Sheila needs to go shopping for some jogging π shoes. Now, that Finn & Steffy are thinking that she is alive, she will need proper footwear to cover her 9 toes πΎ while she is on the run!
Way to go Finn ❤️ I love it when someone on this show shows expertise and critical thinking, and so glad it's Cutie MD. He's smarter than the police (not that it's too hard, they are terrible, but he's doing their job better than them) Thomas is hilarious, so out of reality and yet I can't stop admirng that actor. πππΌloved that dialogue with Brooke.
Btw can it be that something is missing from the episode, shows me 16:54 min in total?
@Lynn why are you creeping me out before bedtime πππ¦Άπ½on the bright side I expect the Queen of the damned to finally get active again π she's going crazy(ier) in that little apartment!
@ Milla, π€£π€£π€£ Yes, if Sheila is gonna re-enter the scene it will be nice to finally see some new dialogue. The same thing over and over again between her and Deacon is painful to watch.
@Lynn if the police and Finn start snooping around she'll definitely have more to say and do π wondering who she will kidnap this time - Steffy, Hays, Brooke, Thomas... Many options π exciting times are coming. And also I'm glad that Ridge took time off, I was so tired of his lacking dialogue skills (only exception when he let Thomas have it - he said all the things we were thinking)
Milla, yes, agree! Personally, I wouldn’t mind not seeing Ridge for months! When he returns it better only be to smack Thomas around some more! Lol. Other than that, I could do without seeing Ridge for MONTHS!!! I agree crazy lady Sheila is gonna be a key character in episodes to come. Honestly, I’m still waiting for her to kidnap Hayes. I know vengeance is typically on Sheila’s mind, but more recently all she talks about is somehow managing to be a part of Finn’s and Hayes’ life. She already tried to hold Finn against his will. That worked out for her for a little while. And Hayes wouldn’t be able to put up quite the fight. Lol So he’s an easier target for her. I honestly thought she was gonna kidnap Hayes in previous episodes. So maybe it’s still coming.
Milla, even though what Thomas did was so wrong, he really made me laugh today.. His dialogue with Brooks is always humorous unless it gets really heated.. He is such a cutie!! Loved the banter!! When he is like that it’s hard to be mad at him..
Sooo glad to see Finn back now.. I think what set him off was when he saw Sheila in her disguise at the restaurant.. do you remember, he got that look on his face.. I think it’s been eating at him since.. You would think a coroner would have had to do an examination on the toe and hair, which they did do, to verify it was her DNA 𧬠and hair, yet they didn’t pick up that the toe had clean cuts?? You would think they picked that up, especially when it comes to her!! But then if commonsense was used, there would be no story lines!!
Colly it's a soap, but yes all that should have been taken up with forensics. I do remember that scene with Finn and also when Hope walked in on Deacon. She saw the resemblance. I just wish Deacon would hurry up and do something. Today he sounded like enough is enough. But she played little piggy.
@Colly yes I remember thinking the same, he definitely felt something! And started putting things together. And like Elle said, everyone around - Ridge, Taylor, Brooke, Eric - knows what she's capable of much better than Finn and yet readily believed, just based on a toe π€¦π»♀️ that she's dead. Wtf! What about bones? Do bears eat bones, all of them too (I really don't know, but somehow can't imagine them being able to stomach everything, at least a human skull may be hard?) All that's left is a toe and hair and tadaa she's dead π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️ both the police and the grownups should have applied more critical thinking. And good that Dr Cutie is doing it ππΌ hope he doesn't suffer her wrath!
@Lynn exactly. Thomas has no remorse and that should tell everyone what they're dealing with. One of the hundreds of differences between this debacle and Brooke's out-of-this-world-shameful-kiss (irony) story. She was a wrack. Whatever is coming his way, will be well-deserved. He already got everyone mad at him and Douglas sent back to his mom. That's a good start. And somehow I know he's not done with his evil or crazy deeds. More is coming from him ππ
And Sheila - oh yes, I can totally see her kidnapping little Hayes. I'll feel awful for Steffy, no mother deserves that, Finn too, but he would get into action mode and find his son.
Milla, she was only a wreck because she was freaking out that Douglas would tell them π€£π€£π€£ i can’t believe you think that was “remorse”?? π€£π€£ I remember it clearly, when Hope told Brooke that Douglas was going to Steffies with Thomas, she freaked out and told Hope to get Thomas to bring him back to the cabin.. Then they ALL questioned Douglas to find out if he said anything, then Brooke asked Hope and Liam to give her a moment with Douglas, which is when she manipulated him to keep him quiet.. THATS what she was freaked out for.. She wanted time alone with Douglas so Hope and Liam wouldn’t stop her from doing what she did!! Not that they would have anyway, cause they went along with it and even lied for Brooke, lied to Thomas why he had to rush him home when they just got there.. that was NOT remorse.. Not once did Brooke show remorse for hushing Douglas.. Even when Ridge said to Brooke, after he beat up Deacon, in the closet, he said “i had to find out from a little boy”, Brooke said nothing.. at no time did Brooke shw remorse for hushing him.. And I don’t care what anyone says, it was just as bad as what Thomas did!! Just because she was a bit nicer about it, doesn’t make it less wrong.. The only difference was that what Thomas did was illegal!! That’s it..
@ Milla, YES! Thank you for pointing out how Brooke was riddled with guilt and was going to tell Ridge, but his speech made her think twice. That was a conversation in their living room where Brooke was gonna tell him the truth. But he kept interrupting her and saying it wasn’t her fault. Then she lost her nerve. But the guilt from it all was eating her up!! The FF’s can’t point to even one second of Thomas feeling guilty for anything he’s done. He would do it all again - GLADLY - if given the chance. He has ZERO conscience. And as we have said many times - that is the true definition of a sociopath!!
Also, Steffy defended Brooke to Sheila, she knew it was wrong, and once again defended her.. At least Brooke thanked her this time π€£π€£π€£ Steffy and no other loving mother would deserve that!!
Brooke had ONE conversation where she sat Douglas on her lap and told him it was “in the past and nothing needed to be said about it.” That was it!!! Thomas threatened Douglas, got mad at Douglas, blamed the call on Douglas. And the conversations went on for days - multiple times. NOT EVEN IN THE SAME BALLPARK IN THE SAME TOWN as a comparison to what Brooke’s conversation with Douglas looked like. Maybe that’s why there was NO OUTRAGE about what Brooke said to Douglas vs the outrage that everyone is feeling toward Thomas for what he put Douglas through. Because even the characters on the show realize they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!!
Brooke’s guilt started immediately after the kiss happened. She did not know Douglas knew anything for a long while. Brooke felt GENUINE guilt for what she had done. And she questioned what made her drink about 500 times. All that happened before the Douglas thing was known.
Thank you Lynn. It's worlds apart the two stories. There's no point even debating how guilty Brooke was it was all over her. Thomas is proud of himself for what he did, only thing he's mad is that it didn't work. He hurt his whole family and doesn't even see it, doesn't even care. Total socio. That settles it right there.
@Colly you can't say with straight face that it's the same ππ a machination directed at sabotaging someone vs a kiss that wouldn't even happen without Sheila. Come on now, the Thomas defense must follow some basic laws of logic. The blind Brooke hate must have some days of eyes opened. Or maybe it's just me π€·π»♀️
And brook was so ashamed of herself for drinking not only for the kiss And again steffy confronted sheila was not to defend brook She just like to call people out especially when she is right If she did it only for brook she would have told her father or brook She did really good in the thomas situation but again she said it herself it wasn’t for brook Even Though brook was so grateful
True Mmysh. I am ready to stipulate to the fact that Steffy defended Brooke to Sheila but it has nothing to do with the current situations. I have already admitted that Steffy is acting with much more maturity and integrity than Thomas. He is straightforward malicious and keeps repeating he’s not sorry, not just that, he blames Steffy. And he will do more, I’m sure.
Btw I'm following the actor who plays Thomas on Instagram, he's so adorable with that smile ☺️and his caption "that actor you love to hate" makes him even more endearingπ₯°π€ he knows very well his character is... problematic π
Milla of course im not saying that steffy is like thomas But saying always that she sacrificed herself for brook is 100 % wrong Even now what she did was so brave and good but it wasn’t about brook So the endless comments how steffy sacrificed herself for brook and brook didn’t thank her is absurd Actually its the other way around Brook put herself on sheila‘s radar to protect steffy’s family And steffy and Thomas always blaming brook for their parents divorce is totally wrong and say a lot about Taylor Taylor asked ridge not to tell the kids te truth so she will not be embarrassed about her past They don’t know their mother real past Which is unfair Maybe if they know they will let go of the hate they hold and starts to heal Coz holding this much hate is a factor of how messed up they are And how is Taylor the saint accept another woman to take the blame Since she is the most caring and loving human being
The actor is really good i give him that But for me i don’t see him as an attractive guy I remember him from the movie the blind side If you have watched Its was i guess his first role He was just the parking guy in a restaurant sandra bullok and her family went to dinner at He just took the car keys to park the car So its really good he got a big roll like this so quickly
@ Mmysh, I thought the same thing about the incident when Brooke told Sheila to stay away from Steffy and her family…when Brooke saw Sheila at Il Gardino or whatever it’s called. Brooke was actually protective of / defending Steffy’s family. And that’s how the whole Sheila getting revenge on Brooke with the champagne bottle switch happened.
Brooks put herself on Sheila’s radar, not for Steffy, but because of herself!! She couldn’t resist the urge to go and stick it to her, while she was in handcuffs.. Brooks loooves to Bragg when she can!!
That comment did not happen when Sheila was in handcuffs. It happened at that restaurant everyone on the show always goes to. Both Brooke and Sheila were standing by the bar when they ran into each other and Brooke told Sheila to stay away from Steffy and Steffy’s family. She absolutely was defending the Forresters from Shiela.
Bragging πππ After what she did to her Make her lose a decade of sobriety Its a big deal for alcoholic But sure doesn’t apply to brook for you And if brook was doing that for herself So what she gained exactly Even when steffy said she didn’t don’t for brook you insist she did ππ I guess you know her better than herself ππ
Agree ladies. It won't take long for Fin to figure out the toe was surgically removed. Finally a different storyline. Steffy is a beauty with or without makeup.
Thanks, y'all. I wasn't really scared off, just unhappy that I caused such dissension. Going forward, I will try to be more explicit in my wording. And, will try to read others' words with more care and not jump to conclusions. I promise!
Margo, the ones that stay tend to develop a pretty thick skin. Sometimes it gets heated. Lol. But you have every right to your comments. Whether you are a Forrester fan or Logan fan.
MargO, glad you came back love!! I have always enjoyed your comments, hope you come more often!! And yes, it was me Lynn discreetly pointed out, that was concerned you wouldn’t come back love!! You do have to get a thick skin to be here.. But it’s not necessary to walk on eggshells love, and you didn’t cause anything!!! just comment whatever you want to say.. people dont always agree, but you are welcomed by all here which is wonderful to see!!
Also, I agree, I loved Steffies look today!! I am really not fussed on animal print, unless it’s a good one, often they can look trashy, but she looked great!! I have noticed they are doing her make up a lot more natural since she came back from maternity leave, and it’s much better I think!!
Don’t know why my comment didn’t post?? But MargO, so glad you came back love!! It was me who was concerned about you not wanting to come back, as Lynn oh so discreetly pointed out lol.. You didn’t cause any trouble love!! As ppl have said, your entitled to your opinions, and you certainly don’t have to walk on eggshells checking every word you say to make sure you don’t upset someone.. I as many others really enjoy your comments and hope you pop in more often.. ❤️ I agree, steffy looks great, they have been doing her makeup much more natural since she came back after maternity leave.. She has such natural beauty she doesn’t even need make up!!
