The Bold and the Beautiful 12-5-24 Full episode B&B 5th December 2024
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Oh Brooke... yes Steffy maybe, but Taylor has not said a thing about Hope influencing Carter, she asked if he really believed that. oh well. that's whats gona affect their relationships, assuming things. Now back to Hope... that lady is GONE. Her vibe gives me Sheila in her days or Luna recently... where they just DGAF. I am not saying she's a killer -- one hopes not-- but she doesn't even give me "she loves Carter" because even this "he felt undervalued" doesn't feel right. The way shes acting and the things Brooke and Katie said... "Hope's not the type to use and manipulate someone for her own gain"... i feel like thats where the story is going. Also i mean didn't Brooke do that with Connor as well, to get FC back in the day. Brooke never wanted Connor, but yet.
ReplyDeleteKae, who is Connor? I have watched B&B since day one, but quit for 3-4 years and then came back to it about 10 years ago. (Just wondering if Connor was someone who appeared during my hiatus, maybe?)
DeleteMargo Connor is the lawyer who helped Brooke get control of the majority shares of FC. It was a great episode https://youtu.be/HE_wkZmGbQg
Delete@Kae 💯👏👏👏👏 spot on
DeleteWell said, Kae. Hope has lost it. Her diatribe is all about the perceived injustice she has been served. Then, she tries to cover her self-serving attitude with her and Carter wanting better for the company and replacing Steffy's tyranny. Lmao! I don't see other employees complaining. Will has been giving glowing reviews about working at FC, and so has Electra. Katie isn't complaining, neither is Brooke. The ONLY complainers are Hope and Carter. Hope is reminding me of how she used to behave before, selfish, spoilt and entitled.
DeleteBrooke is 100% right!!! And of course little mouse Taylor is there to kiss Ridge’s butt when Brooke’s involved. Absolutely NOTHING NEW there!! Go home Taylor!
ReplyDeleteI don't think Brooke is 100% right. Based on how Hope suddenly became open to being involved with Carter after hearing him voraciously defend her and HFTF at the last Board meeting, I believe Hope saw an opportunity to have someone in her corner. Someone that she could easily manipulate to get them to do her bidding. She might not have planned the coup but she jumped on it from the moment Carter suggested it.
DeleteAnd how was Taylor kissing Ridge's butt? She was in shock that Carter did what he did and when Ridge blamed Hope, she questioned if that is what really happened. She did not jump on the blame Hope train with Ridge. Then, when Brooke came in and said it was unfair of Ridge to blame her daughter, Taylor asked how she could defend Hope. I don't believe Taylor was blaming Hope entirely, since she doesn't seem to think it's all Hope's fault.
Katie is such a warm-hearted person who at the same time has a very distinguished voice and personality. I knew and I said that she wouldn't hold against Hope the relationship with Carter. She even is as protective of Hope as ever.
ReplyDeleteElectra should stop gushing over that guy. She said she wanted a break from "home" and still can't pick up how weird it is that someone followed her to LA. I hope Will doesn't become a victim in this. It was a bit chilling how Remy was standing next to Hollis photograph there while watching them.
She was totally gushing. Inappropriate!
DeleteMilla, Remy is even creepy looking in my opinion. Will has nothing to be concerned about in the looks department. But yes, Electra needs to dial back her enthusiasm of her stalker for sure!!!
DeleteKatie did handle the news of Carter and Hope like a grownup. She is Hope’s aunt and just wants the best for both of them! She looked so pretty in the last 2 episodes!
Lynn in the looks department nobody is a competition to young Spencer 😁 But Remy seems determined and Electra has a blind spot for him for sure. I'm sure soon Will will be warning her about Remy. I'm somehow invested in his story and if he's really just disturbed / evil or there's something more.
DeleteYes Katie definitely has a glow up these days. She wore also very pretty dresses some eps ago.
Ty Bob!!
ReplyDeleteRemy might try poison Will's food. Some women are clueless, not recognizing that their male friend wants to be more than friends.
ReplyDeleteNot looking good for Brooke and Ridge. He, and Steffy, and now Taylor too are putting so much of the blame on Carter. According to them he wouldn't have done any of this until Hope took control of his mind and manipulated him. They say the whole plan was Hope's idea. Brooke will get tired of hearing that.
