Very selfish. Like I've always said, Hope pretends a lot. She kept throwing it in Thomas' face that this is about Douglas and his safety but now it's about "He is my son too, Steffy"
I could not help but find humor with Hope as I kept remembering how she ripped Beth away from Steffy. Now, her son has willingly chosen to live with Steffy and Hope (and Thomas) has signed off on it! Lmao.
Agree with all of you, and then Hope wants Steffy to actually reject Douglas. SMH. Steffy would still have to talk it over with Finn before making it final. No child his age should have to make such a decision no matter how smart you think he is.
Ladies I am stunned that Hope and Thomas tell poor wee Douglas that he shouldn’t worry and they will accept his answer. The second he gives it they both lose it on him. Seriously, as PP stated NO 10 yr old should be put in that position. Hope and Thomas both showed clearly that Douglas made the correct decision. He knew that the parent he didn’t choose wouldn’t accept his decision… can you imagine the guilt that would be heaped on his head whenever he spent time with the one he didn’t choose????
How can anyone expect Steffy to turn her back on him? She knows that Thomas shouldn’t be raising him… she also knows he might change his mind about him living with Hope eventually… as his guardian she could allow him to live there and still make decisions to protect his interests.
I’m stunned by all the nasty comments about Douglas. He’s a little boy!! He isn’t some 16 yr old, that would be difficult enough, but a 10 yr old?? Clever or not, they don’t have the reasoning of an adult. Yet all these adults are sitting in judgement expecting him think like a 25 yr old!
As for Finn, he’s a loving generous man, of course he would be okay raising Douglas. He just spoke to his mother regarding the wee fella needing stability etc. He isn’t going to turn his back on his nephew.
Both Thomas and Hope had a go at Steffy. If Douglas had chosen Thomas , Hope would have the same reaction. If he chose Hope, Thomas would be acting the same.
I don’t think he belongs with Thomas. However living in a home where they despise his father and spend hours making nasty comments about him isn’t exactly a good environment either. Children identify themselves with their parents… it does emotional damage.
I found Hope saying he said he wanted to live with her a bit disingenuous… she gave the choice between her or his dad.
Not to mention the intense atmosphere in the judge’s chambers… Auntie Steffy said she was there to support Douglas. She was the only one not applying pressure to him. It was way too much for a 10 yr old to deal with.
I hope Steffy and Finn take him into their home. He will be able to see both of his parents and be without the constant hostility. Steady will go mama bear on either of them if they try to guilt Douglas.
Well if Steffy does agree to just a Temporary guardianship, what's the problem then? I mean why are Thomas, Hope and Liam upset? Temporary means they'll have another shot with Douglas then!!
The problem is that Thomas and Hope did not sign over temporary guardianship to whoever Douglas chose to live with. Steffy will be Douglas' guardian until he becomes a young adult.
Elle, Steffy hasn't signed anything yet and I'm sure she could ask the judge for temporary guardianship and then revisit the case in 6 months. At least I would hope so. She hasn't even talked to Finn yet but it will be a long storyline. A lot of fighting between them all. Hope won't agree with some of the decisions Steffy makes for Douglas. Her parenting will be different than Hope's and the poor kid is still going to be in a tense environment.
D, I really hope that Thomas and Hope do not come over to Steffy's with their nonsense although, it seems that Steffy will do whatever it takes to ensure that Douglas is happy and unstressed. She seems to be really concerned about his welfare and the environment that his parents have created around him. And I really hope that both Steffy and Finn agree to be his guardians permanently.
Douglas has really put Steffy in the corner, she is so speechless that she just doesn't know how to answer him without hurting his feelings. Now, it's going to be feud battle between Hope & Liam and Steffy & Finn over Douglas. Did Thomas and Hope just say to Douglas for him to choose, well he did just that and he chose neither of them instead he preferred Steffy. It is obviously that he likes the surroundings where Steffy lives, and he rather be there than Hope's little house, so learn to accept that Thomas, Hope, and Liam.
I don't think Steffy and Finn will want the responsibility raising him until he is 18. They have enough on their plate but she doesn't want him to feel rejected. Like she said he loves the beach house and has fun there but 6 months from now he might want to go back to Hope or Thomas? Hope and Liam are upset because they were so sure Douglas would pick them.
Like Steffy said. Douglas could decide later on that he wants to be with Hope or Thomas again. In fact, it might be just a temporary guardianship. So what are they all upset about????
@Chris091 Hope's afraid that Douglas will officially want to be with Steffy and Finn and not her. Hope just can't accept Douglas's answer, she wants to be her and only her.
I finally was capable to see the video. TY Bob. I think Steffy was great today and baby Hope, as usual thinks about herself... The selfish. Sheila is not only evil but smart. She's not going to give in to Deacon. She can't loose a mine full of gold. The program is starting to be interesting again.
Looks like Sheila only using Bill for the perks. She may try to kill him for his money, because she really has the hots for Deacon. Deacon will be her downfall!!
Oh gosh is this really the best storyline we can focus on? Who the kid lives with? We see him once in a blue moon anyway and he'll be back in some months. Let him go to Steffy's. But no, this will drag out now with everyone whining to everyone about it... Unless some Thomas action comes out of it, will be another vomit and eyeroll fest.
Skipped ove all the embarrassing Sheila and Deacon scenes but in the end she seemed quite mad at him 😈 where is Bill?
Me too! I think the actress is spectacular but when she starts making her "disgusted cat" face (courtesy of Lynn 😹) I just can't stand looking at her. And that's even before getting into the ridiculousness of two men being in love with her, one used to hate her and the other only wanted to get rid of her... It's insulting to the intelligence to watch.
The whole Deacon and Sheila being all sentimental about their long romance is just too much. And Steffy letting Douglas stay with them for a while is one thing, but she should not agree to permanent guardianship. Maybe a 6 month situation, then revisit the case.
