The Bold and the Beautiful 5-12-23 Full episode B&B 12th May 2023
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Thank you Bob 👍
ReplyDeleteThank You Bob n Enjoy Your Weekend 🌹
ReplyDeleteWhat a cliff hanger
ReplyDeleteThomas was drawing me in with those eyes lol
Thank you Bob
Have a lovely weekend 😘 xxxx
Matthew is such a great actor. He can have the most evil look in his eyes then totally flip to that soft, understanding look that he gave Hope when she was having her mini meltdown. Then, at the end.... he totally drew me in! 😂😂
DeleteElle and the dimples? 😊😊😊 he is a good actor as others are, but I have to love Thomas good or bad
DeleteLiam is such an handsome guy, but how it should be really difficult to give up jumping on Thomas 😅
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DeleteThe dreaded, but predictable plane having mechanical problems. Next, the hotel won't have any available rooms. If that is the case, Thomas should find a different hotel. I think FC can cover the cost.
ReplyDeleteI really liked how Liam was making fun of all the tired cliches associated with the "stranded together" storyline - the plane, the no rooms etc. That means to me that they won't go that boring predictable way and have them cuddle on one bed but not do anything but "their relationship will never be the same after that" (spoken with the voice of the Bachelor host).
DeleteMilla, yes….Liam is very funny and smart. He’s actually one of my favorite characters on the soap.
DeleteMe too Lynn ❤️🤗
DeleteSo Liamidiot, send the Spencer Jet to pick her or them up, no problem.
ReplyDeleteI wondered about that.
DeleteBetter yet, Liam could get on the Spencer jet to go pick her or them up, no problem...as long as Liam knocks before entering the room... 😂
DeleteExactly! I was thinking that as well lol. Bill would certainly okay that!
DeleteThank you Bob. This is the identical story with Brooke and Deacon when she got drunk.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't want for this to happen.
😂 😂 😂 he's so obsessed with Hope & Thomas being alone, that thought hasn't occurred to him.
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DeleteLiam is driving himself crazy. Hope has told him over and over that if Thomas messes up, he's out. Why can't he trust that Hope can handle herself? Why does he think that Hope is some helpless little girl who wouldn't be able to help herself if Thomas makes a move? What is Liam really afraid of?
DeleteConsidering what Thomas has shown himself capable of (trying to kidnap her on a helicopter) Liam will always be justified to expect something Hope cannot handle herself where Thomas is concerned.
DeleteMilla - exactly. And now it’s Steffy coming to bring Liam’s mind back to the Thomas cluster. Poor Liam has Wyatt, Finn and Steffy constantly in his ear. No wonder he can’t get stupid Thomas out of his head.
DeleteSo the FF’s are always so into “clues”…maybe take a look at this one….
Hope was telling Thomas how much she loves her husband, her family and the life they share. Then she digresses a bit and talks about how Liam has cheated on her in the past and yet she’s always towed the line. If anything comes from this….on Monday's show, it will simply be a kiss or hopefully nothing at all. Then Hope will have gotten whatever is eating at her…out of her system!! There is ZERO indication that she plans on giving up everything she has (that she LOVES) to be with Thomas! Zero chance FF’s!!! This whole Thomas / Hope thing is absolutely gonna fall flat as predicted!
And one final thing…why is Thomas going in for the hug and looking into her eyes??!!! I certainly don’t see him fighting her off or trying to get away. We’ll see how he plays this on Monday’s show, but for now it appears he’s all in! Not what he has been telling everyone..,.and not what Steffy has been telling everyone!
Steffy your skirt is way too short. Can you ever just dress like a woman in her 30’s??? Not sure why that is so difficult.
Lol well Lynn from your lips to wardrobe’s ears !!!
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DeleteReally? Thomas has come so far past that incident and Liam is really still holding on to that one moment in history? And that is supposed to justify him thinking that Hope is some helpless idiot who cannot defend herself?
DeleteElle, that one moment in history?? Lol. It was a very BIG MOMENT! And beyond that, that is JUST ONE of the terrible things Thomas has done over the years. This isn’t new news.
DeleteAnd what does Hope have with Liam exactly? Besides a family, which she also has with Thomas?
DeleteThis is the second time that Hope has brought up Liam's past infidelities. She never used to do that before so it's clear that their marriage and Hope's feelings for Liam are not as they used to be. Her resentment for his past actions is just brimming to the top. I'm sure the LFs can at least admit to that.
And Elle, this has nothing to do with Hope being a helpless idiot. It’s an inappropriate position to be in. Everyone on the show seems to have no issue recognizing that fact. Take your blinders off.
DeleteWhat's an inappropriate position to be in? Thomas and Hope on a business trip together?
DeleteI didn’t see Hope bring up Liam’s infidelities before today. When else did she do that?
DeleteWhat does she have with Liam?? Are you seriously asking that question. I don’t need to answer that. Hope tells us that very thing pretty much every single day on the show. All you need to do is hear the words coming from her mouth. I think Hope loves and appreciates Liam as much as she ever has! She also told him Liam that on yesterday’s episode. Maybe you aren’t listening.
Elle, seriously why do you do that?? The play dumb thing. No, not them being on a business trip together. The fact that they are going to have to spend the night in San Francisco together. And the cozy little dinner in the hotel room isn’t too cool either. I know you aren’t able to connect reality to the soap. Not sure why that is so hard. But if that were my husband having a cozy dinner and overnight stay with someone who was obsessed over him, I would NOT be happy. This is truly not rocket science!
DeleteYou are so blinded by your intense desire for Thomas and Hope to be a couple that you are blocking out all logic and reason. Like I said, take off those blinders. Liam is her husband!!! Respect that fact!!
DeleteOmg why can’t u see that there’s something going on soon between them I think ur the only one that doesn’t believe it. Wow
DeleteUnknown - you have been singing the same song for over a month now and you still have nothing to show for it! I find that funny!!
DeleteWhat u talking about wat ever u think , I only started coming on here only 2 weeks ago sorry u must be thinking of someone else
DeleteNothing is going to happen between Thomas and Hope. This has gotten dragged out for well over a month and still nothing!!
DeleteThere are multiple posters that go by the name Unknown.
DeleteOmg..I just came in to grab a beer and thought I'd check the blog,. BIg mistake. I have a few comments to make, I'll wait until tomorrow. I'm definitely not watching the same show. Cheers 🍻 back out to the fire.
DeleteLynn if there was going to be a kiss I'm pretty sure it would have happened now and left us wondering the whole weekend that it means. They won't start the Monday with a kiss. At least how I know this show. And you're right about Liam's perceptions and that it's not a rocket science. And I also believe it's not so hard to put yourself in his shoes. He'd be justified to mistrust Thomas forever after what he put him through and how many times all those people have sung the "he's changed" song.
DeleteI'm not saying that Thomas hasn't been showing he's changed. I'm saying Liam is justified to be on alert.
Well i guess only an idiot can get over someone once try to kill him easily
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DeleteLynn, Hope brought up Liam and how forgets what he did to her. How he doesn’t trust her when she’s never done anything to deserve it. She is resentful about it. It’s almost like she was saying that if everyone thinks she’s like her mum and her cheating husband doesn’t trust her why bother? She’s tried to live out her morals and she’s ready to give in to temptation.
DeleteFYI, Thomas was ringing down to get his hotel room immediately after they realised they weren’t going to be flying home! He was going to leave the food they ordered for Hope and go get sushi for himself.
Hope said it was daft and they should celebrate their success together!
By the way did anyone else hear say they are business partners on the line?? She told Thomas again this week that it’s their line. It’s their partnership that makes it work her vision and his designs.
Someone said he recently he could just train another designer to make them. But each designer has a unique eye and design sensibility. One can try to copy another’s work but it will never be the inspired originals. That is the foundation of fashion houses, original designs! One cannot teach that.