I meant they're putting all the blame on Hope.
ReplyDelete@Forever 36, either way, whether it was a hostile takeover Hope would STILL have gotten into Carter's head about saving her line ‼️ no matter what plan Carter came up with Hope played him like a fiddle 🚩
DeleteOh my goodness. Brooke is soooooooo insecure about Taylor! Why did her argument even go to "letting nothing and noone come between us?" Now that Ridge is blaming Hope, Brooke doesn't like how it feels. How many times did she badmouth Thomas to Ridge? Huh!
ReplyDeleteAnd there goes Hope "this all started because you, Steffy, wouldn't listen." Hope, what about "this all started because I kept the truth from you."
A lot of foreshadowing from Katie today. She said that Hope would not lure Carter into some self-serving scheme. Little do they know, that's exactly what she did. She even held his hand as he signed the LLC to ensure he signed it, and kept in his ear about how unfairly they treated him.
Elle, anytime Brooke even mentioned Thomas’ name in a remotely negative way, Ridge would shut her down before she even got the words out. And Brooke is saying what I’ve been saying for a week….Yes, Hope absolutely had a part in all this and is partially to blame for what’s happened. But Ridge (for about the 5th time) is placing ALL the blame on Hope. And that is clearly NOT OK!
DeleteHopes a low life piece of shit. Carter already planned on doing it but Hope kept getting in his head like the snake she is. She's exactly like her disgusting slut mother
Delete@Elle...that's one of the HOGAN traits, pissing up against a tree like a dog to mark their territory 🤣🤣🤣 @NOEMI 💯% correct, mamma HOgan should be DO proud of her mini me, once a SFTV always a SFTV
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DeleteLynn, agreed about Ridge. That was my whole point. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, Brooke doesn't like it even though, many times in the past, she easily trashed Ridge's children. Noone likes to hear their own children being bashed but Brooke did it countless times with both Thomas and Steffy. She should remember that.
DeleteThank you Bob 🌼🥀
ReplyDeleteHope is definitely the instigator in this story. Yes, Carter is a grown man, but man also intend to think differently when a woman like Hope is involved. Not only did Steffy & Ridge notice a change in him Eric did as well. All these Logan woman who are blaming Steffy, should really take a look at Hope. Their sweet little niece. She could of prevented all of this. By just saying we're seeing one another. Instead of asking blind faith after everything that has happened between y'all. Every decision Carter has made is because of Hope. Like he said he would of never pitched his idea if it wasn't for her. He wouldn't sign the LLC if it wasn't for hope. He would of not felt such a strong "hate' if it wasn't for Hope. He is literally copying Hope's emotions and thoughts. And them being together is only making it worse. Hope is a real manipulator and she will use anyone to get closer to her own goals. She doesn't love Carter she love what he can do for her. And Carter doesn't love Hope he is just in love with the idea that Hope would/could love him. Like honestly how do you expect someone to fall in love after a couple conversations 🙈 I really don't get that
ReplyDeleteCarter falls in love with everyone. Agree that he loves the idea of her like he did with all others before.
DeleteFrom the start, everyone here was saying that Carter's actions are personal, yet he was accusing Steffy of making personal decisions. Everything he has done was for Hope and her line. Even when he was questioning whether or not he should go through with it, Hope was subtlely reminding him of how unfairly he was treated just because the Forresters turned down his ideas for the company. If Hope was not in the picture, I highly doubt Carter would have gone down this road.
DeleteHope has this ability to make them men feel supported and like they can achieve anything. Thomas was telling her the same thing. Carter himself said something like what you say, Elle, that he feels empowered by her support. Definitely wouldn't have done it without her. It was interesting how his "ideas" that he'd been "working on for years" only got mentioned when he got together with Hope 😅
DeleteExactly Milla! Both Thomas and Carter acknowledged that Hope is accountable. Whether the outcome is good or bad. It's ALL because of Hope! So people should not be upset because Ridge blames Hope. It's all her.