Hope was actually acting as if she is better than Steffy.Steffy picked up on this as her tone changed towards Hope.Logans dont like to lose to Forresters especially Steffy
I'm glad Steffy reminded Hope that Douglas is a Forrester. It wasn't necessary but Hope was acting like Steffy was someone off the street that Douglas chose to live with.
First off, it was NOT Hope who had the papers drawn up which required Douglas to choose one or the other. It was Thomas who did it so he could stick it to Hope for not letting him have his job back at Forrester!! This is a pure revenge move on Thomas’ part, and highly predictable! And let’s also not forget that Thomas left in a huff after finding out Douglas didn’t choose his own blood related father to live with. Do where’s all the snide comments about Thomas?? This was NOT Hope’s doing, this was all on Thomas that it turned out this way. 100% Thomas’s fault as usual. And I find it very ironic that all you ladies who were saying just a few months back how wonderful Hope was behaving when she was letting Douglas live with Thomas for an unspecified period of time before the CPS debacle. You all were cheering Hope on, and now she is a selfish little whiner??!! Really??!!!! Pick a story!! Douglas will never have permanent residence at Steffy’s. I absolutely don’t see that happening…not in a million years. It will be temporary, just like Steffy stated. Steffy doesn’t even want Douglas to spend the next 10 years with her. She has her own family to worry about.
Thomas left the building. He did not go on and on and on with Steffy about "fix it" and "I am Douglas' mother too." It was Hope so it's obvious the discussion will focus on Hope.
What is funny lynn the hypocrisy These same people was feeling bad for steffy she break their sweet tinder hearts when hope took beth Steffy was her mother And her reaction was justified Its her daughter she bonded with her all over this few months Oh poor steffy Even so know the situation is so different Douglas is more to hope than what beth was to steffy Although i felt bad for steffy back then her pain was totally justified But still hope should hand HER SON over without questioning Especially after he lied to her the night before Anyway i didn’t wach the episode yet to speak about details But the amount of hypocrisy here is laughable
Thomas stomped out like the immature little child he is. And I’m sure we’re gonna hear all kinds of whining from Douglas. He just hasn’t had a chance yet. It’s coming…stay tuned! And like I said, this is all on Thomas for rolling the dice in the first place. Thomas loves to be the risk taker! But clearly and as usual, it didn’t end up working out in his favor. You talk about how selfish Hope is…well I’d like to point out how selfish Thomas is! And Hope has never once used Douglas like Thomas has used Douglas time and time again as a means to an end. It’s disgusting! Hope only cares about Douglas as a mother loves a child. Thomas has used Douglas in his schemes time and time again!! I hope Thomas loses Douglas for good!!
Mmysh, yes, the Logan haters are in full swing as usual. 😂😂😂😂 It will be great if Thomas loses his son for good! He is not fit to be a father. Every move he makes is for selfish reasons or for settling some score. Thomas never puts Douglas’ needs ahead of his own. The same cannot be said for Hope. She has never once used Douglas! She loves him unconditionally!
That whole thing with the judge and Douglas picking who to live with was so insane, so divorced from reality that it's even maddening to discuss. First Thomas draws up papers for Douglas to decide where he should live and who will raise him. How come? How is he even sure Douglas will want him after what he put him though - the only way Thomas would take such a risk is if he'd know he'll win.
Then Hope says okay, sure, it's not like it's a kid who has two parents who agree over and over to work *together* in his best interest but never manage. But confirms with Douglas he says directly he wants to live with her - Douglas doesn't lie/change his mind in a second or if he does, I severely overestimated him.
Then he picks Steffy (of course Finn will say yes, he'll say yes whoever and whatever she brings home, why not their nephew) after it was explained like to an idiot what the purpose of the hearing is and Douglas knew it was to decide with which parent to live. And the judge is all "oki doki, job done. Nobody to bribe me so may as well. Come on Douglas". Thomas storms out. Hope starts trying to reason. Steffy without even considering what this even means for her life, the Douglas life, her family says "how do you expect ME to reject him?" Hope is all "but do you realize what it means to raise him till he's an adult" - "Yeah yeah whatever I can't say no to my Forrester nephew." 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Oh and his justification "it's nice there and I like being around my nephews" - honestly?! That's literally the house argument some of us were joking about. At least give some actual Douglas-level argument, some story.
Btw Lynn Thomas shouldn't even be that mad. This gives him the best advantage - he can spend as much time as he wants with Douglas, for him it's easier being Steffy's brother to drop by anytime, he can sleep over (or even move in!) without a spouse or another child to be disadvantaged, doesn't have to bother with buying a house. If I'm Thomas I wouldn't even stomp 😂😂
Milla, yes, this whole Douglas custody thing is truly ridiculous! The fact that Douglas seemed surprised by Steffy’s initial reaction was so stupid. He’s a smart kid…he would know better than to just assume Steffy would simply say yes, as if she were agreeing to take home a new plant for the garden. She was clearly broadsided by Douglas’ proposal. And for a kid with his level of insight on most things, it just made Douglas appear clueless and very naive. That is not the Douglas we know. Also, like you said, the fact that Douglas has gone over there a few times and had fun with his cousins would not be justification for him to decide he wants to spend the next ten years of his life at Steffy’s. More garbage coming our way. I honestly don’t even like the show very much anymore. And the Sheila thing is devoid of any remote signs of reality. It’s mostly just barf inducing.
@Milla, I honestly think a big part of the reason Thomas was doing this was to hurt Hope because she hurt him by not putting her faith in him…unlike the other 200 times that she actually did put her faith in his ability to change. So by Douglas choosing Steffy, Thomas couldn’t stick it to Hope. But you’re right, he will have total access to Steffy’s. And if he truly just wants more time with his son, then this should make him happy. But I don’t think it will. Thomas is a plotter and a schemer as we know. And this clearly wasn’t part of his plan.