Colly, I did see your comment. But mainly I was referring to D when she addressed me and said the nasty comments turn lots of people away from the blog. This time I wasn’t actually calling you you out. Lol
Thanks for clarifying Lynn, lol, but D did not mention anyones name, she said that she had read that comments directed to non Logan lovers that stated those things, such as we r delusional, and foolish which Maur said and in denial which Hilary said, so she did not direct her comment at any one person, or mention names, just gave general comments from Lfans to any non Logan fan... which is fair enough, because all those things were said.. And as discussed before, others have left because of these types of comments and much worse.. Some have even come forward and stated that’s why they left.. there was one person who on the same day asked what FFS stood for because they see it in every comment!! And that is all they said!! So what does that say.. D is not wrong!!
Colly, she was talking to me when she made the comment. She may have been directing her comment to me or it could have been more general. But she definitely was talking to me. Here’s a copy and paste of D’s comment I am referring to….
DDecember 1, 2022 at 8:31 AM Excuse me...my name was mentioned Lynn. As a couple of the others posted on the previous blog. The berating and insulting comments are turning alot of people away from this blog. That's "pathetic"
And I will say it definitely goes both ways. You have seen I’m sure, Logan fans say they used to be afraid to comment on the blog because a couple years back it was all Forrester fans who ruled the blog and they were afraid they’d get beat up if they defended Brooke. Multiple people have said that as well. So it definitely goes both ways.
I said they were delusional and I stand behind it. Anyone who can claim Taylor is the epitome of truth and integrity have clearly not been watching this show. Also, if you don't think Thomas is a sociopath, then you are not watching this show. Furthermore, the FF say things all the time about the Logans that I find offensive. Previously when I called some of them out for being bullies, they didn't give a shit or apologize, so why should I now? It's not going to happen. As y'all said, you need thick skin on this blog. If you are so enraged, then quit reading the blog. That's all I know to tell you
@Lynn, I know right!? Sometimes I think they're just pretending to believe some of the crap they write just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention when they contradict their own words. Smhπ Anyway, I think it's fun to chat with people about the soap and make funny and snarky observations.
Lfans have made people so distressed over a word they wrote, or misspelling a word, except if your a Logan fan that is, which has happened on several occasions, or over a comment and opinion they made, to the point they feel like they have to apologise or walk on eggshells.. they are having to defend themselves, or say they will be more conscious with checking what they write, or say they can delete their comment if it’s not acceptable for Lfans (note next page, Elizabeth).. One Ffan felt she had to change her name just so she could come back on here and hope no one would pick on her, because of nasty things said to her completely unprovoked mind you, and Hilary, since you chimed in on this thread, you know EXACTLY what I am talking about here, since you did call her a “troll that has mental issues”, for NO good reason, and she said NOTHING to anyone to provoke that level of nastiness, all she did wrong was say a word that all the Lfans didn’t like, so got to love your work Hilary, but sure, you stand by yourself like you just stated, and when she tried to come back under another name, she still copped it!! several people have come back on here to say the reason they left was because of Lfans, and many who used to be here have left, and that’s still not enough.. Pauline/barbera, aka, “troll from the valley, who has mental issues and failed English”, hasn’t been back!! So sure, ladies, you are so right, you should stand by your words??!! Be proud!!
This is not YOUR blog Colly, so maybe stop acting like the dictator. I think you just can't stand it that I don't kiss your ass or apologize for having my own opinions. I don't need you to be a member of my fan club, and I'm definitely not a member of yours. I'm NEVER going to apologize for my opinions, and I'm not the kind of asshole who would expect anyone else to. I don't attack other bloggers, I talk about the show. You're the one I see always trying to start some bullshit. I'm over this with you π
Hilary, did you miss the part where you called Pauline/Barbara a “troll with mental issues”?? π¬π¬π¬ You just said you don’t attack bloggers?? Maybe I am delusional π¬π¬ because I don’t remember her ever having talked to you or comment on one of your posts?? By all means, correct me if I am wrong?? To say you don’t attack bloggers when you blatantly made one of the most nasty comments on this blog to date, to a person completely unprovoked, for reasons, you can’t or won’t explain , is what you call delusional!! π¬ And yes, you are right!! I just can’t stand it, aaaand then you lost me after that?? Lynn has asked for an apology from me before, is she an asshole? π¬ And I don’t remember asking you or anyone else, for that matter, for an apology π€£π€£π€£ are you kidding, that would be the biggest waste of my time in all the years I have been on this earth!! And for the record, I wasn’t the one who started this!! ππ π€£π€£
And that takes care of the theory that Ridge did not come back to let them know that the wedding is officially over. Seems they all know what's going on. Except for Brooke, of course. The look on her face when Steffy told her that her parents had left town. π
I think the Forester fans need to re-listen to exactly what Steffy said. She said, “That’s why my dad left town to do some real soul searching. Same with my mom.” She wouldn’t have said it that way if she thought for a minute they had GONE TOGETHER. Steffy would have said….my parents left town together to figure things out. And she would have definitely thrown that in Brooke’s face. And there was no reaction by Brooke because of what Steffy said. The only reaction is Brooke being surprised that Steffy is so naive to think that Ridge and Taylor still have a chance together. I mean come on ladies, think about it!! If Taylor knew she and Ridge were leaving together to “figure things out” that whole exit from Eric’s house would have looked totally different. And Taylor wouldn’t have looked like her dog just got hit by a car. She would have been happy and giggly like she always is when she thinks Ridge is hers. That was NOT the case, and Taylor looked devastated when she left Eric’s. Taylor and Ridge did NOT leave town together. They are both doing their alone time “soul searching”, just like Brooke is doing.
Lynn seriously are you entertaining this speculation? π it's one of the most absurd things I've read recently - that they left together. It's so outrageous I first thought it's a joke π
Milla, RIGHT??!! They are desperately grasping at straws here. But I think they are serious. And that makes it even more funny to me! Just one more time we’ll be able to say…NOPE!!!
@ Milla, looks like my comment didn’t post. I said in response.,..I know it’s nuts that they could draw that conclusion. And I think they are “serious.” All it’s gonna do is give us another opportunity to say NOPE!!!! But they are wanting / hoping to make it look like Ridge still wants Taylor. But we know that ship π³ has sailed!!
Good point Mmysh. Taylor the world renowned psychiatrist at the very least should have referred Thomas to someone. I can understand why Ridge didn't, because he was disgusted with Thomas. But mommy Tay Tay wasn't! I surprised she didn't take her boy angel with her π
Yes hilary because all Taylor care about being ridge’s wife She even abandoned her children when they needed her the most because she couldn’t be ridge’s wife
Mmysh, Hilary is correct….you made an excellent point about Ridge and Giggles both abandoning Thomas when everyone knows he is in desperate need of real psychiatric care!! Wow! And yes…Taylor should really know better than to leave Thomas to his own devices. But then we all know Taylor couldn’t shrink her way out of a paper bag. So I guess it really shouldn’t shock us too much that she bailed. Lol
Some of my comments didn’t post - so retyping. Ugh. Mmysh and Hilary, such a valid point about Taylor (the psychiatrist lol) - bailed on her son knowing he’s in desperate need of real psychological help. She’s definitely not getting the mother of the year or the psychiatrist of the year award!!!! π€£π€£π€£π€£ Just more examples of how Taylor fails in every way in her profession!!
@Milla This scene should have been played for "Halloween", that would have been the best time to show a cut toeπ Now Finn is playing detective π΅️♂️. Oh, by the way, have you heard the news that our "Villain Bill is coming back" he is going to be wearing that sword of his again.
Oh that's good news, I always liked those swords and how him and his sons all wore them ⚔️ and good for Bill, I mean not condoning whatever bad thing he'll be up to, but it will be more exciting plus it's not like him to wallow in booze and self-pity. He needs a goal πͺπΌπͺπΌ
@Milla The writers are thinking of Bill using Thomas to revenge Ridge (Does that storyline sound familiar from a past episode), their idea is Bill learns what Thomas did to Brooke and Ridge's marriage, and once he finds that Thomas has been fired, he might have a proposition for Thomas to get back at Ridge. π€ What do you think the writers going there, Milla?
@Elizabeth yes I remember you told me that is expected to happen! Maybe they team up to ensure Brooke doesn't get back together with Ridge! Or Bill hires him in the firm in some rival capacity. But let's see, so many of these spoilers never come true. I do believe that Bill will return though and with some more powerful and present role.
Elle, I laughed so hard.. He cracks me up!! You gotta give him some credit!! Even when he is wrong, he manages to make Brooke look so stupid!! She always gets this stumped look π on her face.. I swear sometimes she looks like she wants to laugh!! I think he throws his own stuff in because I have seen KKL look like she wants laugh..
Thomas is so damn pathetic with his stepmom insult. Own your crap you psychopath!!! Thomas your pain is only just beginning. Just like Brooke said, you are finally gonna pay!!!! This one took things too far, you evil, conniving, scheming, psychopathic narcissist!!! Thomas you are minutes away from finally getting what’s been coming to you for years!
Exactly lynn It’s disgusting how a person can hold such hate He is so venomous and rancorous Enough to make anyone a criminal Such a disgusting bad qualities And its funny when he said he doesn’t think much about brook ππππ Lol he absolutely forgot how he was almost obsessed with her Even his father once said good my son is interested in daisy so he will not make a move on my wife Thomas is still a child The should check if he needs diapers ππππ
@ Mmysh, so true! It’s the oldest trick in the book - to act like the other person barely enters your mind…when the truth is, they obsess (Thomas in this case) about ways to do the person harm. Thomas’ obsessive personality is just that!! OBSESSIVE!! When he’s not obsessing about how to make Hope his very own, he’s obsessing / fixating on how to destroy his stepmom! Thomas is a lying, obsessive narcissist!
Lynn, you must have missed the part where Thomas told his screwed up stepmom that what he did wasn't about her. If he was obssessed, it was with getting his parents back together. Lol.
Elle, I didn’t miss anything. Of course the king of liars is gonna deflect and say that. He is always looking for ways to stick it to Brooke. He said it himself, he thinks he had a bad stepmom and he’s determined to make things right. And Thomas’ way of making things right is to destroy Brooke. He wasn’t nearly as determined to get his parents back together until Brooke came to Eric’s telling Thomas that Douglas needed to come home. Wasn’t it YOU, Elle who has said about 25 times that Thomas felt pushed and so he retaliated!!??!!! And that’s the reason he did the fake CPS call. But now, because it suits your narrative, it was always just about “getting his parents back together”??? Come on Elle, pick a story. Don’t make this so easy for me!!! Lol
Exactly. If "Brooke had left well enough alone", he would have found another way. Thomas is a manipulator, highest grade I've seen on the show apart from Sheila. He's even better than Stephanie. Some people say Steffy is the new Stephanie but to me it's Thomas - he's also upgraded to current times and hates Brooke more than Steffy. Steffy is more like her mom (HT Taylor) - she dishes out at Brooke but doesn't go to those lengths to actively sabotage. And she has conscience.
Its so funny that when Thomas say something its exactly what he meant So we take his word for it But we don’t take brook‘s No brook always has another intentions behind her words πππ
Yes Lynn, I did say that about 25 times, maybe even more but I'm never ashamed to say that I was wrong. Now, it's clear that Thomas' Main focus was his parents and not Brooke.
Funny that people take Brooke, the biggest liar and manipulator, at her word but always suggest that Thomas is lying. Such hypocrites!
π it's not funny at all, Thomas is a sociopath and like his dad said, all that comes out of his mouth are lies. Thomas does outright criminal things every year since we've seen him grown-up. That goes hand in hand with lying. People just see that.