I respectfully disagree that it’s inappropriate for them to go on a business trip together. It’s not like there is only one hotel or hotel room there. Sure business associates travel together all the time and previously they had traveled and it wasn’t a big thing.
Again with saying Steffy should say something. She’s not 100% sure there is an issue. For her to tell Liam anything without being completely sure would be wrong. Again LFs would accuse her of trying to destroy their marriage. How dare she… blah blah. She’s being honest that Thomas isn’t the one going to cause an issue.
Lynn, I wasn't trying to be daft, honestly I wasn't. I was just seeking clarity on the inappropriate position you were referring to so that I would know how to respond. Then I fell asleep. 🤭Sorry.
DeleteNoone else on the show other than Steffy and Liam know about Thomas and Hope being stranded. So I'm not sure how "Everyone on the show seems to have no issue recognizing that fact." I'm not sure what you mean which is why I was confused.
"I didn’t see Hope bring up Liam’s infidelities before today. When else did she do that?"
DeleteI believe it happened when Liam walked in on Thomas and Hope in each other's arms after she fell during a fitting. Hope and Liam were arguing and she threw it in his face. I remember the LFs saying that she was wrong for doing that. Now, here she is bringing it up again. Seems it's still on her mind. It wasn't before. What it tells me is that Hope it's finding reasons to justify what she is feeling for Thomas. And that is not a good sign, Lynn.
"You are so blinded by your intense desire for Thomas and Hope to be a couple that you are blocking out all logic and reason. Like I said, take off those blinders. Liam is her husband!!! Respect that fact!!"
DeleteMy dearest Lynn, I could say the same about you - - you are so blinded by your intense desire for Liam and Hope to remain a couple that you are blocking out what is happening with Hope, which is so plain to see. If you take off your blinders, you would see that no matter how hard Hope tries to keep her marriage together, she keeps pulling further and further away from Liam, her husband!!! How can I respect a (fictional) marriage when Hope herself doesn't respect her own marriage???!!!
And to further elaborate on my question about what do Liam and Hope have (it wasn't a literal question), their marriage hasn't been solid for some time now. As we know, Hope has not been spending a lot of time at home with Liam. RJ confirmed that recently when he told Thomas the other day that he has heard that Thomas and Hope spend all their time together. Because of this, Hope has been developing feelings for Thomas to the point where she is now finding justifications for her feelings. She has been struggling for some time now and it's only because Steffy told her about it, that she is now trying to make time for her husband and marriage. She has made claims to Thomas that he (not her husband) truly sees her and now she is even bringing up her husband's past infidelities with Thomas (why would she do that?)
DeleteSo I'll ask again, exactly what do Liam and Hope have that would make it so difficult for Hope to walk away from? Add to which, she also has a family with Thomas and their son has been wanting his parents together for a very long time. And we all know that Hope desperately wants to ensure Douglas' happiness.
Elle, there is a lot to address so I may not touch on everything.
DeleteFirst off - you are telling me to hear Hope and what she says to Thomas. But I have to ask myself…are you hearing Hope?? She told Thomas how proud she is of the changes she sees in him, and that she actually considers him a FRIEND now, rather than someone she is at odds with all the time. The word “friend” that she used is a critical component to leave out when explaining to me everything Hope said / meant when she was with Thomas in the hotel room.
And I can’t believe what you are implying. Please tell me if I am misunderstanding you, because I must be. What I hear you saying is that a married woman is perfectly justified ‘exploring her feelings’ for another man because sometime in the future she may want to divorce her husband and pursue ‘Plan B’ Thomas?? Are you freakin kidding me?? If someone is falling in love with someone other than her husband, then she needs to get a divorce FIRST and explore those potential feelings after she files the paperwork. You don’t do that while you are still married! ! For the love of god, we had BBFAN saying people should have no issue staying faithful to their spouse until the divorce is actually finalized!! And now you are all about Hope being able to pursue other romantic relationships while she is still HAPPILY MARRIED!!?? Which by the way, Hope has said those very words to multiple people including to Thomas on pretty much every episode over the past week.
To me, your justification is absurd!
And also I’d like to point out that if Brooke did what you are proposing Hope should do, all the FF’s would be blasting comments on the blog what a whore and slut Brooke is!! But because it’s Hope and Thomas all you ladies are acting like the cheer squad!! All because you want saintly Hope to take the fall. And please note…no one is saying on the show or in the comments that Hope is like Brooke. Everyone is saying she is nothing like Brooke!!!
And another hilarious thing is you are bringing up the fact that Hope has been spending a lot of time with Thomas at the office. Yet, if Liam was pushing back on that, you’d be saying what a controlling husband he is. It’s a no win situation for Liam. You complain when he sets boundaries. And at the same time…you use the long nights as justification for Hope seemingly having feelings for Thomas when Liam doesn’t set boundaries.
Here’s the bottom line as I see it…if Hope wants Thomas as you suggest, then she can explore those “feelings” after she files divorce from the man she LOVES, the family she loves, the life she loves with Liam.
The fact that you are suggesting it is perfectly fine she do that now is so damn hypocritical!! And I can’t say that enough!!!
And by “everyone on the show” recognizing it’s inappropriate - I am referring to 4 people. Hope, Thomas, Steffy and Liam. They all know that the overnight is NOT OK. That’s why all 4 have shown concern! And I’m sure if Finn knew, he would show concern as well…then we’d have a solid 5!! Lol
DeleteBBFAN, I addressed pretty much everything you ladies said in my comments above.
DeleteThe one additional thing I will say to you is that Steffy made a HUGE deal about what she thinks she saw Hope do with Thomas. So if she can make such a HUGE deal about it with Hope, so much so that she absolutely believes something is going on with Hope, then Steffy should also relay those concerns to Liam who has asked her about 50 times!
Sigh. Lynn, I'm not sure what I said made you think that I support Hope exploring her feelings for Thomas while married to Liam. As usual, you put your own spin on what I said then react to your own spin.
DeleteI think by now, everyone on this blog knows that I DO NOT want anything to happen between Thomas and Hope until Liam is out of the picture. I've said it soooooo many times.
"after she files divorce from the man she LOVES, the family she loves, the life she loves with Liam."
DeleteNo truer words. Let's see Hope throwing away all this. You people would like nothing more than for a broken family of Hope and Liam. Charming. But Hope won't break it. Also because she knows Thomas is the one person there would be no coming back to Liam from (in theory of course, in soap practice everyone comes back at some point).
Elle, you have done nothing but cheer Hope on hoping that something will develop between them. When have you said, “Hope needs to file for divorce and then pursue Thomas” ?? Instead you are instead rubbing your hands together with anticipation of that line being crossed. As I said, if this were happening with Brooke, we would never hear the end of the home-wrecker comments coming from the FF’s.
DeleteI will admit that you are one of the few that has mentioned that you don’t want it to just be some ‘tawdry affair’ between Hope and Thomas. But you have also been saying at the same time that Liam is being fanatical about his concern about the situation. And what you should be doing is defending Liam because you believe that his concerns are valid, right??
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DeleteI have said that:
Delete- Hope needs to get a grip on whatever she's feeling because if she doesn't, it will spill over into her marriage.
- Hope telling Thomas about Liam's past indiscretions was wrong.
- Hope needs to come clean with Liam and stop lying to him.
I've also said that Liam constantly bringing up Thomas will drive Hope into Thomas' arms. And you've said that he has every right to. So maybe you are the one that wants to see their marriage go kaput because I don't see how bad-mouthing Thomas at every turn is going to help their marriage.
Their marriage isn't broken as yet but Hope is finding every excuse in the book to justify her feelings for Thomas, something she's never done before. She's lying to her husband. Also something she's never done before. Their marriage isn't as strong as Liam thinks it is. And if it continues to crack, there won't be much for Hope to walk away from, especially when she has another family with Thomas.