DeleteWhy is Taylor is still there... She is so booring
ReplyDeleteThe only boring one here is Brookes old ass sleeping with every men on the show and manipulating Ridges dumbass by saying You are my destiny. Same old repetitive story line for the past 30 yrs.
DeleteThe only boring one here is Brookes old ass sleeping with every men on the show and manipulating Ridges dumbass by saying You are my destiny. Same old repetitive story line for the past 30 yrs.
DeleteVarda, because she has absolutely nowhere else to be. Yes, Taylor is very boring!
DeleteVarda, yes Taylor is so boring! And has nowhere else to be!!
DeleteWe now have the latest B & B craze of escorting people of the premises, why not escort this same old same old repetitive serial right off the TV?
DeleteNOEMI your the slut with a bad mouth .Shut the hell up
Delete@NOEMI 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 YOU SO FUNNY 💯💯💯👏👏👏 senior citizen modelling lingerie 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Delete@Stilli....too much pain medication like Peggy I see 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteTaylor is the mother of Ridge's children. She came to visit her daughter. If a parent visiting their child is boring, it's your perogative to think so. It doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Delete@Stilli who the fuck are you to call me a slut cunt. You don't even know me. I can say whatever I want in this thread and say my opinions you self rightous asswipe.
DeleteGood on you Noemi, people on this thread have often had a swipe at me for a simple comment. Pompous at best, boring at worst, but more often deluded because they think this show is real life!!!
DeleteHope has no lack of nerve! Who does she think she is? She's not a Forrester, she's a Hogan from the valley like her mother and grandmother! And certainly her daughter!
ReplyDeleteShe has no say in how to run a company, nor judge Steffy! She doesn't know anything about it given HFTF's bankruptcy...
Cause Hope is a major piece of shit like her entire family. I cannot believe I ever defended her against Steffy. Ever since Hope came back from Paris all she did was use all the men she can against steffy even her own brother Thomas. Hope is another slut from the valley like mother and she learned from the best. At least Steffy admits to her faults and past mistakes.
DeleteHope isn't from the Valley
Delete@Stilli, get yourself a brown paper bag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI had to laugh at Hope challenging Steffy's ability to run FC. The company is thriving under her leadership.
DeleteIS TAYLOR STILL A DR SHE IS ALWAYS AT FORRESTORS CREATION DO SHE HAVE ANY PATIENTS AT ALL FROM WHAT I CAN TELL SHE ALWAYS AT THE COMPANY IN RIDGES FACE DISREPECTING BROOKE
ReplyDeleteShe says she has patients, but I’m guessing not so much! Lol
DeleteShe would much prefer to loiter at FC so she can butt her nose in where it doesn’t belong. What are the odds she would side with Ridge against Brooke??!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She is as transparent as that cheap shirt she has on!
You're not your
Delete@Dis One 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
Delete@ONA Taylor is working on her mental wellbeing being, everyone is on her case because she visits FC, you all MUST have missed ALL the times Ridge has said , in fact just last week when Ridge said to her "Doc, you are welcome here ANY time, you are family" Funny how Brooke is allowed to pop over to Deacon to o discuss Hopeless, and NO she doesn't go there to eat, she specifically goes to him to discuss HOpe so why cant Taylor 🤔 she intimidates HOgan and I love It 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GO TAYLOR 🎉🎉🎉🥳
DeleteI'm so tired of hope brooks self entitled daughter and Carter what they did is criminal fraud conspiracy against forester creation s Stephanie and Eric's family company and because Eric didn't sign it's null and void signed this document under false circumstances and can Hayden liz s sister from general hospital looking nothing like Taylor just go home 🏡
ReplyDeleteMelissa, Eric didn't have to sign, only the CEOs of the company.
DeleteHope has lost her way for sure. Her entitlement does not even begin to cover it. She is using Carter and has become very vindictive.
What the hell is hope wearing something from the Walton’s wear , omg how ugly , and as for steffy wearing that wwf wrestling belt hahaha , cmon writers let them wear some decent clothes
ReplyDeleteI called it a cummerbund yesterday. But yes, wrestling belt is about right also! It’s entirely random and serves no purpose other than to be ugly!
DeleteLol….wrestling belt! It serves no purpose other than to be ugly!