Exactly, Milla. And Elle, you never admitted you were wrong about Thomas’ intentions until I called you out on it just now. And as I said, because it suits your narrative. I will agree that Thomas had multiple motives…he hates Brooke and loves to sabotage her life. And he clearly wasn’t happy with her coming to Eric’s to try to get Douglas back, so he set her up. It also simply worked out as a bonus for him that it would also help serve as a way to make Ridge very angry at Brooke, which could help get his parents back together. As Milla pointed out, even Ridge said to his own son - “You lie every time you open your mouth!!!” Brooke does not even compare to Thomas’ ability to lie and deceive people!!!
Geez Lynn, I literally said NOW it's clear..... meaning that I am NOW admitting to being wrong. All the other times that I said it was before the actual reveal. My narrative, as you put it, was always that Brooke got what she deserved because she went after Thomas first. I never stated that Thomas was out to destroy Brooke. He reacted to what she did is what I kept saying. The only thing I did not say was that he did it for his parents and that's because it has only now been made clear that that is what his real intention was. So I'm not sure what you are calling me out on exactly.
For the life of me, I don’t understand why you take the words coming out of Thomas’ mouth as gospel. It’s clear and has been clear for years that most everything that comes out of Thomas’ mouth is a lie! His own family admits it. Why do you continue to believe him??? That’s the part that confounds me. It makes zero sense. You call Brooke a liar…and that’s hilarious in comparison. Ridge even trusts Brooke and that’s why he was so incredibly surprised that she would lie to his face about the CPS call. And he told her as much.
Elle, just look back on the times Thomas has tried to do Brooke harm. And then tell me honestly that you don’t think he’s out to get her. If you’re honest, you won’t be able to say it.
Elle, if you disagree, your wrong, if you agree you are still wrong, cause you didn’t agree the first time!!?? It’s never a win win love, it’s pointless and tiring trying to explain or argue.. I still maintain, that if Brooke didn’t keep sticking her nose in where it did not belong, lied and manipulated (knife), and make demand, and threats to call cps, it would not have happened.. is it very wrong what he did, absolutely.. But Brooke does what she always does, which is all of the above, then wonders why???
Brooke, I give you props for having the strength to actually thank Steffy. You could have gone in there angry and snarky as hell. But you actually held it together so nicely and thanked Steffy for her part in exposing Thomas. Even Steffy was taken back by the gratitude. Steffy has done everything in her power (short of breaking the law) to facilitate the reunion of her parents. Some of Steffy’s actions were outright nasty!!! But Brooke got past all that and simply thanked Steffy. But I’m sure the FF’s will figure out a way to make Brooke the villain even in this situation. ππππ Wait for it….. ππππππ
Steffy did everything in her power? She talked ad nauseum for months and blocked a phone call one time. πππ
The sooner Brooke stops pretending that her marriage is perfect and acknowledges that her husband walked out on her because of her own actions, the less inclined she'll be to blame Steffy, Thomas or Taylor.
πππ and maybe the sooner tay tay tell her hypocrite kids why their father left her maybe they will stop tje hate eating them ππ and they start to heal
Elle, did the wedding happen?? There’s your answer. The wedding DID NOT HAPPEN because the reason Ridge left Brooke was because of the CPS call. How many times are we gonna have this same discussion??!! And as far as Steffy is conserned…..most definitely she talked until ad nauseam, but she also staged getting her parents together (physically in the same room) by creating fake emergencies where Ridge had to rush over to her house, or things to celebrate (multiple dinners at Eric’s) when one family dinner was perfectly fine to celebrate Finn’s homecoming. Steffy was manipulating the situation to try to push a married man (Ridge) into Taylor’s arms. If it was Brooke doing something like that it would be straight up calculated manipulation in your eyes. But since it’s Steffy you act like she did nothing wrong! BULL SHIT!!!
Ridge walked out on Brooke looooong before the CPS call, Lynn. What are you talking about? Even when he moved back in, he still did not recommit to her.
Steffy MADE her father come over and had fun with his family. Yeah, Ridge seemed soooooo upset because he was FORCED to spend time with his family instead of his wife. ππ€£ππ€£ Ridge had already distanced himself from Brooke. He would get home, go to bed and leave the next morning without even talking to her. And the CPS call did not even happen as yet.
As for Brooke, she isn't that subtle so I know she would never do anything like that. Calculated manipulation is more her style.
Ridge has said to multiple people - including his Forrester family - that he and Brooke were working on their marriage. Just because they had recently encountered some bumps along the road does NOT mean Ridge was ready to throw in the towel on their marriage. He literally told that to his kids as well as Taylor. You must be watching an entirely different show.
And Brooke IS HIS FAMILY. And if Ridge wanted to spend time with his Forrester family, he shouldn’t need to be tricked into going over there. He’d simply go over there when he felt like it, not because Steffy calls him at the office and says “ Dad, you need to come to the house urgently!!” Like the place is on fire or something. Even Ridge walks in and looks confused and says…”What’s the emergency???!!!” And Steffy hands him some stupid glass of champagne cuz she wanted to “celebrate.” Give me a break, Elle!! Steffy is the queen of manipulation!!!
Having problems in your marriage is NORMAL. Ridge would NOT have asked for a divorce / annulment if Thomas hadn’t done what he did. That is not up for debate!
I just love this "he didn't recommit to her" π what is this, Victorian times? Is he supposed to take an oath when moving back? He's married aka committed. Serious wtf.
The only thing Lynn is now with his parents gone and Steffy focused on the Sheila of it all, I don't see anyone watching for Thomas' further "development" in the evil department. He will do more crap, that's for sure ππ
Milla, I hope not. I expect him to be further punished. If he isn’t, I will be sorely disappointed. I don’t think the story ends here with Thomas. Esp since Ridge and Brooke aren’t together, there’s only so much damage he can do. But you’re right, if he has a chance to screw Brooke even more, he’ll do it!!! Hence his obsession with destroying her!!
@Lynn he may be punished more and I expect this to drive him further into his Mr Hyde state. It will be kinda fun to watch and also to see how he will be defended here π
Lynn (@6:44 PM) Where did I say that Ridge was ready to give up on his marriage? I said he walked away from Brooke long before the CPS call which was in response to your comment that Ridge left Brooke because of the CPS call. If you don't want to acknowledge that truth, that's fine.
Lynn (@6:48 PM) Steffy did that ONE time and I still did not see Ridge get angry at her and rush home to his wife. He stayed and had a jolly good time while his wife was planning a surprise romantic dinner for him. And when he got home, he did not even wake her. He slipped into bed (assuming that they were sleeping in the same bed despite their issues), slept through the night then awoke the next morning and left without a word to his wife. Trying to blame Steffy for "manipulating" her dad and doing everything in her power to get her parents together only works if her father was an unwilling participant but, as we all know, Ridge was very willing. I remember how incensed the LFs were at Ridge's behaviour back then. He was called all sorts of names but now, Steffy is being blamed. Sigh.
Lynn (@6:51 PM) So you know what's in Ridge's mind where his life decisions are concerned? ππ Ridge was already thinking about whether he should stay in his marriage or be with his family. He even told Taylor that he never should have left his family. What's not up for debate, dear, is the FACT that we have no way of knowing what Ridge would have done if the CPS call did not happen.
@Milla In case you did not know, when a wife kisses a man who is not her husband, vows are broken, and when said husband walks out on her because she defended the same man she kissed, her commitment to her husband was shifted. When the husband starts spending time with his ex-wife, getting closer to her, sharing dinners with her and kissing her, his commitment to his wife was also shifted. So when the husband moves back into the marital home but still is not intimate with his wife and continues to spend time and share kisses with his ex-wife while spending minimum time with his wife, it is a clear sign that he did not recommit to her. To make things even worse, said husband got on a plane and flew to Aspen to tell his ex-wife that he wants to spend the rest of his life with her. No husband who is committed to his wife would do that.
And remind me when before CPS did he say he'd leave Brooke and be with Taylor? Like Lynn pointed out, before that he was basically just attending gatherings with Steffy and the others, and Taylor was sticking herself to him like a stamp. Not saying it is right he allowed it, but he never filed for divorce/annulment before he was manipulated. So no, no "recommitment" (whatever that even looks like, is it a speech, a document, does it involve a ritual sacrifice...) is mandatory to me. He just had to have more faith in his wife. And he's guilty of not doing that and now he's bitterly sorry.
And apropos their sex life - we can't know what was happening behind closed doors all this time. Just because once or twice he came to bed and left before Brooke was up, it's hilarious to assume they (of all people!) were celibate the whole time!
And he didn’t know about the romantic night his WIFE was preparing Because of steffy Maybe if he got the call he would have left and we went to his wife And steffy knows that otherwise she would blocked her call And brook didn’t went there and make a scene
@Milla Ridge was basically just attending gatherings with Steffy and the others? Hmm, I guess that is why he never felt the urge to invite his wife to these gatherings. Or why he encouraged (or allowed if you prefer to use that word) his ex-wife to snuggle up to him. Or why he felt the need to bare his soul to her about all his past mistakes and his regret for leaving his family to run after Brooke. Umm yeah, he basically just attended gatherings. Milla, sometimes you are just too much. Lol.
And for your further information, once vows are broken, the commitment to the marriage is also broken whether divorce/annulment papers are signed or not. That's why in law, there is something called legal separation or estrangement. Now Ridge may not have legally separated from Brooke, but for all intents and purposes, he was estranged from his wife because he was emotionally distant from her (and he did move out for a short period) and her purposeful act of defending Deacon over her own husband broke Ridge's trust of her. Their marriage was no longer one of a husband and wife being committed to each other. You don't have to admit that I am right, that's ok. Just giving you the information so that you are aware. We learn everyday.
Milla, so why did Brooke try planning a romantic dinner and the romantic getaway for her and Ridge? Because, according to her, it was time for them to get their marriage back on track. I believe she even told her sisters at one point that she was trying everything to get Ridge back was nothing was working. If they were being intimate, both you and I know that Brooke would have been rubbing that in Taylor's face. Just because you and the LFs try to make it seem like the Bridge marriage was intact does not make it true. That marriage was blown wide open after the Deacon fiasco.
"but for all intents and purposes, he was estranged from his wife because he was emotionally distant from her" - you obviously know about their marriage better than them, so well that you're writing even script that was never writen π If you show me a legal definition that requires a "recommitment" (and finally the form of that instrument because it's very dubious as of now) when someone was emotionally distant, I'll admit you have taught me something. For now all I learned is that it's obviously okay to speculate anything that suits us and present it like a lesson to the lesser minded.
And I know nothing of the sort that Brooke would rub anything into Taylor's face - why would she rub it in her face what she does with her own husband? And how would that conversation even go? π Taylor: I had a dinner with Ridge and the family Brooke: but I slept with him π
Honestly ππ π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️
And I don't remember anyone claiming the marriage was "intact". Lynn said that just because there are problems doesn't make it OK to attack a marriage and I said that - u like Taylor and Steffy - I understand the difference between "the CPS call was the*only* reason he went to Taylor" and "it had *nothing* to do with CPS". Still that "recommitment" you're insisting on is bullshit. He went back to his wife. Yes there were problems. But they remained married. Case closed.
Of course she wants to have a romantic evening with her husband, what's wrong with that? Just because you want to attack her at every turn for any real or mostly imagined reason? Ridge was not leaving her. I may be too much, but your arguments are so thin π Like I've said before, the blind hate here has no limits. Sad.
Thank you Mmysh for reminding me about that botched romantic night. Here I mostly blame Ridge for not looking after his phone, he knows from the past how Steffy and Thomas operate with it when they want to reunite their parents. All fair game.