Liam would always say he loves Hope yet, when mannequin-gate happened, how quickly did he write off his wife and ran to his ex? Did it mean he stopped loving Hope? I never said that Hope doesn't love Liam but you refuse to see that she has been neglecting her marriage for a long time and it has led to her developing feelings for Thomas. All that she tells Liam is true but as long as she continues to have feelings for Thomas while lying to her husband, their marriage will be affected, whether you want to admit that or not.
Exactly lynn
DeleteAnd what i see in comments if the man in this storyline wasn’t thomas i believe the people who is cheering now will be bashing her with bad words and oh she is her mother’s daughter blah blah
And another thing you can’t take hope’s words for real that she loves liam and her family
But sure you should take thomas’s words he is changed
Its ok to cheer for beth’s family to be broken but we keep hearing oh hope broke kelly’s family
Maybe hope’s family is already broken just like brook’s and ridge’s marriage was before thomas and steffy and Taylor interferes , So its not their fault
I will give it to elle she is the only i guess who didn’t want an affair
And liam is absolutely right about his concerns
There was no time before thomas proves him wrong regardless of how hope not has feelings which liam doesn’t know about
Even finn agreed with him but sure his boss wife shuts him down
And gave him a look
I wonder what will happen if we have a storyline where finn challenge steffy
And lynn i don’t if you saw the bounce scene between Taylor and liam
DeleteShe was saying that thomas is really changed and he is making amends
It makes me really laugh
Did he ever admit that he drugged liam and apologized for it to both liam and steffy since she had hope that liam will return to her after that night
Did he made amends to emma’s family so maybe they can have some closure
Not saying telling them the whole truth that he killed her or caused her death
Im not saying self-incrimination but still apologize for not calling for help and how sorry he is for their lose
But sure that’s required a conscience and remorse
Or confessed to hope that he was welling to drug her so he can sleep with her
Or to Douglas for the night of terror with the ghost app
But it seems he makes amends to things people knows about only
Such a selective awakening of conscience he has
Elle, why do you keep saying Liam is badmouthing Thomas?? Liam literally never bad mouths Thomas unless he is with Wyatt and Hope is not around. The only thing Liam has expressed in the past month is concern and uneasiness about the situation. And Hope has fully admitted out loud that she understands Liam’s concerns and is grateful for his understanding and support. She recognizes she is putting Liam in a very uncomfortable position and is sorry he is feeling that way. So Liam’s concerns are NOT pushing Hope away as you say.
DeleteAs far as lying to Liam, I addressed that someplace else on the blog. Hope doesn’t think she is lying because she can’t can’t understand what it is she is feeling. Just like I’ve said all along….she does not believe she loves Thomas. She only recognizes that ‘something’….some unknown force is pulling her toward him. But in her heart she does not want to cheat. She’s just confused.
Mmysh, your mind is like a steel trap!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
DeleteYour memory is EXCELLENT my friend!!
And touché! You are 100% correct Mmysh…if it wasn’t Thomas that Hope had this happening with, the FF’s would be singing an entirely different tune for sure!!!
DeleteThanks dear
DeleteBut i hope i will not get a comment of those what about brook apologizing to A or X
Or Hope apologizing to steffy or , or , or
You know the drill 😊
Lynn, Hope has also said, out loud, that she is thankful that Thomas sees her (who she is). She has said, out loud, that she is thankful for Thomas. She has said, out loud, that she has been constantly trying to reassure Liam about their relationship and that he has nothing to worry about even though he has done everything he's done. So are we only to listen to and believe what Hope says to Liam and just ignore the rest?
DeleteI just read most of the comments
DeleteBbfan it was me who wrote about thomas train another designer
And sorry i respectfully disagree
According to your comments if the designer is dead for example so the fashion house is finished
We have a lot of fashion houses around the world the founder of the designer are dead or sick can’t design anymore and they are still here and still famous and selling a lot
And HFTF has been there for a decades and ot was always a hit and thomas wasn’t even one of the designers
But now he is the only one
There is no such thing
We have a say where i came from
God created him and then broke the template
No one IN WORK WORLD can’t be replaced even when the work depends mostly on talent
And oh, poor Hope. She doesn't understand what she's feeling. Last time I checked, Hope's a grown woman. You sound like Liam who treats Hope like a child who doesn't know her own mind! I guess if she and Thomas kiss, Thomas will be blamed for taking advantage of poor, whittle Hope who doesn't understand.
DeleteElle, you are twisting what I said. I said Hope doesn’t understand her feelings - meaning just that. She is confused because she knows she adores Liam, yet something is causing her to have some unexplainable attraction to Thomas. That is totally plausible and it has nothing to do with Hope being a grown up. It simply means she is confused right now. Not complicated.
DeleteMilla, I agree that if there was gonna be a “kiss”, it most likely would have happened by now. It’s gonna be a big let down for the FF’s on Monday’s episode!
DeleteElle, if Hope and Thomas kiss, I will absolutely blame Hope!! 100%. But I will also be one of the first ones to point out when they don’t kiss - so stay tuned for Monday’s events. My money is on NO KISS!!
DeleteNo dear if they kissed she will be the blamed one
DeleteShe is the married one in this duo
But sure then this thomas will turn her down or pull away Or he is feeling awkward or being a classy and a gentleman for pulling his hands away from hers
Will be also not true but only a wishful thinking
And btw 2 days ago these was an article about the SF trip an interview with mathew and he said thomas doesn’t know yet that hope is having feelings for him
As some here keeps repeating that he knows but he pulled away
Or maybe even mathew is wrong maybe
That's what I admire about you two. You don't look for excuses when Hope does sth wrong. And if she does kiss Thomas of course it will be her fault. Nobody pressured her and she's putting so much at stake that it's unbelievable - her marriage, family, Thomas mental wellbeing, Liam's mental wellbeing 😂(because he'd go nuts if he knows Thomas of all people his wife is kissing), her line and worst of all - Steffy's superiority will be justified (in Steffy's eyes) 😂. That last one alone should give her pause. But she most likely won't. I just hope this plot line goes to its apogee of whatever it really is about.
DeleteIndeed milla
DeletePlus and what is more important
What the line msg is about
So a scandal like this will end the line even with thomas‘s one of a kind brilliant designs 😂😂
I think this scandal steffy will not exposed to the media like she did with brook’s ( or don’t remember this part exactly actually i don’t want to accuse steffy with something she didn’t do)
But this i remember so well when she changed the sign or don’t know what it called in HFTF preview
And she make HO for the future
😂😂😂
Lynn, for the umpteenth time, I am not wishing for a kiss or for anything to happen between Hope and Thomas right now. As I've said before, and as I've listed above, I want Hope to come clean to her husband about what she's feeling. They need to have this conversation because, not only is Liam looking like a fool, but if Hope does not address it as a problem for her marriage, she will lose it when Liam eventually finds out. If she talks to Liam, they can address it together.
DeleteI also think that it might be prudent to talk to Thomas about it because he might also be able to talk to her and help her through it.
And to be clear, I would very much love to see Thomas and Hope together but not as an illicit affair while she's still married to Liam. Thomas and Hope have been through a lot, maybe even more than she and Liam (which was mostly infidelities on his part). Their relationship has proven that no matter what challenges they've faced, they can overcome them. And the fact that Thomas is sincere about becoming a better person, I know that he will love and protect Hope fiercely. I also want to see Douglas get what his wee, little heart has wanted for so long.
So what about beth ???
DeleteAnd since she is still so young compared to Douglas
And i hope the life with hope will not be as the daydream thomas had once 😂😂
Her mother and aunts are dead and he is the CEO of FC and hope’s picture upon the fire place in Eric’s mansion
It was a very disturbing image
What about Beth? Where was the concern for Beth when Liam slept with Steffy and almost produced another child with her? I heard no concern for Beth when Hope asked Liam to leave the cabin after what he did. Oh right, that was Steffy's fault. Silly me. 🙄
DeleteAgain assumptions
DeleteIs the liam and steffy cheating is a current issue or an ongoing storyline ???