Lynn, to your comment at 5:08 PM, didn't you hear Hope salivating over having full custody of Douglas? And the next day, at the courthouse, she sat there with this smug look on her face like she had already won. Why do you think that was? She was elated at having full custody of Douglas so that she can use it to dictate when Thomas could spend time with his son. Please don't try to suggest that Hope is not beyond using a child when need be. She used her pregnancy with Beth to force Liam to leave Steffy and commit to her. And she continually used Douglas' well-being to justify why Thomas should not have him.
Elle, she wants full custody of Douglas so Thomas doesn’t have the ability to use and hurt his son anymore. I think Hope has been very clear about how upset she was that he threw his son under the bus when he made the CPS call and got caught. Hope was mortified that Thomas would hurt his son like he did. So of course she absolutely wants full custody AFTER that happened. However, before the lies and trickery surrounding the CPS call, Hope was the only one in her family who was actually on Thomas’ side and was happy to allow Thomas to keep Douglas at Eric’s, because she thought Douglas seemed happy. And as I already pointed out, you and many other FF’s were cheering Hope on when she put her faith in Thomas. But after this most recent screw up, Hope is FINALLY realizing that Thomas DOES NOT CHANGE!! So yes, now she wants Douglas in her possession so Thomas cannot use and hurt Douglas any longer. I praise her for that! All of this is in an effort to protect her son!!
I agree Thomas should be happy with the outcome as Hope would be giving him supervised visitation forever and he and Liam would be staring each other down.
At Steffy’s place at least he can visit in a neutral environment. I don’t think Steffy would be quick to let Thomas be alone with Douglas after what he did at this point.
While it’s true that Thomas drew up the papers, Hope could have refused to place Douglas in that position! No parent should put a 10 yr old there. Hope has plenty of evidence to being a judge as well corroborating witnesses to have a judge decide she should have some custody at this time.
I think the permanent sole custody was what tipped her over… she didn’t have to prove anything and Thomas would have been stuck until Thomas was 18.
However, she should NOT have gone along with it. She should have protected Douglas from that undue pressure and the guilt of the emotions of his parents. She CHOSE to go along and sign the papers.
Hope and Thomas both agreed to abide by Douglas’s decision. Hope should be glad he didn’t chose Thomas… that would have been terrible. He will be safe and loved and Hope will have tonnes of unrestricted access. SMH.
Lynn i wonder if these ladies who bashing hope for not wanting to lose Douglas I wonder if their kid came to them one day saying i want to stay with my aunt coz i like it there better T Do they will allow it ?? But since we are dealing with this hypocrisy of hope is not his mother The long term babysitter should handed him over and don’t act selfish because she doesn’t want him to have fun It was really laughable considering her selfish for not let him go 😂 As you said a while ago hope was really great 😂😂 And makes me more laugh is all the analysis we have been reading about that deep reasons of why Douglas chooses steffy 😂😂
Milla i totally agree Douglass has shown he loves living the “fun” life, Look at how much he enjoyed living at Eric’s where he had pretty much free reign to do whatever he wanted and had no responsibility. I think in some way he thinks it’s going to be like a never-ending play date at his Aunt Steffy’s house! I’m sure Steffy is going to agree to this arrangement. I was hoping that she wouldn’t…at least not without talking to Finn first. But I guess the writers wrote around that plot hole with the scenes between Finn and Li today where Finn seemed to feel sorry for Douglass and opine at what a great kid he was. He might be surprised if Steffy just comes bringing Douglass home for keeps without telling him, but Finn is a wuss, so I’m sure he won’t rock the boat And how hypocrite of steffy like always Saying your son to hope But then he is a forrester So the mother has no say about her children if the don’t share the same last name I wonder what steffy will do if liam came one day and took kelly saying she is a spencer But that we the shit only comes from steffy and psycho thomas only
Very valid points Mmysh. Lynn of course Thomas' timing with this court thing was no coincidence. And you're right that Hope's motive is to protect the kid, to give him stability (what kind of stability is living at his aunt's for 6 months, he's not an aquarium to be moved around on "lets see how it fits" basis). She should focus more on this and less on "I need him in the house, Beth needs him in the house" (what she's saying in today's episode).
@ Anonymous, I see the “look over there, there’s something shiny” in your rationale. Sure, Hope could have said no, and Thomas most likely would have pursued it anyway. When Thomas puts his mind to something, nothing stops him. And not sure why you are inclined to blame Hope when it was Thomas who had the papers drawn up. Don’t give the excuse that “Hope should have known better than to have gone along with it.” The truth is, Thomas should know better than to start this whole thing in the first place. I’m gonna point blame where blame deservedly lies, and that blame belongs to Thomas!!!
Milla, true! Poor Douglas has bounced all over the place. He probably does feel like an aquarium. That would be very unsettling as a young child…not to mention school. Do they all live 5 mins away from each other so he can attend the same school ? As we’ve all said, this whole plot line is so incredibly stupid!
Mmysh, their primary goal is to bash the Logans no matter the circumstances. So they breeze right past Thomas’s part in all this. Completely ridiculous. Because, yeah, Thomas is always the innocent one!! 😂😂🤣😂😂
Steffy knows Douglas shouldn’t be living with Thomas. He absolutely bollocksed this while thing up with his “let Douglas decide where to live.” He was delusional enough to think Douglas would pick him!
I think Steffy acknowledges that Hope is mother to Douglas and went out of her way to let Hope know she empathises with her situation.
On the other hand Steffy had to point out again that Thomas is her nephew. She does love him and care about what’s best for him.
The fact is Hope and Thomas signed off on him choosing where he lives and promised to honour his choice. Neither of them is doing that and trying to guilt him will only make him more determined to escape it and push him to Auntie Steffy. Douglas making a different choice than they anticipated is on them, not the 10 yr old child.
Douglas has been through so much. I don’t think Steffy can bear the thought of him feeling rejected by her and Finn.
Honestly if Hope and Liam’s is so perfect he should be dying to get back there. When he was with his dad, he was happy with Hope and Beth visiting him. He had no desire to go back to the cabin.