And milla what is funny about the comments above Is that a kiss or drunken kiss is enough to break a marriage so Taylor and steffy wasn’t at any wrong This marriage is already over But sleeping with the father on low is a small thing and hope slept with a married man coz liam and steffy was still married on papers πππ So here the papers matter If we turned a blind eye that the annulment papers was already signed when hope and liam slept together And how could brook prepare a romantic night for her husband Since when married couples do that πππ
@ Elle, walking away to take some time to regroup and filing for divorce / annulment are NOT the same thing. So what exactly is your point ??? And Ridge should have gotten very angry with Steffy for doing that. Had he known exactly what Brooke had planned, he would have been more upset with Steffy for intercepting the call. Brooke never told Ridge the entire story, that she had planned a romantic evening for just the 2 of them. Brooke simply told Ridge she waited up for him and he didn’t come home until after she finally went to bed. And he left for the office before she woke up. And trust me when I say, the Brooke fans have been blaming Steffy, Thomas, Taylor and Ridge for very bad behavior for months!!! And yes, Ridge was having a good time with his Forrester family because he had no clue Brooke was waiting for him!!! Had he known, he would not have stayed there. And I couldn’t care less that Steffy did it “that one time”. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China??!!! She DID IT!!! That’s what matters. Whether she did it once or 50 times does not give Steffy a get out of jail free card!!!
And Elle, you are conveniently forgetting how Ridge would defend his WIFE, Brooke every time the harpies…Giggles and Steffy would start ripping on Brooke. Multiple times Ridge defended Brooke, called Brooke his wife and told his kids, Brooke and Taylor how much he loved Brooke. You sure do have a very convenient selective memory, Elle.
And we do have a way of knowing what would have happened if the CPS call hadn’t been made. He sat there and told Thomas he was working on his marriage to Brooke, then found out about the call. He told Thomas, you knew that would be something I could not forgive and that it would destroy my marriage. He literally told Thomas that. So I don’t think that leaves much to the imagination as to what would have happened if the CPS call had not been made. He told Brooke he loved her more than anything multiple times. But sadly, he thought she had betrayed him so he simply couldn’t live with that betrayal.
Now now, we are not “allowed” to keep bringing up the past!! Unless your a Lfan, and need to make a point, then nothing is said?? π€£π€£π€£π€£ Elle your 5.37pm comment , spot on!! But that conveniently gets forgotten, or yes, they “forced” him to go, AND stay, and not call or tell Brooke where he was or when he would be home, or talk to her when he got home, or in the morning?? It’s AAAALL the Forresters fault.. π€£π€£π€£ And they were also responsible for Brooke kissing Deacon, Brooke lying about it, Brooke hushing Douglas, Brooke not asking Deacon to leave while she was standing there in sexy lingerie, pressuring Deacon, and this is her words “come on Deacon, old buddy old pal, it’s newyears, stay and have a drink with me”!! That’s the forresters fault too, oh no, sorry that was Sheila’s fault, even though Brooke admitted she was sober enough to stop it, but “let it happen”, her words, not mine.. So Instead sending him away, she drinks all night with him, all the while dressed in sexy lingerie, which she could have changed out of, but I guess she felt comfortable, because he has seen her in it many times, while she was sleeping with him behind Bridgett’s back, while she was working long hard hours saving lives, and guess who’s fault that was??? Drum π₯ roll, you guessed it, the Forrester’s fault, especially Taylor’s cause she simply came back to town at that stage.. π€£π€£π€£ The Forresters are at fault for everything!! And yes Ell, she was pulling out all the stops to get her marriage back on track, but first she had to manipulate him in to leaving Eric’s and going home to him, by making promises she didn’t keep!! But after she broke her ankle, and he moved in to look after her and “take it moment by moment”, she had to try to get him into bed, which is her most successful way of getting him back and to forgive her, so hence the romantic dinner and trip, which didn’t happen, not because of Steffy, but because Ridge was having such a good time, it completely slipped his mind to call Brooke and let her know where he was., who with and when he would be home.. still didn’t when he got home and in the morning!! So what does that tell you?? That’s right, it’s the forresters fault.. No one put a gun to Ridges and forced him to do anything.. But all those lonely heart meetings with Liam, was “it’s Taylor’s fault” she is trying to come between me and Ridge”.. Nothing was ever Brookes own fault!! Albeit the cps call, but everything prior, was blamed on the forresters.. Brooke is NEVER the blame.. always the victim!! She has been a victim her entire life!! π€£π€£π€£
Elle, I don’t care if Steffy did it one time or 100 times. She intercepted the call from Brooke and prevented Ridge from even knowing that Brooke had planned a special evening for Ridge and herself. Since Ridge was none the wiser because his devious kids intercepted the call, of course he didn’t race home to be with Brooke. Had he known, he wouldn’t have been there hanging out with his Forrester family. Period.
Elle, get real - the Brooke fans have been blaming Steffy, Thomas, Taylor and Ridge for the bad behavior for months and months and months! Absolutely nothing changed there!
Elle, and we absolutely do know what would have happened if the CPS call hadn’t been faked by Thomas. Prior to the call Ridge told his entire Forrester family that he and Brooke were working things out in their marriage. Ridge was desperate to have Brooke tell him the truth about the call. That’s why he kept asking her to “Just say it!!” But she couldn’t because she had zero clue what he was talking about! As the Brooke fans have said over and over again, if Ridge wanted to marry Taylor - nothing would have stopped him. But he didn’t. He didn’t because his reasoning for wanting to marry Taylor in the first place was because she was supposed to be so honest that she would never lie to him. But that all changed when she was willing to lie to get that ring on her finger. Not to mention the fact that the reason he walked away from Brooke in the first place was due to something that never even occurred. The simple truth is - Ridge walked away from Taylor and the wedding no matter how hard you try to spin it into something else.
Yeah Elle, get real!! faking a pregnancy and miscarriage to hold on to a man is nowhere “near as bad” as intercepting a call??!! Perhaps if Ridge had have done what most husbands do, and called Brooks to let her know where he was and when he would be home, Steffy would have intercepted!! Not saying what Steffy did was not wrong, of course it was, but I will take a leaf from the Lfans book and say “but it was just a once off”, that’s a reasonable justification for them, so they should be ok with me using it!!
Elle, I do remember something Ridge said to Brooke when they were in the closet just after he punched on with Deacon.. He said some things but I will say what I remember, he said “he had to find out from a little boy”, and I clearly remember him saying “it’s all gone, nothing is sacred anymore”, then he moved out.. that tells me that, in Ridges mind, she broke her vows and everything thing that was once theirs, was no longer.. So, he felt the marriage was over because there was nothing left of it..
Finn is convinced that his mother isn't dead and he hasn't even known her for that long yet everyone else who has known Sheila for decades, readily believed that the bear mauled her. ππ
IKR!! π€£π€£π€£ Finn’s awesome!! I think everyone believed it because they wanted her dead so much they believed it.. But I think cause Finn is a doctor, he has been thinking about it, plus he knows how diabolically crazy she is, and remember when he spotted her in her disguise at the restaurant, you could tell he thought is was her, and I think it’s been bugging him since..
Yay ended on Sinn instead of logan for a change Brooke the hypocrite everything she said her abd Hope have done wrong Brooke worse than Thomas but because its a logan marriage crisis its oh poor me! Thank you Bob xxxx
Actually Brooke should have punched Thomas squarely across his face for doing what he did to her. But most importantly, she should call the authorities and have him arrested for impersonating her. She won’t though, because he’s Ridge’s son. But doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve it any less. All you Thomas fans better enjoy your time with him while you can. His day of complete reckoning is still coming. And my guess is that after that day comes, we won’t see much of Thomas for a while. So as I said, enjoy him while you can.
What is amazing lynn about the psycho murderer fans They like love him despite his criminal behavior and evil but hate brook for less Such hypocrisy And for mandy i wish i could watch the show she is watching πππ
Yes Mandy, only witch, *erhem*, I mean queen πΈ Brooke can stir the cauldron,*erhem*, I mean pot, and get away with it, walking away as the victim?? Oh, I am so sorry Bridgett, Katie, it wasnt my fault!! Truly, it was the outside forces, “I” am the victim here, not you!! “You”, should be feeling sorry for “ME”!! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
Ladies, it certainly is!! But what do you mean “today” D?? It’s every day!! π€£π€£ Yes, I love the way he handles her too.. He doesn’t tiptoe around like others! Straight to the point π€£π€£
Latasha ...he handles Brooke? We can all see how successful that has been for him.π ππ are you watching the same the same show as Mandy? You guys are hilarious, your hypocrisy is at such a level it amuses me. I suppose I should thank you for the laughs
The only person that Thomas is gonna be handing is himself. No naughty meaning intended. Lol Since absolutely NO ONE wants anything to do with him, Thomas is gonna be a very, very lonely boy!!! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
So Brooke did not want straight away Ridge back. But than why was she saying that she still believes in their relationship and love? she just wanted him to want her and then play hard to get.
Simply she wanted him to be only her‘s She refused to share him And she still love him so sure she wants him to get back to her but only her There is nothing wrong with that Coming from brook or any other women She is not playing hard to get
Sheila and deacon need new dialog and something else to do.
ReplyDeleteSheila needs to go shopping for some jogging π shoes. Now, that Finn & Steffy are thinking that she is alive, she will need proper footwear to cover her 9 toes πΎ while she is on the run!
DeleteLol. The little piggy that took one for the team is on the loose. Let's see how she cuts herself out of this one. π
DeleteD π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£ on the loose π€£π€£π€£
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DeleteFirst day watching after 3 weeks same shite WTF WOW
ReplyDeleteOh, yes. So Thomas is a sociopath. Maybe he should start a club with Sheila:)))
ReplyDeleteThey came close before the shooting, wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Both want Brooke gone equally π
DeleteI so enjoyed watching now I can't stand brook hope can't watch 5 min π« WOW WOW AND WOW PLEASE END THIS F IN SHOW LMAO STICK A FORK DONE
ReplyDeleteWhat means LMAO?
DeletePatologi, it is an abbreviation for the sentence Laughing My Ass Off, hence LMAO.. Bea123 πππ
DeleteWay to go Finn ❤️ I love it when someone on this show shows expertise and critical thinking, and so glad it's Cutie MD. He's smarter than the police (not that it's too hard, they are terrible, but he's doing their job better than them)
ReplyDeleteThomas is hilarious, so out of reality and yet I can't stop admirng that actor. πππΌloved that dialogue with Brooke.
Btw can it be that something is missing from the episode, shows me 16:54 min in total?
Ah no now it shows 19, all good.
DeleteI still can’t get over the fact that Sheila’s toes are length of fingers on a 12 year old child!!! ππππ
Delete@Lynn why are you creeping me out before bedtime πππ¦Άπ½on the bright side I expect the Queen of the damned to finally get active again π she's going crazy(ier) in that little apartment!
Delete@ Milla, π€£π€£π€£
DeleteYes, if Sheila is gonna re-enter the scene it will be nice to finally see some new dialogue. The same thing over and over again between her and Deacon is painful to watch.
@Lynn if the police and Finn start snooping around she'll definitely have more to say and do π wondering who she will kidnap this time - Steffy, Hays, Brooke, Thomas... Many options π exciting times are coming. And also I'm glad that Ridge took time off, I was so tired of his lacking dialogue skills (only exception when he let Thomas have it - he said all the things we were thinking)
DeleteMilla, yes, agree! Personally, I wouldn’t mind not seeing Ridge for months! When he returns it better only be to smack Thomas around some more! Lol. Other than that, I could do without seeing Ridge for MONTHS!!!
DeleteI agree crazy lady Sheila is gonna be a key character in episodes to come. Honestly, I’m still waiting for her to kidnap Hayes. I know vengeance is typically on Sheila’s mind, but more recently all she talks about is somehow managing to be a part of Finn’s and Hayes’ life. She already tried to hold Finn against his will. That worked out for her for a little while. And Hayes wouldn’t be able to put up quite the fight. Lol So he’s an easier target for her. I honestly thought she was gonna kidnap Hayes in previous episodes. So maybe it’s still coming.
Milla, even though what Thomas did was so wrong, he really made me laugh today.. His dialogue with Brooks is always humorous unless it gets really heated.. He is such a cutie!! Loved the banter!! When he is like that it’s hard to be mad at him..