Deletewhy is Ridge always acting like an azz. Carter is a grown ass successful man, he made the damn decision on his own to do what he did. Hope didnt even know about no damn LCT papers. Carter wanted to do that because they straight up refused his ideas and his counsel, when he advised that the Logan Foresster rivalry was going to hurt the company they refused to listen. If any thing, they back stabbed him. Ridge you listened to Steffie rather than Carter, so you first showed that you werent loyal to Carter. you and steffie just shut everything he was saying down and this before you even knew he was involved with Hope. Hope was right all along, if they knew he was involved with Hope they would fire him. Brooke, I knew telling Ridge would back fire on you. None of them are even acknowledging that they were wrong in thinking Hope was seducing Finn. Its time for you to stand up and fight for your daughter. Some intervention really needs to happen because this rivalry has gone too far. And the real reason behind this Logan vs Forrester war is Steffie and her grown ass still wishing to see her parents back together. How many times has Hope tried to make peace with Steffie to end this war, even Brooke tried with Steffie. Brooke and Hope was so genuinely concern for Steffie when she went missing. But this little girl, cannot understand kindness and she lacks forgiveness. Why would Steffie push Thomas to leave as HFTF head designer, she had to have known that line would suffer after Thomas left. She probably was so jealous of the possitive message Hope was sending out to millions of fans that she just had to do something to brake Hope, and she sure succeeded at that. Now Ridge and his dumb assis acting like a puss. "'Oh you betrayed me for a woman". "Taylor, Hope caused me lose my best friend"' cry cry cry. "Carter, its me or Hope". I need to get a role in this story, because I am ready to defend my girl Hope. There is nothing wrong with Hope, I still feel she is just broken hearted from the lost of her marriage. She tried hard to be the only woman in Liam's heart. She will get her life back and she will fall deeply in love with Carter. Im so glad they gave Carter a more interesting role, this story line with him is very entertaining, he is fighting for the woman he loves, he is fighting for the underdogs, he is fighting for the success of the company and he is standing up to his so called best friend. And I love that Katy talked highly of Carter. They never said why Kathy and Carter split, but if I was to guess, I think Kathy still loves Bill, not actively but he still holds that spot in her heart, and I believe, she thought that Carter would deserve a woman who can love him fully. Letting him go was the right thing to do. But also notice how quick Kathy told Brooke not to let this situation come between her and ridge, maybe its because Kathy feels that if Brooke was to become available again, Bill will be pursuing her. Kathy loves bill, but just like Hope, the man they loved was in love with another woman. what can you do with that?
ReplyDeletePeggy....have you ever heard the expression "a coin has two sides"
DeleteYou only look at one side and totally ignore that there is another side as well.
I have no doubt at all, that you are a LOGAN fan, but come on, there is also another side.
And by the way, I totally disagree with you.
@Peggy...lay off the pain killers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteI find your thought process very interesting! Carter would NOT have been fired that is nonsense! He literally had an affair with his boss’s wife and he WASN’T fired!!
DeleteHope wanted it hidden because it made no sense to anyone, that Carter had been pushing for months to cut HFTF!!! His projections which Ridge and Steffy both defended to Brooke and Hope were dismal! Then, the actual numbers were worse and buyers were pulling out!
Even Eric said it should be cut because any other line performing soooo badly would have been cut long before!
The fact is Hope’s line was a massive drain on the company!!!
Hope would have been sent to work on something else and her employees redistributed, which they have been!
Hope deliberately refused to be honest because she wanted Carter in place to keep her line going and protect her if she messed up!
Remember her shock that Ridge would fire her because he’s always backed her against Steffy or anyone else who would have ended her line because Brooke always pleaded her case and made it 100% personal!
DeleteCarter didn’t feel disgruntled and unhappy until Hope told him how mistreated etc he was!!!
It’s completely untrue! Brooke tried to explain to Hope that as an employee he could pitch ideas and then it was up to Steffy and Ridge to make a final decision and Eric too in this case since it is ultimately his company and legacy we’re talking about!
In the past Ridge and Steffy has praised his acumen etc and he was promoted consistently!!!