Are you sure that we didn’t talked about it and bashed liam for what he did back then when this storyline was on air
And how this will effect beth and Douglas and we supported hope even in leaving liam
This storyline was like over a year now
Actually elle this is a very weak way with no meaning to answer the question
Because mostly you don’t have any
Again the need to shove steffy in the situation to finish the comments oh yeah that was steffy’s fault 😂😂 but she was at fault btw just like liam btw not towards hope but towards finn , it wasn’t her fault that liam came to her but sure she should have handled the situation better than to get drunk with him and cheat on finn, she didn’t cheat on hope btw
While steffy has nothing to do with my question or your comment for that matter
Its funny that you guys were considering hope is not Douglas real mother and she doesn’t has the same rights as thomas concerning Douglas
While she should only be focusing on her real child beth while she is obsessed with Douglas
And Douglas should be living with thomas and the forresters
But now oh let Douglas have his wish
And Thomas get rewarded after everything he’s done and beth ,,, oh beth who 🤦🏻♀️
Yes Mmysh it was you that said Thomas could train someone to be a designer. I replied, You can't teach someone to be a good designer, its a gifted talent you have it, or you don't. Your reply was," Wrong with practice and hard work you can. So your logic doesn't apply here."
DeleteI left it at that, but you are so wrong According to your logic anyone can be taught to sing too, and with practice and hard work we can become another Adele or Rihanna .
Lynn your comment about everyone in Liam's ear is because he runs to everyone for assurance of Thomas it's the only topic he brings up with Steffy, Finn, Wyatt and Hope or anyone else that will listen. This is the first time Steffy actually went to his office for something else but Thomas was brought up.
DeleteUh no, D. If you are paying attention…it has been Wyatt bringing up Thomas the last few times, not Liam. Some of the FF’s even commented on that. Then Finn brought it up when it was clearly none of Finn’s business to be talking to Liam about it since Finn doesn’t even work at FC. Then more recently it was Steffy who brought it up to Liam. So no, Liam hasn’t initiated many of the recent discussions.
DeleteAnd Elle, pretty ironic that you said “Thomas would protect Hope fiercely.” 😂😂😂😂
And yet all you ladies do is complain nonstop that Liam treats Hope like a child and is controlling when he tries to protect her!!! Looks like a clear case of double standards from where I sit !!
And your lack of concern for her biological daughter, Beth is predictable. But we don’t need to worry about that, because Hope will NEVER leave Liam for Thomas!!
Elle, it’s pretty hard for me to discern what you are rooting for when all we hear is how much you want Thomas and Hope together at the expense of her marriage and family with Liam. The fact that you are rooting so hard for her to throw away the life she has with the man she loves dearly and has built a family and life with, speaks volumes to me.
DeleteOh D can you pay more attention when you read my comments
DeleteDid i say it wasn’t me 😂😂
I guess not
Even though Bbfan can’t remember who said that i replied and i wrote
“Bbfan it was me who wrote about thomas train another designer “
I guess you read it so quickly oh yeah let me prove it was her
Which i said it was me i didn’t say the opposite
Second there is an interview with ed sharon with conan they played a recording for him singing when he was a teenager and his voice was awful and everyone in the studio along with audience starts laughing
He said his voice became this beautiful because of training and practice
So even singing can be taught sometimes
And an artist without an amuse or practice is nothing
That’s why there is schools and universities for that especially for fashion designing
So why there is such an education while its not needed 🤔
So no dear
Thomas is a unique designer but he is not that human who when god created him he (god) broke his template
And the line was a hit for over a decade without even a single design from thomas
So yeah he is special but not extraordinary or distinguished
But sure thomas is the one and only who can design for the line
Just because he is your favorite
Which you are entitled to think that
But it doesn’t mean its right
In work world no one is not replaceable
This is logic and how life works
But sure here logic doesn’t serve our narratives so the hell with logic
“Thomas and Hope have been through a lot, maybe even more than she and Liam (which was mostly infidelities on his part). Their relationship has proven that no matter what challenges they've faced, they can overcome “
DeleteThis comment from elle makes me wonder
Especially mentioning Liam’s infidelities
Which is really shameful and bad
But what about what thomas did
I like to see how he will tell Douglas that once he offered him in exchange for one night of sex
Or once i was planning to drug your mother to sleep with her
Or you know beth i hide the truth of you being alive from your mother and i fed on her grieving over losing you for months to make her mine
And i drugged your father to sleep with aunt Steffy to make sure your mother will resent him
And yeah kids i loved your mother so much to the degree i caused the death of an innocent young woman who was try to ease your mother’s pain
Yeah they really overcome so much 😂
Things that normal people don’t come back from and act like it didn’t happened
Its not bad like infidelities 🤔 since that what was mentioned here
Such a cute stories they can share with kids 😂
Oh Mmysh I can't pay attention to all the long and winded messages you write (which you accuse me of and don't pay attention lol). I didn't say you said it wasn't you I was just quoting you on an answer I got from you when I replied to you, you can't teach someone their own artistic interpretation. I was told I'm wrong and my logic makes no sense. End of story...it's done, we have many different opinions.
DeleteD
Delete“Yes mmysh it was you “
This means what i said
You thought i deny saying and you wanted to prove it
And if you understand it right so whats your point exactly ??
Just repeating yourself
But its not an opinion here
Thats what you don’t got it
Everyone is replaceable in business world is not an opinion its a fact
And talent needs practice and training to be better also a fact
So yeah when some say that 1+1=3 because thomas said so or thats fit him
So it is none sense
Happy Mother’s Day and have a good day
@Lynn "The fact that you are rooting so hard for her to throw away the life she has with the man she loves dearly and has built a family and life with, speaks volumes to me."
DeleteWhere do you see me rooting for Hope to throw away the life she has? You clearly have not been reading my posts.
It's not difficult to discern where I am coming from if you would just read and understand the things I say. I have said, ad nauseum, that I do want Thomas and Hope to be together but I do not want an illicit affair. I have also said that Hope needs to get a grip on what she's feeling otherwise, it can spill over into her marriage. I have also said that Liam needs to stop with the constant Thomas bashing because, again, it would only cause trouble in their marriage.
If you don't understand, then let me break it down for you. I would very much love to see Thomas and Hope together because I think their relationship is quite complex and the fact that they have gotten through it all to a place where they now have a mutual respect for each other, it makes for a solid foundation (something she and Liam never had due to his multiple infidelities) for a committed relationship between the two.
However, I do not want an illicit affair between them. Hope needs to get her act together and decide whether she wants to keep her marriage or to be with Thomas. This game she is playing where, on one hand, she is telling Liam he is number one but, on the other hand, she is telling Thomas that she is trying to assuage Liam but he has made mistakes too, makes her seem like she is trying to keep both of her options open. If she wants to stay with Liam, I have no issues with that. He is her husband and she has a family with her. If she wants to be with Thomas, I will be super excited because they also have a family together, add to which, they have mad chemistry and I know that Thomas will be loyal and faithful to her and her only.
@Mmysh It's not that I don't have an answer to your question about Beth. It's that I was trying to figure out why you asked the question. What about Beth? Is something wrong with her? I don't know. Maybe you need to let me know where you are coming from with your question so that I can respond appropriately.
DeleteAnd I brought up Liam's past actions because, as I said, I never saw any concern about Beth before, so I used Liam's past as an example. Thanks for confirming that you were not concerned about Beth back then since you supported Hope putting Liam out. You had no issue then about Beth. You only have an issue now because Thomas is involved.