DeleteSooo glad to see Finn back now.. I think what set him off was when he saw Sheila in her disguise at the restaurant.. do you remember, he got that look on his face.. I think it’s been eating at him since.. You would think a coroner would have had to do an examination on the toe and hair, which they did do, to verify it was her DNA 𧬠and hair, yet they didn’t pick up that the toe had clean cuts?? You would think they picked that up, especially when it comes to her!! But then if commonsense was used, there would be no story lines!!
Colly it's a soap, but yes all that should have been taken up with forensics.
DeleteI do remember that scene with Finn and also when Hope walked in on Deacon. She saw the resemblance. I just wish Deacon would hurry up and do something. Today he sounded like enough is enough. But she played little piggy.
@Colly yes I remember thinking the same, he definitely felt something! And started putting things together. And like Elle said, everyone around - Ridge, Taylor, Brooke, Eric - knows what she's capable of much better than Finn and yet readily believed, just based on a toe π€¦π»♀️ that she's dead. Wtf! What about bones? Do bears eat bones, all of them too (I really don't know, but somehow can't imagine them being able to stomach everything, at least a human skull may be hard?) All that's left is a toe and hair and tadaa she's dead π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️ both the police and the grownups should have applied more critical thinking.
DeleteAnd good that Dr Cutie is doing it ππΌ hope he doesn't suffer her wrath!
@Lynn exactly. Thomas has no remorse and that should tell everyone what they're dealing with. One of the hundreds of differences between this debacle and Brooke's out-of-this-world-shameful-kiss (irony) story. She was a wrack. Whatever is coming his way, will be well-deserved. He already got everyone mad at him and Douglas sent back to his mom. That's a good start. And somehow I know he's not done with his evil or crazy deeds. More is coming from him ππ
DeleteAnd Sheila - oh yes, I can totally see her kidnapping little Hayes. I'll feel awful for Steffy, no mother deserves that, Finn too, but he would get into action mode and find his son.
Milla, she was only a wreck because she was freaking out that Douglas would tell them π€£π€£π€£ i can’t believe you think that was “remorse”?? π€£π€£ I remember it clearly, when Hope told Brooke that Douglas was going to Steffies with Thomas, she freaked out and told Hope to get Thomas to bring him back to the cabin.. Then they ALL questioned Douglas to find out if he said anything, then Brooke asked Hope and Liam to give her a moment with Douglas, which is when she manipulated him to keep him quiet.. THATS what she was freaked out for.. She wanted time alone with Douglas so Hope and Liam wouldn’t stop her from doing what she did!! Not that they would have anyway, cause they went along with it and even lied for Brooke, lied to Thomas why he had to rush him home when they just got there.. that was NOT remorse.. Not once did Brooke show remorse for hushing Douglas.. Even when Ridge said to Brooke, after he beat up Deacon, in the closet, he said “i had to find out from a little boy”, Brooke said nothing.. at no time did Brooke shw remorse for hushing him.. And I don’t care what anyone says, it was just as bad as what Thomas did!! Just because she was a bit nicer about it, doesn’t make it less wrong.. The only difference was that what Thomas did was illegal!! That’s it..
Delete@ Milla, YES! Thank you for pointing out how Brooke was riddled with guilt and was going to tell Ridge, but his speech made her think twice. That was a conversation in their living room where Brooke was gonna tell him the truth. But he kept interrupting her and saying it wasn’t her fault. Then she lost her nerve. But the guilt from it all was eating her up!!
DeleteThe FF’s can’t point to even one second of Thomas feeling guilty for anything he’s done. He would do it all again - GLADLY - if given the chance. He has ZERO conscience. And as we have said many times - that is the true definition of a sociopath!!
Also, Steffy defended Brooke to Sheila, she knew it was wrong, and once again defended her.. At least Brooke thanked her this time π€£π€£π€£ Steffy and no other loving mother would deserve that!!
DeleteAnd Brooke was feeling guilty LONG LONG before she even was aware that Douglas knew anything!!! For weeks before that!
DeleteBrooke had ONE conversation where she sat Douglas on her lap and told him it was “in the past and nothing needed to be said about it.” That was it!!! Thomas threatened Douglas, got mad at Douglas, blamed the call on Douglas. And the conversations went on for days - multiple times. NOT EVEN IN THE SAME BALLPARK IN THE SAME TOWN as a comparison to what Brooke’s conversation with Douglas looked like. Maybe that’s why there was NO OUTRAGE about what Brooke said to Douglas vs the outrage that everyone is feeling toward Thomas for what he put Douglas through. Because even the characters on the show realize they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!!
DeleteBrooke’s guilt started immediately after the kiss happened. She did not know Douglas knew anything for a long while. Brooke felt GENUINE guilt for what she had done. And she questioned what made her drink about 500 times. All that happened before the Douglas thing was known.
DeleteThank you Lynn. It's worlds apart the two stories. There's no point even debating how guilty Brooke was it was all over her. Thomas is proud of himself for what he did, only thing he's mad is that it didn't work. He hurt his whole family and doesn't even see it, doesn't even care. Total socio. That settles it right there.
Delete@Colly you can't say with straight face that it's the same ππ a machination directed at sabotaging someone vs a kiss that wouldn't even happen without Sheila. Come on now, the Thomas defense must follow some basic laws of logic. The blind Brooke hate must have some days of eyes opened.
DeleteOr maybe it's just me π€·π»♀️
And brook was so ashamed of herself for drinking not only for the kiss
DeleteAnd again steffy confronted sheila was not to defend brook
She just like to call people out especially when she is right
If she did it only for brook she would have told her father or brook
She did really good in the thomas situation but again she said it herself it wasn’t for brook
Even Though brook was so grateful
True Mmysh. I am ready to stipulate to the fact that Steffy defended Brooke to Sheila but it has nothing to do with the current situations. I have already admitted that Steffy is acting with much more maturity and integrity than Thomas. He is straightforward malicious and keeps repeating he’s not sorry, not just that, he blames Steffy. And he will do more, I’m sure.
DeleteBtw I'm following the actor who plays Thomas on Instagram, he's so adorable with that smile ☺️and his caption "that actor you love to hate" makes him even more endearingπ₯°π€ he knows very well his character is... problematic π
DeleteMilla of course im not saying that steffy is like thomas
DeleteBut saying always that she sacrificed herself for brook is 100 % wrong
Even now what she did was so brave and good but it wasn’t about brook
So the endless comments how steffy sacrificed herself for brook and brook didn’t thank her is absurd
Actually its the other way around
Brook put herself on sheila‘s radar to protect steffy’s family
And steffy and Thomas always blaming brook for their parents divorce is totally wrong and say a lot about Taylor
Taylor asked ridge not to tell the kids te truth so she will not be embarrassed about her past
They don’t know their mother real past
Which is unfair
Maybe if they know they will let go of the hate they hold and starts to heal
Coz holding this much hate is a factor of how messed up they are
And how is Taylor the saint accept another woman to take the blame
Since she is the most caring and loving human being
The actor is really good i give him that
DeleteBut for me i don’t see him as an attractive guy
I remember him from the movie the blind side
If you have watched
Its was i guess his first role
He was just the parking guy in a restaurant sandra bullok and her family went to dinner at
He just took the car keys to park the car
So its really good he got a big roll like this so quickly
@ Mmysh, I thought the same thing about the incident when Brooke told Sheila to stay away from Steffy and her family…when Brooke saw Sheila at Il Gardino or whatever it’s called. Brooke was actually protective of / defending Steffy’s family. And that’s how the whole Sheila getting revenge on Brooke with the champagne bottle switch happened.
DeleteBrooks put herself on Sheila’s radar, not for Steffy, but because of herself!! She couldn’t resist the urge to go and stick it to her, while she was in handcuffs.. Brooks loooves to Bragg when she can!!
DeleteThat comment did not happen when Sheila was in handcuffs. It happened at that restaurant everyone on the show always goes to. Both Brooke and Sheila were standing by the bar when they ran into each other and Brooke told Sheila to stay away from Steffy and Steffy’s family. She absolutely was defending the Forresters from Shiela.
DeleteIt had absolutely nothing to do with Brooke bragging.
DeleteBragging πππ
DeleteAfter what she did to her
Make her lose a decade of sobriety
Its a big deal for alcoholic
But sure doesn’t apply to brook for you
And if brook was doing that for herself
So what she gained exactly
Even when steffy said she didn’t don’t for brook you insist she did
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I guess you know her better than herself ππ
Steffy looked so nice today, with minimal makeup.
ReplyDeleteShe's a beauty. I don't care for animal prints but she made it work.
DeleteAgree ladies. It won't take long for Fin to figure out the toe was surgically removed. Finally a different storyline.
DeleteSteffy is a beauty with or without makeup.
Margo - glad to see you are back. Some were afraid you had been scared away for good. I won’t mention any names. Lol.
DeleteAnyway, glad you are here. π
Steffy looked very pretty today. ❤️
DeleteNice to see you margo ❤️
DeleteThanks, y'all. I wasn't really scared off, just unhappy that I caused such dissension. Going forward, I will try to be more explicit in my wording. And, will try to read others' words with more care and not jump to conclusions. I promise!
DeleteMargo, the ones that stay tend to develop a pretty thick skin. Sometimes it gets heated. Lol.
DeleteBut you have every right to your comments. Whether you are a Forrester fan or Logan fan.
MargO, glad you came back love!! I have always enjoyed your comments, hope you come more often!! And yes, it was me Lynn discreetly pointed out, that was concerned you wouldn’t come back love!! You do have to get a thick skin to be here.. But it’s not necessary to walk on eggshells love, and you didn’t cause anything!!! just comment whatever you want to say.. people dont always agree, but you are welcomed by all here which is wonderful to see!!
DeleteMargo you don't have to be team " Logan or Forester ". Just a fan of some of the characters or the storyline .
DeleteAlso, I agree, I loved Steffies look today!! I am really not fussed on animal print, unless it’s a good one, often they can look trashy, but she looked great!! I have noticed they are doing her make up a lot more natural since she came back from maternity leave, and it’s much better I think!!
DeleteDon’t know why my comment didn’t post?? But MargO, so glad you came back love!! It was me who was concerned about you not wanting to come back, as Lynn oh so discreetly pointed out lol.. You didn’t cause any trouble love!! As ppl have said, your entitled to your opinions, and you certainly don’t have to walk on eggshells checking every word you say to make sure you don’t upset someone.. I as many others really enjoy your comments and hope you pop in more often.. ❤️ I agree, steffy looks great, they have been doing her makeup much more natural since she came back after maternity leave.. She has such natural beauty she doesn’t even need make up!!
DeleteColly, I did see your comment. But mainly I was referring to D when she addressed me and said the nasty comments turn lots of people away from the blog. This time I wasn’t actually calling you you out. Lol
DeleteJust ‘you’ not ‘you you’. Lol
DeleteMargO you seem very decent, I hope you stick around ππΌ
DeleteThanks for clarifying Lynn, lol, but D did not mention anyones name, she said that she had read that comments directed to non Logan lovers that stated those things, such as we r delusional, and foolish which Maur said and in denial which Hilary said, so she did not direct her comment at any one person, or mention names, just gave general comments from Lfans to any non Logan fan... which is fair enough, because all those things were said.. And as discussed before, others have left because of these types of comments and much worse.. Some have even come forward and stated that’s why they left.. there was one person who on the same day asked what FFS stood for because they see it in every comment!! And that is all they said!! So what does that say.. D is not wrong!!
DeleteColly, she was talking to me when she made the comment. She may have been directing her comment to me or it could have been more general. But she definitely was talking to me. Here’s a copy and paste of D’s comment I am referring to….