I’m not blaming Hope, I think she has been overall a loving presence in his life. Thomas managed to be a good father until he went all bad lad again. Thomas has no business raising Douglas at this point.
I think Steffy and Finn will provide a loving stable home for him until he’s feeling safe and settled enough to live elsewhere.
Hope, Liam, and Thomas need to learn to coexist and co-parent… or Douglas is never going to want to go back home again.
Anonymous, I agree with some of what you said above, but as Milla pointed out…Douglas has already bopped from home to home to home (like an aquarium) is the way she described it. And nothing about that kind of upheaval / lack of routine / consistency is good for a boy his age. Plus like I mentioned in another comment…what about school? Pretty sure they don’t all live 5 mins away from each other so that he can continue at his current school. What kid his age is gonna want to get yanked away from his friends? This storyline is so absurd…nothing even remotely realistic here. But like I’ve said 20 times, B&B has really taken a hit the last year or two. Probably longer. It’s like some fantasy show, not meant to depict anything remotely real.
And before the judge just assumes that some aunt is willing to take on the full time care of her nephew when both his parents are alive and wanting him, she would definitely have to confer with that aunt first. As I’ve said, it’s not like taking home a new plant for your garden! It’s agreeing to raise a child that isn’t yours for the next 10 years or so. That is HUGE!!!! No judge would assume that Steffy would simply sign on the dotted line, just because a 10 year old boy willed it to be true. Please tell me a scenario in which that would EVER happen??
Lynn true. Honestly at first I was all “who cares where he lives, we don't see him anyway", but now I realize that was a premature reaction (I just want some storyline with love, romance, excitement but not Sheila's!). It is important and also important to be written well. To be explained what prompted Douglas all of a sudden to go for Steffy and important for the grown-ups to stop tossing him around. There are plenty of divorced couples with kids, it shouldn't be that impossible to have shared custody. Thomas isn't the best example but Douglas would be heartbroken not to see him at all 😕. Until Thomas has got his act together (starting with a house! Stop being so stingy Thomas!!) best Douglas live with Hope.
Yes lynn its amaze me how some turn the events just to put the blame on the logens I only see comments about hope none about thomas And this comment about oh hope is afraid of losing Douglas And they said it as a wrong thing and against hope While there is no wrong with that at all All good mothers will be afraid of losing a child Im sure if hope acted with no care and agreed easily to let Douglas go They will bash her anyway Oh look she doesn’t care Its really funny
What a sad excuse for a parent. She neglects Beth (the same Beth who was "so important" to her... well only when she wasn't there that is) to chase after someone else's son obsessively and can't respect what he says he feels and wants, even after saying she would, and even tries to play the guilt card! Clearly she took a page out of Thomas' book in gaslighting "her" child... newsflash: a child can't raise a child! She's worse than Thomas cause she's a hypocrite. Leave the kid alone, give him some space and if you accepted this situation respect his decision. Save your annoying crybaby tears.
Steffy's right they did put themselves in this situation cause two selfish people who hate each other can't parent together... And now she has the gall to ask Steffy to fix this, when she wasn't even the one who made it happen?? I'm pretty sure she would've had the same tantrum had Douglas chosen his father... and now she's lecturing Steffy about motherhood lol. I hope Steffy goes along with this, Douglas needs a break from lunatics.
I couldn't care less about where Douglas lives. Can we just address the elephant in the room? Are we seriously supposed to be rooting for Sheila now? WtF is going on? Am I really supposed to believe that not only 1 but 2 men are actually in love with psycho Sheila's old flat ass? She is evil personified. I seem to remember Deacon trying to throw her out on the reg, but now he's practically begging her to be with him? I'm sorry, this Sheila shit has gone waaaaay too far and is just too unbelievable. I can't believe B&B is really trying to cr this shit down our throats. Ok, that is all😂
Hilary! 😊😊 Glad you are back. I was just thinking we haven’t heard from you in a long time. I couldn’t agree more on the Sheila thing. The fact that two very attractive men are in love with her sorry ass is ridiculous!! Honestly, she is not even attractive. And she has proven to be nothing other than wicked. Personally, I will NEVER root for Sheila! She belongs in prison and can do her cameo appearance from jail once every 6 months or so. That would be more than enough!!
Is there no other eligible woman in L.A., other than a nine-toed psychopath? It also seems like they're changing Sheila's character...softening her. Makes no sense...This show has lost the plot...I keep watching, hoping it'll get better...
@unknown, you don’t even want to give your name but from the sound of your comments, your gender pronoun must be “he”. LMFAO!! Maybe like a bored house husband. If you don’t like peoples comments quit reading them. Apparently you are the bored person to even bother to be angry about a soap opera. Testosterone level must be quite low? to even comment. LOL!!
Hope trying to guilt douglas 😠
ReplyDeleteDo U like Hope or not really???
DeleteWhat a disgusting selfish woman she is!
DeleteVery selfish. Like I've always said, Hope pretends a lot. She kept throwing it in Thomas' face that this is about Douglas and his safety but now it's about "He is my son too, Steffy"
DeleteI could not help but find humor with Hope as I kept remembering how she ripped Beth away from Steffy. Now, her son has willingly chosen to live with Steffy and Hope (and Thomas) has signed off on it! Lmao.
Agree with all of you, and then Hope wants Steffy to actually reject Douglas. SMH. Steffy would still have to talk it over with Finn before making it final. No child his age should have to make such a decision no matter how smart you think he is.
DeleteLadies I am stunned that Hope and Thomas tell poor wee Douglas that he shouldn’t worry and they will accept his answer. The second he gives it they both lose it on him. Seriously, as PP stated NO 10 yr old should be put in that position. Hope and Thomas both showed clearly that Douglas made the correct decision. He knew that the parent he didn’t choose wouldn’t accept his decision… can you imagine the guilt that would be heaped on his head whenever he spent time with the one he didn’t choose????