Actually my comment meant nothing you are trying to imply
DeleteWe were concerned about beth and Douglas
But the in the other hand the double standards you have that brook want hope to stay with liam for the kids sake but for you that was so wrong from here pushing her daughter to stay with a man who cheated on her
How absurd really
We were concerned about beth but sure as women we were also not blaming a women who got cheated on if her decision was to leave her husband
So no dear the assumptions you keep putting here and there are not confirmed
And dose it hope being thomas you are wishing for so desperate means the beth’s family will be broken
Or hope can have two husbands at the same time so as you said no effect on beth 😂
And yeah i have issues with hope being with her abuser/stepbrother i never tried to hide it, it’s gross and offensive and sick
My question was clear dear since you want the family Douglas is wishing for
But the hell with beth
But as i see still no answer only assumptions again
"But as i see still no answer only assumptions again"
DeleteBecause you still have not clarified what you meant by asking about Beth. I am still not sure. As such, I can only assume. If you let me know what your concern is about Beth, as I said before, I will be able to give an appropriate response.
"But the in the other hand the double standards you have that brook want hope to stay with liam for the kids sake but for you that was so wrong from here pushing her daughter to stay with a man who cheated on her"
I never said that Brooke wanted Liam to stay with Hope for the sake of the kids. All I have ever said is that it was wrong of Brooke to push her daughter into staying with a man who emotionally abused her over and over again.
And the only double standard I see is from the LFs who bash poor Douglas for wanting his parents together yet, if Hope were to leave Liam to be with Thomas, it's "poor Beth." There are 2 children involved and 2 different fathers. Hope being with Liam leaves her to co-parent Douglas with his father, and Hope being with Thomas leaves her to co-parent Beth with her father.
So its ok with you for beth to lose her family while she is younger
DeleteAnd Douglas is already older and get used to it
And brook wasn’t pushing hope but she was providing her with her opinion and advice that for the sake of the kids she should consider forgiving liam
And we never bash Douglas for wanting his parents to be together
We said that someone should teach him that his mother is married to someone else and he shouldn’t try to break her family
And saying that Douglas was ungrateful to be mean and bad with liam is not bashing
We teach our kids to be grateful and and when they are not we tell them so they learn a lesson
Beth‘s family took Douglas in and treated him like their own so its not nice of him to wish this family to be broken so he can have his, it’s selfish
And its ok for kids to be selfish or ungrateful but its not ok to let them grow up like this.
So That is not bashing, or double standards
The Double standards wanting Beth’s family to be broken because of thomas to give Douglas the family that never was as what beth has now
For me there is no difference between beth and Douglas as kids
But in this kid of situation sure the better is not to break the family that already exists and this child who already lost her first days with her parents
Just because i want the other guy (thomas) to get what he wanted
Or the other kid who already a part of this girl‘s family
Especially when this man was of the reasons beth lost her first months with her parents
Not to mention the ugly disgusting other things he‘s done
There is no middle ground in that
Its what is right according to the situation
Poor Kelly lost her daddy twice! First when Hope demanded Liam be with her and their unborn baby. Never mind he was engaged to remarry Steffy and living with her and their daughter in their marital home.
DeleteI remember the Logan fans saying Steffy didn’t deserve him etc and not one had any compassion for the wee lassie having her daddy being removed from her life. Steffy didn’t want her going through Liam not being able to make a decision. The main reason she have Hope her ring and told her to have Liam.
It was also perfectly fine for Kelly to lose her daddy and her sister in one day so Hope could take Beth and put her straight into nursery and not bother to take time to transition her or to bond or anything?? None of you cared for the pain that Beth’s adoptive mother went through when her daughter was literally ripped from her arms. No compassion for poor Kelly. Because oh yes, it was Steffy and Kelly in pain so it didn’t matter.
I’m glad they have Finn and Hayes. But again you only care about Logan families being torn apart.
Ohhhh I see an affair coming up very soon
ReplyDeleteMe too
DeleteBlah blah blah. Broken record!!
DeleteBlah blah blah if know one agrees with your opinions. I just wrote a few comments and like you Lynn it's not appearing. I'll check in the morning and make sure they didn't post 3x's. 😒
DeleteWhat do you think.. I'm sure they won't kiss. But that"s a start to Something.. so much in my mind but cannot say it in English. I'm learning the language by watching the show. Sure I'll watch it from tv also with texting. It's about three months late than this.
ReplyDelete❤️❤️❤️
DeleteA lot of us here no an English native speakers
DeleteGood luck dear ❤️❤️
Yep for sure
ReplyDeleteMmysh….where did you go??? Hope all is well. I miss seeing your comments! 🤗
ReplyDeleteYes me too!
DeleteHe ladies ❤️❤️❤️
DeleteI was busy yesterday we moved to new house and yesterday was so busy so many workers around 😂😂
Im so mad and disappointed with hope
Yes she should be traumatized of being bullied from thomas steffy Stephanie and Taylor all those years because of her mother‘s past like any of them are even better … not
Steffy and Thomas were so awful and a bullies with brook’s children with an excuse of their mother past
And she also has the right to have issues over Liam’s infidelities
But why does she think that it's a good idea to say that her mother stupidly followed her heart in front of a man that was hiding Beth from her, threatened to kill people and he did killed one and drugged Liam and was well to drug her to be raped all because he followed his heart? I'm so tired of the whole "everything is always Brooke's fault"
How can she forget that once he offered his son in exchange for sex 🤮🤮🤮
She used to stand up for her mother against people they are hypocrites to think they are better that brook or their mother for that matter
It’s disgusting 🤢 and hypocritical
I saw yesterday day that the views are really dropping
DeleteViewers are not happy at all
And something is really good actually
That in all the articles on the internet writing about the show
Always mentioning thomas and hope as step siblings
His stepsister, her step brother
Maybe some people will open their eyes
Most people see how much this relationship is weird and disgusting
And i guess that’s why the views are dropping
Mmysh so exciting about the new house! I hope it’s amazing 🤗🤗🏡
DeleteIt is big with a garden but we are frustrated of the delays on everything
DeleteAnd it’s raining most of the time
I just don’t feel home yet
It will happen 🤗🤗
DeleteMmysh, I understand how you feel. Remember that Hope has feelings for Thomas. She's trying to fight it because part of her knows she shouldn't be having those feelings for the very same reasons you mentioned about Thomas. However, her feelings for him are also very strong and so, she's finding every reason in the book to justify them. Unfortunately, it means that her mother's past of following her heart is one of those reasons.
DeleteYou've been looking at the show for a long time so I'm sure you know that no relationship/marriage lasts forever. This was bound to happen at some point.
I know my dear
DeleteBut im that kind of a person i like everything to be done fast and perfect of course
I can’t set like feeling comfortable if there is still anything is not done yet
And a lot of things its not up to me unfortunately
So i just can’t wait until everything is done as i want it to be
Agreed to all you wrote elle
DeleteBut you missed the whole point oh what i meant
Mmysh, don’t lose hope in Hope! 😁. It’s all gonna be OK!!
DeleteAnd congratulations on your new home!! How exciting!! ❤️
Mmysh, I was not addressing what you wrote. My response was to you saying "Im so mad and disappointed with Hope."
