How old are Li and Poppy?? I have been wondering this for a while now. Finn is around 38, Luna is around 20, that makes sense. Finn was 18 when he fathered her. Luna kept mentioning in the past that her mother was "very young" when she had her. So she can't have been THAT much older than Finn. At the same time Steffy keeps saying Poppy was "older" than him. What is "older" and what is "VERY young" here and where do they meet? :D I guess it is worth noticing that small age gaps are a much bigger deal when you are at that stage where you are about to become an adult, once you are all grown up, they don't matter as much.
And what about Li and Jack? IRL, Jack is almost 21 years older than Finn, Li is 9 years older than him. How old are they supposed to be on the show? Jack being almost 21 when he had Finn, ok, so he would be around 59. But there is no way Li was 9 when she adopted him lol. Given that they had been married before he had an affair with Sheila, I would assume she must have been at least 20 at the time, as well.
That's right Lynn. If Finn was 18 when he and Poppy hooked up, and she was older than him, she most definitely would not have been "very young" when she had Luna. She might have been mid to late 20s given her carefree lifestyle, which would put her anywhere between her mid-40s to 50 years old. I gather that Li is much older than her.
Sorry, Elle. I deleted and reposted my comment cuz I found typos. 😊. So my comment is under your response.
I think the flaw in the SL is Poppy saying she was “very young” when she had Luna. Let’s say Luna is 21 currently. Finn most likely would have been 19 by the time Luna was born. So that would make Finn 40 right now. I’m guessing Poppy is mid 50’s. So Poppy would have had Luna in her mid 30’s….and that is NOT very young. Li and Jack are both in their late 50’s, maybe early 60’s. That means Li and Jack would have adopted Finn when they were really young. They would have had to have gotten married in their late teens or very early 20’s. Nothing really adds up. I swear I think they figure out these SL’s as they go. It’s clearly done on the fly. That’s why the SL’s are so stupid. Nothing ever adds up. And history on this show changes to suit the writer’s narrative. Very disappointing.
Lol ladies. I just logged in to see if today's show was worth watching. I'm not about to try and do math at this time of the night, but the ages you are all saying is plausible. So far it's only been Steffy saying that Poppy was much older and the adult. She could have been around 23-25 who knows? Lynn, there could be a big age difference between Poppy and Li. My sister is 11 yrs older than me, the other 13. In soap-land you ladies aren't' suppose to be so intuitive or pay attention to detail. :)
I guess D is right and we are not supposed to think twice about what they are feeding us haha. I also agree about the changing stories. I remember Luna being so upset over having had sex with Zende, she had no reason to be upset when no one was around if this had been her plan all along.
Lynn, how are you, are you over the Finn/Luna shock? :-)
Ok, we have figured out that Jack and Li are in their late 50s/60.. I still don't know about Poppy, There definitely could be a big age difference. My colleague just had her second child at 39, she had her first at 20.
I found the end of this épisode, with the music behind and Finn saying to Luna “It’s me, I’m your father”, really beautiful and moving. I like this storyline ❤️ But I hate what fake Taylor is doing to Steffy ; telling her to leave her husband !!! Jacqueline has to be pregnant with her 5th child…
Luna is a fake. We see her cry and then the second people aren’t looking she’s smirking! She breaks Bill’s rules and brags about killing people to Remy. She doesn’t have any true remorse.
Steffy isn’t leaving. Her mum says to go to Eric’s so it’s not like she’s going to Europe and off screen.
I don’t think anyone on the show is pregnant. People have said both Hope and Steffy have been pregnant for months. If either were pregnant in real life, they would be showing a lot more right now. And I agree with BBFAN…..going to stay at Eric’s is definitely not leaving the show. Not only is Luna fake, but I’m so damn sick of the crocodile tears. Geeeeez, kids have situations SO much worse!!! And they don’t turn into mass murderers!! There is ZERO excuse! The girl truly has a screw loose and should be in an actual prison!!
Brava BBFan and Lynn 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Luna is not remorseful or reformed. I'm so sick of her act!
And I hate when the show changes up the characters just to suit a plot. When Poppy and Luna came to town, they were very close and Luna herself said that she never lacked anything because her mother always made sure she had everything she needed. Now, all of a sudden, she's a double murderer because she was so neglected by Poppy?