DeleteHow can anyone expect Steffy to turn her back on him? She knows that Thomas shouldn’t be raising him… she also knows he might change his mind about him living with Hope eventually… as his guardian she could allow him to live there and still make decisions to protect his interests.
I’m stunned by all the nasty comments about Douglas. He’s a little boy!! He isn’t some 16 yr old, that would be difficult enough, but a 10 yr old?? Clever or not, they don’t have the reasoning of an adult. Yet all these adults are sitting in judgement expecting him think like a 25 yr old!
As for Finn, he’s a loving generous man, of course he would be okay raising Douglas. He just spoke to his mother regarding the wee fella needing stability etc. He isn’t going to turn his back on his nephew.
Both Thomas and Hope had a go at Steffy. If Douglas had chosen Thomas , Hope would have the same reaction. If he chose Hope, Thomas would be acting the same.
DeleteI don’t think he belongs with Thomas. However living in a home where they despise his father and spend hours making nasty comments about him isn’t exactly a good environment either. Children identify themselves with their parents… it does emotional damage.
I found Hope saying he said he wanted to live with her a bit disingenuous… she gave the choice between her or his dad.
Not to mention the intense atmosphere in the judge’s chambers… Auntie Steffy said she was there to support Douglas. She was the only one not applying pressure to him. It was way too much for a 10 yr old to deal with.
I hope Steffy and Finn take him into their home. He will be able to see both of his parents and be without the constant hostility. Steady will go mama bear on either of them if they try to guilt Douglas.
I’ve never heard Hope or Liam say disparaging things about Thomas in front of Douglas. I can’t think of a single time that happened.
DeleteI think Steffy made really good points and she is going to probably agree to a temporary guardianship.
ReplyDeleteWell if Steffy does agree to just a Temporary guardianship, what's the problem then? I mean why are Thomas, Hope and Liam upset? Temporary means they'll have another shot with Douglas then!!
DeleteThe problem is that Thomas and Hope did not sign over temporary guardianship to whoever Douglas chose to live with. Steffy will be Douglas' guardian until he becomes a young adult.
DeleteElle, Steffy hasn't signed anything yet and I'm sure she could ask the judge for temporary guardianship and then revisit the case in 6 months. At least I would hope so. She hasn't even talked to Finn yet but it will be a long storyline. A lot of fighting between them all. Hope won't agree with some of the decisions Steffy makes for Douglas. Her parenting will be different than Hope's and the poor kid is still going to be in a tense environment.
DeleteD, I really hope that Thomas and Hope do not come over to Steffy's with their nonsense although, it seems that Steffy will do whatever it takes to ensure that Douglas is happy and unstressed. She seems to be really concerned about his welfare and the environment that his parents have created around him. And I really hope that both Steffy and Finn agree to be his guardians permanently.
DeleteDouglas has really put Steffy in the corner, she is so speechless that she just doesn't know how to answer him without hurting his feelings. Now, it's going to be feud battle between Hope & Liam and Steffy & Finn over Douglas. Did Thomas and Hope just say to Douglas for him to choose, well he did just that
ReplyDeleteand he chose neither of them instead he preferred Steffy. It is obviously that he likes the surroundings where Steffy lives, and he rather be there than Hope's little house, so learn to accept that Thomas, Hope, and Liam.
I don't think Steffy and Finn will want the responsibility raising him until he is 18. They have enough on their plate but she doesn't want him to feel rejected. Like she said he loves the beach house and has fun there but 6 months from now he might want to go back to Hope or Thomas? Hope and Liam are upset because they were so sure Douglas would pick them.
DeleteLike Steffy said. Douglas could decide later on that he wants to be with Hope or Thomas again. In fact, it might be just a temporary guardianship. So what are they all upset about????
Delete@Chris091 Hope's afraid that Douglas will officially want to be with Steffy and Finn and not her. Hope just can't accept Douglas's answer, she wants to be her and only her.
DeleteI finally was capable to see the video. TY Bob.
ReplyDeleteI think Steffy was great today and baby Hope, as usual thinks about herself... The selfish.
Sheila is not only evil but smart. She's not going to give in to Deacon. She can't loose a mine full of gold. The program is starting to be interesting again.
Lol. As Deacon puts it...A sexy 9 toe genius. 🤮
DeleteLooks like Sheila only using Bill for the perks. She may try to kill him for his money, because she really has the hots for Deacon. Deacon will be her downfall!!
DeleteI love $ Bill. I hope not!!
DeleteOh gosh is this really the best storyline we can focus on? Who the kid lives with? We see him once in a blue moon anyway and he'll be back in some months. Let him go to Steffy's. But no, this will drag out now with everyone whining to everyone about it... Unless some Thomas action comes out of it, will be another vomit and eyeroll fest.
ReplyDeleteSkipped ove all the embarrassing Sheila and Deacon scenes but in the end she seemed quite mad at him 😈 where is Bill?
I ffwd all of Sheila’s scenes… just cannot stomach it 🤮
DeleteMe too! I think the actress is spectacular but when she starts making her "disgusted cat" face (courtesy of Lynn 😹) I just can't stand looking at her. And that's even before getting into the ridiculousness of two men being in love with her, one used to hate her and the other only wanted to get rid of her... It's insulting to the intelligence to watch.
DeleteThe whole Deacon and Sheila being all sentimental about their long romance is just too much. And Steffy letting Douglas stay with them for a while is one thing, but she should not agree to permanent guardianship. Maybe a 6 month situation, then revisit the case.
ReplyDeleteThe story about Douglas will drag and drag on forever!
DeleteHope was actually acting as if she is better than Steffy.Steffy picked up on this as her tone changed towards Hope.Logans dont like to lose to Forresters especially Steffy
ReplyDelete😂😂😂😂😂
DeleteI'm glad Steffy reminded Hope that Douglas is a Forrester. It wasn't necessary but Hope was acting like Steffy was someone off the street that Douglas chose to live with.
DeleteSteffy needs to rip Douglas from Hope, paybacks are hell aren’t they Hope for ripping Beth from Steffy. LOL!!