DeleteDDecember 1, 2022 at 8:31 AM
DeleteExcuse me...my name was mentioned Lynn. As a couple of the others posted on the previous blog. The berating and insulting comments are turning alot of people away from this blog. That's "pathetic"
And I called the FF’s delusional. If Maur said it too, then she and I have that in common. π¬
DeleteAnd I will say it definitely goes both ways. You have seen I’m sure, Logan fans say they used to be afraid to comment on the blog because a couple years back it was all Forrester fans who ruled the blog and they were afraid they’d get beat up if they defended Brooke. Multiple people have said that as well. So it definitely goes both ways.
DeleteI said they were delusional and I stand behind it. Anyone who can claim Taylor is the epitome of truth and integrity have clearly not been watching this show. Also, if you don't think Thomas is a sociopath, then you are not watching this show. Furthermore, the FF say things all the time about the Logans that I find offensive. Previously when I called some of them out for being bullies, they didn't give a shit or apologize, so why should I now? It's not going to happen. As y'all said, you need thick skin on this blog. If you are so enraged, then quit reading the blog. That's all I know to tell you
Delete@ Hilary, it seems we all called them delusional. ππππ
DeleteSo there must be some truth to it or we wouldn’t all say it to them. Lol
@Lynn, I know right!? Sometimes I think they're just pretending to believe some of the crap they write just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention when they contradict their own words. Smhπ Anyway, I think it's fun to chat with people about the soap and make funny and snarky observations.
Delete@ Hilary, ππ»ππ»ππ»
DeleteLfans have made people so distressed over a word they wrote, or misspelling a word, except if your a Logan fan that is, which has happened on several occasions, or over a comment and opinion they made, to the point they feel like they have to apologise or walk on eggshells.. they are having to defend themselves, or say they will be more conscious with checking what they write, or say they can delete their comment if it’s not acceptable for Lfans (note next page, Elizabeth).. One Ffan felt she had to change her name just so she could come back on here and hope no one would pick on her, because of nasty things said to her completely unprovoked mind you, and Hilary, since you chimed in on this thread, you know EXACTLY what I am talking about here, since you did call her a “troll that has mental issues”, for NO good reason, and she said NOTHING to anyone to provoke that level of nastiness, all she did wrong was say a word that all the Lfans didn’t like, so got to love your work Hilary, but sure, you stand by yourself like you just stated, and when she tried to come back under another name, she still copped it!! several people have come back on here to say the reason they left was because of Lfans, and many who used to be here have left, and that’s still not enough.. Pauline/barbera, aka, “troll from the valley, who has mental issues and failed English”, hasn’t been back!! So sure, ladies, you are so right, you should stand by your words??!! Be proud!!
DeleteThis is not YOUR blog Colly, so maybe stop acting like the dictator. I think you just can't stand it that I don't kiss your ass or apologize for having my own opinions. I don't need you to be a member of my fan club, and I'm definitely not a member of yours. I'm NEVER going to apologize for my opinions, and I'm not the kind of asshole who would expect anyone else to. I don't attack other bloggers, I talk about the show. You're the one I see always trying to start some bullshit. I'm over this with you π
DeleteHilary, did you miss the part where you called Pauline/Barbara a “troll with mental issues”?? π¬π¬π¬ You just said you don’t attack bloggers?? Maybe I am delusional π¬π¬ because I don’t remember her ever having talked to you or comment on one of your posts?? By all means, correct me if I am wrong?? To say you don’t attack bloggers when you blatantly made one of the most nasty comments on this blog to date, to a person completely unprovoked, for reasons, you can’t or won’t explain , is what you call delusional!! π¬ And yes, you are right!! I just can’t stand it, aaaand then you lost me after that?? Lynn has asked for an apology from me before, is she an asshole? π¬ And I don’t remember asking you or anyone else, for that matter, for an apology π€£π€£π€£ are you kidding, that would be the biggest waste of my time in all the years I have been on this earth!! And for the record, I wasn’t the one who started this!! ππ π€£π€£
DeleteSo Taylor and Ridge are both out of town to clear there minds, huh.
ReplyDeleteTheir**
DeleteWonder where Ridge & Taylor went... Did they use Bill's jet? Are they together? Inquiring minds want to know...
DeleteAnd that takes care of the theory that Ridge did not come back to let them know that the wedding is officially over. Seems they all know what's going on. Except for Brooke, of course. The look on her face when Steffy told her that her parents had left town. π
DeleteWould be interesting if Ridge and Taylor went off together and got married after all.
DeleteMaybe, Ridge & Taylor went to Vegas...
DeleteElle, π€£π€£π€£.. She did look a bit nervous π¬
DeleteNo one said they left town together. Lots of assumptions being made.
DeleteI think the Forester fans need to re-listen to exactly what Steffy said. She said, “That’s why my dad left town to do some real soul searching. Same with my mom.” She wouldn’t have said it that way if she thought for a minute they had GONE TOGETHER. Steffy would have said….my parents left town together to figure things out. And she would have definitely thrown that in Brooke’s face. And there was no reaction by Brooke because of what Steffy said. The only reaction is Brooke being surprised that Steffy is so naive to think that Ridge and Taylor still have a chance together.
DeleteI mean come on ladies, think about it!! If Taylor knew she and Ridge were leaving together to “figure things out” that whole exit from Eric’s house would have looked totally different. And Taylor wouldn’t have looked like her dog just got hit by a car. She would have been happy and giggly like she always is when she thinks Ridge is hers. That was NOT the case, and Taylor looked devastated when she left Eric’s.
Taylor and Ridge did NOT leave town together. They are both doing their alone time “soul searching”, just like Brooke is doing.
Lynn seriously are you entertaining this speculation? π it's one of the most absurd things I've read recently - that they left together. It's so outrageous I first thought it's a joke π
DeleteMilla, RIGHT??!! They are desperately grasping at straws here. But I think they are serious. And that makes it even more funny to me! Just one more time we’ll be able to say…NOPE!!!
Delete@ Milla, looks like my comment didn’t post. I said in response.,..I know it’s nuts that they could draw that conclusion. And I think they are “serious.” All it’s gonna do is give us another opportunity to say NOPE!!!! But they are wanting / hoping to make it look like Ridge still wants Taylor. But we know that ship π³ has sailed!!
DeleteThey are joking around??
DeleteSo Taylor and ridge left without thinking of getting help for thomas
DeleteWow such a good parents
@Colly I hope so π
DeleteI think everyone knows that they left separately.
DeleteGood point Mmysh. Taylor the world renowned psychiatrist at the very least should have referred Thomas to someone. I can understand why Ridge didn't, because he was disgusted with Thomas. But mommy Tay Tay wasn't! I surprised she didn't take her boy angel with her π
DeleteYes hilary because all Taylor care about being ridge’s wife
DeleteShe even abandoned her children when they needed her the most because she couldn’t be ridge’s wife
Mmysh, Hilary is correct….you made an excellent point about Ridge and Giggles both abandoning Thomas when everyone knows he is in desperate need of real psychiatric care!! Wow! And yes…Taylor should really know better than to leave Thomas to his own devices. But then we all know Taylor couldn’t shrink her way out of a paper bag. So I guess it really shouldn’t shock us too much that she bailed. Lol
DeleteSome of my comments didn’t post - so retyping. Ugh.
DeleteMmysh and Hilary, such a valid point about Taylor (the psychiatrist lol) - bailed on her son knowing he’s in desperate need of real psychological help. She’s definitely not getting the mother of the year or the psychiatrist of the year award!!!! π€£π€£π€£π€£
Just more examples of how Taylor fails in every way in her profession!!
@Milla This scene should have been played for "Halloween", that would have been the best time to show a cut toeπ Now Finn is playing detective π΅️♂️. Oh, by the way, have you heard the news that our "Villain Bill is coming back" he is going to be wearing that sword of his again.
ReplyDeleteOh that's good news, I always liked those swords and how him and his sons all wore them ⚔️ and good for Bill, I mean not condoning whatever bad thing he'll be up to, but it will be more exciting plus it's not like him to wallow in booze and self-pity. He needs a goal πͺπΌπͺπΌ
Delete@Milla The writers are thinking of Bill using Thomas to revenge Ridge (Does that storyline sound familiar from a past episode), their idea is Bill learns what Thomas did to Brooke and Ridge's marriage, and once he finds that Thomas has been fired, he might have a proposition for Thomas to get back at Ridge. π€ What do you think the writers going there, Milla?
Delete@Elizabeth yes I remember you told me that is expected to happen! Maybe they team up to ensure Brooke doesn't get back together with Ridge! Or Bill hires him in the firm in some rival capacity. But let's see, so many of these spoilers never come true. I do believe that Bill will return though and with some more powerful and present role.
DeleteBrooke! What's going on?
ReplyDeleteLol hiccup?
Screwed up step mom
Love Thomas! ❤️
DeleteI found that scene hilarious π€£π€£π€£ gotta love him bad or not!! Those faces he pulled and that squeaky voice π€£π€£π€£
DeleteOMG Colly, the voice! π€£π€£π€£π€£
DeleteElle, I laughed so hard.. He cracks me up!! You gotta give him some credit!! Even when he is wrong, he manages to make Brooke look so stupid!! She always gets this stumped look π on her face.. I swear sometimes she looks like she wants to laugh!! I think he throws his own stuff in because I have seen KKL look like she wants laugh..
DeleteThomas is so damn pathetic with his stepmom insult. Own your crap you psychopath!!! Thomas your pain is only just beginning. Just like Brooke said, you are finally gonna pay!!!! This one took things too far, you evil, conniving, scheming, psychopathic narcissist!!! Thomas you are minutes away from finally getting what’s been coming to you for years!
ReplyDeleteExactly lynn
DeleteIt’s disgusting how a person can hold such hate
He is so venomous and rancorous
Enough to make anyone a criminal
Such a disgusting bad qualities
And its funny when he said he doesn’t think much about brook ππππ
Lol he absolutely forgot how he was almost obsessed with her
Even his father once said good my son is interested in daisy so he will not make a move on my wife
Thomas is still a child
The should check if he needs diapers ππππ
@ Mmysh, so true! It’s the oldest trick in the book - to act like the other person barely enters your mind…when the truth is, they obsess (Thomas in this case) about ways to do the person harm. Thomas’ obsessive personality is just that!! OBSESSIVE!! When he’s not obsessing about how to make Hope his very own, he’s obsessing / fixating on how to destroy his stepmom! Thomas is a lying, obsessive narcissist!
DeleteLynn, you must have missed the part where Thomas told his screwed up stepmom that what he did wasn't about her. If he was obssessed, it was with getting his parents back together. Lol.
DeleteElle, I didn’t miss anything. Of course the king of liars is gonna deflect and say that. He is always looking for ways to stick it to Brooke. He said it himself, he thinks he had a bad stepmom and he’s determined to make things right. And Thomas’ way of making things right is to destroy Brooke. He wasn’t nearly as determined to get his parents back together until Brooke came to Eric’s telling Thomas that Douglas needed to come home. Wasn’t it YOU, Elle who has said about 25 times that Thomas felt pushed and so he retaliated!!??!!! And that’s the reason he did the fake CPS call. But now, because it suits your narrative, it was always just about “getting his parents back together”??? Come on Elle, pick a story. Don’t make this so easy for me!!! Lol
DeleteExactly. If "Brooke had left well enough alone", he would have found another way. Thomas is a manipulator, highest grade I've seen on the show apart from Sheila. He's even better than Stephanie. Some people say Steffy is the new Stephanie but to me it's Thomas - he's also upgraded to current times and hates Brooke more than Steffy. Steffy is more like her mom (HT Taylor) - she dishes out at Brooke but doesn't go to those lengths to actively sabotage. And she has conscience.
DeleteIts so funny that when Thomas say something its exactly what he meant
DeleteSo we take his word for it
But we don’t take brook‘s
No brook always has another intentions behind her words πππ
Yes Lynn, I did say that about 25 times, maybe even more but I'm never ashamed to say that I was wrong. Now, it's clear that Thomas' Main focus was his parents and not Brooke.
