc. To me even that right now would be satisfying to see, so much better than this worn out "destiny" and "our future" crap (writers should be embarrassed to write this). She doesn't need a future with this man.

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    16. Milla, yes….the writers are awful. We used to hear all the time how Bell Jr favored the Logans. But I don’t think that’s true at all. Bell Jr favors making Ridge look like ‘the king of the world’ and Bell shows that the women will give up all of their dignity just to be in the presence of the king.
      As we’ve all said…..this is so far from reality!! It’s absolutely disgusting and demoralizing.
      Even in the episode where Ridge went to Brooke after he called off the wedding to Taylor, there was no groveling on Ridge's part. But there definitely should have been. Why they continue to try to portray him as God’s gift is beyond me!! 🤮🤮🤮

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  7. Eric reads newspapers. The man is in the old era.

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    1. Yeah, but what is the date on the newspaper? (Inquiring minds want to know.)

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    2. I think he is old. So he is in his right era.

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  8. Definitely Luna will try to get will I knew it there’s another story line there , and as for ridge that look again with his head can’t stand that look , and Taylor shut up ridge is not yours

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    1. I also can't stand that smug look and the thing with the head from Ridge. What a gigantic moronic loser.

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  9. Seriously Taylor steffy and Thomas phobee s mom who shot BILL SPENCER needs to wake up because he ridge asks Taylor to marry him but never makes it through the wedding so steffy should not get her hopes up again and seriously hope and Carter are not the new owners at all that's right Justin is lying he's wants revenge on steffy and ridge s family Thomas Zander told Justin Thomas murdered Emma Justin s niece so hope and Carter are criminal s should be jailed yesterday

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  10. Why is B&B forgetting that Taylor is no saint to Ridge. He left her standing at the alter when he learnt that she became a part of Thomas' plan to destroy Brooke. Taylor at that time was the woman that Betrayed Ridge, so how is Eric and Ridge talking about Taylor will never betray him. That woman is a sneaky snake. She has been shaking around Ridge for over 40 years now. Anybody who hasn't moved on with their lives in 40 years should be considered armed and dangerous. She is obsessed.she has a lethal obsession. Broke heart syndrome, obsession is what it is. After 40 years I won't even remember the name of the man I once loved and I would have really loved him. As a matter of fact I loved him for six years, we fell apart, he eventually married someone else. I hadn't seen him in 17 years, until just the other day at the food store, he called out my name and I had to look in his face a good minute to remember who he was, and I was like, "Derick, Right?" And he said yes. Lol. But oh how I loved him. Taylor, please get on and go love another. It's possible.

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    1. Taylor was not a part of Thomas' CPS plan at all. That was all Thomas. Taylor did not betray Ridge.

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  11. Steffy says for the 10,000th time….”This time it’s different.” No Steffy, you fool….this time is NO different! And why have Taylor and Steffy just completely forgotten about Taylor’s broken heart syndrome??!!! We had to hear over and over again what a “serious condition” it was. But I’m thinking…..NOT SO SERIOUS, if it’s not even being mentioned!! Taylor is a con artist!!!

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    1. Lynn yes "this time is different" and how she's never seen dad like that lol 😂 Steffy's memory resets every year it seems. And she's absolutely pushing her mama towards another instance of broken heart. Wtf was that storyline good for? Everyone of Taylor's fans was so convincsd she's not after Ridge, that she's learned her lesson and has this "full life"... Bull. That full life now revolves only around talking about Ridge with Steffy and running after him at work and at Eric's...

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    2. Milla, absolutely!! 💯!!!

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    3. Was the BHS caused by Ridge? I got the feeling it was a combination of events, including the loss of her marriage to Ridge, and losing her daughter. It was why she felt such a release after the "healing" from Chondra.

      Regardless, Taylor should be very careful about going down that rabbit hole again. Makes no sense being healed of the hurt that Ridge caused just to go back to it again.

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    4. Elle I don't think Ridge was blamed directly for that, it's true. But just like you said, he would be the one to cause her the worst pain now and revert the healing. Taylor definitely should make this a priority. And Steffy should keep it in mind too.