DeleteRoseam 😂😂😂😂 really thanks for always proving my point 😂😂😂😂
DeleteElle its funny
DeleteSo can a husband sister come and do whatever with the kids just because the mother doesn’t have the same last name
How lame
Thank you Bob xxxx
ReplyDeleteHope wants to be in control of everything she wants to have full custody so she can decide when thomas can see douglas it's all about her not douglas
ReplyDeleteCorrect!
DeleteFirst off, it was NOT Hope who had the papers drawn up which required Douglas to choose one or the other. It was Thomas who did it so he could stick it to Hope for not letting him have his job back at Forrester!! This is a pure revenge move on Thomas’ part, and highly predictable! And let’s also not forget that Thomas left in a huff after finding out Douglas didn’t choose his own blood related father to live with. Do where’s all the snide comments about Thomas?? This was NOT Hope’s doing, this was all on Thomas that it turned out this way. 100% Thomas’s fault as usual.
DeleteAnd I find it very ironic that all you ladies who were saying just a few months back how wonderful Hope was behaving when she was letting Douglas live with Thomas for an unspecified period of time before the CPS debacle. You all were cheering Hope on, and now she is a selfish little whiner??!! Really??!!!! Pick a story!!
Douglas will never have permanent residence at Steffy’s. I absolutely don’t see that happening…not in a million years. It will be temporary, just like Steffy stated. Steffy doesn’t even want Douglas to spend the next 10 years with her. She has her own family to worry about.
Thomas left the building. He did not go on and on and on with Steffy about "fix it" and "I am Douglas' mother too." It was Hope so it's obvious the discussion will focus on Hope.
DeleteWhat is funny lynn the hypocrisy
DeleteThese same people was feeling bad for steffy she break their sweet tinder hearts when hope took beth
Steffy was her mother
And her reaction was justified
Its her daughter she bonded with her all over this few months
Oh poor steffy
Even so know the situation is so different
Douglas is more to hope than what beth was to steffy
Although i felt bad for steffy back then her pain was totally justified
But still hope should hand HER SON over without questioning
Especially after he lied to her the night before
Anyway i didn’t wach the episode yet to speak about details
But the amount of hypocrisy here is laughable
Thomas stomped out like the immature little child he is. And I’m sure we’re gonna hear all kinds of whining from Douglas. He just hasn’t had a chance yet. It’s coming…stay tuned! And like I said, this is all on Thomas for rolling the dice in the first place. Thomas loves to be the risk taker! But clearly and as usual, it didn’t end up working out in his favor. You talk about how selfish Hope is…well I’d like to point out how selfish Thomas is! And Hope has never once used Douglas like Thomas has used Douglas time and time again as a means to an end. It’s disgusting! Hope only cares about Douglas as a mother loves a child. Thomas has used Douglas in his schemes time and time again!! I hope Thomas loses Douglas for good!!
DeleteThat should have said….I’m sure we’re gonna hear all kinds of whining from Thomas!
DeleteMmysh, yes, the Logan haters are in full swing as usual. 😂😂😂😂
DeleteIt will be great if Thomas loses his son for good! He is not fit to be a father. Every move he makes is for selfish reasons or for settling some score. Thomas never puts Douglas’ needs ahead of his own. The same cannot be said for Hope. She has never once used Douglas! She loves him unconditionally!
That whole thing with the judge and Douglas picking who to live with was so insane, so divorced from reality that it's even maddening to discuss. First Thomas draws up papers for Douglas to decide where he should live and who will raise him. How come? How is he even sure Douglas will want him after what he put him though - the only way Thomas would take such a risk is if he'd know he'll win.
DeleteThen Hope says okay, sure, it's not like it's a kid who has two parents who agree over and over to work *together* in his best interest but never manage. But confirms with Douglas he says directly he wants to live with her - Douglas doesn't lie/change his mind in a second or if he does, I severely overestimated him.
Then he picks Steffy (of course Finn will say yes, he'll say yes whoever and whatever she brings home, why not their nephew) after it was explained like to an idiot what the purpose of the hearing is and Douglas knew it was to decide with which parent to live. And the judge is all "oki doki, job done. Nobody to bribe me so may as well. Come on Douglas".
Thomas storms out. Hope starts trying to reason. Steffy without even considering what this even means for her life, the Douglas life, her family says "how do you expect ME to reject him?" Hope is all "but do you realize what it means to raise him till he's an adult" - "Yeah yeah whatever I can't say no to my Forrester nephew." 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Whoever is writing this is criminal.
Oh and his justification "it's nice there and I like being around my nephews" - honestly?! That's literally the house argument some of us were joking about. At least give some actual Douglas-level argument, some story.
DeleteBtw Lynn Thomas shouldn't even be that mad. This gives him the best advantage - he can spend as much time as he wants with Douglas, for him it's easier being Steffy's brother to drop by anytime, he can sleep over (or even move in!) without a spouse or another child to be disadvantaged, doesn't have to bother with buying a house. If I'm Thomas I wouldn't even stomp 😂😂
DeleteMilla, yes, this whole Douglas custody thing is truly ridiculous! The fact that Douglas seemed surprised by Steffy’s initial reaction was so stupid. He’s a smart kid…he would know better than to just assume Steffy would simply say yes, as if she were agreeing to take home a new plant for the garden. She was clearly broadsided by Douglas’ proposal. And for a kid with his level of insight on most things, it just made Douglas appear clueless and very naive. That is not the Douglas we know.
DeleteAlso, like you said, the fact that Douglas has gone over there a few times and had fun with his cousins would not be justification for him to decide he wants to spend the next ten years of his life at Steffy’s. More garbage coming our way. I honestly don’t even like the show very much anymore.
And the Sheila thing is devoid of any remote signs of reality. It’s mostly just barf inducing.