Elle, YES!! Luna always bragged about her mom. How it was always just the two of them, but they made it work. I even seem to recall how Luna said how much Poppy sacrificed for her. Now all of a sudden her mother is the Queen of Neglect….having nonstop parties, drugs and men coming and going. Absurd!!
Lynn, we even heard from Li herself that Poppy went after wealthy men, including one of Li's colleagues at the hospital. And we figured this was how she was able to take care of Luna. So, Poppy went from being a gold-digger to a drugged up sex maniac who didn't know who Luna's father was.
I only mentioned once, that Hope looked like she was gaining a bit of weight and the dresses she was wearing weren't so tight fitting. Thought maybe she might be pregnant. Agree with all the above comments about Luna. When she first showed up at Forrester she was praising how her mom gave her everything, and it was the two of them against the world. Luna's a class act, lunatic.
@BBFan 💯% fake, the manipulator of all manipulator's. I still maintain that Finn is not the father, those nurses had something to do with it. Finn tested his own blood, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Finn, you might as well enjoy this moment thinking you can change Luna & it's all your fault (so stupid).... but now you truly deserve all the chaos & animosity of what's going to take place with Steffy & family!
I can’t stand it when people act as if Finn did something wrong by just owning to the fact that he IS Lina’s father and not abandoning her or ignoring that fact, because it doesn’t matter if your child is a murderer, your child will always be your child, no matter what !
@Gen, Luna is not Finn's daughter, I've said it from the start. Those nurses had something to do with it and I'd love to know where the hospital got Luna's blood sample from 🤔 do they just keep samples of random people in the lab 🤔🤭 Finn did paternity test against his own blood not Luna's but yes, let's see what happens 🚩
That's what I thought too, BBFan. Hope doesn't seem to feel hurt being betrayed by Carter. Especially since she has longed for someone to love only her. Not sure what to make of her expression just yet.
I disagree. I think Hope is genuinely hurt by the kiss. I think her hurt is two-fold. She is hurt by Carter’s betrayal of their love as well as the fact that he is having second thoughts of giving the business back to Ridge. Two things can be true at the same time. I completely agree that Hope has become truly power hungry and has acted crazy. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t truly love Carter.
I do not believe that Hope loves Carter. Given the person that she used to be, if she truly loved him, she would never have encouraged him to go against his values but, she saw an opportunity for revenge on Steffy and used Carter to get it. That was very obvious when she went off on Ridge after walking in on him and Carter recently. Her true feelings emerged.
I still say she truly loves him. Like I mentioned, two things can be true at the same time. But time will tell. Daphne suggested to Carter that Ridge may agree to keep HFTF if Carter gives the company back. Carter is definitely going to give the company back at some point. So we’ll see what Hope does with that. I for sure don’t see Daphne and Carter together as a couple.
I don't think Daphne is going to stick around but if she does, she and Carter will end up together. I think he will be drawn to her because she sees the real person that he is.
I also think that Carter will give back the company on the condition that HFTF remains. Not sure what will happen to Hope though.
She does seem to “see him” as you mentiion, Elle. But I think he is turned off by her arrogance. He is way too down to earth to ever want to be with Miss Queen Snoot Daphne.
Alot of my comments might post twice sorry😕. I don't think Hope is truly in love with Carter. Just the power he had to change her life and give her power over Steffy.
@Elle, 💯% Hopeless doesn't love Carter, on Valentine's Day when he told her he was thinking of giving the company back to Ridge she started screaming at him and he got into a panic because of her behaviour he said "let's celebrate v day" and she said if you give the company back things will NOT continue between us, that right there is pretty much the 🚩 that some people can't see 🤭 if she really loved him she wouldn't care about the company 🤣 she's like her mamma, uses men to get what she wants 🚩🤭
I don't understand Taylor's advice. How are Steffy and the kids in danger all of a sudden? Sheila has been with Deacon and working at his restaurant for several months now. And she hasn't really done anything evil or criminal. Everyone believes Luna is in prison. So where's the immediate danger? I think Steffy will eventually leave him, but not because of danger. It will be because he's going to want to be active in Luna's life, and believe she can be rehabilitated. And all these months with this new actress playing Taylor, and I still cannot get used to her. I just don't feel a mother-daughter vibe when they interact or have conversations. 🤷♀️
Taylor said that once Sheila finds out that Luna is her grand-daughter, she is going to want to bust her out of prison. Totally believable.