DeleteFunny that people take Brooke, the biggest liar and manipulator, at her word but always suggest that Thomas is lying. Such hypocrites!
π it's not funny at all, Thomas is a sociopath and like his dad said, all that comes out of his mouth are lies. Thomas does outright criminal things every year since we've seen him grown-up. That goes hand in hand with lying. People just see that.
DeleteExactly, Milla. And Elle, you never admitted you were wrong about Thomas’ intentions until I called you out on it just now. And as I said, because it suits your narrative.
DeleteI will agree that Thomas had multiple motives…he hates Brooke and loves to sabotage her life. And he clearly wasn’t happy with her coming to Eric’s to try to get Douglas back, so he set her up. It also simply worked out as a bonus for him that it would also help serve as a way to make Ridge very angry at Brooke, which could help get his parents back together.
As Milla pointed out, even Ridge said to his own son - “You lie every time you open your mouth!!!” Brooke does not even compare to Thomas’ ability to lie and deceive people!!!
DeleteGeez Lynn, I literally said NOW it's clear..... meaning that I am NOW admitting to being wrong. All the other times that I said it was before the actual reveal. My narrative, as you put it, was always that Brooke got what she deserved because she went after Thomas first. I never stated that Thomas was out to destroy Brooke. He reacted to what she did is what I kept saying. The only thing I did not say was that he did it for his parents and that's because it has only now been made clear that that is what his real intention was. So I'm not sure what you are calling me out on exactly.
For the life of me, I don’t understand why you take the words coming out of Thomas’ mouth as gospel. It’s clear and has been clear for years that most everything that comes out of Thomas’ mouth is a lie! His own family admits it. Why do you continue to believe him??? That’s the part that confounds me. It makes zero sense.
DeleteYou call Brooke a liar…and that’s hilarious in comparison. Ridge even trusts Brooke and that’s why he was so incredibly surprised that she would lie to his face about the CPS call. And he told her as much.
Elle, just look back on the times Thomas has tried to do Brooke harm. And then tell me honestly that you don’t think he’s out to get her. If you’re honest, you won’t be able to say it.
Delete*Just look back at all the times….
DeleteElle, if you disagree, your wrong, if you agree you are still wrong, cause you didn’t agree the first time!!?? It’s never a win win love, it’s pointless and tiring trying to explain or argue.. I still maintain, that if Brooke didn’t keep sticking her nose in where it did not belong, lied and manipulated (knife), and make demand, and threats to call cps, it would not have happened.. is it very wrong what he did, absolutely.. But Brooke does what she always does, which is all of the above, then wonders why???
DeleteBrooke, I give you props for having the strength to actually thank Steffy. You could have gone in there angry and snarky as hell. But you actually held it together so nicely and thanked Steffy for her part in exposing Thomas. Even Steffy was taken back by the gratitude. Steffy has done everything in her power (short of breaking the law) to facilitate the reunion of her parents. Some of Steffy’s actions were outright nasty!!! But Brooke got past all that and simply thanked Steffy. But I’m sure the FF’s will figure out a way to make Brooke the villain even in this situation. ππππ
ReplyDeleteWait for it….. ππππππ
Steffy did everything in her power? She talked ad nauseum for months and blocked a phone call one time. πππ
DeleteThe sooner Brooke stops pretending that her marriage is perfect and acknowledges that her husband walked out on her because of her own actions, the less inclined she'll be to blame Steffy, Thomas or Taylor.
πππ and maybe the sooner tay tay tell her hypocrite kids why their father left her maybe they will stop tje hate eating them ππ and they start to heal
DeleteElle, did the wedding happen?? There’s your answer. The wedding DID NOT HAPPEN because the reason Ridge left Brooke was because of the CPS call. How many times are we gonna have this same discussion??!!
DeleteAnd as far as Steffy is conserned…..most definitely she talked until ad nauseam, but she also staged getting her parents together (physically in the same room) by creating fake emergencies where Ridge had to rush over to her house, or things to celebrate (multiple dinners at Eric’s) when one family dinner was perfectly fine to celebrate Finn’s homecoming. Steffy was manipulating the situation to try to push a married man (Ridge) into Taylor’s arms. If it was Brooke doing something like that it would be straight up calculated manipulation in your eyes. But since it’s Steffy you act like she did nothing wrong! BULL SHIT!!!
Ridge walked out on Brooke looooong before the CPS call, Lynn. What are you talking about? Even when he moved back in, he still did not recommit to her.
DeleteSteffy MADE her father come over and had fun with his family. Yeah, Ridge seemed soooooo upset because he was FORCED to spend time with his family instead of his wife. ππ€£ππ€£ Ridge had already distanced himself from Brooke. He would get home, go to bed and leave the next morning without even talking to her. And the CPS call did not even happen as yet.
As for Brooke, she isn't that subtle so I know she would never do anything like that. Calculated manipulation is more her style.
Ridge has said to multiple people - including his Forrester family - that he and Brooke were working on their marriage. Just because they had recently encountered some bumps along the road does NOT mean Ridge was ready to throw in the towel on their marriage. He literally told that to his kids as well as Taylor. You must be watching an entirely different show.
DeleteAnd Brooke IS HIS FAMILY. And if Ridge wanted to spend time with his Forrester family, he shouldn’t need to be tricked into going over there. He’d simply go over there when he felt like it, not because Steffy calls him at the office and says “ Dad, you need to come to the house urgently!!” Like the place is on fire or something. Even Ridge walks in and looks confused and says…”What’s the emergency???!!!” And Steffy hands him some stupid glass of champagne cuz she wanted to “celebrate.” Give me a break, Elle!! Steffy is the queen of manipulation!!!
DeleteHaving problems in your marriage is NORMAL. Ridge would NOT have asked for a divorce / annulment if Thomas hadn’t done what he did. That is not up for debate!
DeleteI just love this "he didn't recommit to her" π what is this, Victorian times? Is he supposed to take an oath when moving back? He's married aka committed. Serious wtf.
DeleteAnd very good point about Steffy's cute staged gatherings, it was so "Parent Trap" π
Delete@ Milla, π€£π€£π€£ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»
DeleteThe only thing Lynn is now with his parents gone and Steffy focused on the Sheila of it all, I don't see anyone watching for Thomas' further "development" in the evil department. He will do more crap, that's for sure ππ
DeleteMilla, I hope not. I expect him to be further punished. If he isn’t, I will be sorely disappointed. I don’t think the story ends here with Thomas. Esp since Ridge and Brooke aren’t together, there’s only so much damage he can do. But you’re right, if he has a chance to screw Brooke even more, he’ll do it!!! Hence his obsession with destroying her!!
Delete@Lynn he may be punished more and I expect this to drive him further into his Mr Hyde state. It will be kinda fun to watch and also to see how he will be defended here π
DeleteLynn (@6:44 PM) Where did I say that Ridge was ready to give up on his marriage? I said he walked away from Brooke long before the CPS call which was in response to your comment that Ridge left Brooke because of the CPS call. If you don't want to acknowledge that truth, that's fine.
DeleteLynn (@6:48 PM) Steffy did that ONE time and I still did not see Ridge get angry at her and rush home to his wife. He stayed and had a jolly good time while his wife was planning a surprise romantic dinner for him. And when he got home, he did not even wake her. He slipped into bed (assuming that they were sleeping in the same bed despite their issues), slept through the night then awoke the next morning and left without a word to his wife. Trying to blame Steffy for "manipulating" her dad and doing everything in her power to get her parents together only works if her father was an unwilling participant but, as we all know, Ridge was very willing. I remember how incensed the LFs were at Ridge's behaviour back then. He was called all sorts of names but now, Steffy is being blamed. Sigh.
DeleteLynn (@6:51 PM) So you know what's in Ridge's mind where his life decisions are concerned? ππ Ridge was already thinking about whether he should stay in his marriage or be with his family. He even told Taylor that he never should have left his family. What's not up for debate, dear, is the FACT that we have no way of knowing what Ridge would have done if the CPS call did not happen.
Delete@Milla In case you did not know, when a wife kisses a man who is not her husband, vows are broken, and when said husband walks out on her because she defended the same man she kissed, her commitment to her husband was shifted. When the husband starts spending time with his ex-wife, getting closer to her, sharing dinners with her and kissing her, his commitment to his wife was also shifted. So when the husband moves back into the marital home but still is not intimate with his wife and continues to spend time and share kisses with his ex-wife while spending minimum time with his wife, it is a clear sign that he did not recommit to her. To make things even worse, said husband got on a plane and flew to Aspen to tell his ex-wife that he wants to spend the rest of his life with her. No husband who is committed to his wife would do that.
DeleteAnd remind me when before CPS did he say he'd leave Brooke and be with Taylor? Like Lynn pointed out, before that he was basically just attending gatherings with Steffy and the others, and Taylor was sticking herself to him like a stamp. Not saying it is right he allowed it, but he never filed for divorce/annulment before he was manipulated. So no, no "recommitment" (whatever that even looks like, is it a speech, a document, does it involve a ritual sacrifice...) is mandatory to me. He just had to have more faith in his wife. And he's guilty of not doing that and now he's bitterly sorry.
DeleteAnd apropos their sex life - we can't know what was happening behind closed doors all this time. Just because once or twice he came to bed and left before Brooke was up, it's hilarious to assume they (of all people!) were celibate the whole time!
DeleteAnd he didn’t know about the romantic night his WIFE was preparing
DeleteBecause of steffy
Maybe if he got the call he would have left and we went to his wife
And steffy knows that otherwise she would blocked her call
And brook didn’t went there and make a scene
@Milla Ridge was basically just attending gatherings with Steffy and the others? Hmm, I guess that is why he never felt the urge to invite his wife to these gatherings. Or why he encouraged (or allowed if you prefer to use that word) his ex-wife to snuggle up to him. Or why he felt the need to bare his soul to her about all his past mistakes and his regret for leaving his family to run after Brooke. Umm yeah, he basically just attended gatherings. Milla, sometimes you are just too much. Lol.
DeleteAnd for your further information, once vows are broken, the commitment to the marriage is also broken whether divorce/annulment papers are signed or not. That's why in law, there is something called legal separation or estrangement. Now Ridge may not have legally separated from Brooke, but for all intents and purposes, he was estranged from his wife because he was emotionally distant from her (and he did move out for a short period) and her purposeful act of defending Deacon over her own husband broke Ridge's trust of her. Their marriage was no longer one of a husband and wife being committed to each other. You don't have to admit that I am right, that's ok. Just giving you the information so that you are aware. We learn everyday.
Milla, so why did Brooke try planning a romantic dinner and the romantic getaway for her and Ridge? Because, according to her, it was time for them to get their marriage back on track. I believe she even told her sisters at one point that she was trying everything to get Ridge back was nothing was working. If they were being intimate, both you and I know that Brooke would have been rubbing that in Taylor's face. Just because you and the LFs try to make it seem like the Bridge marriage was intact does not make it true. That marriage was blown wide open after the Deacon fiasco.
Delete"but for all intents and purposes, he was estranged from his wife because he was emotionally distant from her" - you obviously know about their marriage better than them, so well that you're writing even script that was never writen π If you show me a legal definition that requires a "recommitment" (and finally the form of that instrument because it's very dubious as of now) when someone was emotionally distant, I'll admit you have taught me something. For now all I learned is that it's obviously okay to speculate anything that suits us and present it like a lesson to the lesser minded.
DeleteAnd I know nothing of the sort that Brooke would rub anything into Taylor's face - why would she rub it in her face what she does with her own husband? And how would that conversation even go? π
Taylor: I had a dinner with Ridge and the family
Brooke: but I slept with him π
Honestly ππ π€¦π»♀️π€¦π»♀️
And I don't remember anyone claiming the marriage was "intact". Lynn said that just because there are problems doesn't make it OK to attack a marriage and I said that - u like Taylor and Steffy - I understand the difference between "the CPS call was the*only* reason he went to Taylor" and "it had *nothing* to do with CPS". Still that "recommitment" you're insisting on is bullshit. He went back to his wife. Yes there were problems. But they remained married. Case closed.