His literally getting rejected on 1 proposal and withholding the truth about his relationship with Hope which would have mitigated the entire situation does not make him an underdog etc!
Hope casting herself as a victim when she has been handed everything in her life and earned nothing. When she has been allowed to keep a failing line that has been a black hole of loss because of her mum… then to act like a poor oppressed drudge is ridiculous!!!
She’s a spoiled, entitled brat!
Meantime where is Beth? While Mummy is playing Malificent, where is her daughter? She is so self centred she never thinks of that poor baby!
Peggy, blaming Steffy because she wants her parents to reunite is ludicrous. It's always quite easy for the wrongdoers to offer peace to the wronged. Brooke offering friendship to Taylor after the many years of blatant disrespect she showed toward Taylor and her family with Ridge. And Hope wanting peace between her and Steffy after the many times she went after Liam while he was married to Steffy. Not to mention, her going after Finn. Hope should count herself lucky that she hadn't been kicked out of FC before now.
DeleteI do agree though that Hope is broken. Hope she snaps out of it soon.
Brooke 🤣🤣🤣🤣 💯% Steffy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 NO, YOU AND YOUR OFFSPRING should not have lied from the beginning...there it is, HOgan's stuff up then blame Steffy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bwaaahaahaaa RIDGE is listening to Steffy and blaming Hopeless OMG Steffy only JUST found out‼️ Ridge blamed HOpe BEFORE he even told Steffy 🤣 Brooke is a bitch like her daughter ‼️🚩 Brooke is SO insecure she just pissed up against a tree to mark her territory like a dog 🤣🤣🤣 who even said Taylor and Steffy are trying to come between Ridge and Brooke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🚩 major 🚩 flag 🤣 see what happens when you keep secrets HOgan, ALL YOUR OWN DOING 🤣‼️
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to this blog? So many ghetto trolls all of sudden compared to last year. No admins? YR blog is heaven in comparison.
ReplyDelete@Yes 👏 👏 👏.
DeleteNotice when unknown is answering to Ona (2.20am) how her diction is of the English language, then at 2.53am it suddenly converts to ghetto trash talk. 😆 😆 😆. I think her and @Neomi may be from the same "hood" or, God forbid, be the same person.
Taylor has to attend FC to see Ridge daily because it is therapeutic for her BHS. Give me a break. Why she is allowed to have any input into the running of FC is beyond me. Yet she can walk in and have input, that overrides whatever Brooke is saying 🤔. That is disrespectful and oh so wrong of Ridge on the highest level. Can't stand her character. 😒
Hold on Blackbetty. What has Taylor said that has superseded what Brooke said? Ridge already told Brooke exactly how he feels about her daughter. Taylor even questioned whether Ridge was sure it was all Hope.
Delete@Elle god forbid we defend Steffy then we are called trolls, bots, sluts and all sorts of names in the books. Is called freedom of speech in america and that's if half these bloggers are even from America.
DeleteNoemi it's not the defense of Steffy that is troll (or "ghetto troll" lol 😂 new one!) behavior. It's the ugly language overall that you guys use 99% of the time.(Which is a shame because I have seen you in particular write pretty decent posts too.) Steffy doesn't come off more positive by you calling Hope slut and hogan etc.
DeleteYou see in comparison BBFAN defends Steffy to death, but doesn't call anyone hogan.
Milla I appreciate that you see the difference! I can defend someone without stopping to personal attacks.
DeleteNoemi, I understand how difficult it is when you are being personally attacked over a fictional character ! Don’t let yourself be drawn into it, you are worth more than that!
Milla,
I also call Steffy out on her bad behaviour!
I simply point out that there is significant history that affects her decisions ( I don’t necessarily agree) whether I think she’s right or wrong!
I can understand her long history with Hope particularly, and she has been extremely damaged by Hope relentlessly pursuing Liam during their marriages and then going after Finn was a step too far!
Hope has hurt others , so has Steffy! The difference is that Steffy owns it, has apologised and tried to make amends!
Brooke also personally hurt Steffy by filling Hope’s head with the idea that even though Liam had moved on and married Steffy, Hope had a right to pursue him at any cost in the name of Destiny. That Hope deserved Liam and that she could seduce him etc and it was okay because she was better then his wife etc.