DeleteLynn what she is doing with thomas still wrong so mad at her but this episode
DeleteSaying these things about her mother to thomas the one he killed somebody not to mention the rest of disgusting things he did also because he was following his heart
If maybe she was telling that to somebody else it will not be that bad and stupid
Elle dear still what you explained has nothing to do with why i was so disappointed with hope in this episode
DeleteMmysh that’s very valid. Hope forgot Brooke following her heart is the reason she even exists. If Brooke wasn’t the way she was there would be no affair with Deacon and no Hope. And Brooke has always been incredibly caring to her. And it’s also surprising because Hope has always been one of the biggest (if not he biggest) advocate of Brooke. Now after two sentences from Brooke and her whole feelings - to Brooke and to Thomas - turn around (She's only been shown to see Brooke's words as influencing factors, no months' old hand touches so let's skip this dance please FFs, I said I only consider and discuss the show, no interpretations). Apropos interpretations I nearly fell off the chair, I thought I had read here all the wildest speculations but this one topped them all 😂😂🤣
Deletehttps://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/soapbox/671522/is-thomas-drugging-hope-water/
Mmysh, agreed. She shouldn’t have said that. I think Thomas going on and on about how Hope is not like her mother when they were on the plane prompted her to bring Brooke into the conversation. Hope has definitely not told Thomas she has feelings for him. And I don’t think that day will ever come. So just hang tight. I agree that Hope is playing with fire right now. But I don’t think she will cross the line. It’s fine to be upset with her for what she said on Friday’s episode. I haven’t been happy with her behavior lately either. But I’m still keeping the faith in the character because I don’t think she’ll actually cheat. And that’s not to say she doesn’t need to get her crap together. Because she absolutely does!! I want the old Hope back ASAP!!
DeleteOh milla
DeleteI started to read this article today then then the FB shuts down then i couldn’t find it
So thanks for the share
But its really only crap
As a big fan of game of thrones
We used to have a lot and a lot of theories and discussion
But at least that was really a kind of show with deep conversation and and strong storylines
But doing that for a soap that’s hilarious
And as i understand you watched right ??
Even its not only a fiction its a fantasy but still no one of the fans supported sansa and john being together since they were raised as brother and sister
Boy oh boy, Thomas is to be blamed yet again. And this time for Hope's own thoughts about her own mother. Brooke spoke to Hope about the mistakes she's made in the past when she had the bad boy talk with her. It led to Hope lashing out at her mom when she tried to have a romantic evening with her husband but couldn't stop thinking about Thomas. Since then, Hope has been bringing up Brooke's past. But sure, let's blame Thomas.
DeleteAnd for Hope fans, I have not seen a single one of you sympathize with what Hope is going through. She spilled her guts to Thomas about what she has gone through being Brooke's child and how hard she has tried all her life not to be like her mom and the pressure she was under, but all you can do is talk about how disappointed and upset you are. Your concern is more with Brooke rather than with Hope. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Elle, the thing is….no one has accused Hope of being like her mother (until Steffy’s recent nasty comment.). And that’s just Steffy for you. 😡😡😡
DeleteSure, it was probably tough growing up with Brooke as her mom. But how many of us have parents that are the perfect role models?? My dad was far from perfect, and like Hope…I (as an adult) don’t ever want to be like him in certain things. So I simply don’t follow in his footsteps.
So no, I don’t feel sorry for Hope now. Maybe I would have felt sorry for her as a child if everyone referred to her mom as the town slut. But Hope is all grown with a family of her own, and she conducts herself more honorably because of Brooke’s mistakes. So good for Hope. That’s not to say this whole weirdness with Thomas doesn’t need to end immediately. I am just speaking to the kind of person Hope has always been.
I deleted my comment where I questioned what I thought was Elle’s comment at 3:07 pm. But in looking again, I see that’s it was Milla’s comment! So now it makes sense . 😊
DeleteLynn, I didn't respond to your comment because I realized that you, once again, went off on something I didn't say. I simply did not have the energy.
DeleteElle where exactly did you see me blaming thomas 😂 for hipes behavior in this this episode
DeleteReally that’s what you get from my comment
Of course he has to place to judge or even speak about brook’s past while his past is so white 😂 or his mother‘s for that matter
Thomas involvement in my comment wasn’t about blaming him for hope’s behavior
Elle, yes Thomas for sure bears some responsibility in his recent actions. Don’t get me wrong, Thomas has been playing all this pretty well. But in the most recent events he should have handled things differently. Once he got a sense that something may be up with Hope (as all the FF’s were all too eager to point out) when the hand holding incident occurred. After that happened (and Thomas relived the moment in his head multiple times) Thomas should have really been careful to monitor his own behavior very carefully from that point forward. He was clearly fishing when he told Hope that she is NOTHING like Brooke. And that Hope would NEVER be like her mother. There was no need to say that other than to see Hope’s reaction. Hence my fishing comment. And he should have NEVER have gone in for the hug in the hotel room and followed that up with gazing into Hope’s eyes. Those are NOT the behaviors of someone who is “on guard.” He is stirring up trouble if you ask me. He may not have initiated the perceived trouble. But he doesn’t seem to mind being a part of it now that he thinks he might be onto something. I hope Monday they both back away from the embrace - no harm no foul. I’m simply saying that for a guy who’s supposedly “on guard”…he’s being pretty stupid with his actions and his words.
DeleteElle, I explained why I don’t need to sympathize or feel sorry for Hope. She is a better person because of what she saw her mom do as a younger woman. I did address what you said.
DeleteAnd I don't sympathize with Hope because honestly I don't feel there's anything to sympathize for. Just because her mother made some comments about her *own* mistakes and gave her credit that she's not like her. If I have to sympathize I'll have to go on the "on some level Hope" path which you will never see me because to me it always looks a little ridiculous. There are no levels. There is an actress reading 50-100 lines a day on a set. I comment on that.
DeleteYes, yes Milla, you've said, ad nauseum, that you go only by what's seen on the show. And that's your preference.
DeleteBut not because people choose to put their own spin on what plays out means that it's ridiculous. It's called interpretation. My interpretation of Hope knowing exactly what she's feeling for Thomas is no more ridiculous than Lynn's interpretation that she's confused or lacks understanding of what she's feeling.
So quit with the constant obnoxious comments as though your contributions are somehow more factual or believable than ours. Sheesh!
Actually I apologize. Forget what I said please.
DeleteElle, sure, there’s “interpretation” of what you or myself or anyone on the blog sees, and then there’s calling out the character for outright lying. Hope has stated multiple times that she does NOT have feelings for Thomas. So you are calling her a liar. And honesty, I have no issue with that if that’s your take on it. But what I do have issue with is the time I said Thomas was lying when he told Hope he DID NOT put that mannequin behind the screen when she saw it and freaked out. You stood by Thomas’ word that he did NOT put it there simply because he said he didn’t. And I said multiple times…he is clearly LYING!!
DeleteYour confidence in Thomas made me laugh so hard given Thomas’ propensity to lie! But you stood firm on your beliefs. So now, the roles are reversed and you are clearly not trusting Hope at her word. You are calling her a liar because you say she knows she has feelings for Thomas even though she has said repeatedly that she does not.
Do you see my issue here????
Exactly lynn people can consider what hope told steffy is a lie
DeleteBut did we see her admitting to HERSELF that she is in love with thomas
Or also she will lie to herself??
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DeleteNo worries, Milla.
DeleteLynn, I do not see your issue. Thomas told Hope that he did not ask for the mannequin to be brought up and was just as surprised as she was to see it. Now correct me if I am wrong, did we actually see (in flashbacks) Thomas ask for that specific mannequin to be brought up? Did we see Thomas (in flashbacks) remembering the lie he told to Hope? You know, the way we saw with the CPS call that let us know that he was the one that did it. So you are basically supporting your assumedly correct prediction of Thomas lying based on "Thomas is used to lying."
DeleteWhere Hope is concerned, Hope was caught holding Thomas' hands, looking into his eyes and telling him something very personal and because she was caught, she tried to cover by stating that she does not have feelings for Thomas EVEN THOUGH, we have seen her fantasizing about Thomas, thinking about Thomas during and after sex with her husband and remembering the moment she and Thomas were holding hands, yet, I should believe that she is lying to Steffy.
Ok Lynn. **shaking my head**
Correction: ... I should believe that she is NOT lying to Steffy.