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  12. Oh Brooke, get a grip, Ridge is NOT your destiny, it's all a competition for you, you only want Ridge so that Taylor can't have him 😂 it's ALL about YOU saying "I win" 😂🚩all the times you betrayed Ridge and he took you back you ALWAYS ran to Stephanie to say "I win" same as when YOU stole FC, YOU ran straight to Stephanie and said "I win" 😂 You even taught Hopeless to do the same, her and Steffy faught over Liam for years and when Steffy finally left Hopeless and Liam alone and she married Finn, what did Hopeless do, shortly after her "contest" with Steffy was over Hopeless could finally say "I win" then she turned around and divorced Liam for Thomas after she FINALLY had Liam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🚩🚩🚩🚩 Donna and Katie do the EXACT same thing, looks like it's a HOgan trait 😂😂😂😂🤮

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  13. Poor Electra barely escaped Remy, now she probably become a target for Luna who wants Will for herself 😣

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    1. Or maybe she doesn't want Will. Maybe she's admiring how Bill is with his family and falling for him all over again. I don't think she will risk getting on Bill's bad side for him to turn around and send her back to prison.

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    2. Elle I think that the last second when the shot is on Will and Electra's words "he's an extraordinary man" tells us that Luna will focus on him. Luna is crazy and also quite creative. She may plot a way to get close to Will. Her face was all psycho when staring at them 🙈 Or maybe she sees Will as a threat or competition... Either way I think she's not there to only admire, she'll cause trouble.

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  14. There it is Brooke, like in 2022 when Ridge TRIED to end things with you and YOU once again seduced him, you told Ridge "THAT HE NEEDS YOU" you were up in his face trying to convince him but the look on his face was that of a man who ALLOWED himself to be manipulated 🚩 surely you aren't THAT shallow RIDGE, time to grow a pair and tell Brooke to piss off ‼️ Brooke, aren't you a bit OLD to be playing games and being in competition with another woman just to prove that you "CAN WIN" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🚩🤮

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  15. Why is Ridge being castigated for running to Taylor? For one thing, how many times over the years has he forgiven Brooke for cheating on him and took her back every single time? And it was a lot! But besides that, have we forgotten why Ridge walked away from Brooke in the first place? She chose to justify what Carter and Hope did and expected him to understand why they stole his company from him. Ridge felt betrayed.

    Then, to top it off, Brooke takes the CEO position without discussing her plan with Ridge first. If she had done that, they wouldn't be where they are now. To Ridge, it would seem like she ran and did that to try and placate him after he walked away from her.

    This is why many of us see the Bridge relationship as a toxic one. She cheats or does something to go against Ridge (last time it was Deacon) and he runs to someone else. Then, they reunite, and it isn't long before Brooke does something again and Ridge runs to another woman. It's why I say, he should just stay with Brooke. It's their dynamic. They seem to love the dysfunction of their relationship.

    Taylor just needs to leave them in their dysfunction and move on to someone new. Steffy should be focused on getting her mom to meet new people, not obsess over putting their family back together.

    And where the heck is Thomas? Why didn't he even join his family for Christmas or new year's? If MA is no longer interested in the role, they should recast ASAP! It's unacceptable that MA/Thomas just left and cannot even return to support his family in light of the takeover.

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    1. Elle, I think if the roles were reversed and it was Brooke who ran to someone else’s arms within literal minutes of finding out some very disturbing news about Ridge, we (the Brooke fans) would be hearing non-stop from people on this blog what a whore / slut, etc. Brooke is. But because it’s Ridge, you guys are giving him a pass?? Ridge deserves zero pass. He doesn’t deserve it in terms of Brooke…..who he should have talked to, and he doesn’t deserve it from Taylor, who is going to be in for a whole new wave of broken heart syndrome.
      All the years I have watched the show, Brooke hasn’t turned to another man once in anywhere near that timeframe. Ridge didn’t miss a beat. I think the writers are missing the mark in trying to make men look good in these SL’s. They just make Ridge look desperate to be on his own for even 5 minutes. And it makes women look bad for not only putting up with, but chasing these disgusting waffling men. They FINALLY gave Liam a dose of what he had been dishing out for years. It’s beyond time for them to do the same with Ridge!!

      I am not sure about Thomas coming back at this point. MA may have moved on to greener pastures. They write people off the show frequently with zero explanation. Again, just points to how sad this show has gotten over the years.

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    2. Above that should have said…..They just make Ridge look terrified of being on his own for even 5 minutes. So he is desperate to be in someone else’s arms instantly.