@Milla, I honestly think a big part of the reason Thomas was doing this was to hurt Hope because she hurt him by not putting her faith in him…unlike the other 200 times that she actually did put her faith in his ability to change. So by Douglas choosing Steffy, Thomas couldn’t stick it to Hope. But you’re right, he will have total access to Steffy’s. And if he truly just wants more time with his son, then this should make him happy. But I don’t think it will. Thomas is a plotter and a schemer as we know. And this clearly wasn’t part of his plan.
DeleteLynn, to your comment at 5:08 PM, didn't you hear Hope salivating over having full custody of Douglas? And the next day, at the courthouse, she sat there with this smug look on her face like she had already won. Why do you think that was? She was elated at having full custody of Douglas so that she can use it to dictate when Thomas could spend time with his son. Please don't try to suggest that Hope is not beyond using a child when need be. She used her pregnancy with Beth to force Liam to leave Steffy and commit to her. And she continually used Douglas' well-being to justify why Thomas should not have him.
DeleteElle, she wants full custody of Douglas so Thomas doesn’t have the ability to use and hurt his son anymore. I think Hope has been very clear about how upset she was that he threw his son under the bus when he made the CPS call and got caught. Hope was mortified that Thomas would hurt his son like he did. So of course she absolutely wants full custody AFTER that happened. However, before the lies and trickery surrounding the CPS call, Hope was the only one in her family who was actually on Thomas’ side and was happy to allow Thomas to keep Douglas at Eric’s, because she thought Douglas seemed happy. And as I already pointed out, you and many other FF’s were cheering Hope on when she put her faith in Thomas. But after this most recent screw up, Hope is FINALLY realizing that Thomas DOES NOT CHANGE!! So yes, now she wants Douglas in her possession so Thomas cannot use and hurt Douglas any longer. I praise her for that! All of this is in an effort to protect her son!!
DeleteI agree Thomas should be happy with the outcome as Hope would be giving him supervised visitation forever and he and Liam would be staring each other down.
DeleteAt Steffy’s place at least he can visit in a neutral environment. I don’t think Steffy would be quick to let Thomas be alone with Douglas after what he did at this point.
While it’s true that Thomas drew up the papers, Hope could have refused to place Douglas in that position! No parent should put a 10 yr old there. Hope has plenty of evidence to being a judge as well corroborating witnesses to have a judge decide she should have some custody at this time.
I think the permanent sole custody was what tipped her over… she didn’t have to prove anything and Thomas would have been stuck until Thomas was 18.
However, she should NOT have gone along with it. She should have protected Douglas from that undue pressure and the guilt of the emotions of his parents. She CHOSE to go along and sign the papers.
Hope and Thomas both agreed to abide by Douglas’s decision. Hope should be glad he didn’t chose Thomas… that would have been terrible. He will be safe and loved and Hope will have tonnes of unrestricted access. SMH.
Lynn i wonder if these ladies who bashing hope for not wanting to lose Douglas
DeleteI wonder if their kid came to them one day saying i want to stay with my aunt coz i like it there better
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Do they will allow it ??
But since we are dealing with this hypocrisy of hope is not his mother
The long term babysitter should handed him over and don’t act selfish because she doesn’t want him to have fun
It was really laughable considering her selfish for not let him go 😂
As you said a while ago hope was really great 😂😂
And makes me more laugh is all the analysis we have been reading about that deep reasons of why Douglas chooses steffy 😂😂
Milla i totally agree
DeleteDouglass has shown he loves living the “fun” life, Look at how much he enjoyed living at Eric’s where he had pretty much free reign to do whatever he wanted and had no responsibility. I think in some way he thinks it’s going to be like a never-ending play date at his Aunt Steffy’s house!
I’m sure Steffy is going to agree to this arrangement. I was hoping that she wouldn’t…at least not without talking to Finn first. But I guess the writers wrote around that plot hole with the scenes between Finn and Li today where Finn seemed to feel sorry for Douglass and opine at what a great kid he was.
He might be surprised if Steffy just comes bringing Douglass home for keeps without telling him, but Finn is a wuss, so I’m sure he won’t rock the boat
And how hypocrite of steffy like always
Saying your son to hope
But then he is a forrester
So the mother has no say about her children if the don’t share the same last name
I wonder what steffy will do if liam came one day and took kelly saying she is a spencer
But that we the shit only comes from steffy and psycho thomas only
Very valid points Mmysh.
DeleteLynn of course Thomas' timing with this court thing was no coincidence. And you're right that Hope's motive is to protect the kid, to give him stability (what kind of stability is living at his aunt's for 6 months, he's not an aquarium to be moved around on "lets see how it fits" basis). She should focus more on this and less on "I need him in the house, Beth needs him in the house" (what she's saying in today's episode).
@ Anonymous, I see the “look over there, there’s something shiny” in your rationale. Sure, Hope could have said no, and Thomas most likely would have pursued it anyway. When Thomas puts his mind to something, nothing stops him. And not sure why you are inclined to blame Hope when it was Thomas who had the papers drawn up. Don’t give the excuse that “Hope should have known better than to have gone along with it.” The truth is, Thomas should know better than to start this whole thing in the first place. I’m gonna point blame where blame deservedly lies, and that blame belongs to Thomas!!!
DeleteMilla, true! Poor Douglas has bounced all over the place. He probably does feel like an aquarium. That would be very unsettling as a young child…not to mention school. Do they all live 5 mins away from each other so he can attend the same school ? As we’ve all said, this whole plot line is so incredibly stupid!
DeleteMmysh, their primary goal is to bash the Logans no matter the circumstances. So they breeze right past Thomas’s part in all this. Completely ridiculous. Because, yeah, Thomas is always the innocent one!! 😂😂🤣😂😂
DeleteSteffy knows Douglas shouldn’t be living with Thomas. He absolutely bollocksed this while thing up with his “let Douglas decide where to live.” He was delusional enough to think Douglas would pick him!
DeleteI think Steffy acknowledges that Hope is mother to Douglas and went out of her way to let Hope know she empathises with her situation.