DeleteDoesn’t matter how you slice it, Elle. Unless Hope admits to someone…anyone…that she has feelings for Thomas, you are still calling her a liar. Like I’ve said before, Hope has a little devil sitting on her shoulder right now that is taking her mind to bad places. It does not mean she is in love with Thomas. There’s definitely an infatuation. But Hope has not admitted to anyone she has any feelings for Thomas beyond that of a “friend.” Yes, she respects him. Yes, he gets her vision. Yes, her line is successful primarily because of Thomas. But none of that says she’s in love with him. She’s definitely distracted though, and that needs to stop!
DeleteSo at this point, no mater what spin you try to put on it, it’s still just speculation and conjecture on your part. Just like I made assumptions about the mannequin behind the screen and how it got there. Thomas is the only one who ever “plays with” the mannequin, so it just makes sense that crazed Thomas (who at the time WAS OBSESSING OVER HOPE)….put it there.
Lynn One word for what Hope has been doing… DENIAL!!!!!
DeleteI never felt that much for Hope than today, the poor girl never lives her own life, she's never experience life seriously, all she did.....was trying so hard not be like her mother, all that shadow over her now she faces feeling that she never knew and if she let them out everyone will point it out, so she will be struggling. I feel. So sorry for the character, I hate when people expected thing from you not asking themselves what you really want or how you really feel. Hope probably loves the Lame pathetic boy, which not exclude that she can have feel for Thomas, like in real life that happens, but we are too hypocrites to admit it.
ReplyDeleteActually a lot of us here see the similarities between the show and real life
DeleteYes anyone in real life can go through having feelings for other persons other than their spouse or partner
But its not likely for a sane woman in her right mind to have a romantic feelings for a man who put her through hell, abused her
Hide her daughter from her
Fed on her grieving
Manipulated her in a very disgusting way especially supporting the idea you can’t have other children
Taking advantage of the most tragically thing a parent can go through
And use his son in an exchange for sex
I need a day to finish the ugly things he‘s done
Yes she poor girl while people who are much worse that her mother are just judging her or define her through her mother’s past behavior
And btw in real life the pathetic boy is waaaay better than a psycho murderer bully.
Hope Dosnt see him like that anymore in the past and what he did she knows now that he’s better and a changed man she is so much into him now , and she can’t stop thinking bout him and she will give in to him and start something
DeleteThat"s amazing how forgiving Hope is. She has forgotten all Thomas has done. Thomas is now very kind and that's why she thinks he's changed. I feel sorry for Liam if Hope someday will say she's in love with Thomas
DeleteYeah same poor Liam
DeleteHope doesn’t have any reason she can’t have more children!!! Liam actually told her they could have another baby!!! That is absolute rubbish!
DeleteSteffy is the one that doctors told would not be able to have children after her miscarriage. Kelly and Hayes are miracle babies.
Its wasn’t something physical bbfan
DeleteIt was about all children she had died
She had a single miscarriage and she thought a still birth. I completely empathise having been through that in real life. However, it isn’t fair to say she was unable to have more. Many women have multiple miscarriages etc and go on to have healthy pregnancies after.
DeleteNo dear that’s not the point here or what happened
DeleteYes you are right about what you said
But hope was so devastated and depressed she thought that any child she will get pregnant with will die
A lot of women think like that in her situation
So that was one of the reasons she annulled the marriage
For kelly and phoebe (beth) to have a father and she can’t or wouldn’t be able to give liam children
That’s why she didn’t want to try again
Even she was afraid to have sex again so maybe she got pregnant and that baby will also die
She was in a very dark place
"Hope loves the lame pathetic boy." 😂 😂 😂
DeleteI feel for Hope as well. I'm sure she didn't expect to fall in love with Thomas but ever since his brain surgery 2 years ago, she has been seeing changes in him. He definitely no longer involved himself in violent or crazy behaviour, even though he was still obsessed with her. And strange enough, his one lapse in judgement with the CPS call had absolutely nothing to do with Hope. I believe that Hope started developing an attraction for Thomas before the CPS call.
Now that he's making a genuine effort, her feelings have returned, this time, stronger than before, and it's a real struggle for her.
Sorry dear elle
DeleteBut the surgery and the hematoma has nothing to do with his previous behavior of violence and hurting others
It was something temporary and only the mannequin drama came out from it
I didn't say it was, Mmysh.
DeleteI was saying that Hope has been seeing changes in Thomas ever since his brain surgery.
Yes Mmysh, the ONLY bad behavior as a result of the brain hematoma was the mannequin debacle. So there is zero excuse for all the other horrible things Thomas has done. I have seen multiple FF’s fall back on the brain injury as an excuse for everything. But that’s not remotely accurate.
DeleteYes lynn
DeleteEven with the mannequin he did nothing wrong
He didn’t hurt anyone
Only himself
At that time with all the dislike i have for him
I really felt sorry for him
For all the hallucinations and the struggles he went through
Especially that mannequin was asking of him a very bad thing including murder
And he was like so alone during those struggles
I guess only hope and Douglas was checking on him from time to time
And had dinner at his place
And how of course the actor played the rule
When he was yelling at the mannequin and hope entered the apartment the look the actor made before he fell just makes me so sad and sorry for him
I sympathized with him a lot during that storyline
But still i don’t see actor attractive at all
But as an actor he is so talented and brilliant
But Hope and Thomas has a lot of common. They could be amazing together. But that will make other people to be angry to them and that is too much for Hope. Hope is so kind person and I want all the best for her ♥️
ReplyDeleteYes true
DeleteYeah the best for her is not with her abuser and stepbrother 🤮🤮🤮
DeleteWhat u talking about stepbrother u think she’s going with RJ are u serious or what .
DeleteIs RJ her stepbrother??? 😂😂
Delete@Patologi I think it will be a shock at first but I truly believe that people will come around to the idea. We already have RJ accepting Thomas and acknowledging that he and Hope are always together and, even Brooke has been saying good things about Thomas. By the time the Thomas/Hope wedding comes around, everyone will be on board. 😂 😂 😂
Delete😂😂😂😂 when did RJ or brook said anything about thomas be with hope
DeleteThey didn't. I said that they have acknowledged that Thomas has changed. They aren't seeing him as the person who did all the horrible things to Hope. They are seeing him as a person trying to change for the better, and they are liking what they see.
DeleteUnknown RJ is Hope’s half brother. They share a mother, Brooke. It’s Thomas and Hope that have no blood ties at all.
DeleteSo in the future douclas and beth can be involved with each other
DeleteOr maybe eric and steffy can have a flink
It will be ok since they have no blood ties at all
Or thorne with steffy or brigitte
They all goes under the same criteria you mentioned
But for me to kids has been raised as kids like siblings it’s disgusting and weird
Or maybe even if we see incest in the future on the show we will see it as fine its just a show not real life
And sure as long as its done by one of our fav’s as a part of it
Didn't Ridge try to get with Bridget? Didn't Rick go after, not one but two of his step-sisters? So what's the big deal with Thomas and Hope? Oh wait, it's because it's evil, psychomurderer Thomas. 🤦🏻♀️🙄
DeleteSo if something disgusting and weird happened multiple times it will make it ok and normal
DeleteI think i should always put a not that all these relationships was weird and disgusting
I never said that the relationships you mentioned were never ok with me
Especially ridge and brigitte
He thought at one point she was his daughter
That is beyond disgusting
For me if brook and ridge met and get married when their children are already adults
And they met each other as adults
So its normal for sure
But being raised as siblings in one family and one house
So no even if there is no blood ties
Because in this kind of things its not about blood only you know
As usual you do assumptions not only about the character (fictional )
DeleteBut also about us while we can speak for our selves
Assuming that i was ok with the relationships you mentioned and now im not ok because it’s thomas
Its really wrong of you dear
Yes i don’t like thomas and his bad behavior and personality
But wrong things are same for me it doesn’t matter whom it is related too
Just like when lynn criticize the long make out session of steffy and finn
Sure the reply was but it was ok for donna and eric or brook and ridge
I never saw a comment from lynn saying it was ok for others but not steffy
And its also inappropriate to me regardless the characters involved
Even liam and previous hope they used to have a long make out sessions at the office
If a couple are working at the same place of course its ok to kiss each other
But one kiss is enough but long sessions of hot make out is totally inappropriate and its i guess forbidden in real life
Ridge didn't "try to get on with Bridget". As luck would have it I was rewatching these episodes some months ago. Bridget was the one with feelings so he kissed her to show her she shouldn't. She had the crush for some more time and moved on.