Of course she wants to have a romantic evening with her husband, what's wrong with that? Just because you want to attack her at every turn for any real or mostly imagined reason? Ridge was not leaving her.
I may be too much, but your arguments are so thin π
Like I've said before, the blind hate here has no limits. Sad.
Thank you Mmysh for reminding me about that botched romantic night. Here I mostly blame Ridge for not looking after his phone, he knows from the past how Steffy and Thomas operate with it when they want to reunite their parents. All fair game.
DeleteAnd milla what is funny about the comments above
DeleteIs that a kiss or drunken kiss is enough to break a marriage so Taylor and steffy wasn’t at any wrong
This marriage is already over
But sleeping with the father on low is a small thing and hope slept with a married man coz liam and steffy was still married on papers πππ
So here the papers matter
If we turned a blind eye that the annulment papers was already signed when hope and liam slept together
And how could brook prepare a romantic night for her husband
Since when married couples do that πππ
@ Elle, walking away to take some time to regroup and filing for divorce / annulment are NOT the same thing. So what exactly is your point ???
DeleteAnd Ridge should have gotten very angry with Steffy for doing that. Had he known exactly what Brooke had planned, he would have been more upset with Steffy for intercepting the call. Brooke never told Ridge the entire story, that she had planned a romantic evening for just the 2 of them. Brooke simply told Ridge she waited up for him and he didn’t come home until after she finally went to bed. And he left for the office before she woke up.
And trust me when I say, the Brooke fans have been blaming Steffy, Thomas, Taylor and Ridge for very bad behavior for months!!!
And yes, Ridge was having a good time with his Forrester family because he had no clue Brooke was waiting for him!!! Had he known, he would not have stayed there. And I couldn’t care less that Steffy did it “that one time”. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China??!!! She DID IT!!! That’s what matters. Whether she did it once or 50 times does not give Steffy a get out of jail free card!!!
And Elle, you are conveniently forgetting how Ridge would defend his WIFE, Brooke every time the harpies…Giggles and Steffy would start ripping on Brooke. Multiple times Ridge defended Brooke, called Brooke his wife and told his kids, Brooke and Taylor how much he loved Brooke. You sure do have a very convenient selective memory, Elle.
DeleteAnd we do have a way of knowing what would have happened if the CPS call hadn’t been made. He sat there and told Thomas he was working on his marriage to Brooke, then found out about the call. He told Thomas, you knew that would be something I could not forgive and that it would destroy my marriage. He literally told Thomas that. So I don’t think that leaves much to the imagination as to what would have happened if the CPS call had not been made. He told Brooke he loved her more than anything multiple times. But sadly, he thought she had betrayed him so he simply couldn’t live with that betrayal.
DeleteNow now, we are not “allowed” to keep bringing up the past!! Unless your a Lfan, and need to make a point, then nothing is said?? π€£π€£π€£π€£ Elle your 5.37pm comment , spot on!! But that conveniently gets forgotten, or yes, they “forced” him to go, AND stay, and not call or tell Brooke where he was or when he would be home, or talk to her when he got home, or in the morning?? It’s AAAALL the Forresters fault.. π€£π€£π€£ And they were also responsible for Brooke kissing Deacon, Brooke lying about it, Brooke hushing Douglas, Brooke not asking Deacon to leave while she was standing there in sexy lingerie, pressuring Deacon, and this is her words “come on Deacon, old buddy old pal, it’s newyears, stay and have a drink with me”!! That’s the forresters fault too, oh no, sorry that was Sheila’s fault, even though Brooke admitted she was sober enough to stop it, but “let it happen”, her words, not mine.. So Instead sending him away, she drinks all night with him, all the while dressed in sexy lingerie, which she could have changed out of, but I guess she felt comfortable, because he has seen her in it many times, while she was sleeping with him behind Bridgett’s back, while she was working long hard hours saving lives, and guess who’s fault that was??? Drum π₯ roll, you guessed it, the Forrester’s fault, especially Taylor’s cause she simply came back to town at that stage.. π€£π€£π€£ The Forresters are at fault for everything!! And yes Ell, she was pulling out all the stops to get her marriage back on track, but first she had to manipulate him in to leaving Eric’s and going home to him, by making promises she didn’t keep!! But after she broke her ankle, and he moved in to look after her and “take it moment by moment”, she had to try to get him into bed, which is her most successful way of getting him back and to forgive her, so hence the romantic dinner and trip, which didn’t happen, not because of Steffy, but because Ridge was having such a good time, it completely slipped his mind to call Brooke and let her know where he was., who with and when he would be home.. still didn’t when he got home and in the morning!! So what does that tell you?? That’s right, it’s the forresters fault.. No one put a gun to Ridges and forced him to do anything.. But all those lonely heart meetings with Liam, was “it’s Taylor’s fault” she is trying to come between me and Ridge”.. Nothing was ever Brookes own fault!! Albeit the cps call, but everything prior, was blamed on the forresters.. Brooke is NEVER the blame.. always the victim!! She has been a victim her entire life!! π€£π€£π€£
DeleteElle, I don’t care if Steffy did it one time or 100 times. She intercepted the call from Brooke and prevented Ridge from even knowing that Brooke had planned a special evening for Ridge and herself. Since Ridge was none the wiser because his devious kids intercepted the call, of course he didn’t race home to be with Brooke. Had he known, he wouldn’t have been there hanging out with his Forrester family. Period.
DeleteElle, get real - the Brooke fans have been blaming Steffy, Thomas, Taylor and Ridge for the bad behavior for months and months and months! Absolutely nothing changed there!
DeleteElle, and we absolutely do know what would have happened if the CPS call hadn’t been faked by Thomas. Prior to the call Ridge told his entire Forrester family that he and Brooke were working things out in their marriage. Ridge was desperate to have Brooke tell him the truth about the call. That’s why he kept asking her to “Just say it!!” But she couldn’t because she had zero clue what he was talking about! As the Brooke fans have said over and over again, if Ridge wanted to marry Taylor - nothing would have stopped him. But he didn’t. He didn’t because his reasoning for wanting to marry Taylor in the first place was because she was supposed to be so honest that she would never lie to him. But that all changed when she was willing to lie to get that ring on her finger. Not to mention the fact that the reason he walked away from Brooke in the first place was due to something that never even occurred. The simple truth is - Ridge walked away from Taylor and the wedding no matter how hard you try to spin it into something else.
DeleteYeah Elle, get real!! faking a pregnancy and miscarriage to hold on to a man is nowhere “near as bad” as intercepting a call??!! Perhaps if Ridge had have done what most husbands do, and called Brooks to let her know where he was and when he would be home, Steffy would have intercepted!! Not saying what Steffy did was not wrong, of course it was, but I will take a leaf from the Lfans book and say “but it was just a once off”, that’s a reasonable justification for them, so they should be ok with me using it!!
DeleteWouldn’t have*
DeleteElle, I do remember something Ridge said to Brooke when they were in the closet just after he punched on with Deacon.. He said some things but I will say what I remember, he said “he had to find out from a little boy”, and I clearly remember him saying “it’s all gone, nothing is sacred anymore”, then he moved out.. that tells me that, in Ridges mind, she broke her vows and everything thing that was once theirs, was no longer.. So, he felt the marriage was over because there was nothing left of it..
DeleteI am quite new here. What means LMAO?
ReplyDeleteIt stands for ‘Laugh my ass off.’
Delete@Patologi Its an abbreviation word for Laugh my A** Off
DeleteOh Thomas! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Loved him today!
ReplyDeleteFinn is convinced that his mother isn't dead and he hasn't even known her for that long yet everyone else who has known Sheila for decades, readily believed that the bear mauled her. ππ
IKR!! π€£π€£π€£ Finn’s awesome!! I think everyone believed it because they wanted her dead so much they believed it.. But I think cause Finn is a doctor, he has been thinking about it, plus he knows how diabolically crazy she is, and remember when he spotted her in her disguise at the restaurant, you could tell he thought is was her, and I think it’s been bugging him since..
DeleteYay ended on Sinn instead of logan for a change
ReplyDeleteBrooke the hypocrite everything she said her abd Hope have done wrong
Brooke worse than Thomas but because its a logan marriage crisis its oh poor me!
Thank you Bob xxxx
Yeah the psycho murderer is better
DeleteSpeaking of hypocrisy πππππ
Love you Mmysh. You always hit the nail on the head!!! πππ
DeleteThank you maur i love you too
DeleteFor mandy if a class was broken in her house it’s brook‘s fault ππ
I love you too Mmysh π€£π€£π€£π€£
DeleteOh you poor thing colly
DeleteAre you that childish πππ
Coming from the one who call people „love“
Just stop embarrassing your self
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No Brooke did what she always does 2 edged sword Logans are hypocrites
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DeleteActually Brooke should have punched Thomas squarely across his face for doing what he did to her. But most importantly, she should call the authorities and have him arrested for impersonating her. She won’t though, because he’s Ridge’s son. But doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve it any less. All you Thomas fans better enjoy your time with him while you can. His day of complete reckoning is still coming. And my guess is that after that day comes, we won’t see much of Thomas for a while.
DeleteSo as I said, enjoy him while you can.
What is amazing lynn about the psycho murderer fans
DeleteThey like love him despite his criminal behavior and evil but hate brook for less
Such hypocrisy
And for mandy i wish i could watch the show she is watching πππ
Mandy, Brooke loves to stir the pot but hate when it's being done to her. She's the queen of hypocrites for sure.
DeleteLynn and Mmysh, I don't even need to comment because you two write everything I'm thinking π I agree with everything you girls say!!ππ
Delete@ Hilary. lol. ❤️❤️❤️
DeleteHilary, lynn lol π
DeleteYes Mandy, only witch, *erhem*, I mean queen πΈ Brooke can stir the cauldron,*erhem*, I mean pot, and get away with it, walking away as the victim?? Oh, I am so sorry Bridgett, Katie, it wasnt my fault!! Truly, it was the outside forces, “I” am the victim here, not you!! “You”, should be feeling sorry for “ME”!! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
DeleteI just love Thomas the way he handles Brooke.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't give a flying fig about her. As far as he's concerned, she could kiss his behind! π€£π€£ Love Thomas!
DeleteHypocrisy is the word of the day Elle. π€£ smh
DeleteIt is, D! π€£π
DeleteLadies, it certainly is!! But what do you mean “today” D?? It’s every day!! π€£π€£ Yes, I love the way he handles her too.. He doesn’t tiptoe around like others! Straight to the point π€£π€£
DeleteLatasha ...he handles Brooke? We can all see how successful that has been for him.π ππ are you watching the same the same show as Mandy? You guys are hilarious, your hypocrisy is at such a level it amuses me. I suppose I should thank you for the laughs
ReplyDeleteYeah he handled her alright, so well his son now is living at her place π nice job!
DeleteYeah especially with his childish attitude
DeleteSuch a mature person ππππ
The only person that Thomas is gonna be handing is himself. No naughty meaning intended. Lol
DeleteSince absolutely NO ONE wants anything to do with him, Thomas is gonna be a very, very lonely boy!!! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
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ReplyDeleteThomas has to be a Scorpio ♏
ReplyDeleteSo Brooke did not want straight away Ridge back.
ReplyDeleteBut than why was she saying that she still believes in their relationship and love? she just wanted him to want her and then play hard to get.
Simply she wanted him to be only her‘s
DeleteShe refused to share him
And she still love him so sure she wants him to get back to her but only her
There is nothing wrong with that
Coming from brook or any other women
She is not playing hard to get
Yes Celinah, she has changed her tactics!! That’s exactly what she is doing!!
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