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    3. Lynn, I'm not one to call characters names whether it's Brooke, Steffy, Taylor or Ridge. That's not me. I'm also not giving Ridge a pass. I've said many times over that Ridge does not deserve either of these women and have fully supported them leaving him and finding men who would truly love them.

      What I'm saying is that everyone is coming down on Ridge but seem to have forgotten why they are where they are in the first place. Ridge called Hope names. So what? He had his company taken away from him by her and Carter. He's not allowed to react to that? Of course he would blame Hope. Brooke needed to be more understanding instead of fighting him for silly name-calling. The situation was much bigger than that but all Brooke could see was the name-calling. She could have chosen to support the man she claims is her destiny rather than ask him to understand why Hope and Carter did what they did.

      And not because you haven't seen Brooke cheat on Ridge doesn't mean it never happened. The point I was making is that Brooke has done the same to Ridge that everyone is so upset that Ridge is doing to her now. It's why their relationship is so toxic. It's also why I believe they should just stay together. They have a real funny way of expressing their love for each other and what's worse, they're used to it.

      MA is a major character. If he has left, they should have said something. When original Ridge was leaving, we knew about it. When original Taylor left, we knew about it. Heck, even when Quinn left, we knew about it. When Stephanie left, we also knew about it and knew how she was going to exit the show. If Thomas has left, then we should know something. As I said before, this is totally unacceptable.

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    4. Elle, I know you don’t name call. But as you are aware, there are plenty of Steffy / Taylor fans that do….daily. Quite a few, actually. But we have discussed this before.
      I don’t understand your comment….”Of course he would blame Hope.” That doesn’t seem like an “of course” at all. Why wouldn’t he blame Carter is the better question. Carter is a big boy who makes his own decisions. Carter is the one who had Ridge and Steffy sign the documents. Carter is the one who falsified his signature on the LLC docs. Carter is the one who then filed the papers and made it all legal. But of course Ridge would blame Hope! What???!!!!!
      And like I’ve said over and over again…..it wasn’t that he blamed Hope that I took issue with. It was that he ONLY blamed Hope. That was completely biased and ridiculous on Ridge’s and Steffy’s part. There was plenty of blame to go around. So again, it’s fine that he put SOME of the blame on Hope, but no way in hell should he have blamed Hope entirely, but that’s exactly what he did. So much so, that was willing to give Carter another chance at FC if he dumped Hope! Are you kidding me??!! Ridge put zero accountability on Carter. Oh poooooor Carter, he got hypnotized by evil Hope. ABSURD!! Again, he’s a big boy and makes his own decisions.
      And as far as the name calling of Hope is concerned, yes, Ridge has a right to be upset. But that was uncalled for. And like I said….if Brooke had ever done even 1/20th of that when she was furious with Thomas, Ridge would have walked away from Brooke and not looked back. Which is, by the way, the very thing Brooke should do now. Smug arrogant Ridge walks on water on this show. I’m soooooooo over him!! 😡😡😡😡

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    5. When has “totally unacceptable” ever stopped the writers before??? Lol. This show is a train wreck. Most days I ask myself why I even still watch it. But it’s addicting in a strange and unexplainable way.

      MA will probably reappear someday. I just don’t think it will be anytime soon. As you know, I have zero issue with him being gone. The longer he is out of Hope’s life in any romantic capacity, the better. I was sure they were never going to turn into this power couple that many of the viewers thought was gonna happen. And that makes me happy. I will never see the Thomas / Hope thing as anything less than completely disgusting and incestuous.

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    6. Lynn I love your argumentation. Absolutely nailed it. I have noticed that when it comes to Logan women, we often have to bring up the "he's a grown-up" fact. Because it's sich a favorite practice to blame the Logan women for everything men do. I haven't seen one discussion about all that Steffy influenced men to do and it was plenty. As an example the last thing - pushing Thomas out and to Paris - we've said that he's a big boy who made his own baby decision to run away. Even though the idea came from her and she practically shoved him out the door.
      But watch it when a Logan woman is involved - puuuh! They are the evil overlords who make men do the most scandalous things and have to be called names. Men make their own decisions. In Carter's case it was his idea and execution from start to finish. Hope shouldn't have encouraged. But he did it.

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  16. It’s 2025 - WHAT is with two grown women “needing” a man so much they make it their life mission to get him, rather than focussing on their own self-fulfillment. A woman needing a man. Grown 50-60’somethings, at that. Get with the decade, please. Women do not act that way, and does the younger generation need to be thinking this is normal?!

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