DeleteRick was gross to begin with and we are not above admitting it. That's the difference between us. We admit when someone does sth wrong. If Hope had slept with Bill you wouldn't hear us "but he chased her relentlessly" or the even better one (an outright fabrication) "he got her drunk".
I will never stop calling you out on your whataboutism which will never become a real argument. Nothing of what anyone has done makes what Thomas and Steffy do okay.
Thanks milla for the clarification about what really happened with ridge and Brigitte still gross
DeleteGod he is her brother
And even father for some time 😅🙈 definitely gross but he wasn't after her like it was implied above.
DeleteWhat are you’s talking about what u mean ridge is her brother , ridge is Bridget’s step dad omg do u even no the show
DeleteUnknown i just love your comments
DeleteAnd it proves you are the one who doesn’t know the show 😂😂
Haha if anything her step-father is the one thing he's not currently.
DeleteUr the one stating the ridge is her brother what u on about u don’t make sense
DeleteThey call the same guy their father Eric. He raised them both so yes brother.
Delete@Unknown Ridge's paternity is used conveniently to support whatever utterance they're going about at the time. Ridge is a Marone when they want to talk about the silliness of him and Thomas getting their artistic ability from Eric. But he's a Forrester when they want a fellow poster to seem like they know nothing for not knowing the history of the show. Go figure.
DeleteAnd also go figure for you to blame us for being bullies but the above attitude I was addressed with is okay.
DeleteExactly milla
DeleteI don’t know what ridge’s being a marone has anything to do with what we are saying
We actually confirming that ridge is eric’s son 😂😂😂 so that’s why it’s wrong and disgusting for him to be with Brigitte
Again something has to be twisted
The events or our words
And yes this attitude is really hostile not to mention twisting our words while what we meant is crystal clear and the opposite of what elle is trying to imply
Im sure if this comment was coming from any of us it will considered as bullying and the campaign will start
Amen, Milla! The bullying and nastiness is never an issue on the other side of the fence. It’s only called out / noticed when we do it! 😂😂🤣🤣. Where’s that eye emoji when I need it??!!! 😂😂😂
DeleteOne of the many Unknowns on this blog is extremely rude.
DeleteMmysh, you handled yourself perfectly! There will be no eye emoji for you! 😬😬😬😬
Thanks lynn 😂😂😂 you really make me smile 😊
DeleteBut to add and im responsible for my word i never started what the like to call bullying like out of no where
It was always a reply for attacking me personally
And i apologized before for being a little aggressive in some situations of misunderstanding
Im not above apologize
👁️🗨️ here is the eye i found it 😂😂
Mmysh, so true. You just stand behind what you believe and respond to people when they make incorrect statements about the show. I value that more than you know! I learn things about years past by reading your comments. Hope you had a wonderful Mother’s Day!! 💕
DeleteThank you so much dear lynn for the support and appreciation
DeleteIt means a lot
And i would never argue about anything if im not pretty sure about it
Of course there is a margin of mistakes coz we are humans after all and we forget stuff
And i don’t think lying or make up things to serve my or anyone’s narratives is a wise and good idea since the episodes are there and there is special websites for it on the net and anyone can find it and prove me/you wrong
Like the yesterday milla corrected me about ridge going after Brigitte and that was appreciated
Since she watched the these episodes recently
For me that one was ancient history
There is a lot i don’t remember in details but still anyone of us here can look for the needed information
I really enjoy having you here guys
All of us here
Even its over a soap but its good to communicate
Much love ❤️ dear and happy mother’s day to you too
Here we already celebrated mother’s day like 2 months ago
By the way ladies do you know that episodes 9043 to 9049 will be in Rome 😍 finally finally a destination! In following KKL on instagram (of course 😂) and she posted a pic of the title page of the script. It will include her, Ridge, Hope, Liam, Steffy, Thomas and Carter (no Taylor 🙌🏼).
Deletehttps://www.instagram.com/reel/CsP9iEgtFmw/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
DeleteYes milla i saw so many pictures of the trip, let see what will happen
DeleteActually Douglas and Beth are cousins! Liam was a cousin to Caroline, Douglas’s mother who died. Beth is Liam’s daughter so they are first or second cousins by blood!
DeleteExcuse me, Milla. What above attitude are you referring to? Where I carefully explained the use of interpretation then asked you to quit with your obnoxious comments? That's not being a bully. That was me being fed up of you bringing it up. You have been doing it for a while in a way that sounded like our contributions have absolutely no value. I also did not attack you personally, I stated that you comment was obnoxious. I would never try to attack any poster on this blog with personal attacks. That would be bullying.
Delete😂😂😂 how funny so they can’t be involved because they are distant cousins, but they can while he is her adoptive brother 😂
Delete@Elle. I've come to the realization if you don't agree with their interpretation and how they see things, then our comments have no value, morals are stupid, make no sense etc. etc. It gets frustrating to try and explain my comments all the time. So most times I don't bother anymore. I hate starting out my day in frustration. I have never seen you "personally attack anyone but there have been many personal attacks by some.
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DeleteElle the attitude I was referring to was the one you were replying to - of unknown. And I had replied to you on your "obnoxious" comment but decided to delete it not to add more to the negativity and even apologized in case you had read it. Now I believe it was pointless.
DeleteHave you noticed I never start a discussing with you? I start my own threads or discuss with other people and you jump in those conversations and start addressing me. If you have a problem with me, how about you just never start talking to me or jump in my discussions with others? I won't stop discussing here and you finding my comments obnoxious sounds like a you problem. Mmysh and Lynn also won't so I don't believe me as the easiest mark should back down.
Milla, if that is the stance you wish to take because I called you out on your obnoxious comment, feel free. I was not aware that we would usually start conversations with people. Once I look at the show, I then come here to comment like everyone else, not with anyone in particular.
DeleteBut as I said before, feel free to do as you wish, dear. I'll try not to be too sad about it.
I won't change anything about my commenting pattern. My suggestion was to you - since you find my comments obnoxious, not to engage with me. Easy.
DeleteMilla, I’m excited to see the Rome episodes! It will be so nice to see something other than the typical 5 - 10 sets we see every day. And I’m so glad Taylor won’t be a part of it!! Lol.
DeleteElle, BBFAN and D, I am taken back by what appears to be a very unnecessary attack on Milla. She is always kind and even apologizes if she upsets someone. Milla is not confrontational. And she generally doesn’t levy personal attacks. I, on the other hand…can be very confrontational. Lol.
DeleteI don’t see the nastiness that was directed toward Milla above as being justified at all.
Milla, I know you can take care of yourself just fine without my help. But this rudeness directed at you truly came out of left field. So definitely adding my 2 cents here.
Lynn you are such an amazing gal. Thank you! It's always good to be supported and I always appreciate it ❤️
DeleteHow am I being rude to Milla? I just pointed out a blood relationship for Unknown! 🤷🏼♀️
DeleteYeah I knew hope is RJs half sister the way u said it , is that she was going to be together with him
ReplyDeleteMymsh said that, not me!
DeleteNo i didn’t said that exactly
DeleteSorry
But unknown only understands what she wants
Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers here who celebrating it today ❤️❤️
ReplyDeleteThanks lynn for telling me
Thanks Mmysh!
DeleteYou most welcome my dear
DeleteI don’t if your daughter is a mother also
So happy mother‘s day to her too
Mmysh, ❤️❤️❤️
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