And based on Sheila's conversation with Poppy last week, she still sees Steffy as the person keeping her and her son apart so, we can't take it for granted that Sheila (or Luna) won't want to harm Steffy again. Taylor is concerned for her daughter and has every right to be.
I read, that Luna knew that Finn was her father. Don't know how or how it is possible but I also heard that Bill is . So, that obssessing over cousin Finn lately is unreal. We will see soon.
Agree, Finn is not her father....those nurses had something to do with it changing blood samples. I'd love to know how the hospital even got hold of Luna's blood sample 🤔🤭🤣
I still don't think that Finn is Luna's father. I hope that Steffy leaves Finn when she finds out that Luna is living at Bill's. Bunch of idiots falling for Luna's sob story, it's nauseating 🚩 Luna beats Hope and Brooke hands down when it comes to manipulation ‼️ Let Hope have Finn, they wil become one crazy happy family 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣
I cannot believe that Taylor is giving advice to Steffy about leaving Finn. How would she know about leaving someone she loves alone. She should take her own advice and leave Ridge because she has only been his 2nd best.
Thanks Bob. I've been away in the Kgalagadi so it was great to catch up on the episodes.
ReplyDeleteHow old are Li and Poppy??
ReplyDeleteI have been wondering this for a while now.
Finn is around 38, Luna is around 20, that makes sense.
Finn was 18 when he fathered her.
Luna kept mentioning in the past that her mother was "very young" when she had her.
So she can't have been THAT much older than Finn.
At the same time Steffy keeps saying Poppy was "older" than him.
What is "older" and what is "VERY young" here and where do they meet? :D
I guess it is worth noticing that small age gaps are a much bigger deal when you are at that stage where you are about to become an adult, once you are all grown up, they don't matter as much.
And what about Li and Jack? IRL, Jack is almost 21 years older than Finn, Li is 9 years older than him.
How old are they supposed to be on the show?
Jack being almost 21 when he had Finn, ok, so he would be around 59. But there is no way Li was 9 when she adopted him lol. Given that they had been married before he had an affair with Sheila, I would assume she must have been at least 20 at the time, as well.
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DeleteThat's right Lynn. If Finn was 18 when he and Poppy hooked up, and she was older than him, she most definitely would not have been "very young" when she had Luna. She might have been mid to late 20s given her carefree lifestyle, which would put her anywhere between her mid-40s to 50 years old. I gather that Li is much older than her.
DeleteSorry, Elle. I deleted and reposted my comment cuz I found typos. 😊. So my comment is under your response.
DeleteI think the flaw in the SL is Poppy saying she was “very young” when she had Luna. Let’s say Luna is 21 currently. Finn most likely would have been 19 by the time Luna was born. So that would make Finn 40 right now. I’m guessing Poppy is mid 50’s. So Poppy would have had Luna in her mid 30’s….and that is NOT very young.
Li and Jack are both in their late 50’s, maybe early 60’s. That means Li and Jack would have adopted Finn when they were really young. They would have had to have gotten married in their late teens or very early 20’s. Nothing really adds up.
I swear I think they figure out these SL’s as they go. It’s clearly done on the fly. That’s why the SL’s are so stupid. Nothing ever adds up. And history on this show changes to suit the writer’s narrative. Very disappointing.
Elle, true….Poppy could be much younger than Li.
DeleteLol ladies. I just logged in to see if today's show was worth watching. I'm not about to try and do math at this time of the night, but the ages you are all saying is plausible. So far it's only been Steffy saying that Poppy was much older and the adult. She could have been around 23-25 who knows?
DeleteLynn, there could be a big age difference between Poppy and Li. My sister is 11 yrs older than me, the other 13. In soap-land you ladies aren't' suppose to be so intuitive or pay attention to detail. :)
Daddy Bill
DeleteThank you for your replies :)
DeleteI guess D is right and we are not supposed to think twice about what they are feeding us haha.
I also agree about the changing stories. I remember Luna being so upset over having had sex with Zende, she had no reason to be upset when no one was around if this had been her plan all along.
Lynn, how are you, are you over the Finn/Luna shock? :-)
Ok, we have figured out that Jack and Li are in their late 50s/60..