She told Steffy that Hope deserved Liam more! Despite Liam marrying Steffy 3 times and their being happily married!
Brooke never accepted or respected their marriages and constantly targeted them!
Now, Hope is rationalising all her bad behaviour and as she has always done takes NO personal responsibility for her own actions! She is always a victim and that is a very unheralded to be!
I had really hoped she’d grown up and matured out of the spoiled entitled princess stage. Sadly not!
BBFan I've always seen very clearly the difference between your posts and troll behavior. There's not even a comparison! I have seen you also as a pretty interesting and decent person who can talk about other things than the show! If all Steffy supporters had your ability to talk decently, this blog would be a completely different place. (Which it used to be, like Yes points out.)
DeleteI don't agree about Steffy and I always will think that she was the one who started the whole feud with Hope by going after her men. She pulled very ugly things (however recently she's definitely a different woman, in a positive way). But we've covered this and it's clear we won't be on the same page about her. But the very fact that we can admit it and be friendly towards each other proves my overall point.
HOgan HOpe what is the problems ? I don't care !
DeleteInsultez qui vous voulez dans le Soap de tous les noms du moment qu'on se respecte entre nous !
The problem is that you can only spit hate and the names are a part of it. It would be the same if people called Steffy Slutty all the time. But intelligent people don't do it, only the the ghetto trolls.
Deletethese characters do not exist, they are fiction HOgan HOpe is her nickname and I will continue to call her like that! You can say whatever you want about others, it's your right!
DeleteI don't insult people who don't share my opinion as trolls, it's worse because they (me?) are real people! Please avoid insulting me!
DeleteThat's not "her nickname", that's what hateful people call her. And you and the other haters don't add any other perspective, no other value to the conversation besides hate and ugly language. That's what trolls do.
DeleteIf you started writing like normal intelligent people maybe people wouldn't call you trolls. It's not hard, you should try it.
DeleteI didn't insult you so don't insult me! You owe me respect like I owe you! You insult real people, we tease fictional characters! And I've seen you insult Steffy more than once except I decided to ignore it, Don't attack me! Thank you and Troll is an insult! And I'm real! And you're no one to say who should do what! Stay in your place! Thank you! Avoid insulting people who have never done anything to you, thank you! The hater here is you, you who insults when we're not going to be a fan of your saint HOOOOOOOOOOOOpe HOOOOO and insult Steffy! Ignore my messages if you don't like HOOOOOOpe!
DeleteSteffy est remplie de haine et de jalousie envers les Logans...tu fais pitié, tu es pathétique, tu es à plaindre...je n attends que ton boomerang en pleine face .Steffy ,elle a le cerveau
ReplyDeletelobotomisé et espère toujours reunir ses parents....hey steffy quel âge as tu, tu es parent, vis ta vie.. tu es une pauvre fille et fais peine à voir. Par dessus le marché, tu te plantes là en moralisatrice 😂😂😂 on aura tout vu...sale pisseuse hypocrite, sale garce doublée de pute...que j aimerai voir ta face défaite sans jamais t en remettre
@ Vysill. Love your comments.
Delete😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Such hate for a fictional character. I don't know what Steffy has to be jealous about when it comes to Hope. Hope is the one who is filled with jealousy, bitterness and revenge. She needs therapy and I, for one, hope she gets it.
DeleteElle exactly!!
DeleteHope literally has NOTHING Steffy could be jealous of !!
Steffy has worked very hard for her life and honestly Hope made her life miserable for years! She rubbed Steffy’s face in the fact that Ridge raised her and bit his own children! That he sided with her every time because she was Brooke’s daughter!
Hope was so spoiled and never told No! She is the one who is petty and jealous and wants everything Steffy has!
Steffy bought her own home, she earned her spot at Forrester, she finally found a man who loves only her and is Hope who?
Hope cannot handle not winning, not getting her way, she couldn’t believe both Thomas and Finn said No!
Grow up Hope! Be a mum to your daughter! Be a good human! She couldn’t get her way so she’s all for stealing it!
So true, BBFan. Brava!
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