On the other hand Steffy had to point out again that Thomas is her nephew. She does love him and care about what’s best for him.
The fact is Hope and Thomas signed off on him choosing where he lives and promised to honour his choice. Neither of them is doing that and trying to guilt him will only make him more determined to escape it and push him to Auntie Steffy. Douglas making a different choice than they anticipated is on them, not the 10 yr old child.
Douglas has been through so much. I don’t think Steffy can bear the thought of him feeling rejected by her and Finn.
Honestly if Hope and Liam’s is so perfect he should be dying to get back there. When he was with his dad, he was happy with Hope and Beth visiting him. He had no desire to go back to the cabin.
I’m not blaming Hope, I think she has been overall a loving presence in his life. Thomas managed to be a good father until he went all bad lad again. Thomas has no business raising Douglas at this point.
I think Steffy and Finn will provide a loving stable home for him until he’s feeling safe and settled enough to live elsewhere.
Hope, Liam, and Thomas need to learn to coexist and co-parent… or Douglas is never going to want to go back home again.
Douglas is her nephew… sorry.
DeleteAnonymous, I agree with some of what you said above, but as Milla pointed out…Douglas has already bopped from home to home to home (like an aquarium) is the way she described it. And nothing about that kind of upheaval / lack of routine / consistency is good for a boy his age. Plus like I mentioned in another comment…what about school? Pretty sure they don’t all live 5 mins away from each other so that he can continue at his current school. What kid his age is gonna want to get yanked away from his friends? This storyline is so absurd…nothing even remotely realistic here. But like I’ve said 20 times, B&B has really taken a hit the last year or two. Probably longer. It’s like some fantasy show, not meant to depict anything remotely real.
DeleteAnd before the judge just assumes that some aunt is willing to take on the full time care of her nephew when both his parents are alive and wanting him, she would definitely have to confer with that aunt first. As I’ve said, it’s not like taking home a new plant for your garden! It’s agreeing to raise a child that isn’t yours for the next 10 years or so. That is HUGE!!!! No judge would assume that Steffy would simply sign on the dotted line, just because a 10 year old boy willed it to be true. Please tell me a scenario in which that would EVER happen??
DeleteLynn true. Honestly at first I was all “who cares where he lives, we don't see him anyway", but now I realize that was a premature reaction (I just want some storyline with love, romance, excitement but not Sheila's!). It is important and also important to be written well. To be explained what prompted Douglas all of a sudden to go for Steffy and important for the grown-ups to stop tossing him around. There are plenty of divorced couples with kids, it shouldn't be that impossible to have shared custody. Thomas isn't the best example but Douglas would be heartbroken not to see him at all 😕. Until Thomas has got his act together (starting with a house! Stop being so stingy Thomas!!) best Douglas live with Hope.
DeleteYes lynn its amaze me how some turn the events just to put the blame on the logens
DeleteI only see comments about hope none about thomas
And this comment about oh hope is afraid of losing Douglas
And they said it as a wrong thing and against hope
While there is no wrong with that at all
All good mothers will be afraid of losing a child
Im sure if hope acted with no care and agreed easily to let Douglas go
They will bash her anyway
Oh look she doesn’t care
Its really funny
Milla and Mmysh, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
DeleteHow is anyone defending Ho Hope after this??
ReplyDeleteWhat a sad excuse for a parent. She neglects Beth (the same Beth who was "so important" to her... well only when she wasn't there that is) to chase after someone else's son obsessively and can't respect what he says he feels and wants, even after saying she would, and even tries to play the guilt card! Clearly she took a page out of Thomas' book in gaslighting "her" child... newsflash: a child can't raise a child! She's worse than Thomas cause she's a hypocrite. Leave the kid alone, give him some space and if you accepted this situation respect his decision. Save your annoying crybaby tears.
Steffy's right they did put themselves in this situation cause two selfish people who hate each other can't parent together... And now she has the gall to ask Steffy to fix this, when she wasn't even the one who made it happen?? I'm pretty sure she would've had the same tantrum had Douglas chosen his father... and now she's lecturing Steffy about motherhood lol. I hope Steffy goes along with this, Douglas needs a break from lunatics.
The gall of Hope to insinuate that Steffy could not be a good parent to Douglas. Wow!
DeleteI couldn't care less about where Douglas lives. Can we just address the elephant in the room? Are we seriously supposed to be rooting for Sheila now? WtF is going on? Am I really supposed to believe that not only 1 but 2 men are actually in love with psycho Sheila's old flat ass? She is evil personified. I seem to remember Deacon trying to throw her out on the reg, but now he's practically begging her to be with him? I'm sorry, this Sheila shit has gone waaaaay too far and is just too unbelievable. I can't believe B&B is really trying to cr this shit down our throats. Ok, that is all😂
DeleteHilary! 😊😊 Glad you are back. I was just thinking we haven’t heard from you in a long time.
DeleteI couldn’t agree more on the Sheila thing. The fact that two very attractive men are in love with her sorry ass is ridiculous!! Honestly, she is not even attractive. And she has proven to be nothing other than wicked. Personally, I will NEVER root for Sheila! She belongs in prison and can do her cameo appearance from jail once every 6 months or so. That would be more than enough!!
Is there no other eligible woman in L.A., other than a nine-toed psychopath? It also seems like they're changing Sheila's character...softening her. Makes no sense...This show has lost the plot...I keep watching, hoping it'll get better...
DeleteOh lama you crack the hell out of me 😂😂😂
Deletebored housewives bashing the actors again....get a LIFE ladies!
ReplyDelete@unknown, you don’t even want to give your name but from the sound of your comments, your gender pronoun must be “he”. LMFAO!! Maybe like a bored house husband. If you don’t like peoples comments quit reading them. Apparently you are the bored person to even bother to be angry about a soap opera. Testosterone level must be quite low? to even comment. LOL!!
ReplyDeleteRoseam, 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Delete"Bored house husband" 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
DeleteThanks Bob 🙂👀🤟🏼😜
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