I still don't know about Poppy,
There definitely could be a big age difference. My colleague just had her second child at 39, she had her first at 20.
I found the end of this épisode, with the music behind and Finn saying to Luna “It’s me, I’m your father”, really beautiful and moving. I like this storyline ❤️ But I hate what fake Taylor is doing to Steffy ; telling her to leave her husband !!! Jacqueline has to be pregnant with her 5th child…
ReplyDeleteJMW just did a huge feature in people last month about her children and motherhood. She did not say anything about being pregnant.
DeleteLuna is a fake. We see her cry and then the second people aren’t looking she’s smirking! She breaks Bill’s rules and brags about killing people to Remy. She doesn’t have any true remorse.
DeleteSteffy isn’t leaving. Her mum says to go to Eric’s so it’s not like she’s going to Europe and off screen.
I don’t think anyone on the show is pregnant. People have said both Hope and Steffy have been pregnant for months. If either were pregnant in real life, they would be showing a lot more right now. And I agree with BBFAN…..going to stay at Eric’s is definitely not leaving the show.
DeleteNot only is Luna fake, but I’m so damn sick of the crocodile tears. Geeeeez, kids have situations SO much worse!!! And they don’t turn into mass murderers!! There is ZERO excuse! The girl truly has a screw loose and should be in an actual prison!!
Brava BBFan and Lynn 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Luna is not remorseful or reformed. I'm so sick of her act!
DeleteAnd I hate when the show changes up the characters just to suit a plot. When Poppy and Luna came to town, they were very close and Luna herself said that she never lacked anything because her mother always made sure she had everything she needed. Now, all of a sudden, she's a double murderer because she was so neglected by Poppy?
Elle, YES!! Luna always bragged about her mom. How it was always just the two of them, but they made it work. I even seem to recall how Luna said how much Poppy sacrificed for her. Now all of a sudden her mother is the Queen of Neglect….having nonstop parties, drugs and men coming and going. Absurd!!
DeleteLynn, we even heard from Li herself that Poppy went after wealthy men, including one of Li's colleagues at the hospital. And we figured this was how she was able to take care of Luna. So, Poppy went from being a gold-digger to a drugged up sex maniac who didn't know who Luna's father was.
DeleteGen, yes, bad advice from Taylor.
DeleteI only mentioned once, that Hope looked like she was gaining a bit of weight and the dresses she was wearing weren't so tight fitting. Thought maybe she might be pregnant.
DeleteAgree with all the above comments about Luna. When she first showed up at Forrester she was praising how her mom gave her everything, and it was the two of them against the world. Luna's a class act, lunatic.
@BBFan 💯% fake, the manipulator of all manipulator's. I still maintain that Finn is not the father, those nurses had something to do with it. Finn tested his own blood, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
DeleteFinn, you might as well enjoy this moment thinking you can change Luna & it's all your fault (so stupid).... but now you truly deserve all the chaos & animosity of what's going to take place with Steffy & family!
ReplyDelete@Masters1313 💯% agree, Steffy is going to freak out when she finds out that Luna is at Bill's.
DeleteI can’t stand it when people act as if Finn did something wrong by just owning to the fact that he IS Lina’s father and not abandoning her or ignoring that fact, because it doesn’t matter if your child is a murderer, your child will always be your child, no matter what !
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Delete@Gen, Luna is not Finn's daughter, I've said it from the start. Those nurses had something to do with it and I'd love to know where the hospital got Luna's blood sample from 🤔 do they just keep samples of random people in the lab 🤔🤭 Finn did paternity test against his own blood not Luna's but yes, let's see what happens 🚩
DeleteHope’s face! She doesn’t want to lose control of Carter or she’s finished being the queen of Forrester.
ReplyDeleteShe won’t scare Daphne off .
Daphne played that well. Carter will pursue her now. He won’t want her going back to France.
That's what I thought too, BBFan. Hope doesn't seem to feel hurt being betrayed by Carter. Especially since she has longed for someone to love only her. Not sure what to make of her expression just yet.
DeleteI disagree. I think Hope is genuinely hurt by the kiss. I think her hurt is two-fold. She is hurt by Carter’s betrayal of their love as well as the fact that he is having second thoughts of giving the business back to Ridge. Two things can be true at the same time.
DeleteI completely agree that Hope has become truly power hungry and has acted crazy. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t truly love Carter.
I do not believe that Hope loves Carter. Given the person that she used to be, if she truly loved him, she would never have encouraged him to go against his values but, she saw an opportunity for revenge on Steffy and used Carter to get it. That was very obvious when she went off on Ridge after walking in on him and Carter recently. Her true feelings emerged.
DeleteI still say she truly loves him. Like I mentioned, two things can be true at the same time. But time will tell.
DeleteDaphne suggested to Carter that Ridge may agree to keep HFTF if Carter gives the company back. Carter is definitely going to give the company back at some point. So we’ll see what Hope does with that. I for sure don’t see Daphne and Carter together as a couple.
Time will tell indeed, regarding hope and Carter.
DeleteI don't think Daphne is going to stick around but if she does, she and Carter will end up together. I think he will be drawn to her because she sees the real person that he is.
I also think that Carter will give back the company on the condition that HFTF remains. Not sure what will happen to Hope though.
She does seem to “see him” as you mentiion, Elle. But I think he is turned off by her arrogance. He is way too down to earth to ever want to be with Miss Queen Snoot Daphne.
DeleteAlot of my comments might post twice sorry😕.
DeleteI don't think Hope is truly in love with Carter. Just the power he had to change her life and give her power over Steffy.
Daddy Bill
Delete@BBFan 💯% she left her "scent" behind 🤣🤣 Carter will chase her, he is totally into her 🤣🤣
Delete@Elle, 💯% Hopeless doesn't love Carter, on Valentine's Day when he told her he was thinking of giving the company back to Ridge she started screaming at him and he got into a panic because of her behaviour he said "let's celebrate v day" and she said if you give the company back things will NOT continue between us, that right there is pretty much the 🚩 that some people can't see 🤭 if she really loved him she wouldn't care about the company 🤣 she's like her mamma, uses men to get what she wants 🚩🤭
DeleteThank you Bob 💕❤️😍
ReplyDeleteFinn's acting abilities have definitely improved. Yay for on the job training!
ReplyDeleteI don't understand Taylor's advice. How are Steffy and the kids in danger all of a sudden? Sheila has been with Deacon and working at his restaurant for several months now. And she hasn't really done anything evil or criminal. Everyone believes Luna is in prison. So where's the immediate danger? I think Steffy will eventually leave him, but not because of danger. It will be because he's going to want to be active in Luna's life, and believe she can be rehabilitated.
ReplyDeleteAnd all these months with this new actress playing Taylor, and I still cannot get used to her. I just don't feel a mother-daughter vibe when they interact or have conversations. 🤷♀️
Wondering what will happen when eventually, and it will happen, Steffy and Luna meet face to face again.
DeleteTaylor said that once Sheila finds out that Luna is her grand-daughter, she is going to want to bust her out of prison. Totally believable.
DeleteAnd based on Sheila's conversation with Poppy last week, she still sees Steffy as the person keeping her and her son apart so, we can't take it for granted that Sheila (or Luna) won't want to harm Steffy again. Taylor is concerned for her daughter and has every right to be.
I'm waiting for Bill to all of a sudden walk in, and see what his reaction will be.
DeleteDaddy Bill
Delete@stilli I still agree with you, daddy Bill
DeleteI read, that Luna knew that Finn was her father. Don't know how or how
ReplyDeleteit is possible but I also heard that Bill is . So, that obssessing over cousin
Finn lately is unreal. We will see soon.
Agree, Finn is not her father....those nurses had something to do with it changing blood samples. I'd love to know how the hospital even got hold of Luna's blood sample 🤔🤭🤣
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ReplyDeleteI still don't think that Finn is Luna's father. I hope that Steffy leaves Finn when she finds out that Luna is living at Bill's. Bunch of idiots falling for Luna's sob story, it's nauseating 🚩 Luna beats Hope and Brooke hands down when it comes to manipulation ‼️ Let Hope have Finn, they wil become one crazy happy family 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteI cannot believe that Taylor is giving advice to Steffy about leaving Finn. How would she know about leaving someone she loves alone. She should take her own advice and leave Ridge because she has only been his 2nd best.
ReplyDeleteActually she was his FIRST best until Brooke's manipulation started 🚩
DeleteTaylor... Pls pls Leave.. Such enoying caractor
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